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• 1. Rima | September 11th, 2008 at 3:17 pm

  I respect the story of hussein a lot when I learned about it at school I felt so bad…But be careful don’t commit the utmost crimes in the name of Hussein as the crusaders did in the name of the cross thousands years ago…….

• 2. N10452 | September 11th, 2008 at 3:35 pm

  Sallemle 3ala Hussein ..
  This has nothing to do with the topic in hand here …

  once you learn to defend your country and not flee then let ur sons pay the prices of ur betrayal, ta3 7keene bil resistance ..

• 3. Rima | September 11th, 2008 at 3:36 pm

  Sorry for being of subject but I had to answer this issue:

  Sam ma tkoun mffakar innou yaani kil el neiss bil sharkieh kenno first class…the majority of christians were refugees living moussadara…
  My parents were not rich so during the war, we had to run to the malja2 a lot(you can say I was so scared that i am a first class runner to the maljaa)

  We suffered a lot and we were living ala ad halna…not everyone is taba2a moukhmaliyehhh…No need for me to become a terrorist just because my parents were poor…I studied hard and fought against all odds…I did not have wasta and lost a lot of opportunities… but I decided to keep using my brain till the end…Luckily, I was awarded a scholarship by a Western country…I left Lebanon and I kept studying until I earned a PhD…
  Anyway, as you were suffering in the south from zouloum el israelii we were suffering from zouloum el syrians and co…bass bi hal balad ma fi gheir el silah biyehkiiiiiii…halak HA am yitma2taou bil alam just because they had more weapons bass kil zalem youbla bi azlam….you will see

• 4. Patrick | September 11th, 2008 at 6:14 pm

  N10452, PLEASE post this so people can see:

  MEMRI TV just posted a clip from OTV of Lebanese sheikh Omar Bakri saying the problem with the U.K. is that it doesn’t apply sharia and calling the “mujahideen” there “blessed”!!!

  http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1848.htm

• 5. Fou2ad | September 11th, 2008 at 7:56 pm

  9/11 was an inside job

• 6. Mickel | September 11th, 2008 at 8:55 pm

  Fou2ad you’re retarded.

• 7. Rasheed | September 11th, 2008 at 9:13 pm

  #4: possibly irrelevant correction, but Omar Bakri is Syrian from Halab.

• 8. Mountain | September 11th, 2008 at 11:09 pm

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• 9. Patrick | September 12th, 2008 at 5:09 am

  hasanan omar bakri is syrian but he lives in lebanon, and not only do we allow him to live here, but FPM is airing him on OTV!?!?!

• 10. Patrick | September 12th, 2008 at 5:21 am

  i mean omar bakri openly supports al-qaeda and bin laden and calls on muslims to cut the throats of non-muslims and set up jihadist organizations in the U.K. to prepare for jihad even there…

  WHY IS HE ON OTV!?!?!

  we all knew OTV was dirty, but THIS!?!

• 11. Delta | September 12th, 2008 at 5:42 am

  fou2ad 9/11 was an inside job??????????

  man we really can use u here in america man come and teach the cia and federal bureau of investigation or maybe be the NyPD man seriously go do something else rather then trying to cover the terrorist i wanna let you know something terrorist messed with the united states the united states showed the whole word that it could fight by it self alone all kinda terrorists and the people of america showed a big integrity and love for their country and with all my hope and prayers i do hope that Candidate Mccain Wins the elections and we see a pursuit of terrorism down to the shores of lebanon to clean lebanon from all kinda iranian gangs.

  Long life USA

• 12. sam | September 12th, 2008 at 1:13 pm

  You can always pray for the devil Delta.. you can always pray…

  for whom of you here who can still think .. whoes eyes and hearts are not blinded by hattered… more then a million human died in the war against iraq..
  before the war christians in iraq were counted in millions .. they lived there before muslims did..
  the last statistics showed that there number has decreased to less then a 100 thousands now…it seems it was them who was cleaned

  you can always pray for the devil delta.. you can always pray

• 13. Patrick | September 12th, 2008 at 4:59 pm

  sam…

  first, when you say ‘more than a million,’ this is an exaggerated number coming from those who oppose the war. in reality, two-three hundred thousand (i.e., more than seven hundred thousand less than the number you cited) have died, and the overwhelming majority of these deaths have been by the so-called “resistance”–the scum of the earth. deaths inflicted by coalition forces (terrorists and civilian casualties combined) number less than 20,000. who is killing the rest? tab3an al-qaeda and other sunni jihadist groups, and shia extremists like muqtada as-sadr, hadi al-amiri, etc. these guys kill others by the hundreds and by the thousands, just because they are sunni, or just because they are shia, or just to cause chaos which provides them with an environment to consolidate their power. they strap bombs on mentally disabled women, or on drugged children, and send them into crowded market places and remotely detonate them, killing fellow muslims and fellow iraqis, and then they call it resistance against occupation…

  but in the long run, the war that is going on in iraq is necessary. and the sacrifice of the iraqi people, including iraqi christians of course, is extraordinary… because of the sacrifices they are making, iraq will be free, and the christians will not only be free to live, but free to preach and to convert.

  if you need signs of hope, just watch clips of iraqi MP iyad jamal al-din (shia):

  http://www.memritv.org/search/en/results/0/0/0/0/2/0/0/0/0.htm?k=jamal%20al-din&bAdvSearch=false

  or mithal al-alousi (sunni).

  or go to basra and see how it’s calm now, whereas one year ago it was a stronghold of the jihadists.

• 14. Patrick | September 12th, 2008 at 5:00 pm

  delta… amen, long live america.

• 15. Delta | September 12th, 2008 at 5:15 pm

  To Sam
  CC : N 10452 (u may delete my post but ill be deleted with it from the blog)

  Dear Sam

  I have been referring from answering your posts ,I was trying hard not to disrespect you , (even though you did disrespect me and my beliefs on several occasions) .

  In your fancy posting above and i am referring to # 12 you called me a devil worshipper .

  Little Sam learn not to judge people cause they different from you if you wear glasses ,not everyone has to wear some, try to accept people like they are without trying to make them look what they really are not, if u are an ugly person and I bet you are that does not mean that people around you are.

  I am a christian bghasb 3an da3set ra2btak wda3set ra2bet imak wbayak w3ayltak killa (fhimet wle k..b ).?

  I paid the price for it 20 years of my life just to be able to walk to a church and praise the Lord Jesus! you heard me?
  DEvil worshipers are people like you. People that build there beliefs on hypocrisy , and conspiracies , lies and devotion for evil.

  I have built my life on the basics of the bible as much as my human life and feeling would let me go i went i have my weaknesses and i am not the perfect christian thanks to evil people like you that make christians fall.

  What I really meant in fall is u drag us to wars that we don’t want and a perfect example my post back to you, I had to spit on u cause u did not give me an other choice .

  God never asked us as christians to be door mats for filthy people like you and we wont .

  good ?!?

  Love your general and go make love to him too .Thats not my damn business kid , I do not care BUT what is really a concern for me is u with how small and disgusting you are you still try to demonize and step on others just so u look good listen to me little Sam listen to that sentence and keep it in you head :

  I am A christian therefore GOD is with me and who can be against me .

  from that point on if I stayed posting on that blog I want you to be careful when choosing your words to address me I am not your father or mother or brother that you could disrespect no fachar 3a ra2btak and if you try too I promise you I wont leave you alone you will be my next project for the next couple of weeks

  I hope you took my words in a serious manner , I do wish you a good day , and i hope u will sit and think about every word you have been saying to me and see where your conscious stands on that matter , I would not be surprised if you had none and came back with the same confrontational speech disregarding its righteousness , although i would advice you to be careful.

  Just a Small note to help you out with your miserable english ( its to the devil not for the devil ) i would spend more time learining english rather than watching Manar tv or O Tv.

  Salem il massih Sam

• 16. Delta | September 12th, 2008 at 5:20 pm

  is really a concern to Me :p i caught it first

• 17. sam | September 12th, 2008 at 5:20 pm

  Patrick ..
  iraq have 115 Billion of oil barrols ( 5 times USA)
  only 80 excavated fields till now .. still plenty still under ground.
  the american international affair estimates the not discovered quantities of 220 Billions barrel.
  the total value for such an oil is 50 trillion dollars on todays market.
  the new iraqui oil treaty is written by the american legislation communitie. the federal governemt in Kurdistan signed this treaty to give all the rights to the american hunt oil company..
  i think this is a very good price for freedom..
  my friends crisitans had never had problems in preaching in iraq..the shiite had more . tarek aziz was cristian you know, but believe me there will be no more cristians to pray ..
  i ws with the american coming into iraq.. no one can hate sadam more then i do.. but dont talk to me about freedom and love…

  even though the number of 300 thousands you are talking about is more then enough for me .. if you calculate the number since the begining of the sunctions ths number will get much bigger..

  and by the way there is pleanty of reports mentioning the effect of the american inteligence in having this civil war in iraq to have three week federal entities looking for help from the states against each others..
  you know seperate to dominate..
  do you really think americans work for the sake of other people and comminity .. have you heard of the global worming?

  long live lebanon

• 18. Rima | September 12th, 2008 at 5:24 pm

  What a post Delta naffasstou la Uncle Sam?

  It is like el mattal N***…bi lattaftou…Sorry It is just a mattal…

  Welek ma tssem badanak sohtak bil dinneh

• 19. sam | September 12th, 2008 at 5:38 pm

  sorry N.. i respect you and your forum.. but i will reply

  Delta .. i have told you before , i see you are one of the big brains people here so dont let the blood flow out of your brain and return you a cave man.. unfortunately ,, you did not listen well..

  religion is not what you claim, it is what you do… when you go saying and i recall you saying:” and with all my hope and prayers i do hope that Candidate Mccain Wins the elections and we see a pursuit of terrorism down to the shores of lebanon to clean lebanon from all kinda iranian gangs” then it is not god you are praying it is the devil.

  I am one of these so called iranian gangs .. i want you and your friend the devil to come and try.. you think by being disrispectful and increasing the tone of your voice you will do what israel have failed to do with 10,000 plane attack, with 200,000 tank bomb ? with more then 2 million cluster bomb?

  i really want you to try … i promiss you we will be your worth nightmare .. i promiss you you will be burned in our land the same way you will be burned in hell..

• 20. Rima | September 12th, 2008 at 5:53 pm

  Sam

  “i really want you to try … i promiss you we will be your worth nightmare .. i promiss you you will be burned in our land the same way you will be burned in hell..”THAT IS THE REAL YOU…SO STOP PLAYING ABOU MELHEM

  Beleive me uncle Sam if not for your dirty stratgy of hiding behind kids and women to show the International Media the atrocities of Israel and if not for Siniora’s diplomacy you will be screaming bloody Hell …
  Secondly, stop titmarjal alayna bi silah el Irani coz eventually we will have all sorts of Silah In Lebanon and I will see what your Antariyeit will do…Iza bil Jabl haraou naffaskoun….bass meche el hal…Hassouna will say oops it is an accident or If I did not expect kidnapping and killing Israeli soldiers will lead to such a war…Y

• 21. sam | September 12th, 2008 at 5:55 pm

  rima.. i will respect you .. try to act like a lady

• 22. sam | September 12th, 2008 at 5:59 pm

  i told you a sentence you did not understand before. when you gave me the laythe example. ” rohamae binahoum achoudae 3ala al a3dae” which mean sweet and nice between each others but will take our enemy directly to hell..
  and .. simply you are not my enemy..

• 23. Rima | September 12th, 2008 at 7:12 pm

  Sam

  Enough is enough…for me you are terrorist…for me your whole community is just a mega machine of death……I am ashamed of being called Lebanese because of HA and all other terrorist organizations in Lebanon.

  I do not need to act like a lady because I am a lady….stop your sexist comments it just makes you look even more backward
  A terrorist is a torrist no matter how polite is his rhetoric.

• 24. Rima | September 12th, 2008 at 7:12 pm

  Sam

  Enough is enough…for me you are terrorist…for me your whole community is just a mega machine of death……I am ashamed of being called Lebanese because of HA and all other terrorist organizations in Lebanon.

  I do not need to act like a lady because I am a lady….stop your “gender” comments it just makes you look even more backward
  A terrorist is a torrist no matter how polite is his rhetoric.

• 25. Delta | September 12th, 2008 at 7:49 pm

  no Sam u dont respect her she uncovered u yes u do hide behind kids and women .

  and are you really part of the iranian gang ? wow holly you ,

  rima love your post seriously the guy dont even know what is he talking about and if you are part of the iranian gang i have two words for u if the US Marineslands in Lebanon
  Good Luck
  and try to work on ur english so u can convince them u are american

• 26. sam | September 12th, 2008 at 9:19 pm

  Rima…
  In the 60 and 70 when the \plo and Israeli where humiliating and killing my people where you thinking we are terrorists?
  In the 1978 when the israelies destroyed our family home in tyre while invading till litany did you think we are terrorists?
  In 1981 when my father was assassinated in a bomb in his car did you think we are terrorists?
  In the period between 78 and 82 when the Israeli planes where bombarding every day did you think we are terrorists?
  In the 1982 when the israelies invaded till beirut killing 10s of thousands did you think we are terrorists?
  Between 82 and 86 when more then 60 thousands men and kid where taken to Israeli jails did you think we are terrorists?
  In the 86 when we liberated a big part of the south Lebanon did you think we are terrorists?
  When the children where massacred in quana did you think we were terrorists?
  When awake in the middle of the night frozen in the snow in the top of the mountains staying guard facing Israeli bases in the occupied south, you were sleeping, where you dreaming we are terrorists?
  In 2000 when we liberated most of Lebanon did you think we are terrorists?
  It is a long list, but you know I dont care how you think,,
  My grand parents stood against jamal bacha al jazar , the turque and the French
  My parents stood against the \plo and the Israeli
  My generation have thrown Israel outside our country..
  Every tree in the south was fed with our blood..
  My grand children will be here to defend our family and land
  We do live and die in Lebanon .. and we are proud of that
  Believe me when my basic survival needs are in danger I don’t care if you are proud..
  best regards

• 27. sam | September 12th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

  Thank you for your sincere wishes delta :) but trust me there will be no time for talk ..
  you will be surprised .. just wait and see

• 28. Mickel | September 12th, 2008 at 9:43 pm

  Nice khoutab sam, gave me chillls

  but what you’re doing now isn’t resistance, invading beirut and jabal isn’t resistance.
  Your community was neglected in the past, and know you have control, and you’re not willing to let go.
  It’s that simple.

  Don’t give me that crap about defending the South, Hezbollah is way beyond that, and you know it.

• 29. Patrick | September 12th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

  sam,

  the first time i answered you calmly, as i had no reason to take the gloves off. i don’t know you from anywhere, and i gave you the benefit of the doubt that you could be dealt with reasonably. but when you show no regard either for civility or truth, i am forced to address you more frankly.

  first and foremost, let us expose the notion of an iraqi resistance. this is a common misperception that is based on ignorance and acceptance of whatever one is told, without consideration to what is actually going on ‘on the ground,’ so to speak. what resistance!? there is no resistance in iraq; only terrorism under the guise of patriotism. foreign terrorists (al-qaeda; hezbollah; the quds forces; etc.) or internal terrorists (remnants of the previous, corrupt regime; jaysh almehdi; the badr organization; etc.), but terrorists all the same. they come in, and they kill according to sect. shia just for being shia. sunni just for being sunni. christian just for being christian. zaidi just for being zaidi. even their own brothers, just for holding different views. is there any honor in that? by god, they kill more iraqis than “foreign occupiers” 100 to 1. they convert the back room at the mosque, which is supposed to be a holy and sacred place, into a torture chamber. they convert the local neighborhood into a prison, and there is no room for freedom under their foot. day and night, they kidnap, they torture, they slit throats, they torture some more, and then they dump the bodies. sometimes in mass graves, and, what’s worse, sometimes openly in the streets for the police and the volunteers to collect in the morning.

  and these are the people you are defending? by god, you are not defending iraq; you are not even defending a resistance. you are simply defending murderers and terrorists; the scum of the earth.

  i asked you before, and i will ask you again: what resistance? they remotely detonate mentally disabled women and drugged children, and they call it “resistance against the occupation.” understand? these are the real killers. these are the killers who are killing by the thousands. these are the ones responsible for the deaths of the hundreds of thousands you mentioned. and the number does not change who is responsible. whether three hundred thousand or a million and a half; the killers are the same. again, there is no iraqi resistance; only terrorists under the guise of patriotism. al-qaeda and its affiliates, jaysh al-mehdi, the badr organization, hezbollah, and others. i notice you never once responded to any of this. tell us, what resistance? name the resistance. al-qaeda? ex-baathists? jaysh al-mehdi? who? tell us how you can call the torture and murder of hundreds of thousands of fellow iraqis “resistance against foreign occupation.”

  second. although you refused to respond to the facts regarding the so-called “resistance,” which in reality is terrorism under the guise of patriotism, and chose instead to talk about oil… you are again on shaky ground. you insist on defending the oil of the people of iraq, but i ask you: when did the oil of iraq ever belong to the people of iraq? not only in iraq but all over the middle east, the resources which rightly belong to the people never make their way into the hands of the people. next–to leave no room to distort this first point–i ask you: how can america be “stealing” iraq’s oil if america is paying more than double per iraqi barrel of oil compared to what she was paying before the war? moreover, how can it be said that america is “stealing” iraq’s oil if all news agencies (english and arab both) reported not even two weeks ago that iraq now has $85 BILLION in surplus from profits… that means after all expenses over the last few years, iraq still has $85 BILLION. they went from being billions of dollars in debt to other nations (e.g., the khaliji nations) two years ago to having a surplus of $85 BILLION. and yet you insist that america is stealing from them!? america is spending trillions of dollars to reach stability in iraq, to build infrastructure… iraq is covering *very* few of the costs, all the while selling america oil… so america is covering the costs AND buying the oil. again, this is why iraq now has $85 billion in SURPLUS (e.g., AFTER all expenses). not in investments; not in expected income; no. IN SURPLUS.

  at this point, i have a message from two of my iraqi friends, one of whom is currently in iraq: fuck you. what do you know about iraq? (their words).

  now what will you say to that? that the americans don’t want stability? are you crazy? you want the evidence to trust america? i will give you the evidence: the religion of democracy is the dollar. understand? it is not beneficial to america to continue to spend trillions of dollars in iraq to cover the cost of the american military, training the iraqi army and the iraqi police, paying the awakening councils, building infrastructure… how does that benefit america? that is the surest reason to trust the american project–beyond all the empirical evidence (e.g., handing over diyala to iraqi control)–it is not in the interest of the american dollar to cause chaos in iraq. so now i want to hear from you: how can you say america is stealing iraqi oil if, in fact, they are paying more than double per barrel as compared to before the war, if america is the one paying for the security (the american military, the awakening councils, training and equipping the iraqi army and police…), and if iraq now has $85 BILLION in surplus? if american oil companies are the ones who received contracts from iraq or with the new iraqi-run companies, they are not stealing from iraq; they are taking the contracts that rightfully belong to them as opposed to european or saudi companies. the contracts they are receiving are in partnership with iraq and iraqi companies. in other words, iraq and iraqi companies are already receiving their shares, but just as with oil coming from saud arabia or iran or south america or anywhere else, there are always partners in the business of oil. so tell me, since the american military is doing all the work in terms of the international presence necessary to stabilize iraq, and since american taxpayers are shouldering all the costs of reconstruction in iraq, why should those contracts go to saudi arabian companies, or to european companies? and if you failed to grasp this last point i made, i revert to what i said previously: all news agencies (i.e., english and arab both) reported not even two weeks ago that iraq now has an $85 BILLION surplus. to hell with your conspiracy theories about america “stealing” iraqi oil.

  AGAIN, i reiterate the message from two of my iraqi friends: fuck you, what do you know about iraq.

  finally, you say “long live lebanon,” but from the nonsense that comes out of your mouth, it’s hard for me to believe you know what’s in lebanon’s best interest.

  take care.

• 30. Patrick | September 12th, 2008 at 10:16 pm

  sam,

  all you aounis sound alike. it’s always “just wait and see… you’ll see… you’re going to be so surprised…”

  man fuck that.

  believe us when we say we know exactly what hezbollah is planning, and how you guys are going to try to ride their backs all the way to baabda.

  but believe us again when we tell you: when it happens, we are going to fuck hezbollah UP. and if you are in the way, god help you, because you’re going to need it.

  naturally, you are free to laugh at that all you want. but when the shit falls, you’re going to feel it bigtime.

  (of course, it’s my suspicion that when it does, aoun is just going to turn right back around say it was his plan all along to push hezbollah to do something so fucking idiotic in order to bring them down, and try to take credit for their destruction… whatever…)

• 31. Maximus | September 13th, 2008 at 2:50 am

  Sam
  Reality is that Israel give you a false victory in 2005, as it gave you a false victory in 2000 just to give an illusion of glory so that you became arrogant. And because you now very well that your victory ois an illusion, you will not turn your arrogance toward Israel but towards other Lebanese by claiming a special status for yourself (armes among desarmed), blocking any chance for Lebanon to emerge as a prosperous multicultural democracy.
  Tawashtna bi ossit we were mustahdafin and mustad’afin for justifying the maintain of your proper military organization. Ya sam, shiya have never been massacred by other lebanese during the wars. Christian do: they were massacred by lebanese muslims and by the syro-palestinians. And they forgive them and give up their military organization in order to make possible the edification of a unified state. You should do the same.

  I know you hate the sunnis who were making money during the syrian occupation while Iran and Syria were ginving you the “resistance” role and oppressing the christians. You don’t understand why the sunnis today are claiming power and trying to marginalize you and think that maintaining your arms can garantee your rights. You are ready to divide lebanon to maintain your power just to not accept a sunni dominance in a unified lebanon. But the sunni think that with your arms you were and still racket them and since the assassination oh Hariri they will never accept anymore to have the financial and administrative role while you dominate them with arms ans security services. As for the christians, they will never accept the monopoly of neither sunni or shiya.

  I assure you there will be no sunni, shiyi or christian monopoly of power in a democratic and multicultural lebanon. We should have learned that only a democratic federal lebanon will permit all of us to live in peace while preserving our identities which are the essence of lebanon. Maintaining your arms will kill the unified lebanon.

• 32. Delta | September 13th, 2008 at 6:33 am

  To Sam

  I am deeply sorry to hear about ur house and ur father if that is real allah yirhamo wdi3an baytak bass ya man you keep talking about isrealis and kanna and what they did to u ok i am with you u were not a terrorist cause hizbulla was not till 81 or 82 than hizbullah came and start doing the sam shit isreal was doing killing civilians and launching rockets on christian villages meche il hall meto ahlna mich michkle ma nihna sahayne sah ?

  then from 1990 till 2005 why you have not tried to kick the syrians out all ur focus was on the isrealis knowing that syrians killed lot of ur people

  terrorist are people that launches attack on civilians and hide behind civilians and this is why you are called a terrorist right now cause u are killing civilians .

• 33. sam | September 13th, 2008 at 11:10 am

  Dear Delta
  Thank you for your warm thoughts; I never doubted that you are a good person even when you became angry ;). You know I believe the main issue behind the lack of trust between the two parties is that they don’t know each others… there is lot of wrong concepts. Let me tell you few facts, and if you are ever in a visit to Lebanon I will take you personally to the south and you will see these facts for true … ( don’t worry , we are very welcoming with great hospitalities among friends)

  During the Lebanese civil war , most of the chrisitian villages between Beirut and saida ( area dominated by ishtiraki ) were completely destroyed and people either killed or run away..and till now lot of people did not come back

  In the area so called eastern of saida, ( which were dominated by sunni milichias) from saida to jizzine ,most of the Christian villages were completely destroyed with people either killed or run away.

  the area on south of saida ; starting from Magdousha ,( were there is a very lovely church and huge monument for Marry), was dominated by the so called shia militias.. you can go there and see if any of the houses or people was attacked…

  Would you believe if I tell you that the shias were not allowed to buy lands from Christians so that the Christians will not sell their lands and run away ( moussa al sader shool). You can go to cities like tyre and nabatieh and see how the neighborhoods are interconnected and how strong is the relationship.

  During the Israeli occupation of a part of the south ; Lahed militia contained from all religions.. the resistance never attacked a village because of its religion. However, The Israeli were marketing the idea that if ever the HA will come in they will massacre everybody like the PLO used to do.

  In 2000 when the Israeli run away, people were in terror of what will HA do to them. Few of them run to Israel others couldn’t and waited for their destiny. You can check the human rights reports , or have a visit in the area, there was not a single attack on these people. You will even see the strength of the relation of people in these villages like rumaish with HA.

  Another fact, if you ever go to the south , and I really hope you will , you will see that even in the hardest days of the 2006 war, the resistance never used the houses in these villages as a base to attack Israel. Yes they were fighting in the fields and in the shias villages, because these are their homes and they were defending it. if you ever look for the list of the bombarded villages and the list of the places were strong fights happened you will understand what I mean.

  I will tell you one thing my friend, I was with these people since a long time. In the end of the 80s 80 % of the south population hated them. But with time, these people understood how different they are from other parties. Now 95% of the people in the south adore them. And this is not another Arabic statistics. They are the people of the south, they are the farmers, the workers, the people living there… the women are their wives and daughters, the children are there children.. and as long as there is the racist enemy threatening them every day.. they will not put down their arms.. you know why.. simply because the people will not let them do that…

  Best regards

• 34. sam | September 13th, 2008 at 11:17 am

  maximus my friend, you want to believe what you want to believe what you want me to say.. you will not believe me ..
  just few words for the record…
  do you know that all the first rank israeli politicians and military officers have designated after the 2006 war( except olmart of course for several reasons ) .?
  i advice you to read the vinograd report related to the 2006 war…

• 35. Rima | September 13th, 2008 at 2:21 pm

  Patrick

  I support your opinion 100%…It seems only Americans have the courage to fight evil in this World..If not for Americans, Australians will be speaking Japanese and Europeans German…
  Thank God “they” cannot twist History as they are doing with recent issues.

  I don’t know how the world will be without America…the land of freedom …
  May God bless America

• 36. Rima | September 13th, 2008 at 3:12 pm

  Dear Sam,

  Don’t take anything personally on this blog at least from my part. I am addressing your mind and I am not judging your character at all. I don’t know you and I will never know who you are…I am just calling a spade a spade …that is my style…The truth is so clear to me that I get so upset when I read your logic and line of argumentation….It is obvious, that you are a victim of war like many of us but as you are asking people on this blog to use their mind plz do likewise and don’t let your emotions get in the way…..HA’s politics will lead to mass suicide…not only to our beloved shiaas who follow HA but to all Lebanese people who do not approve such politics….it is unfair and it is a matter of life or death …that is why I can’t be so soft and diplomatic in voicing my opinion…I wish every shiaa child and any child in Lebanon what I wish to my 3 year old daughter…I can’t see in what way HA’s politics is good for future generations….just I can’t see….As theresina said in previous posts…children are indoctrinated and trained in military camps….Is that really good for your grand children???????

• 37. Delta | September 13th, 2008 at 4:13 pm

  Patrick i Loved ur post # 29 so true

• 38. Delta | September 13th, 2008 at 4:22 pm

  Dear Sam

  I think ur post # 33 is very moderate thre is thinks u might believe they are true i do not but else than that i finally appreciate your honesty and again i think its ur first constructive post and not offencve and if u keep this strategy of respecting us and still try to make ypur points u are more than welcome to be here and we will have to answer u in a respectful manner .

  i wish u a good day

• 39. sam | September 13th, 2008 at 6:45 pm

  Dear rima
  do you know what was my reacation the first time i went to euro disney several years ago? i started crying as i compred the life of those children with the life we had in lebanon as children .. yes we were victims, …two lebanese generations were victims of war.. that is why i keep telling you you are not my ennemy we need to learn to live in peace…

  we both want to live in peace, we all want to see our children grow as normal children do .. that we both agree..

  believe me the shia comminitie dont want to live the way they live in iran , the same way lot of the sunnies dont want to live the way they live in saudi .. do u think Haifa want to live the way in iran ( i know i will have comment on that :)) but you should understand each others…

  trust me we are not as different as you think.. i have been in Frères Maristes school, i am an AUB graduate, i am a good business man, my car is a porsche.. i do love and enjoy life the way you do..i have first cousins who are married from cristians , sunnies and druze.. believe me we are not different.

  but you should understand, for the shia , HA came at a time when they were in the button of the hole. shia see that HA liberated their country and give them back there dignity and self respect. for once in our history israel have to think a lot beofre attacking us..( they never stopped thretening us ).. for these people it is so simple, they do trust nassrallah. ..

  However, the ones they dont trust are the other lebanese leaders.. they are the same leaders who been lying to us for the last 30 years and who have destroyed us.

  i know we have diferences.. but i do believe that we have much more in cummon

  best regards

• 40. Maximus | September 13th, 2008 at 8:38 pm

  Sam
  Yes they resignated to ptoteste of the abnormal strategu used during th ebattle: the massive air attack have not been followed by a massive ground attack but by small incursion on the level of batallion and even company who were naturally have been encercled and annihilated. Why sending company and even batallion without support? To give HA victories. You read what you want to read. Military is always a political tool. In 2006, israeli political objective was to reinforce HA inside Lebanon and the military tool was used for that. Next time, the oolitical objective will may be to annihilate HA, and the miitary will follow: massive air attack will be followed by massive ground attack, as in 1982. Do Lebanon realy nead that? Give up your arms to the democratic elected government: one elected government and one army.

• 41. sam | September 13th, 2008 at 8:48 pm

  do you really believe what you are saying maximus? who wanted to give HA victory ? the minister of difence or the prime minister? or is it the one who are planning to go in because they wanted to give HA more time to prepare himself as he wasnt ready two years ago ?or was it the israeli strategy based on the american strategy when they invaded iraq , distroy using air force and everybody will run away? or it was the 40,000 israeli troupe that were not ready? habibi you believe what you want to believe.. you live the way you want to live .. it was said by the israeli once arabs dont read and if they ever read they dont want to understand

• 42. Maximus | September 13th, 2008 at 11:05 pm

  sam
  a solider never resignate when convinced that he did what could have been done. He resignates when he considers that he had been manipulated, used as a toll or not given the possibility to use all his capacity. He resignates when he considers that the militay defeat was a political responsability not a military one. The americans invaded irak after massive airstrikes. Israeli did not invade lebanon after masivly airstriking it. Why? No sufficient infantry? Are you serious? Sam, beware what israeli said on arabs. They said you do not read enough. Then you think that by reading what they gave you to read (vinograd) you think that you get the truth? Poor arabs. Your mythomania is pathetic. And all the lebanese are paying for your delirium…

• 43. sam | September 14th, 2008 at 12:06 am

  Maximus .. you are arguing for the sake of argument..

  in a training course for the israeli airforce the american trainer asked the commendor in charge how much do they help each others in the exams. the answer was nul. being in such a hostile environment we cannot afford but uncompetent people…

  habibi, the first rank of officiers resignated one after the other because .. they proved to be uncompetent.. they were not able to deliver…Barak is shooting every day in israel : we lost the war because our strategy was bad, because our officiers were unexpirienced..

  the vinograd community was held because israeli respect themselves.. they cannot survive if they dont learn from their mistakes; and yes lot of secret pages were not published..

  the strategy they were using during the war proved to be a failure… there inteligence proved to be a big failure.. they did not expect an underground city build by HA…they were not prepared..
  they expected HA to collapse in few days like all the other arabs country and they did not prepare themselves for a real war… for fighters who dont have an option but to make the israeli dyi for each metter they take

  habibi israel survival is based on one strong pilar… a strong fact in their enemies mind that they cannot stand against them .. that the israeli army can distroy them in hours… this is what keeps israel alive.. .. can you imagine what will happen if the arabs do start beliving in themselves? that what made the second intifada start in 2000 after israeli went out of lebanon..

  That what made israeli plans for the next war against lebanon after their withdrawel in 2000 and that what is making them plan for their next war .. to get back this image.. and believe me the second they believe they have the power to go in they will do..
  sorry guys,.. i know this is a bad news for you.. but it is even worst for me.. that is why i cannot accept to put down our arm beform a settlment is made with israel…

  sorry , but yes they are planning their next war.. just read their online news papers,,, go to websites like haaretz u will see ..

  maximus, the tactics used by HA in the last war are being tought already in military acadimies in europe and the states.. wake up..

  ya3ni i may understand the argument that we did not win because the price was very hight as it was used a lot in lebanon..

  but you sitting behind your computer arguing that the israeli want to spread an idea among the arab world that it can be defeated? for god sake maximus .. give me a brake man..what are you talking about?

  you know am a cool guy but this argument is one of the very few here that made me angry…

  best regard

• 44. Michele | September 14th, 2008 at 8:24 am

  I’m still not buying Sam’s phony “peace & luv” attitude; I mean z minute Delta scratched him, Sam showed his true colors…

  Sam i have family in z south, my aunt is married to a shiite n my cousins told me how z HA were hiding behind their houses while shooting on the Israelis. If u think this is heroic, this is the resistence then i rest my case…

• 45. sam | September 14th, 2008 at 11:09 am

  you think am selling you anything to buy michele ? give me a brake… you want to keep your heart full with hattered it is your problem..
  i dont feel any of the people here to be my enemy unless he insist to be… i feel we cannot build a country unless we have a positive attitide toward each other… however, if any body want to be our enemy .. he will not be happy .. because we are not so lovable toward our ennemies am not hiding ..

  regarding the houses issue.. the resistance did not enter any christian village to shoot from.. yes in the shia villages they fought the israeli irami from house to house.. i dont deny that.. they dont deny that..that is how they kicked the israeli from bint jubeil, and 3ayta, and others.. and yes they were very very heroic indead

• 46. Michele | September 14th, 2008 at 12:15 pm

  Ya sam u r soooo full of it!!!!

  So in other words, whoever is against HA politics, u threat him??!!! this is definitely a positive loving strategy u’ve got there!!!!

  I did mention above that my cousins are shiite n as for HA didn’t enter the christians villages this is really a BS, unless u consider Rmeish not a christian village which btw, i happen to have friends from there n they told me how u guys were hidding between their houses…

  L3aaab ghayra ya Sammy boy!

  Asking n wishing to eliminate a terrorist organisation in Lebanon is a legitimite right to any Lebanese who wants to live in a peaceful country.

  I know ur type of people ya Sam, this is why I haven’t been fooled by u…

  U can threat me as much as u want, u really don’t scare me…

• 47. sam | September 14th, 2008 at 12:40 pm

  Michele …your hatter is blinding your heart.. you are not properly reading… nor able to understand…

  try to calm down your self, try to open your heart.. remove the hatter for a second.. and then reread what i have wrote…

  i was not threatening you.. you were saying in your previous writting that when i was scratched by delta i showed my real face.. if you go back to delta writting you will see the language he used and the way he threatened me… that is why i said you cant expect me to show love in return if someone decided to be my enemy…

  and please ask your so called friends from rmeish … if real fights happened their as they are claiming why there is no war mark on the wall of the lovely houses of this beautiful village… just make a small comparison with 3ayta or bint jbeil and you will underastand what i mean… you people just want to believe what meet your political confort zone. you dont care about reality…

  and you want an advice.. dont prejudge or steriotype people.. this is a way of racism…

  best regards

• 48. Michele | September 14th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

  Sam, forgive me if I can’t help not loving a terrorist organization, but who can really blame me…

  Maybe if u watch other channels that Manar TV, u would know what happened in Rmeish…

  Besides, i really don’t need u to patronize me, i know where u stand n where i stand…

• 49. sam | September 14th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

  Michel…you are labeling , prejudging, stereotyping, blocking your mind.. just arguing for the sake of argument .. you dont want to listen , you dont try to understand, you dont want to seak reality.. you are starting your argument with a base am right and everybody is wrong.. and finally you are telling me you know where you stand..
  you know .. am very proud the israelies sees me as a therorist.. i hope they will always do…
  for you… i feel pity…
  allah bi 3een…

• 50. Michele | September 14th, 2008 at 1:54 pm

  Sam, bla bla bla bla blabla n bla!!!!

  Flash news cowboy, it’s not only the israelis who see u as therrorist but the whole world!!!

  So spare me ur pity, as i need no pity from the babies killers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

• 51. sam | September 14th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

  عن الامام علي عليه افضل السلام : ما ناقشت جاهلا الا و غلبني

• 52. Rima | September 14th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

  People like Sam think they can have it both ways. They Live a western lifestyle, send their kids to Western or Christian schools send them overseas for higher education and at the same time support a terrorist organisation and a theocratic regime…I just cannot get it…do these people have any clue about democracy and human rights?the rule of law…

  You know it is ok For me if HA want to fight Israel forever and ever…..but it is unfair to drag the whole country with them….HA’s politics might be compatible with the interets of the majority of Shiaas but it definitely clash with ours…so how can we be friends I don’t know?

• 53. Maximus | September 14th, 2008 at 2:47 pm

  Sam
  I’m glad that my argument “is one of the very few here that made me (you) angry…”. That means it has sense. Sam: the long strategy for Israel is to divide his ennemies. The only way to diversify the power of the arab sunni majority is to create them a ennemy inside by fortifying Iran and presenting it as a threat. Fortifying HA is a part of this global strategy since 2000. Do you realy think that the israeli didn’t have any intelligence about the underground fortifications in the SOuth? Really?
  Israel know that Iran want to impose its leadership on islam but when it will get this leadership it will find a compromise with Israel. But as a minority (shiya), Iran need to be zealous about combating israel in order to get telgitimacy and discredit the sunnis majority. And Israel is giving Iran and HA this legitimacy by “false victories”; Same for HA, he wants to impose his leadership in Lebanon and need legitimacy to get it. will compromise with Israel when he will get it. Notice that the sunni shiya rivality begin to publicly appeared in Lebanon since 2006, since the factice “victory” of HA that Israel offered him. Today, this rivality is taking most of HA and Sunnis radicals lebanese energy. Since 2001, USA is applying a clear startegy: transfering war in the islam world (irak and afghanistan) and making the islamists fight themselves instead of the amricains perpetuating war to maintainislamists occupied. USA and Israel created the rivality betwen shiya and sunnis to perpetuate this war. Once the two will plunge in the fitna, it will occupy them for decades and they will forget america. Your arrogance about HA and his capacity to win over Israel is just a way to make sunni jaleaous and reject you. You are in the trap. Israeli strategy is working. Playing the role of the weak is maybe a strategy. Think about it.

• 54. sam | September 14th, 2008 at 2:58 pm

  rima .. …if you really want to understand … you need to try…

  you are seeing me this way and judging me this way because you have certain inputs in your head.. of course having such inputs in your head you will not understand my logic and you will have all this negative feelings and emotions toward me…i will do the same if i was you..

  All what am trying to say here is that lot of the inputs you have in your head, which have led you to such a normal conclusion… are not accurate…lot of them are made by propaganda to divide the country…

  think about it this way…
  kind regards

• 55. sam | September 14th, 2008 at 3:13 pm

  maximus .. it made me angry because i couldnt follow the base of the logic..

  you know i think it is healthy not to agree on everything…
  it doesnt make me angry to know i was wrong.. i am on this web site to learn new things…

  i do agree with 80 % of what you are saying in your last comments.. there are few things i need you to reconsider though…
  the sunnies consider the shias to be the Jews of the nation.. lot of hatter do exist now against the shia because they think they are the reason why baghdad was fallen .. shia traitors’.. ( please reconsider the first speech of sadam after fall of baghdad when he renamed the shia wazir who they consider reason for the first fallen of baghdad by Mongols)

  the point in your logic that i dont agree u with , is that the sunnies are jealous of HA and that is why israel gave them this fake victory.. that may be true in lebanon with our great country cuklture.. however, HA and nassrallah take there popularity among the arab world and sunnies from the fact that they do fight israel.. and all the statistics till now show that nassrallah is the most beloved among arabs ( i di not invent that ) .. so i do disagree with you that israel want nassrallah to be so popular especially that he is on top of there wanted to kill list..

  i do respect a lot your reasoning maximus i really do…

  best regards

• 56. Rima | September 14th, 2008 at 3:16 pm

  Sam
  I am not really prejudging you and I have nothing against the shiaa community per say…(However I have a lot against the Syrian regime…)

  I am an outsider to a certain extent and I listen and read both sides…the 8th March logic is not convincing and does not suit my political ideals…On the other hand,the other side makes more sense for the time being albeit their lack of wisdom, weakness and cowerdness…

• 57. dfhdt | September 21st, 2008 at 5:30 am

  oo, ah, WARRIORS OF THE HEZBOLLAH!
  oo, ah, DESTROY IS RA EL!

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