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• 1. Rambo | September 25th, 2008 at 3:32 pm

  An apology for all the killings linked to his national duty worth nothing. It is an insult to every one killed and to their families.
  El Kbir yali byi3tizir bala ma yhout wajbo el watani.
  Wejib el watani ma byismah la hadan min ma ken ykoun ysafi shabeb, yi’toul madaniyeh. Haide 3ala geagea w aoun wkil el zou3ama.

  Yali bedo yi3tizir, ya byi3tizir mazbout ya ama bala hal i3tizar.

  La mano ktir kbir el hakim la ‘ano fi ishya ktir n3amalit kenit kherij wajbo el watani w ken lezim yi3tizir mazbout w ma yitkhba wara el wejib el watani.

  Msgr Khreish wejib watani? Zaynoun wejib watani? Zayik wajib watani? Bus el madrasi bi harb el ilgha wejib watani.

  El i3tizar ken lezim ykoun safi w sadi’ la ykoun mazbout kbir el hakim.

  W bikoun akbar bi ktir ba3id el i3tizar y’adim isti’alto,

• 2. othello | September 25th, 2008 at 3:40 pm

  Wala ya Rambo…

  you started off pretty well..

  but you see there is a major flaw in your entire analysis:

  who says geagea did all you are accusing him of? do you have proof other than tante josephine’s chit chats on a cup of coffee?

  next, at least the guy made a step forward when I see most politicians nowadays making nothing but steps backwards…and you want to shoot him for it?

  IMO, for some of you people, its 3anzi walaw taret…in other words, your hatred of the guy is so blind, no matter what he does, you will find wrong…

  fa IMO, take a number and stand in line with the rest of the losers that are so proud of their orange colors…because quite frankly I have seen this kind of blindness only in aounists and their look alike…

  when you have evidence, concrete evidence that DSG did all you are accusing him of, then you can come and ask for whatever you are asking.

  y2adim isti2alto? from where? why do you hate the guy so much? tell me please???? is it because he is saying facts? is it because he is the only politician not to have budged ONE IOTA from his principles? is it because he chose to go to jail rather than bow to the Syrian????

  bass for some people, their blind hatred covers everything they see and affects everything they do…

  anyways…most likely you will turn out to be another ja3far alter ego… fa :S

• 3. Rodge | September 25th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

  Othello,

  Why u’re wasting time on that Rambo??
  do you still remember what people used to say at a certain time:
  “el 7a2 3al ouwet”??

  It seems it was not innocent, it was planned and planted in some brains (if they are brains in real).

  Rambo,
  the same questions Othello asked, do u have a proof?? Of course not, so stop the shit and at least give a moderate comment for once.

• 4. sniper | September 25th, 2008 at 4:24 pm

  Rambo Jumbo,

  Had Dr. Samir Geagea did any less during the civil war to protect the christian community, we be living like homeless slaves at this point. Our churches would have been confiscated, our priests be killed, and we’d be told “aslim” or die. God be with our martyrs for we are forever endebted to their sacrifices. His apology can only come from a practicing christian that knows the road to salvation is through our lord, Jesus Christ. Read the wholy BIBLE book, you’ll understand Hakim’s apology.

  Kbir ya 7akim !!!

• 5. danny | September 25th, 2008 at 5:13 pm

  Rambo and the rest of kids…

  DSG apologized…Now what the hell are you guys are still babbling on? I know you cult followers do not understand that contrition and accepting one’s mistake is what Christianity is all about; Repenting and forgiving…

  All we hear from people like you is whining and incoherent babble. accusations based on some “fictional” story!

  If you have an argument to make backed up with facts and referrences you’re welcomed.

  Again, I think the small babies and kids just yell and scream to mask their ignorance!

• 6. danny | September 25th, 2008 at 5:31 pm

  …one more thing. I have noticed a sense of pessimism from a few of you regarding the upcoming election. Are we on the same planet? The Orange village idiot and his sidekick from Zgharta are in deep trouble guys. DSG has proven again to be the statesman that none of the other lackies could ever be!

  He is the only actor that was jailed for 11 years while others lived in luxury in Paris with stoled 40 million of his army’s $$$$.

  Murr & Tashnags will rally against the mini orange. From my conversations I have felt that Christians in Lebanon are looking with admiration to DSG’s apology and stance overall…In the meantime aasfourieh wants its mental patients back. The description is that they wear orange and teal…

• 7. Rambo | September 25th, 2008 at 9:23 pm

  Othello,

  Ask samir geagea about what he did and no I am not talking about the cases he was accused and found guilty and them an amnesty law got him out fo prison. If he is not guilty about those, he could open the cases right?

  As for the rest, if he is ready to stand trial for Khreish, Zaynoun (he gave the order for his execution walaw nsit?) and others, trust me this time you will have people who are willing to talk.

  Without any syrian pressure.

  Bas ahaliyioun keno byisthi’o i3tizar. Ba3tin el i3tizar lezim ykoun direct mish jama3an kil shi and call it wajib watani.

  Yes we do have proof, is geagea willing to go to jail this time? If he does then let him re-open the cases and open let his minister of justice allow other cases to run.

  W bikoun akbar bi ktir ba3id el i3tizar y’adim isti’alto.

• 8. Lebanonjon | September 25th, 2008 at 9:57 pm

  rambo

  Thank you for coming to our blog and informing us of all the secret private confidential information.

  we are so stupid and ignorant of the facts that we are now going to close the blog and turn it into the we love iran and syria and aoun .com
  site .

  Please give us a few minutes to do this. after that we will take Geagea back to Jail and give you a congressional medal of honor.

  After that we will all go vote for aoun.

  but I have one little favor to ask you.

  I’ll say it very clearly and slowly so that you understand.

  GO FUCK YOURSELF.

  wa shukran

• 9. Mickel | September 25th, 2008 at 10:28 pm

  Rambo

  Shouldn’t you also demand an appology from Frangiyyeh for killing all those LFers in the North? Shouldn’t they apologize for kill Joud el Beyi3?

  Souldn’t Aoun appologize for destroying the Christian community?

  Shouldn’t all of your M8 friends appologize?

  It’s not like Hakim’s appology is going to make everything right, but it’s a start. At least he had the guts to appologizes, unlike everyone else who pretend that they were all saints.

• 10. Rambo | September 25th, 2008 at 10:47 pm

  Mickel,

  This is not the point. And yes I want an apology from all of them.
  I am talking about Geagea who issued a twisted apology.

  1- no one apologiesed, why did he?
  2- He did in a very disrespectful way.

• 11. danny | September 26th, 2008 at 12:31 am

  Rambo,

  Please say where’s the TWISTED apology?
  Which way is was/is disrespectful?
  After the civil war there was a blanket Amnesty law for all crimes committed…DSG was the only one put in jail after your kangaroo court of mukhabarati lackies manufactured evidence and jailed him (although he was covered by the same law that protected your Orange warlord and Walid beik among others)! He should not have been jailed AT ALL!!

• 12. Mickel | September 26th, 2008 at 2:56 am

  Rambo

  No one appologized because they’re not man enough. He found a need to appologize to all the people that were hurt by some thugs wearing an LF uniform.

  What do you mean twisted. He said with all honesty and sincerity that he appologizes. Why can’t you ‘digest’ it.

  Please tell me what does Hakim have to do in order for it to be an appoogy that pleases you.

• 13. Delta | September 26th, 2008 at 3:57 am

  Rambo two words bass ma rah ilak ghayroun alla ynawrak ya khaye la2ano ndahak 3lek

  salem il massih chabeb

• 14. Rima | September 26th, 2008 at 4:37 am

  Hi guys

  Even Jesus Christ was humilated, spat at and crucified…

  great people are not necessarily the most popular. Doing the right thing takes a lot of courage and brings more enemies than friends…

• 15. Rambo | September 26th, 2008 at 2:48 pm

  Dany,

  First it was their kangoroo court and moukhabarat court, not mine. I am more LF than you think or you are.

  If Geagea is innocent let him re-open these cases to at least clear his name. Haida the minimum he can do.
  Now he has a minister of justice. He pushed to have a minister of justice to delay opening new cases and not to clear his name.
  So if he is innocnet he will ask to clear his name. That what every innocent man will do.

  As for Delta, ma hada dahak 3alayeh, if geagea is ready, we are also ready to open the cases one by one. old and new ones.

  As the disrespect in the apology well the minimum you do, you issue a direct apology to Karame, Zayek, ….. families.
  Second you do not say we killed but it was our national duty. That is an insult to every person Geagea ordered to kill and to his family. National duty doesn’t allow you tsafeh rifa’ el sleh, ……

  So let him issue a direct apology. This is the minimum. The second and I repeat an innocent man, first thing he does is clear his name from crimes he didn’t commit.

  Hek bi koun kbir w rijel.

• 16. danny | September 26th, 2008 at 3:03 pm

  Rambo,

  You sound so aouny! There was a general amnesty for civil war crimes/atrocities…
  Why do yous till insisit in dredging the past? Is this your General’s idea of building a strong tommorow?
  Come on now stop the childish taunts!! ”

  “So if he is innocnet he will ask to clear his name. That what every innocent man will do.”

  …just in case you are still in a cloud; there was a war! People died and there were goons and murderers! Yes! They agreed to wash off the past to build a future1 EXCEPT for clAOUN!

• 17. Delta | September 26th, 2008 at 3:17 pm

  Rambo man again do u have any proof that we killed zeyek….

  and i do say the Lf forces killed karami yes 3omro ma yirga3 chu badak nherib bi rubber bullets wkeno nezlin fina bil 155 man its a war wkarami was one of the garbage that was trying to run for presidency and over come the constitution and the christian rights kalb wmet ,

  but again bring a proof do u have one?????

• 18. nnh | September 26th, 2008 at 6:37 pm

  Rambo khayye when you try to accuse dr. geagea of some of the crimes try to base your accusations on facts please not just say he did that and he commited that.

  Concerning the issue of monseigneur khreich.

  First the uncle of monseigneur khreich cardinal khreich never accused Dr. samir geagea of this act and this enough proves to me that dr. geagea never did this crime.

  Second concerning the zaynoun issue I don’t think that zaynoun was killed for the fun of it. Zaynoun was executed because he was a traitor and fouad malek convinced dr. geagea that he needs to execute zaynoun for him to be set as an example.
  In addition to that have you ever wondered why some of aoun’s soldiers assasinated in cold blood three army officers when they refused to abide to the orders of attacking the lf during ilgha war.

  Concerning the issue of karami I think maybe we should accuse michel aoun since the explosion happened in an army helicopter. The investigations that the army did after this assassination came to the conclusion that the bomb was placed in tripoli and general aoun once said that the helicopter landed in zgharta and tripoli without protection. So if you want to accept what the syrians say than think how many accusations would aoun have faced if he was caught after 13 october. Since if you can review history you might know that the karami family accused the army and gma of killing rachid karami and when moufti hassan khaled and rene mouawad were assasinated sana television and techrin newspaper directly accused michel aoun of this act.

  Concerning elias zayeck he was just killed because of captagone pill deals. Elias el zayeck had no tanks no artillery and no soldiers so y would dr. geagea be afraid of him like you state.

  So if you want dr. geagea to face trial let the people file a lawsuit against him and then an investigation would be opened and afterwards if the investigation found he is a suspect he will than face trial.

  Please rambo try to think reasonably and try not to blame the bad things that happened in the war just to dr. geagea.

• 19. Rambo | September 26th, 2008 at 8:19 pm

  Danny,

  Geagea wasn’t cleared under the general amnesty. He was cleared with a special one. One created by Hariri family to free Gegaea and make him under their mercy and use him and free muslims extremists.

  Every person who speaks different than you, you label him aouni, this is the best the LF can come out with today? Haram el lavage de cerveaux.

  Yes people died in war, but I am not talking about thsoe. I am talking about the one Geagea ordered their assassination.

  Why I am talking like this, because of his so called forgive us insult.

  He was convicted and freed by an special amnesty law, if he wants to clear his name and prove his innocense, he must re-open the cases.

  If he is innocent he would have re-opened them. He will always be guilty till the day he decides to clear his name.

  Se3ita bi koun kbir. So far he is not that kbir. Bithito Franjieh the grand pa who killed people in church, Geagea did the same in Zahle while trying to assassinated Elie HObeika. Haideh mish jarimeh kamen? Haidol yali died in that church keno wejib watani?

• 20. danny | September 26th, 2008 at 9:35 pm

  Geagea was covered by the amnesty after the war ended! However, your current friends the Syrians manufactured evidence and rammed a coviction through so called courts; inspite of the amnesty(I wandered who was going to complain???)!

  As for DSG’s release from prison for a murder that they could not prove even with manufactured evidence…Good for everyone. He is innocent and was jailed by mukhabarati tactics. Now I know you see those new friends of yours; the Syrian regime as a flagbearer of democratic values…excuse me if I do not share your enthusiasm!

  Again, you are echoing what your Orange mental patient is saying…

  You see; your justification of others’ crimes proves my point! You are trapped in a convoluted web. Get rid of your fears and join the civic society!

• 21. Rambo | September 26th, 2008 at 10:26 pm

  Hey Danny, can you come up with better things than aounies my friends, syrian my friends, …. probably when we were fightng the syrians you were not born yet and when geagea was in jail you were hiding with others while we were working for his freedom and the freedom of other rifa’.

  Again the mentality of my fellow rifa’ will never evolve. If I oppose them and if I talk directly about Geagea and criticise his words I am a traitor in their eyes. Typical Arab mentality.

  Anyway, covered by a special amnesty law , maybe here you need to concentrate in order to learn something, doesn’t mean the person is cleared from the charges and he is innocent.

  If Geagea knows that he is innocent he would have re-opened the cases. He will stay guilty till he re-opens and clears his name.

  By the way my friends are under ground, they are the one who died for you to stay free. They are the one who you remember once a year.

  By the way, go back to all Geagea speeches since he took power, Check the martyrs day and you will find out that this year it was the first time he mentions Bachir. After removing all his pictures and forgetting about him, tzakaro this year. Soubhan el intikhabit shu bta3mil.

  So when will he re-open the case to clear his name? If you do not have an answer, then no need to reply.

• 22. nnh08 | September 27th, 2008 at 4:41 am

  Rambo teslamle i gave you an answer to all your questions in my previous post so please bother yourself a little bit and read it.

  If you say that dr. geagea needs to reopen the case to clear his name from accusations fabricated by he syrian regime than i will support you with that but in one condition that all the lebanese leaders who had a hand in the lebanese should gol to jail and spend 11 years and 3 month like dr. geagea did.

  Second for us geagea is not a saint we criticize him for lots of things but at the end he is the a3war bayn kel el 3emyen 7aliyan.

  Third DSG always used to mention cheikh bachir el gemayel take for instance al massira issue before martyr day in 1988 their was an interview with dr. geagea were he talked mostly about the martyrdom of cheikh bachir.

  In addition to that the calendar distribuled by the lf in 89 had one picture were lf soldiers were holding the map of lebanon with cheikh bachir’s picture on the map.

  Please rambo or whatever you are called if you want to add anymore comments to this post read my previous reply and this one also before you try to go on with your accusations.

• 23. nnh08 | September 27th, 2008 at 4:44 am

  If you say that dr. geagea needs to reopen the case to clear his name from accusations fabricated by he syrian regime than i will support you with that but in one condition that all the lebanese leaders who had a hand in the lebanese war should go to jail and spend 11 years and 3 month like dr. geagea did.

• 24. Rambo | September 27th, 2008 at 3:18 pm

  nnh08 go listen to all his speeches during that day and see how he forgot about him. Kina 3ala el ared and we know who took down Bachir’s pictures and who closed his office in Majlis. WHo kicked Solange out of her office in majlis, ….

  If I am accused by who ever and I knwo I am not guilty I care the cases to clear my name and do not give a damn about others who might be real criminals. It is my anme here and not others.

  W hek bi koun sar kbir. La hala’ ba3do mkhaba wara usb3o w ma byistarje at least to say direct apologie for the people.

  Imagine the LF did their best to kick out Zaynoun brother (a handicap and rafi’ bachir) from the church during Bachir’s mass in ashrafieh.

  جعجع نفسه، الذي وقف وقفة الشهم في جونيه، واعتذر عن الأخطاء التي مورست، لم يغيّر في نهجه، على ما يبدو، فرجاله أخرجوا شقيق سمير زينون، إلياس زينون، المقعد، بقوّة السلاح، من قدّاس بشير الجميّل قبل أسبوع. زينون، وفي حديث إلى صوت الغد، إستهجن اعتداء شباب جعجع بالسلاح على شقيقه داخل الكنيسة، شقيقه إلياس زينون، الحائز على وسام خاص من بشير الجميّل، والذي اعتاد سنوياً حضور قدّاس بشير، واستهجن كيفية طرده من الكنيسة، سائلاً: أين هي السيدة صولانج بشير الجميّل؟

• 25. nnh08 | September 27th, 2008 at 7:01 pm

  This is a link for you rambo where you could find an article where dr. geagea remembers cheikh bachir.
  http://ikbis.com/patrickharb/shot/23529?title=Dr.+Samir+Geagea+writing+%22Bachir+El-Jemayel%22

  In aadition to that take all feb 14 demonstrations before dr. geagea mentions the martyrdom of any politicians he mentions the martyrdom of cheikh bachir.

  One more thing if you say he did all this for cheikh bachir and for solange ma32oul solange btesta2eblo in the mass of cheikh bachir and her son nadim thanks him in his two last speeches. Ma32oul bi nazarak hal 2ad marto w 3ayelto lal cheikh bachir bala karame and if you really love cheikh bachir i think you shouldn’t tell lies that show his family as without dignity. But this is your problem you aounies you always try to create stories in order to hurt the reputation of your opponents.

  Second please read my previous posts better . I stated before “So if you want dr. geagea to face trial let the people file a lawsuit against him and then an investigation would be opened and afterwards if the investigation found he is a suspect he will than face trial. ” This is the right legal way of how things happen.

  Third concerning the brother of zaynoun please don’t just read tayyar.org and believe all that they say. Since I read this article like you but i asked myself that in this mass where all the lebanese tv stations were filming nobody caught this on tape and nobody talked about it except tayyar.org. Samir Zaynoun is no more than a traitor he used to work with elie hobeika on getting cars filled with explosives to el manta2a el char2iya and he was planning to assasinate dr. geagea. I told you before tayyar.org are trying to show you that the lf did the execution for the fun of it but please think more and try to find out y this execution was undertaken. In addition to that dr. geagea did not want to execute samir zaynoun but he was convinced by fouad malek that he needs to be set as an example. Sometimes people get to lose their principles in front of money and this is what happened to samir zaynoun and his brothers did not open their mouth before about this issue bcs they knew of what their brother did but after they got some money from manar they decided to reopen this case. They also stated that dr. geagea tried to reconcile with them but they refused and asked for a public apology. Apology for what, for executing a traitor who was planning to kill him and kill thousands of christians with cars packed by explosives.

• 26. Rambo | September 27th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

  nnh08 no need to upload stuff, those things we read on lebanese-forces.org at that time.

  I am asking you to go listen to his speeches on martyrs days or any other day after bachir assassination.

  It seems you are a young kid and no clue what happened after. Maybe you should read what Solange used to say before.

  As for Zaynoun, the family is free to talk now. But the problem is that neither you or any one else is asking who gave Samir Geagea the right to execute Zaynoun?

  Lawsuit are coming once the Justice minister is not an LF because he got him there to delay these courts to after the elections.

  Zaynoun, Msgr Khreish, the bomb of zahle inside the church, … they are coming. It is just a matter of time.

  Bas iza kbir Geagea he should clear his name from the one he was accused and conviceted of doing. As long as he doesn’t he will always be a convicted murderer.

• 27. nnh08 | September 28th, 2008 at 3:23 pm

  Rambo it seems you are a young kid since a fully grown up man want name himself rambo on the discussion board.

  Second i told you do you think hal2ad bachir’ family is bala karame reply me. And if i should go read what solange used to say please give me a link w 3a rase bcs i can not read something that does not exist.

  Third if you excuse me i want to upload some stuff
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-tqDkReoTU&feature=related
  This is the martyr mass in harissa in 2006 listen to the speech at 9:20

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggqZ4cdbwKs
  This is samir geagea talking to wafed men el achrafiyeh in 1989 listen at 1:35

  http://www.samirgeagea.com/images/index-Pages/Image11.html

  This is a picture for samir geagea giving a lecture and above him is the pic of cheikh bachir

  And there are lots of stuff and stuff but I could not find them as links on the internet.

  Concerning the justice ministry y aoun did not take it the lebanese forcess took it bcs it was the last good ministry present for the 14 march alliance after aoun and 8 march chose their ministries.

  W maybe u would like to see adnan adoum as justice minister maybe on his days justice will be served.

  If we want to talk about who gave the lf the right to execute zaynoun. than i tell you that these are the same causes that gave the lf the right to hold weapons in the beginning and the right for cheikh bachir to organize the lf. The only cause is the absence of a powerful state which defends its people. I am against the execution of zaynoun but at the end some people need to be set as example.

  P.S. when you say something please give references to it.

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