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• 1. Bachir 7ay Fina | October 28th, 2007 at 10:20 pm

  No N i don’t think so
  lebnen mano germany la yet7amal 2a3de 3askariye w nemna3 el tadakhoulet amerca.
  el amarcen wein nwajado bi 7el el kharab ma3oun.
  chefna chou toli3 men el 2oustoul el khamis bel zamenet li eja yetda7ak 3alayna ma yse3edne w heide zet el chi.

• 2. paul | October 28th, 2007 at 10:25 pm

  May 21, 2007 — Last month, WMR reported, “Our Lebanese sources as well as the Lebanese daily newspaper Aldiyar now report that a NATO base is to be built soon on the grounds of the largely abandoned airbase at Klieaat in northern Lebanon. The base will serve as the headquarters of a NATO rapid deployment force, helicopter squadrons, and Special Forces units although the cover story prepared by the Lebanese and US governments is that the base will provide training for the Lebanese army and security forces. The base was pushed by elements in the office of the US Secretary of Defense and the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The Bush administration had recently warned Lebanon about the presence of “Al Qaeda” teams in northern Lebanon.”

  Just as if acting on cue from the Bush White House, a new “terrorist group” called Fath al-Islam commenced operations in the vicinity of the Kleiaat airbase (also spelled Qlei-at) during the evening of May 20. Fath al-Islam laid road traps to prevent Lebanese army units from Tripoli from reaching the Nahr al-Bared refugee camp on the outskirts of Tripoli, the scene of fighting between the Lebanese army and Fath al-Islam that resulted in the killing and wounding of tens of Lebanese troops.

  Fath al-Islam was reportedly started with funding and other support from the CIA and Lebanese Phalangist forces to act as a counterweight to Hezbollah. In reality, Fath al-Islam is designed to give the Bush administration, NATO, and the Fouad Siniora government a pretext for granting the U.S. military and NATO access to northern Lebanon and the Kleiaat airbase. Fath al-Islam’s activities are already being blamed on “Al Qaeda” units operating in the north of the country.

• 3. Eliedh | October 28th, 2007 at 11:26 pm

  We could also get some Syrian bases back, they boosted the economy in some regions too.

• 4. Tarek | October 28th, 2007 at 11:38 pm

  Man, I do not think that the U.S or nato are that stupid. They barely can protect their embassy, how about a base in Lebanon! Man, a US bas in Lebanon will serve as a gathering point for all who want to get back from U.S., in addition there are several factors that make this thing impossible:

  1st Lebanon is not a stable country, we just how fati7 islam just was created, there are a lot of Sunni extremists whom unlike shiaa cannot be controlled by a party, they can be employed by whoever wants to use them just as the syrian regime did. These extremists are mostly present in the north, next to 2lay3at! In 2adition, 2lay3at is just next the Syrian border!

  2nd Defending this base will be impossible, even non extremists in the Sunni dominated north will join the extremists in fighting US, we know what is happening in Iraq, and how U.S. is just searching for a way to get out of Iraq!

  3rd There is no state in Lebanon, I think we all agree on that! The only real state is the state of Hizbulla and it is in the south not north! Without state there is no security, and hence a greater danger on the US base.

  4th There is no need for a US base or NATO base, there is Turkey, a NATO member, and israel, a large U.S base.

  5th Americans may seem stupid, but believe me they are not that stupid!

  At last, paul I just read what you wrote, and I think you are way way way far from anything attached to reality.

• 5. Tareq | October 29th, 2007 at 1:33 am

  Eliedh I know you are saying a cynical comment but it doesn’t work very well because the Syrian never boosted our economy they only stole from our economy…The Syrian worker helps the Lebanon economy because they work cheap but they also hurt the economy because they spend ZERO in Lebanon they send all the money to Syria…BUT the Syrian army only hurt the economy they even steal the telephone antenne when they leave in 2005!

• 6. Tareq | October 29th, 2007 at 1:35 am

  I agree with you TareK with K

  This is Syrian propaganda so they can call M14 the agent of America.

  TareQ

• 7. manolito | October 29th, 2007 at 1:35 am

  American bases will bring more Jihadist to lebanon, open teh Syrian borders to fundamentalists to launch their jihad.

• 8. Boutros Abi Sleiman | October 29th, 2007 at 2:03 am

  I agree to make a US Base in LebanoN THAT’S AWESOME!!

• 9. mikel | October 29th, 2007 at 2:37 am

  I think the Americans are really going to need this base,

  Because if Congress passed that law that condems the armenian killing, Turley won’t let the US use their air space and air bases.

  And the US is going to pull out of Iraq in about a year, so they can’t fly their planes from there.

  They need a close air base to ATTACK IRAN.
  And Klei’at is perfect.

• 10. Ali 1559 | October 29th, 2007 at 2:46 am

  American base will bring lebanon down hill .
  Bush the cowboy feeds you a few emotional tales and you believe it. Strange how you guys c with one eye while leaving the other covered !

  The american REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS became the main danger to the world’s peace , they talk about love, and they stab us their knives in our back ( july war) .

  Also , b4 talking about some cow-boy base in north lebanon ( wich will only bring al qaeda to our country) . I suggest you study the war in Lebanon last summer where the most powerfull army in the world failed to finish its battle against HA.

  in fact , if that does hapen(base), ppl ofthis state (lebanon) will suffer, bcz they will no longer have a government that functions within its daily basis action . we will have leadres who failed us from the government and down( IRAQI STYLE)…

  At last, lebanon will never lose .

• 11. Tareq | October 29th, 2007 at 3:02 am

  Mikel, I think Cyprus is much better for USA base…It is more safe like TareK said…I think all the talk is to bring Jihadis to North of Lebanon by Syria.

• 12. Ali 1559 | October 29th, 2007 at 5:35 am

  Mikel

  Kleiaat is perfect?? Are you for real now ? Have you heard of shehab 6 (iranian missle ) ?

  The Shahab-6 is expected to have a range of 5,470-5,500 and 5,632-6,200 kilometers with a 1,000-750-500 kilogram warhead. This range capability will depend on the number of stages used in the launch vehicle and their performance !!

  Kleiaat base will be easly destroyed . Lebanon is not safe for these kind of plans . Think outside the BUN mikel ..

• 13. Ali 1559 | October 29th, 2007 at 5:40 am

  Mikel on my 11

  Ha will be lunching the shehab as well ….
  Now you have to deal with both HA (iran) and the KGB ( putin-russian )…

  Yalla get ready to be left behind after the 08 american election … Do you remember the house speaker nancy pelosi (D) visit to syria ? Allah yisstirkon iza ija democrat bass …

• 14. theCourtFool | October 29th, 2007 at 6:48 am

  If you decide to keep my comment this time; It should be noted concerning the US base in Lebanon is that “Prevention is Better than cure”; scratch your head on that one.

• 15. Tareq | October 29th, 2007 at 7:15 am

  theCourtFool, the USA can still prevent from Cyprus, why it needs to come to Lebanon to prevent?

  It can also go to Jordan they have peace with Israel and more stable than Lebanon…

  Why all of sudden the North of Lebanon is interesting to USA?…Soon the Syria allies in Lebanon will cry over Fateh Islam because they were fighting against the USA base??

• 16. karlos | October 29th, 2007 at 9:30 am

  5th Americans may seem stupid, but believe me they are not that stupid!

  Do not under estimate how stupid America is. You think Hezbollah is crazy??? Look at the mad Christian in the Whitehouse. He will happily turn Lebanon into another Iraq and then look to do the same to Syria.

  Hezbollah may be crazy, but at least they are Lebanese.

• 17. marco K Montreal, Quebec | October 29th, 2007 at 9:53 am

  Hell yeah N!

• 18. Tarek | October 29th, 2007 at 11:28 am

  Tareq with Q :), it’s nice to hear some reason here.

  Karlos, do u think bush is happy with what is happening in Iraq!?

  Do you think the congress will agree on such a crazy plan!?

  Just as Tareq said, this is a propaganda, maybe syrian maybe not, (I think Israel’s) just to push Lebanon into more chaos.

  There is no way, absolutely no way that this will happen.

• 19. arze | October 29th, 2007 at 12:50 pm

  This is so stupid ! so stupid ! Boost the economy ? u want Car bombs all over lebanon ? u want adouble scenario of Irak in lebanon ? and what the hell is that stupid idea ? close the syrian border ? yeah we close it , we fuck our economy and our trade thinking that terrorist will come from syrian border YET we forget we half 400 000 Terrorist in lebanon ! half of them are in the north ! jesus christ ! wake up !!! think ! USE YOUR BRAINS FOR A SECOND

• 20. fad14 | October 29th, 2007 at 1:47 pm

  a US Army base is much better than the Iran base in Dahyeh and the rest of Hizbulla area.

  At least they will not camp in downtown beirut and pretend to be liberating a small pig farm in the south called shebaa and then launch a war and hide under the rat holes.

• 21. Danny | October 29th, 2007 at 4:29 pm

  WHY NOT?? Iran and Syria are supposed to have their mukhabarat and mullahs running around…and we cannot have a Nato base ? Why not?

  People of Lebanon should noy kneel in front of these cowards…

  By the way it takes years to build a base…

• 22. karlos | October 29th, 2007 at 11:58 pm

  Karlos, do u think bush is happy with what is happening in Iraq!?

  Well yes. The politics of divide and conquer are working well for him, despite the loss of innocent lives. The oil contracts are being signed and US companies are getting rich.

  Do you think the congress will agree on such a crazy plan!?

  I have no faith in Congress dong anything sane. Congress fought hard to give Israel time to destroy Lebanon last year. They don’t care for Lebanon. If building a base will serve their (and Israel’s interest) they will do it, despite the disaster it may cause.

  fad14, your logic is broken.
  a US Army base is much better than the Iran base in Dahyeh and the rest of Hizbulla area.

  Hizbullah are Lebanese. They may be crazy, but show me one Lebanese politician tat isn’t crazy!
  America is an Israeli ally that doesn’t care for Lebanon. How easily you forget the crimes they have committed.

• 23. mikel | October 30th, 2007 at 1:27 am

  Ali

  Have you heard of the Patriot Missile that stopped Saddam’s Scuds?

• 24. mikel | October 30th, 2007 at 1:34 am

  Wait a minute,

  Is it an American base or a NATO base? Because they’re too compeletely different things.

• 25. karlos | October 30th, 2007 at 2:36 am

  Tarek,
  I answered your question but it appears I am being censored?

  I haven’t posted here much before. What is the deal?

• 26. Jester | October 30th, 2007 at 5:38 am

  N10452, I truly beleive in the name of your nick stands for, as I too, a member of the Lebanese society, and the Christian community, beleive we need to plan safely ahead. An American Base in Lebanon, would be a magnet for excuses as Militias to enter Lebanon. Hezbollah, is a Lebanese ‘Militia’ in good defence of its Land, I sometimes wish I had their courage. But needs to disarm as an organization to the Lebanese National Army.

  This observer strongly denies an American Base in Lebanon, if truly the United States wanted to help Lebanon, why not have it in Cyprus? It’s European, tab, ok We have Turkey that has an American Base, and Qatar from another, why would you need for a base in between? Their grandiose(d) military might and air supperiority, can’t it dominate, the sky of that area?

  I bet, if I have to, on it. Lebanon, should exist, as a living society, in a playful, and respectable game/life.

  My opinion at least.

• 27. Jester | October 30th, 2007 at 5:46 am

  Ali1559 said:

  American base will bring lebanon down hill .
  Bush the cowboy feeds you a few emotional tales and you believe it. Strange how you guys c with one eye while leaving the other covered !

  It is your religious background that gave you Hamurabi’s idea of ‘an eye for an eye’. Ghandi’s Hundiusm, replies, an eye for an eye, will make the whole blind.

• 28. fad14 | October 30th, 2007 at 7:57 am

  Mr smart #@$ Ali1559 always defends hizbulla

  American base will bring Lebanon down hill ???

  what do you call last years summer war ????
  what do you call 1996 ????
  what do you call every move hizbulla has ever made ????
  what do you call Harb el tahreer and al ilgha of Aoun ????

  UP HILLLLL ????????????????????? or even better do you call it economic development ???????

• 29. Tarek | October 30th, 2007 at 11:35 am

  Karlos, USA is LOOSING the war in Iraq…
  Those contracts you are talking about won’t last long…
  They surely made a fortune, not just from the oil but the the arms deal… But they know that that’s it…
  The British has already packed..
  They all know that it is just a matter of time…

  Besides there is no oil contracts for Lebanon, and a U.S base will not yield an arms deal that can be beneficial to Bush or others like what happened in Iraq.

  And I really don’t think that a base in this situation could be established in the first place in Lebanon, keep away protecting it. In addition, There is no need to harm Lebanon anymore, it is already being harmed and chocked by the Syrians and Iranians, and things will probably go worst as Lebanon is trying to escape the hands of Syria and Iran, they will surely destroy it before letting it go…

  I personally would not mind the existence of a NATO base in Kleiat and having things all smooth but I just can’t see it happening. Time will tell.

• 30. Bart | October 30th, 2007 at 10:10 pm

  I think the US base (if the story is really true) probably has more connection to the Russian naval base built in Syria than with Iran/Iraq.

  The Russians are announcing they plan to return to the Mediterranean, and that base is probably the American response. The ability to conduct strikes from there on Syria or Iran is just a bonus.

  If the base comes together with a major aid package for Lebanon and support in disarming HA, I think it could probably to Lebanon quite a bit of good. A lot also depends on how the population views it, and this is where I would really appreciate your input - would most Lebanese support (if not in action then by feelings) attacks on the base?

• 31. karlos | October 30th, 2007 at 10:25 pm

  That is true Tarek, and I am sure, for Bush and Co. it was all worth it. If they get a chance, they will do the same in Lebanon.

  You are right, there are no oil contracts in Lebanon, but there is a strategic gain in dominating the country. Remember when Condi Rce called the destruction of Lebanese infrastructure, “the birth pangs of a new Middle East”?? Now add to that the sheer joy and happiness of Israel of Lebanon is dominated by the US…. You might as well have an Israeli base in Lebanon.

  There is no need to harm Lebanon anymore.
  I think the Americans and Israelis would disagree.

  Lebanon is trying to escape the hands of Syria and Iran, they will surely destroy it before letting it go…
  I 100% agree. That is exactly why Lebanon as to be smart about how it wrestles free from foreign domination, whether Syrian, Iranian or American.

• 32. Tareq | October 31st, 2007 at 12:42 am

  Bart it is simple all the Syria allies (March will attack the base, all the Anti Syria will not attack the base so 50-50…The FPM of Aoun will not attack the Base now because they have to win important election battle in USJ it will decide the future of the Middle East

• 33. Ali 1559 | October 31st, 2007 at 5:52 am

  Mr mad fad14

  I call it resistance against the occupiers and their TRAITORS ( yourself ) …

  Long live legal resistance .

• 34. Ali 1559 | October 31st, 2007 at 6:09 am

  Jester

  Are you a hindus ?

• 35. Ali 1559 | October 31st, 2007 at 6:14 am

  Mikel

  I sure did … but lemme ask you this ; is there any way to stop the small katyusha rockets ? It can be fired towards a target from a number of positions, changing positions frequently and constantly using new positions without beind detected !! Face reality , sir…

• 36. Tarek | October 31st, 2007 at 4:05 pm

  Ali 1559, I noticed that you call Hizbulla Resistance!
  Well let me tell you another point of view:
  I view Hizbulla as Traitors, just like la7id’s army, excpet that la7id is for israel and Hizbulla is for iran and syria. This is not my point of view only, it that of most of the Lebanese.

  I just wanted you to know this. Cheers!

• 37. karlos | October 31st, 2007 at 11:41 pm

  Tarek,

  There is some truth that “Hizbulla is for iran and syria” but they are far more independent than la7id.

  Also, I think their stand against Israel is commendable.

  Would you rather Israel or Syria? Which human rights abuser would you prefer? Is one worse than the other?

  Personally, I think get the foreign influence out of Lebanon, especially US/Israeli and then work to disarming Hezbollah.

• 38. Tarek | November 1st, 2007 at 12:17 am

  Karlos,

  I just view them as la7id’s people. They are the same as I told you except that the latter are for iran and syria. I prefer to have israel and syria both out of Lebanon. In addition, Syria’s and iran presence is much more savage than that of israel with no way to compare. My father is still suffering from an injury when syria and not israel tried to assassinate him. As Syria occupied Lebanon it worked on deleting and hiding it’s bloody history, but for those who lived it, it can’t be deleted or hidden. I personally think that an armed presence of iran and syria via their agents is much more dangerous than “foreign influence”. I would prefer to end occupation before “fighting influence”.

• 39. mikel | November 1st, 2007 at 1:23 am

  Ali

  You saw how the Israelis were hunting and taking those missile launchers in 06.
  Until you guys ran out.

  Then, you started to launch from homes.

  Just remember,
  in the north not a lot of people are going to let you use their houses.

  And the old-school Katiuchas won’t do much damage against a well reinforced base, sir.

  …Legal resistance…. yeah right.

• 40. karlos | November 1st, 2007 at 7:33 pm

  Tarek,

  Syria’s domination of Lebanon was deep within the populace. Israel just destroys infrastructure, repeatedly. Also, don’t make light of Israel’s occupation of Lebanon.

  Unfortunately, HA is as Lebanese as the Army, so a balance needs to be found. At least we seem to agree on what needs to be achieved, but we differ on the way to achieve it.

  I still think ending foreign interference will make ending occupation easier. That is because I think there is still some rationality in HA’s mind.

  I am glad your father survived an attempt on his life.

• 41. Tarek | November 1st, 2007 at 9:05 pm

  Karlos,

  I respect your opinion. I don’t want to go into this argument, but I KNOW, I don’t believe, I KNOW that HA is my enemy at least, just as I KNOW that someday I will die. HA may not be your enemy, but it’s my enemy for sure. I am in this war, and I will stay in it for what I believe is right.

• 42. Ali 1559 | November 2nd, 2007 at 1:10 am

  Mikel

  HA 7arab la ekhir nhar ya mikel wel katucha ma bado luncher rakiz.. 3yne katucha bado TIMER , ya3ne 3yir w trok and then 3yir (set-up) bi gher ma7al w drob , ya3ne 2 ppl are good enough for the job..

  From homes??!!! Eh mabala ken fi rajmet katucha bil chiye7 ma7al ma nzala bineye 3la ness ma khasson …

  At last, a 9mm m16 bullet is good enough to keep the whole reinforced base UNDER FIRE.

  Thanks buddy , still eating tacozzz?

• 43. Lebanese fil mahjar | November 2nd, 2007 at 7:43 pm

  Would the US allow ‘7ajez jeich’ la lebanon 3a arda?

  Economy?!?!? we can improve the economy without it!!!
  Don’t ask the Syrian to leave and ask the American to come…remember Bashir!

  Nobody will ever love you if they have nothing in it for them!

• 44. mikel | November 3rd, 2007 at 9:19 pm

  Ali

  they were bombing people who had nothing to do with it in Chiyeh, just like you were bombing innocent people in Haifa…

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