Comments on: The LF have been training for some months now!!! http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/ Personal Views and opionions of Lebanese Forces members Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:24:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: PAULETTE http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/comment-page-1/#comment-137429 PAULETTE Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:23:13 +0000 http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/#comment-137429 DON'T ARGUE WITH ARZE.SHE'S STUBBORNED & BRAINWASHED.TOMORROW THE COMING DAYS WILL WATCH HER WHAT SHE DOES'NT WANT TO SEE. "EZA AHLAK MA 3ALLAMOUK, L7AYET BIT3ALLMAK".SO ARZE GO FISH. DON’T ARGUE WITH ARZE.SHE’S STUBBORNED & BRAINWASHED.TOMORROW THE COMING DAYS WILL WATCH HER WHAT SHE DOES’NT WANT TO SEE. “EZA AHLAK MA 3ALLAMOUK, L7AYET BIT3ALLMAK”.SO ARZE GO FISH.

]]> By: othello http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/comment-page-1/#comment-118156 othello Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:30:29 +0000 http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/#comment-118156 From Nahar al Shabab interview: * تقرير مجلس الوزراء عن التسلح لم لا يتابع؟ اعتقد انه صدرت معلومات كثيرة في هذا الخصوص وتسربت الى الاعلام. وقيل في التحديد ان هناك الى "التيار الوطني الحر"، تدريبات لـ"تيار المستقبل" في اطار شركات الأمن في الاردن. وتبين ان الحزب السياسي الوحيد الذي لا يتدرب ولا يتسلح هو "القوات اللبنانية". * ربما لأنهم لا يحتاجون الى التدريب... افضل انتصار هو ذلك الذي نحققه من دون ان نذهب الى المعركة. يمكن ان نجد اناساً يسعون الى الشغب، وبدل الالتهاء بهم الافضل ان نتابع الامر مع القضاء. وانا لا ارى في المدى المنظور حرباً اهلية، ولكن ربما محاولات لاثارة فوضى كما حدث في 23 كانون الثاني و25 منه. ولكن لا حرب أهلية، لأن هذه تحتاج الى طرفين. From Nahar al Shabab interview:

* تقرير مجلس الوزراء عن التسلح لم لا يتابع؟

اعتقد انه صدرت معلومات كثيرة في هذا الخصوص وتسربت الى الاعلام. وقيل في التحديد ان هناك الى “التيار الوطني الحر”، تدريبات لـ”تيار المستقبل” في اطار شركات الأمن في الاردن. وتبين ان الحزب السياسي الوحيد الذي لا يتدرب ولا يتسلح هو “القوات اللبنانية”.

* ربما لأنهم لا يحتاجون الى التدريب…

افضل انتصار هو ذلك الذي نحققه من دون ان نذهب الى المعركة. يمكن ان نجد اناساً يسعون الى الشغب، وبدل الالتهاء بهم الافضل ان نتابع الامر مع القضاء. وانا لا ارى في المدى المنظور حرباً اهلية، ولكن ربما محاولات لاثارة فوضى كما حدث في 23 كانون الثاني و25 منه. ولكن لا حرب أهلية، لأن هذه تحتاج الى طرفين.

]]> By: othello http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/comment-page-1/#comment-118094 othello Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:27:39 +0000 http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/#comment-118094 Arze..you see this is where u r wrong: 1-do not paint things as if the aounists were having a peace and love demo and the LFers just jumped on them and started shooting them...its not that far for people to have forgotten: a- aoun coming to tv one day before and warning people from going to work...eno warning??? what right has he???? b- let me remind you that aounists were burning tires and blocking ALL roads and that there was a clear intent on cutting vital roads and thereby blockading entire areas. so no the aounists were not doing a hippie style "make love not war" kind of demo. 2- let me remind you that groups arming and training themselves later on became MILITIAS...and those same militias, mr aoun built himself a group of followers based on his beliefs that they should not exist....so now dont you see it ironic that aoun should be forming himslef militias??????? 3- in Lebanon EVERYONE has a weapon of some sort...its cultural...but NOT EVERYONE is receiving training as to how to use it militarily. you heard this or you heard that cannot be used as proof...and quite frankly, I very much doubt that the sources who told you LF were training were honnest in their reports...in fact the Military intelligence (a group well known for its HATRED of the LF) has not been able to find anything out...and your friends have??? give me a break... 4- you seem to have a pretty wacked idea as to LF ideologies and way of thinking...and most likely your ideas are entirely based on hearsay and propaganda....anyways, I will not dive into an attempt to clear this picture from your head...I know from experience that most aounists when presented with HARD CORE EVIDENCE will choose to ignore it because internally they cannot accept the fact they were wrong all along... Arze..you see this is where u r wrong:

1-do not paint things as if the aounists were having a peace and love demo and the LFers just jumped on them and started shooting them…its not that far for people to have forgotten:
a- aoun coming to tv one day before and warning people from going to work…eno warning??? what right has he????

b- let me remind you that aounists were burning tires and blocking ALL roads and that there was a clear intent on cutting vital roads and thereby blockading entire areas.

so no the aounists were not doing a hippie style “make love not war” kind of demo.

2- let me remind you that groups arming and training themselves later on became MILITIAS…and those same militias, mr aoun built himself a group of followers based on his beliefs that they should not exist….so now dont you see it ironic that aoun should be forming himslef militias???????

3- in Lebanon EVERYONE has a weapon of some sort…its cultural…but NOT EVERYONE is receiving training as to how to use it militarily. you heard this or you heard that cannot be used as proof…and quite frankly, I very much doubt that the sources who told you LF were training were honnest in their reports…in fact the Military intelligence (a group well known for its HATRED of the LF) has not been able to find anything out…and your friends have??? give me a break…

4- you seem to have a pretty wacked idea as to LF ideologies and way of thinking…and most likely your ideas are entirely based on hearsay and propaganda….anyways, I will not dive into an attempt to clear this picture from your head…I know from experience that most aounists when presented with HARD CORE EVIDENCE will choose to ignore it because internally they cannot accept the fact they were wrong all along…

]]> By: Bachir 7ay Fina http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/comment-page-1/#comment-117246 Bachir 7ay Fina Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:48:55 +0000 http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/#comment-117246 Lebanese jeyeba haye2tak men jaridit teshrin aw lba3ss la heide el khabariyye ?? Lebanese
jeyeba haye2tak men jaridit teshrin aw lba3ss la heide el khabariyye ??

]]> By: arze http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/comment-page-1/#comment-117177 arze Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:28:01 +0000 http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/#comment-117177 Othello , unfortunly this is happening in both camps....The lfers and the Aounist . From One side I dont blame the Aounits because after last tiem , they learn that they should defend them selves next time when they ask for a social issues or fair taxe or or or or , becase they will know that a police called the New Lfers will face them with guns....SO i dont blame the Aonist for getting armed and trained ....On the other Side the Lfers? they have always had weapons , and half my friends are LFers so i know it...and i know they get trained , and what they talk between themselves is not at all what geagea is talking on the Media....And Geagea is aware of all this weapons and training , and maybe covering it ...and its normal ...Everything is normal guys :) we are going to a Federation unfortunly...You guys should be happy ! But know....that the only way you can have a federation , is by a War ...and its Coming. It will start with Wars between religions , then religions them selves , then sect them selves , the LFers them selves and and and and , ull have the baladiet achrafieh in 3 areas , and baladie el jdeide in 3 areas and and and ..this is the next Lebanon from a 10452 KM2 to 10 452 Provinces Othello , unfortunly this is happening in both camps….The lfers and the Aounist . From One side I dont blame the Aounits because after last tiem , they learn that they should defend them selves next time when they ask for a social issues or fair taxe or or or or , becase they will know that a police called the New Lfers will face them with guns….SO i dont blame the Aonist for getting armed and trained ….On the other Side the Lfers? they have always had weapons , and half my friends are LFers so i know it…and i know they get trained , and what they talk between themselves is not at all what geagea is talking on the Media….And Geagea is aware of all this weapons and training , and maybe covering it …and its normal …Everything is normal guys :) we are going to a Federation unfortunly…You guys should be happy ! But know….that the only way you can have a federation , is by a War …and its Coming. It will start with Wars between religions , then religions them selves , then sect them selves , the LFers them selves and and and and , ull have the baladiet achrafieh in 3 areas , and baladie el jdeide in 3 areas and and and ..this is the next Lebanon from a 10452 KM2 to 10 452 Provinces

]]> By: othello http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/comment-page-1/#comment-117166 othello Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:28:01 +0000 http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/#comment-117166 you must be mixing then between paul and me dear arze...I am Othello. not Paul. you see when a person is willing to deny what his/her eyes see because it is against what he/she is told, this is not a good sign at all... when we choose to follow what we are told and decide to ignore the senses God himself gave us to guide us, this means we are asking to be misguided...watch out... thanks for taking the time to read.... on the other hand, I see for example truckloads of weapons bringing AKs and other light weapons to christian areas like metn, batroun etc...and I also see the guys int he neighborhood suddenly disappear for 2 or 3 weeks in a row to come back with a suntan and an attitude problem.... we are not on deserted islands you know... I also see people of known belonging asking questions left and right about addresses and names etc...and all this rings bells no matter what is being told... so next time, trust what you see and trust not what someone with a history that would fill books (especially a history of lying and fabricating) tells you... cheers you must be mixing then between paul and me dear arze…I am Othello. not Paul.

you see when a person is willing to deny what his/her eyes see because it is against what he/she is told, this is not a good sign at all…

when we choose to follow what we are told and decide to ignore the senses God himself gave us to guide us, this means we are asking to be misguided…watch out…

thanks for taking the time to read….

on the other hand, I see for example truckloads of weapons bringing AKs and other light weapons to christian areas like metn, batroun etc…and I also see the guys int he neighborhood suddenly disappear for 2 or 3 weeks in a row to come back with a suntan and an attitude problem….

we are not on deserted islands you know…

I also see people of known belonging asking questions left and right about addresses and names etc…and all this rings bells no matter what is being told…

so next time, trust what you see and trust not what someone with a history that would fill books (especially a history of lying and fabricating) tells you…

cheers

]]> By: arze http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/comment-page-1/#comment-117164 arze Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:20:16 +0000 http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/#comment-117164 Yes..the old LFers were not thugs who killed and raipe...yes Paul u are right...when i said to good to be true ..I ment its to good to be true , to believe that the new lfers are not getting trained...I mean even if see with my naked eyes..i wont believe it :) sorry .... PS: I really appreciate all that reply :) and your time...yeah i read it all Yes..the old LFers were not thugs who killed and raipe…yes Paul u are right…when i said to good to be true ..I ment its to good to be true , to believe that the new lfers are not getting trained…I mean even if see with my naked eyes..i wont believe it :) sorry ….
PS: I really appreciate all that reply :) and your time…yeah i read it all

]]> By: othello http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/comment-page-1/#comment-117149 othello Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:25:15 +0000 http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/#comment-117149 oh and by the way my dear "Lebanese"... you reminded me of a quote that rang in my head as I was reading your so called article: "wa younassibouna min anfousihim koudatan tarikhiyin li mou7akamat al abria2 wa tabri2at al a3da2" oh and by the way my dear “Lebanese”…

you reminded me of a quote that rang in my head as I was reading your so called article:

“wa younassibouna min anfousihim koudatan tarikhiyin li mou7akamat al abria2 wa tabri2at al a3da2″

]]> By: othello http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/comment-page-1/#comment-117148 othello Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:23:23 +0000 http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/#comment-117148 Lebanese....I am reading (and having a blast at laughing at the contents) 1- the line we are following is more than 30 years old my friend...it is the historic line of the LF and that is to prevent the syrian control of lebanon and to establish a strong and sovereign country. At least those we are allied with today have left the syrian line. they do not call themselves "al sawra al islamia fi lubnan" or "al 7izb al kawmi al souri" or "al ba3th al 3arabi"... 2- the history of the Lf is one we are proud to uphold and remember for eyars to come...can you say the same about what you are doing today??? how will you explain to your kids your alliance with HA when 2 years ago you were accusing them of being pro iranian/syrian terrorist groups??? how will you explain to your kids that the general that burned Lebanon because he did not want any other rifle besided that of the army and did not want any militias on the ground is today protecting a militia??? how will you explain to your kids that your allies are supported both financially and militarily by syria who still has many interrests in Lebanon and plans to re-establish itself here...was this not the reason the FPM was formed??? to resist syrian occupation???????????????? how will you explain to your kids that your allies are called slaymen franjiyi and wi2am wahab and nasser andil...those very people that EVERY SINGLE DAY pledge their allegiance to syria??????????? how will you explain to your kids that you are willing to burn the country over and over again just to get one man to the chair...without even knowing his agenda for the country??? anyways I leave you with those quesitons...most likely you will come out with some other fabrication and truth twisting to make it appear that you are rtight... you remind me of the story of the kid that failed the exams... so he came home and started explaining to his dad that the teacher was against him, that his table was badly placed, that his pens were not working properly and all sorts of excuses to cover one simple fact: HE HAD NOT STUDIED FOR THE EXAM. so study hard my friend and do your homework... innal tarikha youmhilou wala youhmil.... Lebanese….I am reading (and having a blast at laughing at the contents)

1- the line we are following is more than 30 years old my friend…it is the historic line of the LF and that is to prevent the syrian control of lebanon and to establish a strong and sovereign country. At least those we are allied with today have left the syrian line. they do not call themselves “al sawra al islamia fi lubnan” or “al 7izb al kawmi al souri” or “al ba3th al 3arabi”…

2- the history of the Lf is one we are proud to uphold and remember for eyars to come…can you say the same about what you are doing today???

how will you explain to your kids your alliance with HA when 2 years ago you were accusing them of being pro iranian/syrian terrorist groups???

how will you explain to your kids that the general that burned Lebanon because he did not want any other rifle besided that of the army and did not want any militias on the ground is today protecting a militia???

how will you explain to your kids that your allies are supported both financially and militarily by syria who still has many interrests in Lebanon and plans to re-establish itself here…was this not the reason the FPM was formed??? to resist syrian occupation????????????????

how will you explain to your kids that your allies are called slaymen franjiyi and wi2am wahab and nasser andil…those very people that EVERY SINGLE DAY pledge their allegiance to syria???????????

how will you explain to your kids that you are willing to burn the country over and over again just to get one man to the chair…without even knowing his agenda for the country???

anyways I leave you with those quesitons…most likely you will come out with some other fabrication and truth twisting to make it appear that you are rtight…

you remind me of the story of the kid that failed the exams… so he came home and started explaining to his dad that the teacher was against him, that his table was badly placed, that his pens were not working properly and all sorts of excuses to cover one simple fact: HE HAD NOT STUDIED FOR THE EXAM.

so study hard my friend and do your homework…

innal tarikha youmhilou wala youhmil….

]]> By: othello http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/comment-page-1/#comment-117143 othello Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:12:37 +0000 http://www.ouwet.com/othello/editorials/the-lf-have-been-training-for-some-months-now/#comment-117143 Lebanese... and the guy was shooting at the demonstrators in Naher el mowt was real as well? and Amine killed his son to take over I dont know what? or was it Hakim who killed pierre to take over the MP seat of metn???? and I guess Saad killed his father to inherit the seat as well???? as for the wake up call...start by practising what you yourself preach amigo... look where you are today... you would believe anything as long as it discredits M14 and clears out your syrian allies... who is asleep and living in lala land??? who is completely out of it??? tell me besides false allegations and huge alterations of the truth, what does this article proove???? give me ONE shred of CONCRETE evidence??? kello il w al...latlati in other words... 3ayb man...sta7o tante josephine w tante amelie ye3mlo hayk... teni shi you have a source for this document??? for all I know you might have written it yourself 1- from the French intelligence to Michel aoun...do you believe this crap?????? 2- its andre obeid now??? what ever happened to tony obeid??? or should we ask your ally slaymen franjiyi???? 3- french intell working under cover?? where the hell do you get your stuff from man? 4- i thought Ghanem was killed because he was getting closer to the general...sbatoulkoun 3a shi riweyi wlo...it could help you sound a little (I say a little) more credible man.... I am now more than convinced that you guys not only fabricate stories, but worse, begin to believe your own fabrications as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yalla better luck with your next piece of fiction...maybe you can find people naive enough to swallow it...over here we dont... neeeext... Lebanese…

and the guy was shooting at the demonstrators in Naher el mowt was real as well?

and Amine killed his son to take over I dont know what?

or was it Hakim who killed pierre to take over the MP seat of metn????

and I guess Saad killed his father to inherit the seat as well????

as for the wake up call…start by practising what you yourself preach amigo…

look where you are today…

you would believe anything as long as it discredits M14 and clears out your syrian allies…

who is asleep and living in lala land???

who is completely out of it???

tell me besides false allegations and huge alterations of the truth, what does this article proove????

give me ONE shred of CONCRETE evidence???

kello il w al…latlati in other words…

3ayb man…sta7o tante josephine w tante amelie ye3mlo hayk…

teni shi you have a source for this document??? for all I know you might have written it yourself

1- from the French intelligence to Michel aoun…do you believe this crap??????

2- its andre obeid now??? what ever happened to tony obeid??? or should we ask your ally slaymen franjiyi????

3- french intell working under cover?? where the hell do you get your stuff from man?

4- i thought Ghanem was killed because he was getting closer to the general…sbatoulkoun 3a shi riweyi wlo…it could help you sound a little (I say a little) more credible man….

I am now more than convinced that you guys not only fabricate stories, but worse, begin to believe your own fabrications as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yalla better luck with your next piece of fiction…maybe you can find people naive enough to swallow it…over here we dont…

neeeext…

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