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  • 1. jad | May 23rd, 2008 at 9:10 am

    nice map but if any one knows the distribution by sect in some critical area like jezzine ,marje3youn hassbaya,baabda, jbeil, zahle
    where the size of the shi3a voice would tip the balance
    IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFULL THANKS A LOT

  • 2. Omar | May 23rd, 2008 at 9:51 am

    Big thanks to GMA, i didnt care who will be the winner in 2009 elections, … almost 81% of the christians DP will be elected by the christians …

  • 3. jad | May 23rd, 2008 at 10:40 am

    ya omar 3a shou merci ya habile
    WAKE UPPPPPPP BECAUSE OF UR FROG WE LOST :
    2 CHRISTIAN DP IN B3ALBAK
    1CHRISTIANDP IN 7ASSBAYA
    1CHRISTIANDP IN BATROUN
    2 CHRISTIAN DP IN 3AKKAR
    KELLO TA Y7AFIZ 3ALA SAYTARIT 7EZB ALLA IN B3ALBAK HERML AND HASBAYA MARJE3YOUN
    WAKE UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP OMAR A NEW MEMBER OF THE CLAN

  • 4. Jad Hachem | May 23rd, 2008 at 11:36 am

    Merci tkir ya General Aoun!!!
    You where right all along. I finally feel that we Christians now have a future in Lebanon.
    My family and I owe you an apology. We feel for the lies, but now promise to you that we will support you all the way.

  • 5. Rodge | May 23rd, 2008 at 11:51 am

    The map shown here proves without any doubt that what happened in Qatar, mainly concerning the electoral law, was nothing more than sharing authority and power, especially in Beirut.

    I join jad here and I support the questions he raised, and I add, why Aoun only cares about the christian seats in Beirut?? the answer is easy, because it is a matter of challenge, he only wanted to defy Hariri.
    What really happened, and I don’t know how people are so naive to believe that Aoun or anyone else was defending the Christians rights there. They are only trying to earn more seats within the conflict between 2 projects for Lebanon, and they are using us as fuel in this conflict.
    If Aoun really cares, I will say as jad said, why he didn’t care for Hasbaya-Marjeyoun, for Baalbeck-Hermel etc…

    And I will add, ok now they only agreed on the distribution, what about the other issues within the electoral law? what about the system of voting? what about the Lebanese abroad, and i’m one of them, will they be able to vote and how? what about the 2013 elections? are we gonna wait for the next armed conflict to agree on a new law, or maybe we’ll wait to see what will be the benefit of each party??

    Aounists, I urge please don’t listen to ur own media reports and believe it is the truth, just try to see a little bit futher, now they all believed that the Emir of Qatar thanked Aoun especially and told him he saved the day, some of the Aounies even put it on their facebok and msn welcome sentence.
    The problem with Aounists is that despite all the contradictions, first between Aoun own statements, and second between some of his statement and performance, they are still believeing that he is the savior, and he is the straight man, the hero etc…
    Please, what people did in the Christians areas in 2005 was wrong and it contributed in the situation we’ve been in for the last 2 years or so, so please don’t make the same mistake and think more this time, don’t believe those who are claiming that they want the welfare of Christians, because they are the ones who are killing every hope we still have.

  • 6. LF :D :D | May 23rd, 2008 at 11:55 am

    inno leh mi3tibreen 7alkon u lost inno ma sar fi sot lal masi7iyi ahla2 mish mitil min abil

    isa mi3tibreen 7alkon islam eh yimkin n2azayto ahh ehh sorto islam min wa2ta am kinti badkon tilgho jim3a il 3azimi sorito lazim trou7o 3al 7aj 2al bi 2oulo 3an 7alon masi7iyi

  • 7. Fuziyad | May 23rd, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    Rodge…The hizb puppets made it clear more than once that this electoral law was only valid for 2009, then we will head to the one circonscription with proportionality rule…

    This was allready agreed by the the 2 main christian blocks through the voices of Hassan Yacoub and Abbas el Hachem that I have been seeing and hearing more than usual lately…why?? are they the “brains” of the christian opposition??

  • 8. Rodge | May 23rd, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    Fuziyad,

    U’re right, and I was asking the same question about those 2 deputies, one was taken there by Elie Skaff, and the other by Aoun, and in the end they said we want the Christians rights.

    Lies lies lies, but the problem is that we have some people who are still believing, despite the fact that no achievement can be put on Aoun’s political portfolio, maninly in the issues related to Christians.

  • 9. Rodge | May 23rd, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    For the Aounists,

    Did you ever ask urself why the 8 March people were so in hurry to agree on the 1960s electoral law? they even put it as a condition to elect Sleiman as president.
    Did you ask why this demand came frist from Syria?
    Did you ask urself why Nabih Berri for example, who does not care about Christians rights, was one of the most people demanding this law?
    Did you ask urself why we as Lebanese can’t negociate a modern law, and why we need to go back 48 years to search for a law despite the many demographic changes occured, that were not in any way positive for the Christians?
    Did you ask urself why we need more Aounist deputies?? I think none of them worked well in the last 3 years. Why do we need a deputy if he doesn’t work for our sake?

    If Aoun or anyone else is really concerned about the Christians, there are so many things to be done other than bring more deputies. Lebanese youth, and mainly Christians, need a peaceful, prosper, and stable country, and I didn’t see Aoun contributing in this, in fact he did the contrary, since he helped in destabilizing the country, in destroying the economy, and killing all the hopes in peace.

  • 10. jad | May 23rd, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    khaye rodge all lebanon needs is people like u and millions other how r clear in their thinkin to come back to lebanon and help savin it from the hands of HA and buildin it back again
    ONLY A DREAM

    ANW I STILL DIDNT GET ANY ANSWER FROM THE CLAN ABOUT MY QUESTIONS KNOWIN THAT THIS DEAL THAT AOUN REFUSED WOULDVE SAVED CHRISTIAN DP NOT ONLY FROM THE HANDS OF HA BUT FROM FM 2

  • 11. Fou2ad | May 23rd, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    AOUN BADDO EL KIRSE!!!

  • 12. odessa | May 23rd, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    lok lah tjannenouneh !!!!!!!!
    plzzzzzz
    ma 3ambefham 3laykoun shou bedkoun ???????
    w ai********** !!!!
    sou el mich 3ejebkoun ?
    hela2 saro el massihieh fiyoun yentkhbo aktar nouweb !!!
    w eza ento m2amnin eno michel aoun battal bemassil el aktariyeh ya3neh bel 2009 betsiro ento el betmasslo el aktarieh el massihieh w se3eta eza fikoun teshteghlo 3a 2enoun entikhabet ahsan we will be thanksful.
    w ba3den ya “houmeit elamn el massiheh”
    ya 3aibishoum 3laykoun !!! mnih el fi el general rejel byekhod ha2na.
    ba3den
    jad & rodge
    ba3rif eno SG ma hada leksho bess houeh kamen kein bel dawha w modeh 3a arrarat.
    hel2adeh el GMA 3emelkoun 3e2dit no2ss ?!?!

  • 13. Fou2ad | May 23rd, 2008 at 3:08 pm

    W3OU YA 3AWNIYE! AOUN BADDO ELKIRSE!!

  • 14. jad | May 23rd, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    WELCOME ODESSA MY POINT WAS THAT SG WAS ABLE TO GET FROM HIS FM 7OULAFA

    1-THE DIVISION OF 3AKKAR WICH WOULDVE HELPED THE CHRISTIAN REPRESENTATION THERE

    2-THE TRANSFER OF THE MARONITE SEAT FROM TRABLOUS TO BATROUN

    3- GIVIN BACK WLED 2EL ACHRAFIEH THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE FOR 6 (NOT5)

    BUT AOUN COULDNT GET HA TO

    1- SPLIT BAALBAK HERMEL FOR A BETTER CHRISTIAN RAPRESENTATION

    2- THE TRANSFER OF DEIR EL AHMAR MARONITE SEAT TO VOTE WITH BCHARRE

    3- SPLIT THE 7ASBAYA GAZA FROM MARJE3YOUN

    SO THE DEAL FAILED BECAUSE OF UR IDOLE
    LEARN MORE BEFORE BEIN AGRESSIVE 3AL FADE AND JUGIN PEOPLE I GUESSE RODGE SPOKE CLEARLY HIS VERY LOGICAL POINT OF VIEW NOT SG’S SO USHOULD AT LEAST RESPECT HIM AND UR SELF AND GIVE HIM A MUCH PRAGMATIQUE ANSWER NOT THE USUAL PETIT JARDIN STUFF AOUN 2A2WA MEN GEAGEA NANANA WAKE UPPPPPPPPP

  • 15. Jester theFool | May 23rd, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    I hate taking sides, being a follower is lame, and shallow.

    But after 2 years of crap from All our leaders, Aoun did come out as the Christian Hero here.

    Trust me, I despise him personally, but he did make the right moves, all along… and I remember criticizing my Aounist friends too. Well, I guess you have to give credit, when credit is due

  • 16. Fou2ad | May 23rd, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    walla ya jad hal khabariye 7ilwe
    2el geagea houwe yalle 3imil el 2anoun el jdid mish aoun
    weyn bitjeeb hal khabariyet?
    P.S:ba3dak mzakkar wa2ta kinit tdallak t2oul 2inno aoun baddo el kirsé w2inno fét bimi7war souré irané kouré cubé kirmél el kirsé? lle 3am bit2oulo halla2 ma byifri2.

  • 17. Elie.F. | May 23rd, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    i don’t care who did what is best for the christians, and who is to be blamed not to join Deir el ahmar with bsharre, or to split hasbayya from marje3youn.
    if i want to take it as it is, i would say 8 March succeeded in what they wanted, they took the 11 ministers, they took their electoral law, and they brought the president that 14 march never wanted,and still the best to come( 14 march will approve on the new bayen wizari which will also protect the weapons of Hizballa as a resistance, i’ll remind you later),
    but what i care about is a little time for peace and a lot of brains for us all to know that we are called by the leaders as NUMBERS, 14 march you fooled us and betrayed us, w kiss ikht el se3a when we stood up to shout for lahhoud (fill) and signed the petition, don’t you know march 14 leaders that michel sleiman is a copy of Lahhoud that u wanted us to go to b3abda and kick him out? fukc our leaders.

  • 18. Elie.F. | May 23rd, 2008 at 5:58 pm

    FUZIYAD,
    Do you remember when i asked you about what would be your reaction if after all the blame to the army by 14 MARCH leaders and still insisted on electing SLEIMAN in DOHA?
    My friend still best to come: hizballa and Amal today announced that they will support the name of Sa3d as the prime minister in ( TAZKIEH), just not to get surprised later, 14 March so-called leaders will support the new Bayen Wizari supporting the weapons of Hizballa as a resistance, and to tell you from now, what will be left of 14 March next year will also re-elect NABIH BERRI as the parliament cheif.
    2OOM FOUT NEM W SEER 7LAM INNO BALADNA SARIT BALAD, HAY BALAD LA2 MOUSH BALAD HAY 2ORTIT 3ALAM MA2SOOMIN

  • 19. Elie.F. | May 23rd, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    AND THE BEST IS THAT 14 MARCH LIERS (ah sorry i meant leaders) WERE TRYING TO CONVINCE US THAT THEY WANTED TO PROTECT THE LAW AND THE CONSTITUTION , DID ANYONE KNOW THAT MICHEL SLEIMAN IS GOING TO BE ELECTED WITHOUT ANY MODIFICATION FOR THE ARTICLE 49 IN THE CONSTITUTION? THIS MEANS IS THAT IF THE MOO3ARADA BECOMES THE MAJORITY NEXT YEAR THEY CAN PROPOSE TA3N IN THE ELECTION OF THE PRESIDENT SLEIMAN AND WHO KNOWS MAYBE GENERAL AOUN WILL BECOME ATHE PRESIDENT NEXT YEAR ,SURE WITH THE APPROVAL OF MICHEL SLEIMAN HIMSELF.
    2OOM FOUT NEM W SEER 7LAM INNO OUR LEADERS BI7IBBO EL BALAD.

  • 20. jad | May 23rd, 2008 at 6:29 pm

    SG BTA7AFOZ DONT WANNA LOOK LIKE IMDEFENDIN HIM BUT THAT WAS BECAUSE HE WANTED 2 RESPECT THE DESTOUR SO U CANT PUT ALL THE LIERS ON THE SAME LEVEL
    CHEEEEEEEEEEERSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  • 21. Elie.F. | May 23rd, 2008 at 6:52 pm

    JAD
    YES MAYBE YOU ARE RIGHT , BUT WHY BI TA7AFFOZ AND HE WILL SEND HIS DEPUTEES TO ELECT MICHEL SLEIMAN?
    YALLA KHALLEENA

  • 22. jad | May 23rd, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    BA3D MA 2ARARO EL OUWET EZA BADOUN YNTKHBOU 2AMMA WAR2A BAYDA BASS U KNOW KHAYE BYKHEFFO MA TTOTLA3 BE RASSOUN EZZA 7ATTO WAR2A BAYDA
    KESSSSSAKKKKKK

  • 23. Fuziyad | May 23rd, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    Elie F, march 14 capitulated nothing less…but let’s be fair, the other choice was war…baddak ta3ref chou baddak…

  • 24. Elie.F. | May 24th, 2008 at 1:57 am

    JAD,
    Let’s hope they will not vote,but they r promised with 2 ministers do u think they won’t?
    FUZIYAD,
    i never wanted war,but did u have any doubt that Hizballa can set the pace he wants on the street? but before we know that, the 14 march leaders should have seen this well and they had to really knew what they wanted and what they r capablle of from the beginning,

    yalla bi so7itkon ya shabeb

  • 25. Liberty Front | May 24th, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    Hey all , I just want to congratulate for the victory for all Lebanon !
    Stop moning cuz Lebanon won !This summer we’ll have FUN !
    Only there’s Hezballa’s and Palestinians’ issues , have to be solved , although they r big issues!
    And LF-ers I guess you realize now that time has come to leave Ja3ja3 ,cuz he guided u to wrong places .If we want to follow Sheikh Bashir , we have to be independents , neither with the shi3as nor with the sunnis.
    And aounists you need to stick to ur origin , and not follow the shi3as , and I guess Aoun,Tashnak,and their allies did a good job in Qatar by defending the christians right ! GOOD JOB GUYS !
    LF is an ideology created by Sheikh Bashir Gemayel , and today , only Fouad Abou Nader,Pussy Ashkar,Asouad,Hindi ,and few other ppl are working right !
    Ja3ja3 , I am an ex LF member , and I’m very disappointed with what u’ve done !
    La daraje enno bfaddel 3on 3leik , eh la2enno houwe defa3 3an 72ou2 el masi7ie , ma3 enno majnoun shwye!
    I apologize for all the pro-FPMers whom I insulted or considered my ennemy , at the end we all live in this great country where our ancestors didn’t want us to split into 2 !
    Lebanon=10452,strong army,great economics,great tourism,educated plp, 50%-50% christian-muslims, and peace with Israel,la2enno t3ebna kel marra nfout bi 7arb deddon wbyekhrab el balad !And peace with Syria !

  • 26. Liberty Front | May 24th, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    Lebanese forces=LF
    Liberty Front =LF
    hehe

  • 27. Liberty Front | May 24th, 2008 at 4:24 pm

    ou badde oul shaghle zghire la fouad ou odesa ,ento w3oouu ba2a ,boukra ra7 yentekhbo michel sleiman ra2is , w ba3dkon 3am t2oulo enno 3on baddo el kerse ! tfuu 3a hek mante2 3an jed…
    ento serto brainwashed men l future TV !
    Ento masi7iye 3anna a2wa batrak bel manta2a , el massi7iye balashet men 3anna , 3aib nfakker be eslemiye aktar men el eslem !
    3on masi7e bel niheye , w lezem nsem7o , 7atta law ghelet !
    w aounists , lezem tsem7o docteur ja3ja3 laenno el massi7iye hie din el ghofran wel tasemo7 !

  • 28. Liberty Front | May 24th, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    ja3ja3 2al ktir eshia , bas ma tabba2 shi , that’s why im disapointed with him and his deputies.
    and im from ashrafieh , and il vote for mas3oud el ashkar in da elections next year !
    We are the real christians !We are the real bashirists ! we are the guards of the cedar !

  • 29. Liberty Front | May 24th, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    LF

  • 30. wassim | May 25th, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    liberty front eza ento maw2a3kon objectif wala neutral? cz fi fare2 kbir ben hal kelmten!! eza kento neutral ya3ne betsebo l 2 7ata law 3arfin eno 7ada ma3o 7a2 aktar men l tene! eza kento objectif ma betkouno ma3 7ada bas lama ykoun 7ada 3emel sa7 bet2oulo sa7 w lama yghalet bet2oulo ghalat min ma ken ykoun!! so 7abet everything u said bas tfeja2et lama elet eno aounists dont follow shi3a… eno is that objectif what u said?? eno kel shi sar bel DO7A w hezeb ala w amal keno de3min l tayar lal ekher bi kel shi ta yraje3 72ou2 l masi7iye law 3ala 7sebon, menkoun ne7na le72inon?? no my brother we are real allies!! we help them and they help us! ma 7ada tebe3 la 7ada!



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