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• 1. nabil | November 27th, 2007 at 11:02 am

  Dear Othello, The base of 14th March is 13 october 1990,GMA Lefted his people but the other were slaves to syrian regime, Dr. Geagea’s allies CZ “the Bankrupt of Lebanon”,After all remember that LF were allies with HA at Zahle & Baabda-Aley elections, … Finally, Why dont u ask yourself why Dr. Geagea live in castle (it cost about 30 millions USD) and he is a son of a soldier !!

• 2. othello | November 27th, 2007 at 11:09 am

  dear…Nabil

  I will tackle your questions one by one although they have nothing to do with the subject on hand.

  1- the LF were NOT allies of either HA nor Amal simply because DSG was in jail back then. plus the quadruple alliance was formed of HA/Amal/PSP and FM…I dont see LF in there or else it would have been the quintuple alliance.

  2- GMA as you say did not just “lefted” (actually it should have been leave or left but anyways…) his people…he made promises to them to keep them fighting and ran away and hid. for your info, in ANY MILITARY circle, this is called DESERTION and is punishable by death…AFAIK this is even more dangerous and dirty than embezzling a couple of millions.

  3- GMA as you say, before leaving, had all the people pay HUGE amounts of money…money which later on surfaced in a french bank account…

  4- DSG’s “castle” as you call it is not his. It is the headquarters of the Lebanese Forces party. as for the 30 mil…do you have any paper work to prove this cost??? if you do, please show us…if you dont…no one needs tante josephine’s coffee time tle2lo2 over here.

  now please stick to the point…

• 3. Rodge | November 27th, 2007 at 11:40 am

  The post explains itself, and we do need to comment. Good work Othello, and i hope the Orangists will think a liitle this time to realize if any of the promises was achieved.

  As for Nabil, i have to cooment on one thing, when you said “the other were slaves to syrian regime” and of course you meant among them the LF. I don’t have to defend the others, but just want to ask and please tell me, how can a slave be put in jail and underground for 11 years????

• 4. nabil | November 27th, 2007 at 11:59 am

  Brother Rodge, i didnt mean that LFers were slaves … wathever, if u still remenber “LF supported the syrian shelling” on christian area at 13/10/1990 it’s worsiest than being slaves … regards.

• 5. JohnnyB | November 27th, 2007 at 12:00 pm

  NICE ARTICLE, VERY NICE

• 6. othello | November 27th, 2007 at 12:03 pm

  nabil

  do something about the english pal…its the “worsiest” (read here the worst) ever

  back to serious stuff: we are not here to discuss what the LF MAY or MAY NOT have done…we are here to discuss aouns FAILED promises…

  after all aoun is the presidential candidate and aoun is the guy promoting himself as THE guy and aoun is the guy claiming ana aw la ahad… so it is up to aoun to defend himself and his blind followers to explain the reason they follow so blindly…

• 7. othello | November 27th, 2007 at 12:09 pm

  Aounists are AMAZZING…

  they come to you pretending they are in the middle…la ma3 hayda wla ma3 haydak…how do you recognize them???

  1- General Michel Aoun or GMA for short…hayda iza ma alo fakhamit el ra2iss ka2id el jaysh al 3imad al moudajaj al mouhallal michel aoun

  2- scratch a little bit the surface and you see the orange paint come out

  3- they will recite (THE SAME) canned stories told that happened while they probably had not graduated to using a feeding bottle…gosh you guys…I mean add a twist to the story…add something to make it look like you do know something….

  aaaah and when you ask them, say about the LF shelling, what do they tell you: ana shefta bi 3inayi…yeah sure as if when its pouring shells u have the time to sit cosilly and inspect the identity of each coming shell…khedlak mala ossass ya zalami

  nabil nabil nabil…I thought an educated guy like you could do better…you disappoint me

• 8. nabil | November 27th, 2007 at 12:14 pm

  Dear Othello, i lived 6 years at camberra (Australia) we used to talk different words, by the way … teach me english, i ll teach you politics …

• 9. Pierre Richa | November 27th, 2007 at 12:43 pm

  Othello!!!

  You are amazing and your Allies as well!!!
  All of your allies are Pro Syrian… Nt Aoun who fighted Syrian occupation and still asking for an official representation between two different countries!!!

  Sooner and later you will find yourself (I mean LF) alone and outside all the game, and you will be the only one that fighted for civil war!!!

  Read the below, the story will come to the end, and this now also a bad end to the Christians, all Christians, LF and others because as usual, all parties are united (Islams and Druze), and Christians are not!!! becuase of stupid leaders that you are following in the top are GEAGEA and in the second row AOUN!!!

  بناءً على تمنّيات النائب سعد الدين الحريري، ألغى النائب وليد جنبلاط مؤتمره الصحافي الذي كان مقرراً أمس، وذلك ربطاً بالحد من الانعكاسات السلبية لمواقف جنبلاط الأخيرة على قيادات في فريق الأكثرية، وخصوصاً على نواب الفريق «المسجونين» في فندق فينيسيا، حيث نُسب إلى أحدهم قوله: «نحن هنا في السجن، وجنبلاط يبحث عن خارطة طريق للانسحاب». وكان قد تردّد أن جنبلاط أراد في المؤتمر توجيه النقد إلى اجتماع أنابوليس لجهة احتمال عقد تسوية على حساب لبنان.

• 10. othello | November 27th, 2007 at 12:53 pm

  nabil nabil nabil…

  1- whether u lived six or six hundred years…there are some mistakes that are not made in the English language…

  2- as for your offer to teach me, well unlike you, I do not learn politics from people. I read and analyze by myself…

  you see when people learn politics from other people, they end up being just like you …that is politically IGNORANT…

  and when you post on a political blog this makes things worse

  now for your own sake, instead of studying the english spoken down under, why dont you go look at the history of Lebanon??? to make it easier, try looking at events from 1975 to today…I guess 31 years ought to be enough for even a person like you to UNDERSTAND and DISCOVER what really went on…

  an advice, don’t rely on publicaitons like Al Akhbar or Al Tayyar…not because they are pro M8 noooo…but because they don’t really emphasize on INTEGRITY of their stories going as far as even FABRICATING them if they do not exist…

• 11. othello | November 27th, 2007 at 12:57 pm

  Pierre…

  oh MY allies are pro syrian eh??? tell me Hassan Nasrallah where does he gets his weapons from???

  Nabih Berri is who’s hencheman????

  Wi2am Wahab who has graced us over the last couple of months with his undying admiration of aoun…who made him????

  need I go on??? slaymen franjiyi …rings any bells???

  regarding your so called “news extract” I cant find a polite way to tell you what to do with it, but while you are at it, check out what I explained to your friend nabil in my reply above about such news papers…the fact you did not say where this clipping came from tells me you either got it from one of those two “sources” or worse , from Teshrin or Sawra the syrian equivalents of al akhbar….

  but then hey…dont let me burst your bubble…just sit tight and wait for “my story to come to an end” as you put it…enjoy

• 12. nabil | November 27th, 2007 at 1:19 pm

  Dear Othello, our allies are pro-syrian, your allies are christians butchers … (at mountain war)… rings any bells !

• 13. Michele | November 27th, 2007 at 1:31 pm

  othello, what’s wrong with these pro orange?

  Nabil says : Lefted and worsiest
  Pierre says: Fighted

  Can somebody please teach them proper English as for teaching them politics would be a hopeless case….

• 14. othello | November 27th, 2007 at 1:35 pm

  Nabil…and my dad is stronger than your dad…gosh man you just took me back like 39 years to kindergarten days…rez2alla…

  anyways why do I bother arguing with someone who does not know the difference between dialog and monolog???

• 15. othello | November 27th, 2007 at 1:36 pm

  Michelle…walaw this is the way he was taught in Canberra…bet you they are the same person…;) eno its not unheard of aounists faking things is it???

  as for teaching them anything…forget it…you’d have better luck in filling water into a bottomless barrel ..

• 16. ghassan K | November 27th, 2007 at 3:02 pm

  Othello,
  I like your posting. Please don’t waste your (and our) time correcting the English of others! Stick to the issues.

• 17. nabil | November 27th, 2007 at 3:05 pm

  Brother Othello, soon you ll join us, … look man Jumblat is changing now … and DSG will be alone … Goodbye Brother …

• 18. othello | November 27th, 2007 at 3:05 pm

  ghassan

  what are the issues you want me to stick to???? anything you felt was over looked???

  any clarifications you seek?

• 19. othello | November 27th, 2007 at 3:11 pm

  Nabil

  brothers we may be since we come from the same country…but me joining you? for what? people move forward in life and not backward…

  as for DSG being alone,

  1- we as LF always stood with the good of the people, wether we had the entire world with us or against us…popularity was never our primary goal…unlike some who would flip and flop just to hear the people clap for them

  2- had we been scared of being alone, we would have bended in 1994 and between 1994 and 2005…we did not.

  3- as for your analysis of WJ’s stances, well I already told you I will not burst your bubble…sooner or later you will wake up from your day dream and you will realize that while you were strolling in lala land, others were moving forward

  4- the only good thing I can take out of your post is that you do realize that some people change their stances for fear of being left alone…well take this theory and try to fit it on your general and his stances over the last 2 years you will notice it was tailor made for him…

  yalla cheers

• 20. nabil | November 27th, 2007 at 3:21 pm

  Othello, I was a pro-LFer when i was at Sagesse university, and now I am in the middle, look man, ask yourself for once why “Selman Semaha, Emile Rahme, Nader succar, Toufic Hindi,Fouad Malek, …” left DSG? Why LF is a one man show party? I respect your comments, but there are too many lack in LFer thoughts … See ya

• 21. Ra'fat | November 27th, 2007 at 3:34 pm

  Really funny us Lebanese, always arguing about the past and present whereas the future is what is important. We need to argue and discuss what plans we have for the future, not who has the worst allies. The only reason aoun has any followers is the LF’s fault. After BG’s assassination a lot of internal strife caused a lot of inner fighting and a lot of killings and humiliations among the LF ranks. This is what split the christian community and caused a lot of alienation, and I think it is obvious from the orangist rhetoric, they really hate the LF that’s why they follow aoun. Pretty sad that hate can blind people into following a circus monkey.

• 22. Pierre Richa | November 27th, 2007 at 3:36 pm

  Othello!!!
  Keep talking on a professional level..don’t loose your nerves and mind when you find no words to express, and when you find yourself without any proofs. Just crazy facts and situations that you learn from your supervisors.

  Can you explain to me the real political background of:

  - Nayla Mouawad (Who was the daily visitor to Angar!!!)
  - Hariri, Father, GrandPa and GrandGrandPa, that were the ones behind all Syrian activities in Lebanon
  - Jounblat, who is now recruiting himself back for a position with the Syrian regime before time run out
  - Amin Gmayel who is the one behind the Syrian Army back to lebanon
  - Sanioura, (The new Lebanese President as approved by the LF!!!) who was the first one claiming for the TVA so that Syrian can take money from Lebanon, along with all type of taxes, and the one claiming now to take 18% new TVA from people. With the total agree of the stupid christians leader representative ministers
  - Boutros Harb, who was only known as a deputy after being well accepted from Syria. Back two months from now , and when he declared that he will be running for the presidency, his wife visited Syria on a personal level and offered a $20,000 valuable gift. Artisana from the South
  - and the list goes on and on and on….

  I know that Berri is pro Syrian, and he declares it. Wiaam Wahab (or Barmil el Khara as you declare, also extra Pro Syrian. Sleiman Franjieh who protected all his area, and all his people, and only fighted for thei well, yes is a pro Syrian, and he declares it, but all know that without doing this and on the top of the roof, no christian will be present now in the North.
  At least these guys didn’t sleep with one intention and wake up with another, like your supervisors.
  HA also I agree with you that he receives all kind of helps, money and weapens from Syria and Iran. But if you read the (waraket al tafahom) that was done between them and FPM, it clearly states that HA will leave fighting for other than Lebanese cases, and search for free Lebanon! The same as was done in 3ahed al moutasarifia when it was the Grate Patriarch at that time who done a deal with Islam that they stop looking for a dependance with the great Syria and Christians will stop seeking dependance with France!!!

  Yes our followers are Pro Syrian, but deals are now to seek a free Lebanon!! Our if you consider me an FPM moover…..not a pure Lebanese seeking what is right for my children and not seeking refugees in the furture in foreign countries!!!
  But the difference with your followers is that they are Pr Syrian and they are keeping this card for a second usage, like is doing now Junblat!!!
  Congratualtions for your Political (Al moukhadramin!!) suervisors, who went Ya haram men doun ma ya3erfo, 7atta yelgho el gem3a al 3azimeh!!! add mannoun CHRISTIANS!! and now they are drinking chamaign because they have deleted the Chrisitian’s only political position, think that they have started from al ta2ef with Syrian diplomatics!!! and you are accusing others… for being PRO SYRIAN!!!!

  Ya 7aram chou baddak ba3ed 7atta tefhamm siyeisseh. It is better for you to read and to study it with specialized people, because your understanding for it is Null!!!

  Have a god luck studying Politics, and sure let Nabil teach you!!!

• 23. othello | November 27th, 2007 at 3:39 pm

  1- to show you how confused you are, you mixed names together that have NOTHING in common…

  Nader Succar left the LF before DSG went to jail because simply he thought that the LF should play along with the syrians whereas DSG thought it was against the fundamentals of the LF to do so.

  Emile Rahme…he opened up a party on his own when the time was for keeping the ranks as tight as possible

  Fou2ad Malek made his life’s mistake by falling for the pressure exerted on him by the syrians and working on opening a pro syrian LF much like pakradouni did to the kataeb. he was not as smart as pakradouni

  leave Selmen out of it…he is not to be mixed with the above names…neither is Toufik Hindi…those two had other reasons, again reasons UNRELATED to what you are claiming.

  and since you are speaking of names who left the LF, how come you forget to mention those who left aoun like Elie Mahfoud, Roger Edde, Amine Gemayel, Elias Zoghbi…the list is long amigo very long…you want to play this game two can tango…

  if you have problems with the way the LF is run, then I will tell you you know NOTHING. what you repeated is basically word of mouth and is as worthless as promises made by a port hooker to her 10th customer of the day for being faithful to him…

  before I forget ya Mr Middle Man…why are you so ashamed of admitting your political affiliation???? you were ex LF…my a$$…man you stink the orange smell from miles away…try changing your canned slogans man…a little bit of imagination would help

  yala oust…I will no longer reply to you because I am giving you more importance than you deserve…sort mfakar 7alak shi hala2 w sar badak tcheri3 3ala shi anja2 fehmo…

  go get yourself a life then an education then come post on a blog site

• 24. الله لا يردّك | November 27th, 2007 at 3:43 pm

  العماد عون في دردشة صحفية منذ قليل من الرابية
  وثيقة قيمّة وتاريخية سوف تصدر في ختام المشاورات التي نقوم بها، وانا حتى الآن لا أقول كلّ شيءبصوت عالٍ إفساحاً في المجال أمام القوى السياسية للتراجع عن مواقفها، وعن التحرّك الشعبي للمعارضة في الشارع إعتبر عون أنّ للشعب دوراَ اساسياَ فيه وعن مدى فعالية هذا التحرّك قال عون: “الشخص عادة يتحدث في ثلاث لهجات، الأولى متروية تحدثنا بها منذ عام ولم يسمعونا، الثانية سنستخدمها اليوم وهي تحذيرية لأنّ الوضع خاطئ وشاذ، وإن لم يتمّ تصحيحه ولم يعجبهم كلامنا في حينها سنستخدم اللهجة الثالثة المقرونة بالعمل.

  IS THAT NORMAL?

• 25. othello | November 27th, 2007 at 3:53 pm

  well he has to make it appear as if he is doing something no??/

  1- Mkhayel el Daher was quick to point out he was at aouns because of a previous agreement that had nothing to do with aouns invitations

  2- so were Frem and the Maronite league…

  wonder why aoun setup meetings with them ahead of time and then went on to pick those specific days

  aouns only strategy in life is making threats…threats needless to say HE HAS NEVER managed to carry out…from the kitchen knives thingy to the head of Hafez el Assad to … the list is long….

  if the last year was an attitude he considers as “moutarawia” then Lord knows how he will be talking this time…I guess news shows will become X rated

  let him adopt the attitude he feels is suitable…a fish out of the water fretting around before dying off…

  bass plz what is the source of this article?

• 26. nabil | November 27th, 2007 at 3:54 pm

  Brother Othello, u get nerves … and I smell a street boy behaviour on the blog … try to be polite … I Know it s hard to LFer …

• 27. othello | November 27th, 2007 at 4:02 pm

  nerves nabil???? why you dont have any in your body? no wonder…

  aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah you mean nervous…ttttt noo man…just pissed…how can I describe it?

  its like you are trying to tell a kid who is smoking crack how dangerous the stuff is yet he keeps smoking it inventing all sorts of excuses for his behavior…this is the feeling I get towards the likes of you.

  also the feeling one gets when someone attempts relentlessly to insult his intelligence by coming out with the most sordid stories and fallacies ever invented…

  you smell a street boy behavior on the blog??? you dont say….lah lah lah…must be the smell of tires burning thats still lingering in your clothes from january the 23rd…no matter how hard you wash, you will not get rid of it because it is like the eye of the Creator that Adam and Eve saw after the ate the forbidden fruit…

  now oust…when you learn to discuss politely and not invent lies and BS I will discuss with you otherwise do not waste my time

• 28. nabil | November 27th, 2007 at 4:09 pm

  Congratulation, the winner of “Street boy trophee” is : OTHELLO, everybody read #27 comment !!

• 29. elie | November 27th, 2007 at 5:28 pm

  Nabil..
  Othello knocked you out…..so …stop embarrassing yourself.
  Othello…great job…keep going man.

• 30. Delta | November 27th, 2007 at 5:51 pm

  NAbil u scum bag a hint : write first on word and then paste it here :p u speak about christian butcher called jumblat but then usay he is changing and taking our side or he is a christian butcher and ur against him bass how come ull be with him iza byege ma3ak ?

  ihave never seen any one lower than u (aunist i have respect for hizbullah and amal and fM …. but not to u and neither to the SSnp and by the way khiryet kalb wma2soume

• 31. Tarek | November 27th, 2007 at 6:25 pm

  Aoun, Aoun, Aoun, a million Death could not be enough a punishment for this guy…

• 32. Danny | November 27th, 2007 at 10:24 pm

  Nabil and rest of whinies,

  if you have a point to make please back it up with hard facts. If you keep up the unsubstantiated crap and bovive scatalogy you will be up to your neck in it. Please treat this forum as a means of learning something and exchanging civil views…AND PLEASE DO NOT PREACH CRAP!!!!!
  We’ve all grown up my dear!!

• 33. Ali1559 | November 27th, 2007 at 11:43 pm

  Nabil

  Good work on # 21 .

  I truly respect you now .

• 34. Australian | November 28th, 2007 at 1:19 am

  Nabil

  It is canberra not camberra where you lived
  so smart ass if you dont know the name of the city you lived in for 6 years you will know what is the best for christian.Go to sleep mate.

• 35. Australian | November 28th, 2007 at 1:25 am

  Nabil

  follow your number 8 reply

  we speak different but writing is the same mate english is english
  and you call othello street boy.very funny I cant stop laughing.

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