Who would have thought ANYONE would dare insult the patriarch the way Sleiman Frangieh did ?? the way Michel Aoun and his dogs did in the past few weeks ??
We dont agree as Christian political parties, its ok.
We fight during elections and are divided as Christians, its also ok ( to a certain extent).
But Insulting the head of our Church and calling him names ??
I believe the patriarch has played the most crucial role for us Christians in the years of Syrian hegemony, he kept us alive, he kept fighting for our Cause silently but firmly. He never missed an opinion to ask for our rights and Lebanon’s rights, he fought against tons of pressures and remained above all.
We failed him since 2005, our leaders misled him, lied to him, dissapointed him .. His only mistakes that that he trusted some of them …
If i were him, i would have kicked out of the Church Sleiman Frangieh once and for all ..
He doesnt deserve to be a maronite, he only deserves to be behind bars or in some shit hole ..
May God bless our Patriarch, may he keep him safe and wise …
You have our support, you will always do.
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1. Tareq | January 18th, 2008 at 12:50 am
What to expect from Mafia lord like Franjieh?
Wahad 2azaar, his father Tony Franjieh was 2az3ar and his grandfather the “President” was a criminal shot people in church and run to Syria.
Why to wonder that LF-Marada battle was bloody, the Franjieh Mafia are worst criminals in the Christian area.
It is not strange that Franjieh is friend of Aoun, they call the LF ze3ran but they are the leaders worse than any fighter in LF did in the war.
Go to Hell Sleiman Franjieh, take the Masna3 road it is closer.
2. Bachir 7ay Fina | January 18th, 2008 at 1:04 am
a7des el 1989 ma ra7 tetkarar w kouno akidin law badda tenzal el sama 3ala el ard ma 7ada bi med ido ba2a 3ala el batrak.
wel zalamé li byet3antar metel franjieh heda kaleb bi 3awé ma byestarjé ya3mil chi.
sleimen franjieh w zelmo keloun byeswo sermeyé, chatrin yeghedro mech aktar. M3rouf sleimen franjieh eno bi keb 7aké w m2anit ma byestarjé ya3mil chi.
lerjel mech bel 7aké
3. Tarek | January 18th, 2008 at 1:26 am
If one man deserves bowing to in this country, it is Patriarch Sfeir.
4. Delta | January 18th, 2008 at 4:00 am
wlak habibna hayda habib libnen alla yohfazo
5. Delta | January 18th, 2008 at 4:01 am
jabal ma bithizo rihhet mgerir tal3a min zgharta so called frangiyeh how old is taht guy by the way 40 ?
6. fad14 | January 18th, 2008 at 7:07 am
you need a new Batrak guys: Mar Nasrallah Michael Franjieh, no seriously i think Aoun/Hizbulla want 1/3 of the church too.
Anywhere they can block anything, they want it.
7. Rodge | January 18th, 2008 at 9:33 am
what a pitty those 2 scum bags Frangieh/Aoun, really what a pitty.
Anyway, what they are doing, along with Berri and his NBN channel, proves how much they are bankrupt in Politics.
They tried everything to destroy the Christian community, but they failed, so they are trying a new method, of course planned by the Syrians themselves.
Let them talk, the history will curse them.
But what’s dangerous here, is how much they can play with the people’s heads, how their followers turned also against the Patriarche, and they call themselves Christians.
I urge all the FPMers and the Maradas and their friends to show their support to the Patriarche, diregarding what their Political views are, at least you should know how to follow you leader without being under his blind influence, you should knwo how to keep on respecting our spiritual leaders.
Patriarche Sfeir, we love you.
8. Rodge | January 18th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
The Patriarche said yesterday, “God forgive them because they don’t know what they are doing”.
In fact they know very well, and that for, God should never forgive them, they should go straight to hell
9. Toufic | January 18th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Our beloved Patriarch deserves our strong support in those difficult times.
Go to hell sleimane frangieh.
10. nora | January 18th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
wlik aaaaaaaaaaakhhhhhhhh… ma 3am efham lei terkinoun “y3awwo” …
11. GARY | January 18th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
I doubt that if we test the IQ of frangieh he will get more than 40 which is a certified idiot,
12. Nayek Oun | January 18th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
May God bless our Patriarch. We love you and as Hakim said, you are not alone. We will merge on Lebanon from all over the world in defense of our great Patriarch.
13. Arze | January 18th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
What frengieh said days ago , is what lots and lots of christians are saying in their houses or between friends
The patriarch is supposed to be a Spiritual person just like the pope, not involved in politics , he should a man praying for us (but prayers is not important for u anymore) he should the spiritual consultant of every maronite in the world
Have u ever seen the pope taking position in a political conflict? he always pray , help the poor , go to contries to convince them about the church principles , he talks about basic things that attack the church , like abortion for example etc…. but NEVER talked about politics…
But unfortunely u guys got the patriarch not only involved in politics but also take a stand again Aoun and frenjieh .
The aounist and the marada think and are sure that 14t march , including hariri and geagea and Jumblat do want to implement the palestinians …
Which is funny because thousands of LF led by sheikh bachir died fighting against this cause…
A cause that was always followed by jumblat and the sunna…ironically now supported by the new leader of the LF
The patriarch should have never been involved politaclly or take a stand against the other christians followers….
God never gave him this assignement and he will never give to any person who serves God in his temple …
“Give Ceasar what is for ceasar , and give What is God to God ”
JEsus said so and he wasnt wrong…Politics and God DOES NOT BLEND !
14. ghass | January 18th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
walla walla ya franjyeh ekhertak 2irbit..
15. ghass | January 18th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
bass tmout ya franjyeh batrakna badou yebzou2 3layk ya kalb souri
16. ghass | January 18th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
bass tmout ya souri batrakna badou yebzou 3layk
17. tareq | January 18th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Dear Arze what a nice written speech that accuse the victim and ignore what the criminal did…BRAVO
Your Leader GMA said the Patriarch is ordinary citizen he can have his opinion in politics…so maybe you should go to Rabieh and knock on the door and say I am FPM member I want to talk to GMA to tell him he is wrong because the Patriarch should not express political opinion…I think GMA is very democratic he will welcome you in his salon and apologize for making a mistake.
18. Danny | January 18th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Arze,
I have been reading your incoherent babble for a while now. You seem to be a “stoner”…Was it OK with your Orangebutt leader when the Batrak took the lead in asking the Syrians to leave in 2000? Where was your fearless leader when after bombing your Christian civilians for months, he ran off in a French submarine with over $40 m of people’s money.
Where was he? He never worked a day in France, yet him and his family, and dumbass traitor soldier friends, Abu jamra and al, lived in palaces…
So Shut up and have some self respect towards your Church and its leaders. In your pea brain thinking you are swearing at the Batrak, but you are swearing at yourself. Also, do not speak for the Pope my boy…The Pope (John Paul II fought against and was instrumental in the collapse of communism. So go home and keep quiet!!
19. johnny | January 18th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
“The patriarch should have never been involved politaclly or take a stand against the other christians followers….
God never gave him this assignement and he will never give to any person who serves God in his temple…”
I agree with this… But there is no justification for what Franjieh said even in politics, let alone directed to a religious figure. Shame…
20. Bachir 7ay Fina | January 18th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
johnny
ya 7abibé lawla ma lbatrak ytali3 bayen senit el 2000 ma kenit ntala2it masarit el 2este2lel.w ma baddak yé yetdakhal bel siyesé lal batrak kif hay???
lawla ma lbatrak y3arid el woujoud el souré kenna sorna cha2fé men souria.
ba3dein leich ma badak el batrak yet3ata siyésé w hassan nasrallah 7alifak w 7abib 2lbak.
chi marra 2oul l7a2i2a w ma ba2a tkhabbo hablanet 3awn. kell marra bet bayyin sakhif la 7atta tghatté 7amranet 3awn.
ne7na lama l7akim yghalit ne7na mnente2do bass ento trainet w se7bé
21. paul | January 18th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
7aje ba2a t3allmo lbatrak chou lezim ya3mil chaghle wad7a,lau miche 3a khatt 8 azar kinto halla2 3ayyantou wakil 3an allah,wkinto awwal min talab inno ysir l baba rou7o ljimo franjieh 7alifkoun abel ma tithajjamo 3a awwal wa7ad talab khilel l2i7tilel soureh braj3it aoun 3a libnen.
22. Tony | January 18th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
http://hs.facebook.com/group.php?gid=18609840555
Another group about the Batrak
Such a disgrace these people call them self christians
23. ghass | January 18th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
johnny sid bouzak
24. ghass | January 18th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
nehna chabek alhourie,,kil wahad badou ygib sirit batrakna bil3atel badna nsedelou bouzou w badna nsafi..ntibhou 3ala halkou.
…we are back…..
25. ghass | January 18th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
franjye w marada taba3ak kleb gerbene
inta wahad sgir w ma rah tsir kbir
inta kalb zgertewe mitl lwewe
inta wahad mich marouni inta grben souri
kiss ikhtak 3ala ekht souria
26. sniper | January 18th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Arze ya hable, we read well into your agenda.
What the Patriarch have gotten into isn’t politics, it is merely a matter of standing up to what is right vs what is evil. Politics isn’t the assasination of 14 march members, it isn’t the occupation of HA militants of west beirut and the rest of the south, it isn’t drafting FPM members to training camps to turn them on their brothers and sisters. Politics in your understanding equate to an open-ended slow death of the church amongst many things, it equate to turning brothers against each other.
It is time the maronites started flocking back to the home land.
In the name of the father, the son, and the wholly spirit.
27. Delta | January 18th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
arze tfouuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 3lek
28. Delta | January 18th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
daya3o wa2toun yredo 3lek al sakitou 3an il zoulmi zalimoun tfehhhhhhhhhhhh wlak tfeh wle stehe
29. Delta | January 18th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
inta wil sirmeye bitakhet wahad wsalle wihde tfeh 3lek wleeeeeeeeeee
30. Tarek | January 18th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
2al haidi arze 2al … haidi malfofeh!
31. Toufic | January 18th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Arze ya hable,
The former maronite patriarchs and our current beloved Patriarch have had historically a say in Lebanese politics and this not you or this stupid frangieh that will forbid him from giving his opinion.
shame on you arze and frangieh
32. LF Forever | January 18th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Arze Arnabita!
Tell me when the Patriarc talk politics? I wish he will do. Than it is clear at least and we will follow as usual and beleive me you will follow too.
33. ghass | January 18th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
arze..we are working now to know from where u are and we want to catch u..take care..
…
aoun ..hassouna..frangyeh..
mahabil 3
si3den tarazan his frangyeh..the same
34. wassim | January 19th, 2008 at 1:44 am
hahaha da7akne hayda ghass 2al we are working to know frow where u are to catch u hahahha! wlekaber 3a2lak mfakar 7alak ba3dkon metel iyem zamen militia w feltene? la2 3ayne fi min yrabikon hal mara
35. Nayek Oun | January 19th, 2008 at 5:19 am
Arze,
As a former Aounist, this is my letter to you. Believe my, it took me a long time to figure that Aoun is dispensable, selfish and ignorant to our cause. How does he explain to those that supported him in 1989 his current position. His alliance with the dirty bastard Nasrallah, the dirtier bastard Franjieh and the dirtiest bastard We’am Wahab is inexcusable. We fought along Aoun and lost dear ones (mass graves in Baabda) against the mentioned Syrian Puppets. Aoun sold our cause for his own personal interest to become a president. Whereas, the Hakeem stood fast by his beliefs throughout history. Wake up and smell the coffee, Hakeem is going to dominate the Christian scene in Lebanon. I was man enough to leave the sick man know as Aoun for a hero called Samir Geagea. Don’t miss out, make your move.
36. ghass | January 19th, 2008 at 7:18 am
ya wassim bass rege3 aoun 3ala lebnen khereb lebnen..
ouwet nehna lebnen..nehna kil chi
yalli mich 3egbo yetrok lebnen.
lebnen badou rgel ma badou bsaynet.
37. Ali1559 beirut | January 19th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Wassim
Ana khiyfen
loooooooool ….
38. wassim | January 19th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
hahah w ana aktar menak ya Ali1559
39. Arze | January 19th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Too much replies yet little time !
im gonna reply to ghass
u can find me , but when u do im gonna get you …so hard ur gonna curse the second u wrote this comment
The rest ! Aoun is not my leader , Christ is my only leader..
Concerning what the patriarch did on 2000 , u really think the patriarch would have called for this if it wasnt from the americans
knowing they will force the syrians years after that ? Americans plans 50 years ahead…so believe if the power was in the hand of The patriarch , he would asked geagea to be released from jail when he was there , and Aoun to come back and would have asked the syrians to leave so please
All what i was saying ….is that i understand what the opposition did , and what frenjieh said ….im not justifying it ! i understand it ! The patriarch is a man of GOD to serve Other man and preach his word to the sinners which is everyone on this blog including me !
God never assigned the patriarch to Say if Geagea is right or Aoun is wrong ! Because when ghass will die , and i will die and n10452 will die , and go to judgement day , God wont say Because ur aounist ur going to hell and because ur Geageist ur going twice to hell to ! He will judge u on ur faith and on what u gave on this good earth !
And here comes the role of the church to teach and preach us , to reach perfection in heaven ! not Perfection in POLITICS !
I forgive all who threats me
or disrespected my comment ! but still waiting for u ghass
40. philo | January 19th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
thks N for not putting my comment it shows how much there is freedom on this blod
41. Tareq | January 19th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Arze I’m sorry you’re missing the point… You can not “understand” what Franjieh did you can agree with it or you can condemn it…I don’t see you or any Aouni leader condemn it…Even MP Abu Naser he say he “feel sorry” you can not feel sorry in politics you have to take a choice!
The Church is not interfering in small detail of politics it is telling its choice for the future of Lebanon…The church cannot live in Nasrallah Islamic state or Syria Baath state, what you want them to do?…Stay silent because they are in religion??…If Bin Laden can make USA like the Taliban regime you think the American church will sit silent?
If you say you are Christian you should worry about your church first before politics like the Shi3a they do with Nasrallah and the Sunnis they do with the Mufti…
Good luck
42. Abou Hatab | January 19th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Labayka Ya Nasrallah;)
43. Michele | January 20th, 2008 at 7:44 am
Tarek, it’s funny that u mentioned the killing in the church coz my uncle was one of his victim and he was a priest.
As for the supporters of Frangieh and Aoun, i’m shocked to find out that they are ok in attacking the Patriarch.
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