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• 1. Elie.F. | November 16th, 2008 at 3:17 pm

  inno ya N, leish mistaghrib w 3emlo la Putin inno he is very strong, shoo nseet 3aoun when he told Amin Gemayel inta w yalli bi shidd 3am shaddak ma btoossal la ta7t zonnari, zekir when he said about the people who r against him ” 7ayawenet”,
  3aoun taba3na a2wa bi kteer min Putin, shoo jeb Putin la 3aoun.?

• 2. Elie.F. | November 16th, 2008 at 4:01 pm

  N,
  why my comment is awaiting moderation, i did not speak something wrong, 3AOUN did.

• 3. LF Forever | November 16th, 2008 at 6:40 pm

  because N he is so democratic! he decide when you can talk and when you can’t.

  This is his website so he is the one who decide. right?

• 4. N10452 | November 16th, 2008 at 7:16 pm

  Le when wasnt i democratic with any of u guys ???

  Chou sayir ma3ak ya LF Forever

• 5. LF Forever | November 17th, 2008 at 11:30 pm

  Bheb Emzah ma3k N…
  Bleive me I love your way and I like your blog.

  Mannak sheyefne dayman?

  Allah ywafik ya cheick

• 6. ja3far | November 18th, 2008 at 12:15 pm

  Few days ago, during a small discussion here, while I said sanioura chahadna, A friend of mines told me al sanioura tejj rassi while a mad dog started barking in a crazy way thinking he will make a difference ( like all mad dog do ;;)) .

  As I am in a good mood today I will present some small statistics…

  In Lebanon, there is around 75 billion dollars as savings in our local banks
  around 45% of these savings are put in less than 0.8% of the total accounts
  the majority of this amount is owned by less than 500 family in Lebanon. i.e. the fortune is owned by less than 0.05% of the Lebanese families.

  The main part of this amount came from accumulation and payments for the Lebanese general debt.
  i.e. between 1993 and 2008, 4 million Lebanese were obliged to pay more than 38 billion dollars to the account of around 2500 politically lucky person, bank or organization
  i.e since 1993, each one of us payed around 9500 $ as an average to those lucky people.. ( sanioura and co)

  in 2009 , we , the lucky lebanese from both 8 and 14 march will be obliged to pay around 4182 billion dollar to those people . the average due from taxes will be 1691 $, of this amount 1050 will go to the packet of those tijen rassna from each one of us.. just to stay tijeen rasna ( it remind me of kassidat sayaf 3arabi la nizar kabani.. try to read it . nezar.almarsaa.net/?p=14)

  ya3ni , if it was up to me and to lot of the barbarian and terrorist HA supporters, we would have hanged sanioura from his balls on the door of al saraye on 7 May… allah yessamhak ya sayed..

  salam

• 7. Fuziyad | November 18th, 2008 at 1:50 pm

  Ja3far, am not going to go into the full numbers now but in all honesty do you really think Sanioura is the one to blaim? or let’s say the one to blaim the most? agreed he was minister of finance but do you really believe he was that powerful. Even if we consider that the syrians or the istiz or the murrs or all the rest of the political establishment had no power and didn’t steel a dime then the responsible must be hariri the father, the one you like and respect(as u said in one of yr posts yesterday), not sanioura mou heik???or is ok for hariri father to steel as long as he says the mukawama is nice but once his camp starts saying the opposite then they become sera2in??

  Ja3far you know well sanioura is not the responsible of lebanon bankruptcy, he is only responsible of having been a respectable politician who stood against syria when that was the wish of the lebanese people. What drives yr camp even more crazy about sanioura is the fact that you can’t say he’s a warlord, a mot3asseb a pro israeli ect…all these arguments that you like using don’t fit on sanioura, fa 3meltou sera2…I know the sanioura family very well, they are wealthy it’s true but nothing extravagant, sanioura’s salary was 1 million$ a year in bank med and his wife is from the bsat wealthy family and nothing at all indicates that they have more wealth that the tracable ones…you know ,when you are very very rich (in case sanioura stole billions as you say) you can’t really hide it…money has to go somewhere…

  Meanwhile el istiz nabih berry is much more mafdou7… el mahroum has huge wealth and owns various companies all over the world…men wen? god knows…just as an example, don’t know if you got echoes from his daughter wedding this summer but that was quite a show… hundreds and hundreds of invitees and a lot of fakhfakha (just to give you an example each invitee received an ipod with the music of the wedding recorded on) min ayna laka haza ya istizzzzzz??? Sanioura’s son got married not long time ago too and it was nothing similar…halla2 you can answer me sanioura bakhil and berri karim but you won’t be convinced by yr arguments, and that’s what matters to me

  Then… halla2 enta btefham iktissad, what do you think is the MAIN reason of lebanon’s weak economy, is it corruption or political instability?? both akid but which most?? it’s political instability and you know it ya moujtama3 moukawem ento!!! can’t be moukawimin and wealthy!! wen saret hay?

  Let me know, we can have some fun here…

• 8. ja3far | November 18th, 2008 at 3:44 pm

  fuziad… you are the one who told me once , dont run from the accusation of someone to blame the other

  berri wasnt the one responsible for the economical plan since 1990..yes, he took his share and of course he is among the 0.05 % who have al the wealth of lebanon…u can see what was my point of view of him before; i have never said that he was a saint,, , and most important i never said or claimed that berri is tejj rassak ..

  ya sahbi the main reason behind the huge debts and for what we are paying now is the policy “that the government used to do to borrow money , i dont remember the exact figure we needed to rebuild lebanon …was it 7 or 8 billions, including kil al tizbittat…

  bass you should know that what pushed us really down was the very high percentages given on sanadat al ghazini… walawe ;)..
  how did bank mediterrani made lot of his money for example?

  and i never said rafiq was a saint neither.. i said before, that before he died he announced that his wealth was around 4 billions, then after he died we discovered that it was around 18… and of course his generous heritance didnt pay the around 3 billions due on them as a heritage tax…

  the difference between me and u is i see black black and white white… u don’t..

  one final thing… look through this link
  bladi-dz.com/articles/1690/1/Zeevi–Perte-de-trois-ans-des-investigations-des-services-des-renseignements-a-Beyrouth-en-une-seule-nuit/Page1.html

  i tried to find u the report in a language u understand .. as the last time i mentioned it you laughed… i know it is not in almustaqbal or l orient de jour… and i really doubt that u believe anything other then your trusted resources bass 3assa wa li3ala

  salam

• 9. ja3far | November 18th, 2008 at 3:50 pm

  this is a summary.. the arabic translation contain more info.

• 10. Fuziyad | November 18th, 2008 at 5:03 pm

  Tks for the article Ja3far, it’s even more funny in french…may be there is more details in arabic but of what I read it only says that israel doesn’t like HA and would have liked to have allies in lebanon it can rely on…it also says that it didn’t find any “real” allies…well that prooves that you only attacked civilians but did we need an article to proove that, we saw the images with masked individuls shooting RPG’s on civilians…

  Concerning the corruption of sanioura, you got my point, nor sanioura is high in the ranking of corruption in lebanon nor corruption is the bulk of lebanese economic probs but you knew it allready…

  anyway I still dunno why the “sanioura tejj rassak” shocked you sooo much…

• 11. ja3far | November 18th, 2008 at 7:29 pm

  fuziad… the article talk about the training of mustaqbal people in jordan and the inteligences efforts in beirut that ended with ha getting in… i will give you the link tomorrow when am in my office, and highlight you the sentences as your arabic is weak.. (same as my dictation :))

  actually, while i felt pity for the barking of fad14 ,as he is still a mad dog and not able to develop, your phrase annoyed me as i thought we bypassed al tifnees wa al mozayadeet miltel li wleed lizghar..

  salam

• 12. Fuziyad | November 18th, 2008 at 9:29 pm

  The article is verrrrry evasive about the training in jordan and is jordan israel?? I think this in itself how much this article is weak…w ba3den where were all these people on 7 may?? enno you used to say they have militias they train bla bla but then you got in beirut w ma7ada aratkon walla kaf…enno I know you are brave divine and have beaten up the best army in the world 6 times bass wallaw?? nothing prepared by the mossad??enno a militia can’t even hold its stronghold for a night?? 100 trained people prepared can no doubt at least ambush a few hizzies or amal here and there…enno once again, you guys are divine but are za3ran amal divine?? kawmiyé?? how come these guys deployed themsleves and stayed in the streets for days with their lachin and their arguilés?? did they look as if they were fearing someone?? wallaw those evil mossad/ tabour khamess/ LF who sniped in chiyah couldn’t have sniped a few kawmé?? they didn’t feel concerned…noone can invade hostile areas of a town in one night and stay there calmly if there is anyone on the field to resist them, NOONE, ma ken fi 7adan you2af bi woujkon and that is probably the problem…you can tell me they all escaped, all went back to israel or whatever you want but you won’t convince me as you are probably not convinced youzself. Law el chabeb el senné taba3 beirut had weapons and any kind of organization things wouldn’t have happened the way they did so I think yr article has no value…

  Ba3den they talk about sanioura calling condi to ask for help, of course he did and he can be proud of it, walid jumblatt also called david welch who didn’t even take the line(the thursday 8 may ba3d ma hassan hallal el kasef 3a beirut). Why??? because a deal had been done between US/Israel and your masters in teheran and damascus strangely enough the day after moukatad el sadr dropped his weapons and syria and israel discussions made progress. You had an american greenlight to rape beirut otherwise you wouldn’t have tried ya brave freedom fighters ento…halla2 of course if cutting deals with israel serve mother syria than it’s hala mou heik??

  Then abt Dawlet el raiss, don’t make a fuss about the tejj rassak thing, as you know I’ve been critical of most m14 leaders(still waiting for yr answer on the berri/hassan/aoun to see if you can as honest as me on jumblatt/saad/geagea)here and in my post abt sanioura I also showed myslef as critical.

  What pissed me off is yr ridiculous sentence about sanioura making you she7adeen, hearing this from a taxi driver makes me laugh but when it comes from someone who seem to follow politics and not to be an idiot I call it bad faith….but I didn’t see tejj rassak as such a big expression to me it meant “sanioura is a good men” but may be my weak arabic again…

• 13. Ali | November 19th, 2008 at 12:34 am

  Fuziyad!!
  do u live in lebanon?! cause i have noticed that u always use the word “civilians” when refering to may 7 clashes!!!
  Hizbullah didnt fight civilians!!!
  aslan its against its principles!!!
  بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
  قاتلوا في سبيل الله الذين يقاتلونكم ولا تعتدوا ان الله لا يحب المعتدين
  صدق الله العظيم
  hizbullah only fought armed men !! some were trained in Jordan and others in lebanon!! at least three thousand members were expected to fight for Future movement!! but mauny got scared.. they either ran away or laid down their weapons!!!
  As for PSP, they have used heavy machine guns(12.7 mm,14.5 mm, 23mm),B9, Mortars,107mm rocket launcher!!!! are these what u call civilians?!!! should they use F35 to be described as militants?!!

• 14. Ali | November 19th, 2008 at 12:47 am

  in ur comment#10 u said,
  ” nor sanioura is high in the ranking of corruption in lebanon nor corruption is the bulk of lebanese economic probs ”
  now i kno that u dont live in lebanon!!
  7abeebe over the past years saniora was the minister of “el maleyye” .. any decision should have his signature!!! that makes him part in every single corruption !!
  moreover, more than 40 billion dollars debt is no doubt the bulk of our economical problem .and the debt is due to Hariri and Saniora genius economical plans along with the corruption in most of the ministries and governmental agencies!!

• 15. Fuziyad | November 19th, 2008 at 1:10 am

  Ali plse read my posts, I answered your remarks before they came…If you have answers or remarks on what I wrote you are more than welcome but am not gonna start all again(may be you missed #7)

  But I liked the hizb doesn’t fight its against its principles!!!that was funny…3000 men from FM wasn’t bad either but god’s militia having principles is unbeatable

• 16. ja3far | November 19th, 2008 at 10:05 am

  Fuziad… I have given u my opinion as promised since last week. It is under kizeb bi kizeb…

  the link to the complete interview in Arabic is: empressoffice.com/ar/index.php?news=312 … the man talk openly about Arabic and western intelligence efforts in Beirut for the last three years that ended in one night.. baynetna if there is moussad or CIA or any other working in Beirut to make a civil war,I don’t think they will interfere in such a fight to get destroyed but they will hide or run away .

  moreover, lot of sources talked about training in Jordan, including jumblat, but u people just don’t want to believe it .

  we have discussed before several times what was happening in the north.. u were telling me it was done by the Syrian.. jumblat himself said that we shouldn’t take revenge of what happened in Beirut in the north.. when bachar threatened sulaiman that he will not leave the alawiye alone and moved ten thousand special forces to the borders, harriri run to Tripoli and stopped his people and consequently the fight…

  time after time you wrote about burning tv stations while future tv moved from al raouche building years ago… am not sure if you really don’t know or what?
  now you talk about getting into Beirut without darpet kafe… khaye , fierce fights happened in Beirut. The house of berry was attacked the first night by gun men from several directions and during the fights one of his guard died and several got injured… heavy fights happened in places like raouche and hamra … but be aware that the real strong hold of mustakbal in tareek al jdidi wasn’t entered and that saved a lot…

  bass let me tell you little history. In 1985, when al morabitoun were in there peak power, amal destroyed them from all Beirut including tareek al jdidi in few hours .. those people don’t have the will to fight, do you see any bayerti in the Lebanese army?

  Khaye the will is the real base for fighting.. look what happened in 1967, the Israeli forces were enjoying an even easier ride around the arab world then the HA in Beirut.. doesn’t mean that the arabs didn’t have weapons… the amount of artillery used in Lebanon in 2006 was more than the used in all the Israeli arab wars all added together.. how many prisoner did they take from HA?
  How do u expect people who were carrying the slogan badna n3eesh to have strong will to fight in real time… they were counting on people from the north.. bass lot of these people didn’t or couldn’t come.. bass in the same time more than 6 from the north died fighting in Beirut…halae are you really convinced that people in Beirut don’t have the minimum weapons in their houses if they really have the gots? Khaye when the Syrian went to b3abda, people attacked them with their hunting riffles and more then two hundreds died.. they had the gots…

  when everybody stopped the war in the 90s and started living the lovely Lebanon, We were still training and fighting still against Israel… our arm forces is way ahead of others.. . when some of my old friends from al aouniye used to brag next to me about their conflicts with al darak ( we weren’t allies yet ) in university I used to smile as we were bombarded at by the F16 few days earlier…

  in al jabal, al druze in opposite to the sunnies had the will to fight… in three hours half of the mountain was taken.. when a group of HA was ambushed after the cease fire , look what happened in al chwaifat and in al barrouk.. ( am not sure if you know by the way )… at the end in 24 hours every thing ended the same way as in Beirut…

  and you talk about the timing and the American green light.. haydi smahli fiya.. it was the stupid decisions of the government in the famous night that burned everything… I called my family at 9 AM telling them to leave that day because the war is going to start.. it was so obvious.. and ba3deen, we told the people in M14 that if America is backing you up now , doesn’t mean they will fight your war, same as happened in lot of locations.. did the American give green light to hamas in ghaza or to the russian in georgia?

  look I don’t have doubt that you like Lebanon but it is so clear that your information are so much affected by the propaganda of one team and you tend to see and conclude things the way that will meet your pre judgement and stereotype.
  Khaye you are listening and believing lot of liyes.. sorry

  salam

• 17. ja3far | November 19th, 2008 at 10:23 am

  by the way fuziad… i wish you could read arabic just to read the poem of nizar kabani i forwarded you the link of…

  salam,

• 18. Ali | November 19th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

  Fuziad,
  i said,”Hizbullah didnt fight civilians!!!
  aslan its against its principles!!!”
  u dont have to be genius to kno that the pronoun it refers to”Fighting civilians” ..and not “fighting”.it seems that u lack the minimum requirements that would allow u to debate!!:D
  i pitty ppl of ur kind!!:(

• 19. Ali | November 19th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

  nice comment jaa3far..
  i couldnt put it better myself:)!!
  but my dear, a person who is not able to understand a simple quote will never know how to analyse such events!!!
  as Imam Ali once said,” ma 7arajto jahelan 2ella w ghallabani”.u cant debate anyone!!for there are always that kind of ppl!!!!

• 20. ja3far | November 19th, 2008 at 5:59 pm

  wala ya ali albak biyouja3ak, most of the guys here are good people.. bass min3ama 3aalboun..
  salam

• 21. Ali | November 19th, 2008 at 7:38 pm

  khaleyon!!!
  they have decided to make us their enemies even though we havent caused them any harm unlike many of their allies!!! let them follow that freak!! i wish that they wouldnt end up like the ones in Share2 saida!!!

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