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• 1. bashirist for life | October 29th, 2008 at 11:21 pm

  I think Obama’s ideas are great on paper but when it comes to execute them might be tough he has to answer to many poloticians in congress and i feel lots of the things he wants to do will not be able to but as far as Lebanon is concered i prefer McCain, his policies are much better and has more experience than Obama. I feel obama might deal with Iran, syria and the rest of the evils at Lebanons expense and that might be a death warrant for Lebanon.
  I think Obama is a big risk and i don’t think the U.S.A is REALLY ready for a black president. Someone sent me an email of a guy on a motorcycle the back of his shirt reads: Nigger, please it’s a white house.

• 2. Mark Quebec | October 29th, 2008 at 11:32 pm

  Obama is definitely better for America as a whole, he is a very clean politician a self-made men and a true maverick, he did a great choice when choosing Biden as a VP. Plus, he is change by the fact that he’s black. You can also feel that his policies are much better in terms of enhancing the middle class’ needs by giving them universal health care and other benefits.

  Not to say that McCain is a bad guy, no. His campaign was not as competent as Obama’s and the way he attacked Obama was definitely sapless and out of touch. Now,when choosing Palin as a VP, things weren’t getting any better. She has proven to be very weak professionally.

  I think Obama should win. He’s more moderate and the US fo po would be more concentrated on diplomacy then wars and invasions of other countries.

• 3. Rodge | October 29th, 2008 at 11:49 pm

  I’m with Obama, because simply i think that McCain will follow the path of Bush who brought only disasters, and is rated as the worse American President.
  I see Obama similar to Kennedy at that time, he may change the latest face of the US, and he is able to make things better, eventhough I’m not expecting a big change.
  This man has a good charisma, and I don’t think he is involved with some Sharks and big businesses like Bush,
  As for Lebanon, I don’t see any change whether Obama or McCain, and i’m not afraid that Democrats will let loose the Syrians again in Lebanon, while the Republicans are tougher.
  We should remember that George Bush the father, who is Republican, was the one who gave Syria the gren line to do whatever it wants in Lebanon.
  So as we are a small country, we will be subject to interests, these interests will not change too much whether it is Obama or McCain, and I don’t think Democrats will be good to Syria or Iran, maybe not too offensive, but we will get the same result here.

• 4. ja3far | October 29th, 2008 at 11:51 pm

  the excisting american policie is destroying our world. they broke the kyoto treaty, they are refusing to sign the cluster bombs treaty, they are steeling all our resources by printing money unconditionaly.they are above any law. the politic is controlled by big oils and weapons companies… bush is the first american president to be welcomed by burning american flags in all the countries he visit.
  do i want this policy to continue through Mccain .. of course not… i prefair to have an american who think there exists other alternatives then the B51 bombers. who is really able to give america the place it should take .. the world leader.. not the world destroyer…

  salam

• 5. danny | October 29th, 2008 at 11:56 pm

  McCain was thrown in by the Republicans as they knew that anyone else would have been totally destroyed by anyone from the democratic side…McCain has been a good senator for over three decades. However, as perceptions along with policies mean something…He is too old. He does not have much support in the Republican party. His most ardent supporter is a democrat: Leiberman. He is still close because of obama’s race…

  Obama…New face, but not much substance. Good orator; however his speeches are full of cliches!

  The Senate and the House are going Democratic way…Whoever wins will have their plate full as the world economy slips into a recession.

  As who is better for Lebanon. Neither! Obama might send in his surrogates to “talk” to Assad and Amjad…So what? How long will it take to end that honeymoon?

  They will both move their Middle East policy based on Israel’s needs and wants. Bashar is still around because of Israel’s love for him. A brutal dictator who can control the northern frontier. That’s what Israel wants and Israel gets!

  We as a country are nothing but a fly in the USA soup!

• 6. bsm | October 29th, 2008 at 11:58 pm

  For all those that are fooled by obama’s BS, you need to realize that this man will make the west weaker and all the extremist of the world will take advantage of it. If obama win’s, you can say goodbye to Lebanon’s fight to keep it free from iran and syria!

• 7. Bush | October 30th, 2008 at 12:05 am

  Voting for McCain. When it comes to foreign policy. I think the Republicans knows better how to deal with the world. The Democrats have no real view on world politics. Hopefully we won’t be disappointed

• 8. Mickel | October 30th, 2008 at 12:15 am

  Obama is a socialist.

  Obama is inexperienced.

  Obama wants to talk to Iran and Syria, and he might make deals with them that will screw us over.

  Obama is going to embolden terrorists.

  Obama is making a bunch of promises that he can’t keep because America is broke.

  Obama is too inexperienced on foreign policy.

  John McCain is a pro on foreign policy, and is moderate and does what’s good for the people.

  The only reason Obama is being elected is because he has people brainwashed on this empty idea of “hope and change” — which is meaningless just like the whole “peace and love” thing in the 60s — which has gotten him a lot of support especially among young voters who get influenced easily.

  NOBAMA.

• 9. Mickel | October 30th, 2008 at 12:18 am

  Mark

  So if he’s black, I should vote for him?!

• 10. Rima | October 30th, 2008 at 12:40 am

  Unfortunately, it seems like Obama is going to win. For sure, I am against Obama for the reasons listed by Mickel and Danny. Sometimes people vote for change for the sake of change…I don’t see how Obama is going to deal with global terrorism, economic crisis…It is about style over substance. Some Americans vote for their president as if they are voting for the American Idol!pathetic

  Rodge, I don’t agree that Bush brought disaster to the world, he had to deal with 9/11 and global terrorism for 8 years. Remember Jesus also was not so popular among his own people they even crucified him!!!!

  Cheers

• 11. Jean | October 30th, 2008 at 1:17 am

  OBAMA AND AOUN HAVE SO MUCH IN COMMON….
  Can you highlight a few???

  1- Lying
  2- Flip flopping
  3- Bouncing around with the enemy

  etc…

• 12. Patrick | October 30th, 2008 at 2:49 am

  jean is right on target.

  consider obama’s relationship with:

  - trinity united methodist church in chicago and the church’s pastor jeremiah wright. earlier this year, the church published the HAMAS manifesto in its church bulletin, and wright has made a stir saying ‘god damn america’ and a host of other anti-american, anti-israel and pro-muslim bullshit.

  - another chicago pastor michael pfleger, same story.

  - bill ayers, the leader of ‘the weather underground,’ a terrorist organization in the 1970s which bombed the pentagon, the u.s. capitol and other federal targets.

  - khalid rashidi, PLO advisor

  - ‘the nation of islam’ racist/militant organization in the U.S.

  - the jew-hating louis farrakhan

  - khaled mansour, the multi-millionaire advisor to some of the richest saudi billionaires in the world, which dates back as far as when he wrote obama’s letter of recommendation to harvard university

  - obama’s middle east advisor robert malley, who resigned after his positive opinions of HAMAS came out

  - mazen absahi, obama’s arab american and muslim-american affairs/muslim outreach coordinator, who resigned after his connections with HAMAS and muslim brotherhood front groups like CAIR and MAS came out.

  - SAME story with obama’s foreign policy advisor, another muslim named samantha power who in an interview which you can find on youtube talks about diminishing american aid to israel, giving it to the palestinians instead, and also about the possibility of american military intervention against israel. she said she expects to SERVE in an obama administration, ie be appointed to some position.

  - also, a jordanian man named jamal saiid, an imam at a mosque in bridgeview, illinois who is a colleague of mustapha and abdullah azzam, the mentors of osama bin laden. jamal saiid is also conneced with the muslim brotherhood and HAMAS, and trains local muslim youth for the ‘future jihad in america’ according to a former muslim who said he used to be a part of jamal saiid’s group and has shown videos to prove it.

  - obama’s *own* relationship with muslim brotherhood/HAMAS front groups like CAIR and MAS.

  - the jew-hating, israel-hating jesse jackson.

  - millions of dollars in illegal campaign contributions from foreign muslims (eg, more than $50,000 from two brothers in gaza), and that’s just from the half of his campaign money he’s making public.

  - how about the half he’s not disclosing any information about? maybe some of those saudi billionaires he’s connected with through khaled mansour?

  - his father was a muslim from kenya, and so are dozens of his family members

  - obama was raised in indonesia, but he won’t disclose much information on the education he received at the madrassas there (learning arabic, reciting islamic prayers, memorization and recitation of the qur’an, and of course the anti-christian, anti-jewish bullshit), or on his attendance to a mosque in his youth

  - took multiple trips to pakistan when he was in his 20s, and he won’t disclose much information about those trips either

  - the ACORN organization which had 14 offices raided by the FBI (investigation is ongoing) regarding the largest voter fraud case in the history of america, involving the registration of hundreds of thousands of pro-obama voters who shouldn’t have been able to vote (eg, same people voting multiple times because they have been registered in multiple districts, people voting using the names of people who are no longer alive, or for example the more than 30,000 fellons who were registered to vote in florida who according to the law lose their voting privilege since they committed fellonies).

  - obama’s plan to reduce the u.s. military budget by 25%

  - his marxist economic/healthcare/education policies (”redistribute the wealth”, etc.)

  - and yes, his talk of leaving iraq immediately and his opposition to iraq in the first place.

  - i’m sure i don’t need to go on.

• 13. LF Forever | October 30th, 2008 at 2:55 am

  I AM FOR OBAMA.

  I WILL VOTE FOR HIM AND I AM FAD UP WITH BUSH AND HIS FATHER…

  PALIN IS A HOKEY MOM AND SHE BETTER STAY THE WAY SHE IS….

  YALLAH BADNA NGHAYER YA CHABEB…

  IN LEBANON TOO…

  WE NEED GEAGEA FOR PRESIDENT COMING FROM A SIMPLE FAMILY…

  WORDS OF A REPUBLICAN.

  LF FOREVER

  OBAMA ONLY TO GIVE A LESSON TO THE ARROGANCY AND THE POWER

• 14. Rima | October 30th, 2008 at 3:32 am

  Patrick

  so why are the Americans so infatuated with Barack Hussein Obama???????????

• 15. Lola | October 30th, 2008 at 3:54 am

  Koull lee man tou3acher, akoulou laka man ant!
  For Obamas fans go check hes backround starting with hIs preacher who cursed America and AMERICANS ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS and is a racist and then decide that he Is best to lead.

  NOBAMA

• 16. Delta | October 30th, 2008 at 5:12 am

  Obama willl be a bi slap for march 14 mc cain will be much better for us as lebanese and will keep the plan that started 4 years ago to have a free country called leb a simple as that

• 17. Patrick | October 30th, 2008 at 6:01 am

  Rima,

  because some americans are sheep just like lebanese who follow nasrallah or aoun. obama is young, he gives great public speeches, he knows how to answer questions politically and also throw in some good rhetoric, he has five times as much money as mccain for campaigning, and all the tv stations and major newspapers here are with his party.

  on the other hand, mccain is old, can’t give a good public speech to save his life, doesn’t know how to answer questions politically or throw in rhetoric, has five times as LESS money, and has only one major tv station with his party (FOX).

  the math is pretty simple.

• 18. bsm | October 30th, 2008 at 6:11 am

  Rima,

  Don’t bet on osama, sorry i mean obama winning just yet.
  this weekend will have a couple surprises.

• 19. bsm | October 30th, 2008 at 6:14 am

  LF Forever,
  If you are a true LF supporter, you would understand that Mc Cain is 100% with the Lebanese Forces and what we believe in.

• 20. miami LF | October 30th, 2008 at 6:27 am

  if obama will be elected , or mc cain ,it is the same.both of them are freemasons,and the political ideas will remain the same…
  secret societies are ruling the world,and we will vote for the same person just like bush and kerry.in their speech,both of them said( we are not going to loose )
  every thing is prepared…

• 21. Patrick | October 30th, 2008 at 7:01 am

  ja3far,

  we didn’t break the kyoto protocol because we didn’t sign it. the people who drafted the protocol used the year 1990 as a base year. do yourself a favor and google about why it was very deceiving for them to pick that year.

  “bush is the first president to be welcomed by burning flags in all (read: all the muslim and muslim-allied) countries he visits”

  if the standard by which we judge bush is whether or not he is greeted by burning american flags in muslim countries, then i’d say bush must be doing something right!

  and we already have a president who thinks there are other solutions than bombing. his name is george bush. for example, if alqaeda hadn’t done 9/11, then we wouldn’t be in afghanistan. another example, if saddam had come clean at the UN and stopped dicking around with us, we wouldn’t be in iraq. final example: if ahmadinejad would stop pursuing nuclear weapons and talking about wiping israel off the face of the earth and talking about the end of america and our allies and funding/supplying hezbollah/islamic jihad/hamas/etc. and perpetuating the violence in iraq, then we wouldn’t be reviewing plans to bomb natanz, arak, isfahan, darkhovin, bushehr, saghand, tehran, etc.

• 22. Patrick | October 30th, 2008 at 7:11 am

  first time i re-read what i wrote. i said khalid rashidi, i meant rashid khalidi*

• 23. Michele | October 30th, 2008 at 7:38 am

  When i asked my american friends who would they be voting for and why, most of them said Obama n for the following reasons:

  1) Obama was the only prominent political figure who never agreed with the US invading Iraq.

  2)He believes in women’s rights, supports the middle class, has a clear cut energy plan which supports the environment, has a concise health care plan for all Americans by making health care available to ALL .

  3) He can say the names of political figures and other countries properly!!!

  I’m not sure who would be best for Lebanon as just like Rima, i’m not sure how he will deal wz foreign politics n global terrorism.

  I have a feeling that most of the americans r voting for him for all the wrong reasons or as Rima said as if they were voting for American idol. (btw Rima, i loved it).

• 24. theFool | October 30th, 2008 at 7:57 am

  If you’d like strictly concerning Lebanon, French President Sarkozy, and Minister of foreign Affairs, Bernard Kouchner have more of an impact on safegarding Lebanon than Obama; But Obama would make a great combo to Middle Eastern politics in 2009.

• 25. David | October 30th, 2008 at 9:14 am

  If you could compare Obama and McCain to Aoun and Geagea, Obama would be Aoun, and McCain would be Geagea.

• 26. LF Freemason | October 30th, 2008 at 9:16 am

  I’m a freemason and I am LF. One does not preclude the other. Freemasonry is not some sort of secret. The fact that you know freemason’s exist means we are not a secret society. We are an esoteric society, it’s much different. And being a freemason doesn’t guarantee a presidency in the United States. George Bush wasn’t a mason, he was skull and bones, and if you would do your homework you would realize that skull and bones were a society at Yale University. Masonry is the world’s oldest and largest fraternity.

• 27. Michele | October 30th, 2008 at 9:19 am

  Please David elaborate a bit.

• 28. George | October 30th, 2008 at 9:29 am

  Obama = Aoun, McCain = Geagea? Are you people for real? Honestly, where do you learn political science, foreign affairs and economics? I would love to know.

  Aoun is a useless tit that only cares about his own ego. Geagea actually knows when to keep his mouth shut and speak out only when he has given consideration about a subject.

  McCain may be potentially decent when it comes to dealing with a foreign wars, but tact and diplomacy are foreign to this man. He barely has a working grasp of supply and demand, let alone comprehend what a golden parachute is.

  Obama, for right or wrong can actually compose himself in public and speak in a manner becoming of an elected official. He learns the subject and provides his perspective. He doesn’t throw a fit or get agitated.

  If anything, behaviorally Aoun and McCain are the pair and Obama and Geagea are the pair.

  And screw picking a president for Lebanon’s sake… geez!
  Honestly, you go pick your own president. Americans need a president that will take the time to handle their issues.

• 29. Rodge | October 30th, 2008 at 9:33 am

  Michele,

  I think David meant the same as Jean and Patrick said before, but it doesn;t hurt to elaborate on the subject.

  In anyway, no one of us here can be sure about who’s better, we are all expressing our opinions and views, as well as some analysis, but we can be right or wrong and that’s what the coming period will prove.

  N10452,
  Now after reading many prospects, i’m interested to hear your opinion, eventhough I highly think that u’re against Obama and prefer McCain and the republicans

• 30. LF Freeason | October 30th, 2008 at 9:35 am

  What on earth does being a freemason have to do with this presidential race? Bush nor Kerry were freemasons they were Skull and Bones, which was a society of Yale University. Skull and Bones have nothing to do with masonry which is the world’s oldest and largest fraternity in the world. People should be more concerned with the abilities of the candidates rather than how they spend their free time. Would it matter if Geagea and Aoun were masons? Since when was it a crime to be in an esoteric society (note: freemasonry is not a secret society, if you people know about it, it isn’t a secret)

• 31. David | October 30th, 2008 at 10:11 am

  It basically comes down to knowing who your enemies are and who your friends are. Aoun regards LF as his enemies and Hezbollah as his friends. That says it all. Obama is pretty much the same.

• 32. ja3far | October 30th, 2008 at 12:47 pm

  i have read this article by the israeli peace activist ( ex MP ) Uri Avnery… even though i dont meet with him in several things.. but i believe the article is worth reading…

  salam

  The election of Obama, a man whose convictions are liberal and democratic, can give us back some of our faith in the U.S.

  By Uri Avnery

  The President of the United States is the king of this planet. I live on this planet. Therefore, the election of the President concerns me, too. Very much so.

  The President is not the sole ruler of the world. There are other rulers too, albeit less powerful ones. His decisions are subject to many constraints beyond his control. But there is no other person on earth whose decisions have such an impact on our lives.

  The eight years of George W. Bush can serve as an example. The primitive character of the man, his low intellectual level, his past as a born-again zealot - all these have influenced the state of the world, from his failure in preventing 9/11, through his bloody adventures in Afghanistan and Iraq, to the collapse of the world economy.

  But still, every one of us, the citizens of the world who cannot vote in this election, has at least the right to say which of the candidates he or she would prefer in the White House.

  I prefer Barack Obama.

  Elections are not beauty contests. A wise voter must define the criteria according to which he intends to make his choice.

  For me, the main attribute, overshadowing all others, is the ability to quickly recognize major changes when they occur and draw the necessary conclusions without delay.

  In the words of the ancient Greek philosopher, “everything flows” - we know that the world does not stand still for a moment. In our time, with the rapid pace of modern life, the changes are quicker and more dramatic then they were 200 years ago.

  The development of technology, the spread of the internet, globalization, climate change, the instability of the economy, the currents of human migration, shifts in the world-wide balance of power - these and a thousand other factors ensure that changes will become more and more frequent and more and more radical.

  The ability to adapt quickly to new situations is a decisive requirement for a leader. After dealing successfully with the world economic crisis, Franklin Delano Roosevelt reacted rapidly to Pearl Harbor.

  Winston Churchill recognized before others the danger inherent in Hitler’s ascent to power in Germany. The young and inexperienced John Kennedy dealt decisively with the Cuban missile crisis, which had brought the world to the brink of World War III. Mikhail Gorbachev oversaw the sudden collapse of the Soviet Bloc and avoided world-wide bloodshed. The next American President will be faced right away with an economic crisis that is changing the face of the world.

  The President resembles the helmsman of a sailing-boat who has to be ready at every moment for a sudden change of the wind and even for a hurricane.

  Which of the two - Barack Obama or John McCain - is better suited for that job? The elderly Republican, who sees himself as the successor of a long row of Admirals and whose spiritual world is stuck in the middle of the 20th century, or the (comparatively) young Democrat, a man of the 21st?

  The second test, in my eyes, concerns the character of the candidates. A person can change his opinions, but hardly his character. A solid - but not exaggerated - self-confidence, self-discipline, cool-headedness in a crisis - these will have a large influence on his ability to carry out his duties.

  We have seen the two in the great debates. One should not pay too much attention to what was said there - everything said in an election campaign is merely a tool to catch votes. But we saw how the two candidates function under extreme stress. Obama controlled himself admirably. His self-discipline did not falter for a moment. He did not respond to provocations and he kept his cool at all times. McCain was much less in control of himself.

  The most important decision the two had to make in the course of the campaign was the choice of a running mate. Since the Vice-President can assume power at a moment’s notice - and there is indeed a significant probability that this may happen - the decision tells us much about the decision maker.

  Obama’s decision was responsible and reasonable. He did not choose a brilliant or charismatic person, but someone who is versed in the affairs of state and could assume office without a problem.

  McCain’s decision was a scandal that cries to high heaven. It suffices by itself to disqualify him from high office - not because of Sarah Palin’s opinions or her character, but because she is totally incapable of filling the role of President.

  The choice testifies to a basic flaw in McCain’s character. He chose her because of the needs of the moment - to revive a flagging campaign and surprise the media, while appealing to the most primitive strata of American society. He jeopardized the future of the country for momentary expediency.

  A person who is capable of making such a mistake should not be in a position to lead the most powerful country and to command the strongest military force on earth.

  Moreover, the voter must ask himself or herself: if the President suffers a stroke, like Ariel Sharon, or is assassinated, like John F. Kennedy - would I prefer to see Biden or Palin in the Oval Office?

  As for myself, I shrink back from the very idea of this primitive and venomous demagogue, Sarah Palin, becoming the “Leader of the Free World”.

  A third test is the ability to choose aides. This, too, is an important attribute.

  A strong leader, confident of himself, chooses highly qualified assistants, people who are prepared to advance independent opinions and contradict the boss to his face. A leader lacking self-confidence surrounds himself with flatterers and yes-men, who tell him only what he wants to hear. John Kennedy surrounded himself with the best and the brightest. George W. belongs to the second category.

  I judge Israeli leaders by this measure. Yigal Allon, a much admired general and politician, surrounded himself with bright young men, who did not hesitate to interrupt him in mid-speech and contradict him. Menachem Begin was surrounded by people who agreed with his every word.

  A strong leader invites disagreement, debate, brainstorming. A leader who only acts strong does not brook any opposition. (Like the ultimate dictator, Adolf Hitler, who broke out in fits of rage if anyone dared to contradict him.)

  Politics is a profession by itself. Most politicians have no profound knowledge of other matters, certainly not in the areas in which they have to make fateful decisions - from economics to military strategy. So the choice of the right advisors and the readiness to listen with an open mind, to learn and to think anew are essential qualities. I have the impression that Obama can do it. I am not so sure about McCain.

  There is another important consideration to take into account while making the choice: in a week and a half not only will a president be chosen, but also a very large group of senior officials in all areas of government.

  In the American system, the new occupant of the White House brings with him thousands of other office-holders, whose equivalents in other countries belong to the permanent civil service. It is easy to imagine the huge difference between those Obama would bring with him and those who would come with McCain.

  One should not forget the Supreme Court, which plays a central part in the American system (as it does now in Israel). It is the President who chooses new justices. The appointment of one or two can bring about far-reaching changes.

  When one speaks about the election of a President of the United States, it is also very important to consider the candidate’s openness to the wide world.

  The United States is not just a country, it’s half a continent. Many of its citizens don’t give a damn about the world outside and don’t want to hear about it. School children are unable to place China or Brazil on the map. Like previous empires, the USA sees itself as an island of civilization in a sea of barbarians. (Just like Ehud Barak, with his Israel as a “villa in the middle of the jungle”.)

  George Bush came to the White House with minimal knowledge about the world. John McCain does not know much more. True, he was born in the American military ghetto in Panama and languished for five years in a Vietnamese prison, but that does not make him a citizen of the world.

  In this respect, Obama has an advantage unmatched by any previous president. He is the son of a black father who came from Kenya and a white American mother. In his childhood he attended a school in Indonesia. His manifold roots and experience give him much wider horizons. For a new arrival at the White House, that is an important treasure. There are things one cannot learn from others. Personal experience counts.

  I must add a subjective remark. I belong to a generation that grew up admiring America. We saw the U.S. as the freeest country in the world, an idealistic society, the bastion of democracy and human rights. In two world wars it rushed to the rescue of the opponents of tyranny.

  When we had grown up, we found out that it ain’t necessarily so. We saw that the US is like most other states, and worse than some. During the last eight years, the US has presented itself to the world as an arrogant, bullying, primitive and aggressive country that rides roughshod over the human rights of its own and foreign citizens, justifies torture, keeps abominable concentration camps, and the list goes on.

  The election of Barack Obama, a man who is half black and half white and whose convictions are liberal and democratic, can give us back some of our faith in the United States. It would show that, as has happened several times in the past, America can draw back from the brink in time and find itself again, as it did at the end of the Joe McCarthy era.

  I do not entertain many illusions. I know that even in the best of circumstances, one single person cannot turn such a huge ship around and reverse its direction completely. But even small changes can be of immense importance to the world.

  Perhaps, some day, I shall regret every word I have written here. Obama may prove to be a disappointment, and very much so. We cannot know the future. Today we can judge only on the basis of what we know today, according to our impressions and feelings today.

  And these tell me: Obama.

  – Uri Avnery, an Israeli writer and peace activist, founded the Gush Shalom movement. He had served three terms as an MP at the Knesset. This article was published by Gush Shalom.

• 33. Rima | October 30th, 2008 at 1:32 pm

  This liberal Israeli has no clue really…

  As Ann Coulter said, “If Liberals had any brains they’d become Republicans”

  What stupid world are we living in? How come no one mentions terrorism anymore…Now they blame it all on Bush!!!!!!!

• 34. danny | October 30th, 2008 at 2:03 pm

  If Obama gets elected it is because of a “rebound”…Those of you who have experienced that in a relationship will know what it feels like the morning after…

  After eight years of Bush bashing the USA electorate might elect Obama on a rebound…Again, remember that this guy has not anyone blown away by his record or plans…

  Even with Bush’s total unpopularity, Republican rebuke, total economic meltown (worst since depression), MxCain’s Marginal ststus(he was fifth in early primaries)…add to this a relentless CNN who’s intent on glorifying Obama while belittling the Obama…We’re still 3-4% apart!!

  What does that tell you? What does it tell you the Americans elected Bush TWICE!!

  I just hope that we will not see another Carter era…but a Clinton era with teeth against terrorism.

• 35. ja3far | October 30th, 2008 at 2:17 pm

  danny …i have a simple question for you:
  if obama was completely white…if his parents were purely christians , and he is not a converted ex muslim
  ( by the way i thought many of the peopl here were so supportive to the iranian converted christians, while the same people are insisting on him being still of a muslim DNA )
  do you think the gap would still be 3-4%?

  salam

• 36. Michele | October 30th, 2008 at 2:30 pm

  Seriously Ja3far, where did u detect the racism in the above??

  The persons who are against Obama clearly mentioned the reason why.
  As u can see most of the LFers were pro-Obama.

  Just yesterday most of the Lebanese maronites said that they wouldn’t care having anymore a maronite president as long as he’s patriotic n good for Lebanon. So why the hell would we mind it for the states?

• 37. ja3far | October 30th, 2008 at 2:35 pm

  michele.. i ment some of the people .. not all.. there is at least 4 comments here that do confirm what i said… i will not attack any one personaly…
  salam

• 38. danny | October 30th, 2008 at 3:14 pm

  Sammy,

  To echo Michele…Where did I say anything racist? Please kindly point it out…You see my man you are the one who’s engulfed in hatred and racism. I never mentioned Obama’s religion or race!

  I don’t give a hoot about Iranian conversion rates…My point about Iran9in previous posts) was to refute your obscure logic that they are free BUT they have their laws (which are racist and totally idiotic). A free society does not have repressive laws. Another point about your hated AMERICA…You can have a black man run for prez and most likely win…I’d like to see a Christian run for prez in Iran (would your black/brown turbines allow that or would they execute him/her too)??

  3-4%?? Maybe you are not listening or reading…IF Obama had distinguished himself positively then please let me know of his amazing energy policy and “wealth distribution” schemes…I care about economy and healthcare and well being of the country and population. Unlike you who after softpeddling seem to always fall back into the Bovine scatalogy.

• 39. ja3far | October 30th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

  danny habibi… did i say that u in particular have made a racist comment about obama ? can u kindly pin point it for me

  i believe that the republicans were using the point i mentioned big time. that is why the gap is so small .. all you need to do is to look at the comment of patrick above to understand what i mean ..

  take it easy ya 3azizi

  salam

• 40. ja3far | October 30th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

  patrick … it is amazing how a person who kept preaching me about love and how wonderful his god is can turn to be such a racist so quickly … halalouya

• 41. Patrick | October 30th, 2008 at 4:31 pm

  ja3far,

  ya akhi, what did anything i said have to do with race? since when did highlighting obama’s relationship with alikhwaan almuslimun, hamas, the PLO, a terrorist organization, anti-american and anti-israel advisors, wahhabi billionaires, etc. become a racist thing to do?

• 42. danny | October 30th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

  sammy,

  “…( by the way i thought many of the peopl here were so supportive to the iranian converted christians, while the same people are insisting on him being still of a muslim DNA )”
  Did you say that?
  Why do you wander/wonder…Answer my questions first as you brought up your persian friends’ issue.
  People are expressing their opinion. for your information Mr. Obama could not be ahead of McCain if it were not for the WHITE votes! Capiche? Why do you think Obama is the second comming of Jesus or the Prophet Muhamad?? He’s just a politician who has been around a few short years! …and I am not a Qare’at Funjan like you!

• 43. ja3far | October 30th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

  habibi danny why do u insist on u being wrong? did you read my comment number 33 before making all this debate? few comments here were targetting obama being of muslim origin, even though he converted .. example khayi patrick by saying:”
  his father was a muslim from kenya, and so are dozens of his family members..
  then rima answered him agreeing mentioning his full name : Barrak Hussein Obama. then BSM answered using the name Osama instead of obama..ect..
  is it clearer for you now ?,, i did not mean you in particular…

  salam

• 44. danny | October 30th, 2008 at 5:07 pm

  The wonders of free society where people can say most what they want…just like Iran!
  Sammy, people are free to express their opnions otherwise we’ll all be like those in the Dahiye…repeating “mowt to amerika”.

  I cannot answer for others. could you answer whether a Christian woman can run for prez in Iran?

• 45. Charbel | October 30th, 2008 at 6:07 pm

  I voted 2 days ago—-> Barack Hussein Obama

  I voted for him because he is an undercover Muslim

  I voted for him because he has a secret plan to enslave the white population… karma I guess

  I voted for him because he plans to make the White House… The pimped up Black House

  I voted for him because he is a reincarnation for Karl Marx in black skin!

  I voted for him because he is going to be a legalized “Robin Hood”, a thief( or gangsta) that will steal the money from those poor rich people and give it to the minorities and illegals in the country

  I voted for him because he will be shopping, with he help of president Ahmadinejad, for Persian carpet in Iran… while cracking “Homsi” jokes with president Assad and drinking Hennessy with Kim Jong Ill)ironically that Kim’s and black rapers’ favorite alcohol)

  And a few other reasons…

• 46. Chad | October 30th, 2008 at 6:27 pm

  Just FYI. The LF in the US are 100% supporting McCain. The truth is that the Government should be a Bodyguard and not a Nanny. A Boduguard could sometimes lack in judgement and act stupid but he will get 80% of the things done and will take the bullet for you. A Nanny will start telling what to do with your life and how to raise your kids and spend your money but does not have the courage to fight back. McCain is a Bodyguard and Obama a Nanny. Just like the LF’s are bodyguards and HA a nanny. We want somebody to protect us so we can prosper and be safe, but not somebody to tell us how to live our lives. The US does not want to become a socialist country like France. You do not want somebody to negotiate with terrorists and dictators. Finally, just consider this: If it wasn’t for some crazy Bush threatening Syria. would they have pulled out after 30 years of cash cowing? Obama is a whimp and will not stand a chance against the terrorists.

• 47. paul | October 30th, 2008 at 6:32 pm

  I was always against obama until i saw this.

  it´s really convincing.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKsoXHYICqU

• 48. ja3far | October 30th, 2008 at 7:09 pm

  Patrick.. habibi,, when you call someone nigger, this is not racism.. this is stupidity..
  but when u say you dont want to vote for a chrestian because
  his father was a muslim from kenya, and so are dozens of his family members..
  that is the real dangerous racism.. and you know that very well…

• 49. Patrick | October 30th, 2008 at 7:49 pm

  ja3far, ya akhi,

  i have two points.

  1) i have been extremely clear. the reason i don’t trust obama is because he associates with alikhwaan almuslimun and hamas front groups, terrorists, wahhabi billionaires, anti-america and anti-israel policy advisors, and jew-haters.

  2) therefore, my comments regarding his father and other family members being muslims from kenya must be seen in light of the 25 other points i made, which i summarized in point 1 above. it has absolutely NOTHING to do with obama being black or having ethnically kenyan roots, but rather it has to do with his roots in islamic education of the variety found in kenya (and indonesia, where he grew up, as i pointed out). nothing to do with race, dumbass.

• 50. ja3far | October 30th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

  patrick.. another two points of your 25 points:)
  the wahabi billionaires are very well known to support the bush family and the republicans since a long time…
  another remarque.. let us say i have found through our discussions that it will be better for me to follow the same road you follow.. and opened my heart and did what obama did and switched to christianity.. would you then say about me what you said about obama :
  obama was raised in indonesia, but he won’t disclose much information on the education he received at the madrassas there (learning arabic, reciting islamic prayers, memorization and recitation of the qur’an, and of course the anti-christian, anti-jewish bullshit), or on his attendance to a mosque in his youth’”

  finally.. did you call me dumbass?

• 51. Patrick | October 30th, 2008 at 8:03 pm

  ja3far,

  i get the feeling you are focusing on this one point about kenya and twisting what i said just to distract from the 25 other points about his relationship to alikhwaan almuslimun and hamas front groups, terrorists, wahhabi billionaires, anti-america and anti-israel policy advisors, and jew-haters.

  you twist what i said about kenya to make it an issue about race when it has nothing to do with race but with the islamic education he received in his youth, and you never responded to the larger points.

  and why do you keep mentioning the fact that obama is a christian? i wouldn’t care even if he was a muslim, if he CONDEMNED muslim terrorists instead of becoming their best friends. dumbass.

• 52. Patrick | October 30th, 2008 at 8:03 pm

  best friend*

• 53. ja3far | October 30th, 2008 at 8:09 pm

  danny habibi … was the free of speech the point you attacked me for at the begining and made the debate? you switched the debate completely in a different way.. and if i call you a baby you get upset..

  anyway…the freedom of a person stop when it disturb the freedom of another..
  i am against people saying whatever they want when they are hurting others or being racist.. this effect sociaty in a negative way.
  by the way have you heard of divinci code? was it al dahiye who banned it in lebanon?

  regarding iran. i am not iranian.. and i dont know neither care if it is allowed to vote a woman as president .. .but if they have it as law other people are so racist they are not able to vote one.. did we in lebanon ever had a woman president? did it ever happen in america or in too many other countries?
  can you have a female as head of the chirch in the vatican?
  seriously why do you open such silly debates?

  salam

• 54. Patrick | October 30th, 2008 at 8:12 pm

  who the f*** is being racist?!?!?

• 55. Cartman | October 30th, 2008 at 8:55 pm

  ja3far,
  you see… the only explanation to this faker’s comments is that he is indeed an idiot.

• 56. danny | October 30th, 2008 at 9:17 pm

  sammy,

  whenever you get cornered and flustered you revert to your stupid ways. There’s no other way of describing your diatribe in #53…
  This will be my last reply to you in this matter.

  I said:(#44)”I cannot answer for others. could you answer whether a Christian woman can run for prez in Iran?”
  YOU answered:(#53) “…did we in lebanon ever had a woman president? did it ever happen in america or in too many other countries?
  …”
  &
  “…seriously why do you open such silly debates?”

  No we have not had a woman president. but we had one who ran for the post (Nayla Mo3awad)
  They just had Hillary Clinton in the primaries against Obama…

  My little man you do not make sense. In fact whenever you have no sensible answer (never)you start babbling on…

  You are a narrowminded ??? who is looking for ‘help”…You can ask for referral to the “aasfourieh” from your idiol Orange in Rabieh.

  …and YES you are a racist full of hatred.

  Peace

• 57. ja3far | October 30th, 2008 at 9:53 pm

  danny.. u attacked me because i said some people who were defending iran christians want a christian of muslim father to become president…then u started defending the right of speech to end up wanting me to go to al3assfourieh while concluding that am a racist full of hattered .

  you are such a logical person in the way you organise your ideas and push the argument..
  congratualtion am very impressed …

  pst… am being sarcastic if you didnt get it , as few here dont understand sarcasm

• 58. ja3far | October 30th, 2008 at 9:54 pm

  * dont want a converted christian

• 59. ja3far | October 30th, 2008 at 11:51 pm

  danny.. patrick.. the article below for your information…

  Iranian women allowed to run for president

  Iran’s Guardian Council, the country’s top legislative arbitration body, has allowed female citizens to participate in the upcoming presidential election dueon June 17, state television reported on Saturday.

  Gholamhossein Elham, spokesman of the Guardian Council, wasquoted as saying women who are qualified in terms of some conditions can run for president.

  The decision ended disputes on the candidacy related to gender in the presidential election, which came from the ambiguity of theword “rejal” in Iran’s constitution.

  Iran’s constitution says presidential candidates must bereligious and political “rejal”, a loanword from Arabic which canbe interpreted as both “man” and “personalities”.

  Last October, the Guardian Council judged that only men would bequalified to compete in the presidential election.

  Elham announced Saturday that the Guardian Council has now agreed that the word does not specify gender.

  For the past 25 years, the hardline consitutional watchdog has rejected women from running for presidency according to the “male”interpretation.

  Source: Xinhua

• 60. David | October 30th, 2008 at 11:53 pm

  No Maronite can in good conscience vote for Obama for his position on abortion alone. He supports abortion from conception all the way until *after* birth. There is no good he could ever do that would make up for that.

• 61. danny | October 31st, 2008 at 12:10 am

  #58…read my comment…
  ” cannot answer for others. could you answer whether a Christian woman can run for prez in Iran?”

  Based on your post should I understand that if a woman is religious Christian she can run for prez??

• 62. Patrick | October 31st, 2008 at 12:19 am

  ja3far,

  i don’t know why you included my name in your response, as i was never part of the ‘women in iran’ debate above. don’t you know that debating me is a quick way to lose an argument?

  but since you dragged me into it, i have just ONE response:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zYKlSeIbrw

  so don’t talk about f***ing women’s rights in iran bi*chass.

• 63. Patrick | October 31st, 2008 at 12:28 am

  ja3far ya akhi,

  remember this?

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7aA_V1X1YM

• 64. ja3far | October 31st, 2008 at 12:37 am

  patrick.. i am not sure why i wrote your name. but as long as you are excited i have a question for you.. .. information that i like to know…

  what is your view to people who are not christians? do you consider it a sin to kill innocent unchristian people or you thing that god will forgive you the same way he forgived david and will forgive sharon for killing few tens of thousands in lebanon ?

  am curious to know… so i hope you will be honest with your answer,

  by the way your #12 comment is full of propaganda ;)…

  salam

• 65. ja3far | October 31st, 2008 at 12:44 am

  danny .. u are right.. i miss read the part of your comment…
  christian woman , nor man cannot become a president of iran..

  salam

• 66. Patrick | October 31st, 2008 at 12:51 am

  ja3far,

  i know as a follower of nasrallah you have difficulty differentiating between fact and propaganda, so i’ll be patient and help a little: all what i said in my #12 comment is fact.

  you want to distract from that with bullsh*t questions, but i won’t let you.

  if anyone is reading this: ignore all what is said between me and ja3far and just go back and read my #12 comment.

• 67. ja3far | October 31st, 2008 at 1:08 am

  patrick… i was serious with the questions i asked… the same way i was serious with my comment number 50 that u did not answer… you have prayed for god to enlighten my heart… may be am seeking the truth

  finaly, i really hope you will not loose your job when obama is elected.. it is good to communicate with u

  salam

• 68. Patrick | October 31st, 2008 at 1:18 am

  ja3far,

  bush’s relationship with saudis is not ideological, it’s about money.

  comparing bush’s relationship with saudi billionaires involved in the oil business to obama’s relationship with saudi billionaires involved in spreading wahhabism, his relationship with anti-american, anti-israeli and anti-jewish policy advisors and other public figures, with terrorists, alikhwaan almuslimun and hamas front groups, etc. …was an absurd comparison to make.

  everyone: ignore the back and forth bullsh*t between me and ja3far and just read my comment #12. ja3far wants to distract you.

• 69. Rima | October 31st, 2008 at 1:23 am

  So jaafar do you admit that you are paid to post in here?

• 70. Patrick | October 31st, 2008 at 1:28 am

  top five reasons you know ja3far is shi3a and a follower of nasrallah:

  blah blah blah ok skip this part.

  … and the number one reason ISsssssss…….. (drumroll)………

  1. he sits around all day posting on the internet BECAUSE HE HAS NO JOB.

  i have a midterm due online in four hours. i will not be posting again til after that.

• 71. ja3far | October 31st, 2008 at 11:57 am

  pstrick…tststst.. am surprised you losed your temper… you are a professional person .. you should be better then that
  why did you avoid answering direct questions my dear? i thought you like preaching your ideology …
  salam

• 72. Patrick | October 31st, 2008 at 12:10 pm

  i answered your questions already, and besides, i couldn’t resist never lost my temper. never do…

• 73. ja3far | October 31st, 2008 at 12:47 pm

  i hope u will not loose it again patrick.. i really do…
  but i cant find the answers to my question in comment 50 nor to my questions in comment 64 .. nor to my old question if u can pray to god to join you to bush and sharon in the other world…i would really love to know:)

  by the way when i read your last comment in our old discussion; you reminded me of few of my sunni friends who anythime we argue and they dont have anything to answer , they will just tell me this is not really the way you think you are using taquiya … that is when i stop the argument..am not sure if that is funny or sad..

  where are u based by the way?

  salam

• 74. ja3far | October 31st, 2008 at 12:54 pm

  rima.. kabri 3aelik dear… HA are well organised by they are not america.. and i dont think they are or planning to interfer in chatting rooms..

  i am a man like many here , who live and work outside lebanon, and who likes politics( like all lebanese) and finding in this blog a good connection to his country.
  as my job involve sitting hours behind the computer, i find it a nice brake every now and then to log here..and brake the routine of the day.

  i know you will not believe me like always … bass 3assa wa li3ala

  have a good day

  salam

• 75. LebananianaLebnani | November 1st, 2008 at 5:25 am

  Who cares if Mccain HELPS Lebanon more than Obama. 1, its not the US pres. job to take care of Lebanon, its LEBANESE peoples jobs to take care of LEBANON! 2nd, we dont need any help, because American HELP always turns out to be American INTRESTS and we obviously dont need that! SO LEBANESE in Lebanon and abroad, TAKE CARE OF YOUR GOD DAMNED COUNTRY CAUSE NO ONE ELSE IS GONNA HELP US!!

• 76. Patrick | November 2nd, 2008 at 8:16 am

  ja3far,

  detroit.

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