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How to think like an 8th of March supporter ?

Posted by N10452

The level of brainwashing 8th of March supporters have reached is honestly alarming …

Everytime i have an argument with either an FPMer or a Marada or a Pro-Hezbollah, i just cannot believe what i am hearing … the way they analyze things, its like they are programmed to get to the same result by using the lamest arguments ..

I am thinking of helping them out by creating a small diagram they can print and keep in their wallets so that they can refrain from thinking at all ..

1st Argument : Why dont you want the tribunal ?

The government is bad because it will violate Lebanon’s sovereignty.
Americans are controlling it and it will lead to more divisions and a civil war.

But Syria has been invading us for years, and it has a hand in killing a Lebanese prime minister ?
Dont you want to find who killed him ? and Its the UN who did the tribunal not Americans ..

There are no proofs that Syria killed Hariri, i am sure the Israelis have a hand in it, Syrians helped us against Israel for years, they were here to support the Resistance to free the South. We should not be ennemies with them. We should all rally against the Zionist ennemy.

You have two international prosecutors who wrotes reports with tons of evidences accusing Syria .. and you have public threats and recordings from Syrian officials to Lebanese politicians .. But lets suppose its not Syria .. let the tribunal judge then .. i still dont get why you are against it ?

Hariri is surely paying Brammertz and i cannot trust the UN, Americans and Hariri are paying them money to accuse Syria. Added to that, Israelis & Americans have gps satellites everywhere, i am sure they know who killed him ? Why dont they tell us ?

They cannot interfer with such matters of national security, they supported an international tribunal with internationally recognized judges because you guys refused to vote for it in the Lebanese parliament.

We did not refuse to vote, we had several modifications that 14th of March refused.

But you never showed those points to anyone, not even the UN, how can we refuse inexistant points ?

We do not trust the 14M and the UN works for the Americans ..

Fine so why didnt you vote for it inside the Lebanese parliament where there are no Americans and where one of your leaders Berri is in control ?

The Tribunal is not important now, we need to have the national reconcilation government before anything.

Is it so hard to just vote for it instead of fighting it for more than a year now ?? Dont u think justice must prevail ??

We have priorities, plus justice must prevail also concerning the July war and who is financing those terrorists in Nahr el Bared now ..

Nasrallah asked for making a committe to investigate the war then 8March ministers resigned and you considered the government illegal ..how do you want us to make a committe ??

Aoun asked for an investigation team on the Fat7 el Islam case, Hariri agreed to vote for it once Berri opens the parliament again ??

Dont you see you are contradicting yourself here ??

This government is fake and illegal and we cannot trust it, if we dont have a national reconciliation gov, we will keep on protesting and we will keep our weapons.

But this government was democratically elected and you were part of it and approved it at first.
14M are a group that betrayed us during the Israeli war and are working for the Americans and for Fietlman.

But you started a war without letting your government know .. dont you think that was wrong ?

( Note that i am still on the defensive, just arguing his points, but now is the time where he explodes and after failing to answer all questions, turns into emotional replies to close the discussion)

Ba3ed na2iss Hezbollah yi2ello lal Sanioura chou baddo ya3mil !! 2awou la Fatfat barke bye3zemoun 3ala fenjen chay … Sarlkoun 20 sene 3am tesser2ouna ..Badna 7koume ndeefe khallasna ba2a … Ne7na el Aktariyye woul General 3ando 77.5 % min el massi7iyye wou 3am bitchartouna 3ala 19-11 2amma la2 … badna nsa22ita kella hal 7koume .. 7koumit abou nee3 alwa2 ..

I can guarantee you that in 99.9% of the cases, you will reach the same conclusion with any of those supporters, and you will encounter the same arguments .. Next topic will be on the HA weapons .. that promises to be funny even though it saddens me to see so many of our youth brainwashed to that extent ..

Filed under: Humor, Lebanon, Political
Posted by N10452 on 07.01.07 @ 9:39 am |

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1. Cromwell | July 1st, 2007 at 10:13 am

Someone says that the UN is ruled by the White House and, as a consequence, it would be an America’s tool. Ok, I can tell you that Spanish Prime Minister, Rodriguez Zapatero, is an enthusiastic supporter of the UN because he does not like American foreign policy. Most of the people in Spain who confess they are against the US support the UN.

Greetings from Spain.
2. Rodge | July 1st, 2007 at 10:19 am

N10452,

U’re absolutely right and their answers are always the same. They are hearing their leaders and copying them. Like cheaps not more, but what is sad in this regard, is that everyone of us knows at least one friend or neighbour or colleague, or even a relative, who is following 8th of March, and in particular those following “Micho Show” (not the program on Future TV, but the man from the past and present and hopefully without a future). I personally feels pitty for those people, escpecially that many of them are good persons regardless their political opinion. Anyways, le’s pray for God to save them and bring them back on the right track
3. Rodge | July 1st, 2007 at 10:28 am

Cromwell,

U’re right somehow, but i think the UN is not ruled by the Americans, but it is submitted to lots of pressure from the Bush administration. In fact, the US is the most powerful country now, and the most powerful always try to impose his conditions, but we can’t say that the Americans are everything they want, since lots of things proved the contrary, of course they have a big influence, the biggest, but lots of UN resolutions were taken against the US will, and many others were refused, eventhough they were supported by Bush admin. Also, i’m seeing lots of countries challenging the US, look at Chavez in Venezuela, and in Spain as you just sais, of course Zapatero is different than his predecessor, and in Italy, Prodi is not the same as Berlusconi. France and Germany were against the Iraq qar. Fidel Castro still ruling Cuba for decades etc… Last, it is a game, but not always the stronger is the winner.

Greetings from a Lebanese in Kuwait to Lebanon and Spain, God bless you all
4. Mohammad | July 1st, 2007 at 11:13 am

Cromwell

Although it is known that the current spanish gov is against USA, still March8 movement (mainly Hizballa) will refuse any international investigation in the crime of bombing the spanish troops!!!!!!!! Do you know why? Because they know the killer! and they cannot help seeing the criminal sued by the international society.
GOD bless the souls of those troops and warm greetings to Spain.
5. Johnny.B | July 1st, 2007 at 11:32 am

Mohammad,

You’re right man
6. Johnny.B | July 1st, 2007 at 11:42 am

to N10452,

beleive there are even worse answers than the ones you posted looooooooool
7. dany | July 1st, 2007 at 1:24 pm

If the US controlled the UN, the war in Iraq would have been different. The US went to war to Iraq with the UK and a couple of small countries because the UN refused to go to war. With the UN were most BIG european countries e.g france, germany…
So I guess the UN is quite independent…
8. bachir-7ay-fina | July 1st, 2007 at 6:00 pm

*If u ask an FPM or Marada if HA wants an islamic republic in Lebanon.
Answear : of course NO!!!!

*If u ask an HA or any other shiite the same question
Answear : of course YES!!!!
*and if u ask the HA: Me as a christian, can i live in such islamic republic?
Answear : where the problem for you if there’s an islamic repub in Lebanon look at Iran a great country with an islamic regime!!
9. kingkassis | July 1st, 2007 at 6:08 pm

Yes sir, I have reached the same conclusion every time I argued.

They will inevitably make the laughable “Who benefits” argument in the course of their argument by citing the following:

1) The US government with the help of the Israelis masterminded 9/11 as a pretext to go to Iraq. (They will point out to you that Jews did not go to work that day).

2) March 14 masterminded all the killings of their own as a pretext to fight Hezbollah.

3) Syria could not have killed Hariri, since Syria was the biggest loser.
10. Rodge | July 1st, 2007 at 6:29 pm

Good one Bachir,

u’re so dam right

But i don’t know how they consider Iran as a great country, where the 2nd Oil producer in the world is suffering a Fuel crisis. They are busy with their Atomic Programme, which they are saying it is peaceful (what a big lie), and they are putting all the money in the world to develop it and support Hamas and HA with arms, while theyy are lacking a refining capacity for Oil, and now they have a big problem, even countries with less capacities are building refineries, but they are looking to expand the “Wilayat Al Faqih” so called empire. in the end they will fail as others did before
11. Mohammad | July 1st, 2007 at 7:02 pm

Walaw ya shabab! Of course Iran is great country!
Iran is:

1- Financing HA on daily basis (money + weapons)
2- Financing their Nuclear plans
3- Financing “Al Hothy” groups in Yemen to hit their government
4- Financing Shi3a in Pakistan to hit Parvez Mosharraf
5- Financing terrorists in Afghanistan to hit NATO
6- Financing Syria with weapons (Syria buys and iran pay the bill)
7- Threating the whole gulf countries everyday
8- Kidnapping sailors

9,10,11, 12……..

Kel hayda w Iran manna GREAT

IRAN is the MOST DANGEROUS COUNTRY NOWADAYS.
12. bachir-7ay-fina | July 1st, 2007 at 7:02 pm

Rodge
Of course they will fail.
Bi lebnen tawile 3a rakbetoun rakbit el akbar mennoun ya3emlo heik regime.
13. bachir-7ay-fina | July 1st, 2007 at 8:31 pm

Sokhoushmoush
kif tayyar watanai 7err 14 march iza met7alif ma3 HA men 8 march 2enta 2elle kif ??????????????
mech mohem el 7ake jewebne 3ala sou2ale!!!!!
ma fik tkoun 8 march w 14 march bi zet el waket ya hay ya hay now enta na2e.
14 march is the opposit of 8 march.
14 march = anti syria, anti sle7 barrat el char3iye
8 match = moukawame maftou7a bel jnoub
i’m wainting ur answear.
14. Mohammad | July 1st, 2007 at 9:02 pm

Sokhoushmoush,

b sharafak jewebny, law msheet bl shere3 w 7keet heek 7aky (yally inta katabto fo2) betle2y 7adan ysadd2ak?

Man, to go back to history, who went and protested in 14 march 2005? The answer is: LF/FM/PSP/Kataeb/FPM and OTHERS.

To come back to current date, whose is preventing those people who protested in M14 from doing their Job? The answer is:
FPM+HA+Amal+ other Syrian tools.

Who made “war2et tafahom” and covered HA during July war/ cutting roads/ hotels in solidare?

History won’t compassionate your actions.
15. bachir-7ay-fina | July 1st, 2007 at 9:11 pm

Mohammad
very good
16. @li 1559 | July 2nd, 2007 at 7:58 am

Mohammad

Stop and use logic . Americans are doing the iranians huge favors by :

* The invasion of Afganistan.
*Taliban elimination , Shiaa were suffering to death during the taliban time ,now they are in a good shape.
* Saddam EXECUTION !! Did you watch the video ? Moktada ,moktada ,moktada ! No wonder ….
*Iraqi shiaa are in power , they are controling the whole gov !
* No real military threats are looming against iran..kilo 7ake
*Russian blindly support .
*Gas prices !
Hayde just to name a few ones , ect….
17. zahléLfers | July 2nd, 2007 at 12:55 pm

BEFORE ENO el general yet7alaf ma3 HA ma ken fi wama shi3e bel tayyar.
Men ba3d ma t7alafo sar el tayyar 3endo marakiz bi tamnin, baalback w sar kell shi fi shi3a bel tayyar taba3o.
shou hal sodfe hay!!!!!
18. Mohammad | July 2nd, 2007 at 11:12 pm

@li 1559,

Tawweli belak shway, nezel safe2 comment wara el tenyeh from subject to subject, sa7i innak 3awni

look ya 7abibi, i don’t have time to discuss Iran-US conflicts and gifts, maybe one day b koon el topic 3n iran se3eta mne7ky.

To cut it short, when i say Iran i don’t mean exactly Shi3a. Shi3a is like any other sect that has the right to live in peace and…. BUT what I mean is the terrorists Shi3a militia (similar to sunni terrorists….) whether it is Ahmedi Najad or Mogtada Sader or Hizballa….

Lets end it here w mn shofak bl 7al2a el qademah.
19. @li 1559 | July 3rd, 2007 at 5:39 am

Mohammad

You’re right coz im busy 2 … ana ma 3m bissfo2 comment ana 3m jewib questions ….
20. Sokhoushmoush | July 5th, 2007 at 11:36 pm

Bi2bal inno’l ouwet yinti2do 3a yalli 7kit bass plz ya mohammad inta skot la2enno ana ba3ref tayeftak ou min bimawlak bil intikhabet ou min byedfa3 2ast jem3tak ,etc…Mr. 7ariri is not Lebanese…Lebanese forces have fighted in this land from Bashir(10452) to Samir(Canton)..And i respect them more than some bribery elements.Iza ma fhimit 2assdi s2al sheikh sa3d el din.