Carlitto slams Aoun ..
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Haha ..he made my day by that comment ..
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1. Mickel | October 15th, 2008 at 2:02 am
Carlos is a great guy. His attacks on Aoun are the best and he had the gutts to stand up to M14 when they went off track.
2. rima | October 15th, 2008 at 3:50 am
It is so sad that politicians like Carlos have few followers…The man is patriotic, straightforward, courageous and clean…what else do we want as Lebanese? I wonder
3. Anonymous | October 15th, 2008 at 3:53 am
I’ll tell you what: charisma and haybé… this dude only inspires laughter, nobody’s ever taken him seriously since the 1st day he appeared in public !!!
4. Doc 1559 | October 15th, 2008 at 4:22 am
To carlos edi :
Say what you mean ,then shut up! You never mattered anyway!
Humans only use about 1/10 of their brain power. With you , it could be less !
Ba3ed na2iss, only in lebanon 3la kell 7al.
5. DL | October 15th, 2008 at 5:16 am
Doc
Welcome back ..
and thank you fachaytile khile2 loooool
6. DL | October 15th, 2008 at 5:19 am
Carlos is a kid in politics.
7. rima | October 15th, 2008 at 6:38 am
guys
Why are you insulting the man? shou does he need katyoushia to voice his opinion and be heard?
8. Michele | October 15th, 2008 at 7:36 am
Rima these guys would enjoy more Carlos Edde if he uses vulgar low-class words like Aoun, Frangieh n Wahab…
Subtle remarks n jokes are too much for them to handle…
I do like that fellow n had the pleasure to be once seated next to him during a dinner; he was very polite, amusing n attentive.
I did ask him why on earth he had to leave Bresil n come back to Lebanon to deal wz filthy politics in Lebanon; he only explained to me that this has been always his wish to be back n continue his uncle’s legacy.
Now regarding that i’m not sure if Raymond Edde (R.I.P) would have been proud but of course, satisfied to see his nephew thrying hard.
9. Michele | October 15th, 2008 at 7:43 am
And u Anonymous only inspire disgust n disrepect!!!!
I’m reffering especially to ur comment on z previous article when u clearly expressed ur joy over killing Rafic el Harriri!!!! No matter what, no matter who he was n what he represented he was a human being, a husband, father n grandfather.
Shame on u!!!!!!
10. carlos | October 15th, 2008 at 8:06 am
carlos is the best
11. rima | October 15th, 2008 at 8:11 am
Hi Michele
Good replies and thank you for the information regarding eddeh…
I really wonder when are you going to visit Sydney since you travel quite often? Sure you will be so welcomed
12. Elie.F | October 15th, 2008 at 8:56 am
Ba3d na2sak Rambo ya Anonymous 7atta tinfokh rassak ba3d zyedi.
why everyone is considered an enemy if he have different point of view than yours, who said that your political point of view is the right one? U must have some respect ya shabeb.
Into jame3a akalto el Jazma 15 years and you behaved properly like sheep, why now in politics u need to behave like 7awash?
I hope i’m wrong but i think the Jazma kept your brain functioning well.
13. asaad | October 15th, 2008 at 10:31 am
n10452
2ashabak saudi arabia are paying a lot of money by using petrodollar
to win the elections.And aoun is visiting iran to fight the petrodollar of saudi arabia
ou kamen saudi arabia is paying for the christians in march 14 so they can win and
ywatno alfolostinieh.hayda houwe
almoukhatat alamerice alsa3oude
14. Michele | October 15th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Oh Rima, i’m definitely planning to visit Sydney, n there’s no way on earth i’ll pass a chance to enjoy a nice drink wz u!!!!
15. Michele | October 15th, 2008 at 11:07 am
This blog is getting even better wz asaad joining his Orange bloggers on that site!!!!!
Funnily, a song comes to my mind:
“Who let the dogs out??!!”
16. THERESINIA | October 15th, 2008 at 11:20 am
AOUN is with the SHI3A….against the SUNNA.
This is NOT the Christian spirit. The Christian spirit is to be WITH the SHI3A AND the SUNNA, it is a spirit of love, not of hatred.
AOUN is a man of division, NOT of union. He is not good for promoting peace and serenity among communities. He hates any one who crticizes him. He is not tolerant neither respectful of any idea that is NOT HIS idea.
I wish he could go for an urgent psychiatric treatment ASAP.
17. paul | October 15th, 2008 at 11:54 am
http://www.tayyar.org/Tayyar/Multimedia/Photos/PhotoViewer.htm?IMG=388923&PID=2&AID=24042&FAV=False&LUP=False&MVD=False
18. rima | October 15th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Michele
#12 heik bi tikmal fir2et el zajal…;D
19. Silvana | October 15th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
LOL Paul @ the pics, Aoun looks like he is within his comfort zone. They should appoint him our Ambassador to Syria when they establish diplomatic relations with Lebanon, perfect candidate ; They would love him there too.
I admire Carlos Edde very much, I hope he does perfect his mastering of the Arabic language because people like the Aounists find it laughable yet admire Aoun and Wiam Wahab for their vulgarity.
20. Rodge | October 15th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
We need more Politicians like Carlos Edde, since as Rima said, is patriotic, straightforward, courageous and clean,
and as Mickel said also, he had the gutts to stand up to M14 when they went off track.
Politicians like him become Presidents in the developed and civilized countries.
In fact, I would vote for him.
21. Silvana | October 15th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Michele,
I was reading your analysis of the Aounists mentality on a previous article and you are so right. However in regards to educated adults following Aoun, when people experience fear, hatred and esteem issues, they lose logic. That is what Aoun is taking advantage of.
This lady who likes Aoun for no reason other than him being Aoun , told me once “Oh every time I see him, I want to kiss his cheeks, shou tabi3i we mahdoum”. I felt like throwing my coffee in her face. Most of the Aounists I deal with nowadays are The likes of her, shallow humans who do not bother to scratch beneath the surface ( no offense to the others who are not).
22. Silvana | October 15th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Michele, I wrote this whole comment addressing you that is now awaiting moderation lol. However your nickname for Gibran bassil is so spot on
Rodge you are so right, these are the people that do have it to be leaders. Honest and tell it like it is
23. asaad | October 15th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
theresinia
aoun is not gaainst the sunni ,remember that 40% of his army were sunni from trablus and 3akar .wa3ta 3melna wwar2et tafehom ma3 hassan nessrallah da3ayna sa3ed alharire yeshterek feeya ta ne2dor na3mel mithek watani .bas sa3ed alharire rafad ou balacho y2oulo tene nhar 3ala television war2et tafehom masihe shi3e dod alssune ou iza 3am taleb michel aoun eno tkoon hay2et i8ethe al3oulya mat tkoun taht 2eed alsanyoura mich me3neta3am min hagem alsunni
24. Michele | October 15th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Wow ya asaad i have a feeling that u r a big…. shot!!!! n i quote:
“wa3ta 3MELNA wwar2et tafehom ma3 hassan nessrallah DA3AYNA sa3ed alharire yeshterek feeya ta NE2DOR na3mel mithek watani”
So u r z 1 who plans for everything!!!
Now i see why ur party is cr*p as they have people of ur level handling important issues in ur party!!!
Rou7 ya kbir inta!
25. readers | October 15th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Theresinia,
1) so to keep the same logic, Geagea is with the Sunna against the SHI3A. What do you think.
2) how do you know that Aoun don’t like SUNNA ? because he is against Hariri’s politic ? against KSA politic ?
26. Michele | October 15th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Lek bonjour ya Readers!!! Ca fait un bail qu’on ne t’a pa lu!!!!!
Forget now abt Theresina n kindly honor us wz ur opnion regarding Aoun visiting Iran on October the 13th claiming to represent not only the christians of Lebanon but of the whole region!
27. Rodge | October 15th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Michele,
You made it so hard on Readers by asking hm this question.
easy on him girl walaw!!!!
assaad,
U’re right, Aoun doesn’t hate Sunnis, he hates everybody who’s not with him, and for the coincidence it happened to be the Sunnis this time.
Eventhough he hates everybody, even the people around him.
28. Silvana | October 15th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
I wonder what the Christians of Iran think of Aoun claiming to represent the Christians of the whole region? Did he speak in regards to them getting their right to practice their religion as freely as they should and without fear of stepping out of line? They must love the protector of Christian rights embracing one of the men that oppress them… To say that he is representing of the whole region is one of the most laughable and ridiculous things he ever uttered and he does so on daily basis.
Hypocracy is inbred in all of us but Aoun takes it to a new level.
29. Silvana | October 15th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
* representing the Christians
30. ja3far | October 15th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
you people are funny …you are repeating each others without even checking if what you are saying is true..
let us see.. Geagea in Egypt, aoun in iran… i wonder which of these two contries respect the right of the christians more ?:) of course you all think it is egypt … surprise , surprise… you are wrong.. as most of the time…
i know iran is not the best country to be in as a christian but at least know the truth..
there is among 250 thousands christians in iran ( around 0.2% of the population) the constituation grant them at least 2 MPs.. of a total of 290 MP s which is a very good percentege compared to the population of iran and the respective number of MP…
and for those who are claiming that the christians cant practice their religion freely .. again you are wrong…
while every body know the suffering of al aqbat in egypt.. , even though the christians form 10 to 20 percent of the population in egypt; no Christian has held the key cabinet portfolios of interior, defense, or foreign affairs, let alone the offices of prime minister or speaker of the Legislative Assembly. In addition, Copts are underrepresented in parliament, and there exist no Coptic provincial governors (governors are appointed, not elected). In academia, there are almost no Coptic deans in the major state universities, despite the fact that many Copts are highly respected scholars.
another surprising fact, for you
Iran is the only country in the middle east who have protected it is jewish citisens .. there is around 25 to 30 thousands jewish who are still living in Iran, there religious and political rights are protected and they have a representative MP…
another comparison to make : Syria and saudi ..
…
the christians in syria are among the most protected by the asaad regime they have very strong positions in the governmet and in the army .. there privecy is very well respected and protected.. all you need to do is to go to Al Wadi area near Homous to understand that .. they have very nice old church there .. i have lightened a cundle in
on the other hand, just try to wear a cross in saudi.. or even try to enter a bible in the airport…
now of course none of these places represent the normal environment and ambiance that meet each human rights to practice his believes.. bass i think it is silly ino ysseer hal mozayadate.. sah?
and finally, we have always heard about houroub al akhareen fi loubnan .. tayeb.. why are you insisting and fighting the wars of others?
ino iran is one of the great nations in the region, saudi and egypt too.. tayeb excellent… we can visit each of them and have good friendship with them .. why should why bycout either,,, of course except israel
mouh heik ?:)
salam
31. Anonymous | October 15th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Michele… didn’t I tell you to leave the grown ups alone and go play with your dolls ????
Now go be a good girl or daddy’s gonna spank you
yalla ya shattoura
32. Silvana | October 15th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Well Mr Ja3far, Geagea did not say he represents the Christians of the whole region, but you had to waste your time writing a whole comment that proved what? The point is that Aoun is a hypocrite by uttering such remarks.
You do seem to enjoy posting long pointless comments, and geez when you first starting posting, I thought you were a refreshing change from others that insulted more than debated.
33. ja3far | October 15th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
silvana 3ayni… read the comments … most of them are attacking the idea of visiting iran as a country with all what it presents… i was trying to give additional information to have a clearer idea…
and yes , i do like to share facts and information with other people… sorry if am boring you,,,
salam
34. Michele | October 15th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Nevertheless ya Anonymous not only u r disgusting and vulgar but an idiot on top of all!!!
It’s clear u have been abused when u were a kid n i hope it wasn’t by ur parents.
Maybe u should seek some help cz only sick person like urself would cheer n enjoy the death of a human being!!!!
35. Michele | October 15th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Ua Ja3afar it seems u r z one who repeats himself n doesn’t really read other people’s comment…
We r criticizing ur General for deserting again on October 13 n this time to Iran instead of having a mass for the soul of the martyrs n apologizing for the Lebanese for killing them without any reason n for a lost cause.
2nd as Sylvana clearly explained it to u, Geagea did not claim to represent z christians, when ur ahbal claimed to represent not only z Lebanese Christians but z Christians of all the region!!!!
36. Anonymous | October 15th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Michele… come to papa, I’ll take good care of you honey
37. Rodge | October 15th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Ja3far,
I respect what u have wrote, and eventhough I agree with you on some parts, concerning the Christians in Saudi Arabia (u’re so right about that), and of course regarding the Christians in Syria who I know they are treated as others, opressed by the Regime but not because they are Christians.
But in return I have to rectify ur information, you said and I quote “no Christian has held the key cabinet portfolios of interior, defense, or foreign affairs in Egypt”.
Well does Boutros Ghali reminds you of anything??
He was Under Prime Minister for Foreign affairs, and then became the UN Secretary General.
Also does the names of Nagib & Nassif Sawires ring a bell?? they are among the most wealthy persons in Egypt.
What i’m saying is that regardless of the regime which is not democratic at all, but Christians are given the chance to shine and be successful.
Also and as Silvana said, Geagea did not claim he was speaking on behalf or defending the rights of the Christians in all the Middle East.
In addition, we were not talking about others visiting other countries, we were criticising the visit of Aoun to Iran, this is our opinion, why everytime you bring another subject as an alternative.
Thank you
38. Anonymous | October 15th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Rodge, I heard a reconciliation is underway between geagea and hezbollah… so if everything goes as planned and geagea gets invited to iran (by some miracle) will you criticize him or se3eta bet sir halel el zyara 3a iran????
habibé holé el jame3a yalle msammyeen 7aloun zo3ama masi7iyye 3am byed7ako 3lek wou 3lyana kelna…kel wahad feti7 3a 7sebo… malla iyyem, shi bi jannin saro noss el masi7iyye shi3a wou nosson sunni… shi bi sharrif bel fe3el… wlak inshallh aoun’s plane crashes with geagea’s on their way back from their (new) masters…
39. ja3far | October 15th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
N.. why my comments are always stopped for moderation?:) sorry rodge u will need to wait till it pass…
salam
40. Rodge | October 15th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Anonymous,
I will be the first one to criticize him, so don’t worry about that.
You know Anonymous what really bothers me about you? is that u claim to be in the middle, but in fact all you said till now shows that you hate Geagea, while not once u criticized Aoun.
Ok you say sometimes bad things about him, but it is only to cover up.
If you really are neutral and you don’t believe in any leader, I’m with you, becase eventhough I love the LF and I support Geagea for his principles that haven’t changed so far, but in fact I don’t believe in any leader after Bashir, and once Geagea or else changes, I will consider them as wrong and I will not back them or defend what they do.
I lve by my own convictions, just like many of us here, among them N10452, and you should respect that.
41. ja3far | October 15th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
michele.. i do read lot of the comments.. and i have noticed that you have reduced your attacks on me on a personal level so thank u.. As a blog mate, i will give you a friendly advice..it is up to u to take it or leave it…you get too excited about your opinion sometimes and you end up attacking the others on a personal level agressively .. just be careful .. you are giving a wrong image of yourself..
regarding the comments.. no need to scroll through the comments made in the last three days.. all u need to read is the comment of silvan herself #24 attacking the visit and embrassing the surpressor of the christians in iran…
regarding the time of the visit.. it seems the aouni themselve are not so annoyed:)
finally, i believe we should all be happy about such a visit.. wether we like Aoun or not.. he is considered in iran as a great lebanese christian leader.. and he is treated there in a very special and honorable way… this give the christians in lebanon in the long run a position they have lost since a while in the middle east…
halae i know if Manutd is playing the final of champions league the fans of \liverpoole will not want him to win.. but at the end if he wins it is for the benefits of the english football…
so if your friendship with the states, saudi, egypt or with iran is for the benefit of lebanon in the long term .. go for it…
salam
42. Anonymous | October 15th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Rodge… Wishing death to a guy, is this enough proof for you ???!!!!
Ya khayye feel free to support whoever you want but you (and lots of people in lebanon) CANNOT accept the fact that there are people who really don’t give a damn about all those so called politicians. If you’re not aouné you’re ouwwatjé, if you’re against sfeir you’re marada etc etc etc… ya khayye mesh mazbout hal 7aké.. kelloun sawa ma byeswo wou kelloun kharabouna wou ra7 bi jibo ekhertoun lal masi7iyyé bi hal balad wou ba3ed fi ness le72inoun wou bi za2fouloun
FYI… some friends and I started a “movement”, it’s a very basic and modest one and we have only one rule: war2a bayda (it’s the name of the movement as well). As the name indicates, for the next elections we are only putting a blank sheet. Ma 7ada min hal zbele byeswa 7a2 el 7eber 3al war2a… Unfortunately the entire movement is around 10 persons… imagine if we were a million!! keno kel hal bda3a bi rou7o 3a byoutoun wou bi 7ello 3anna. Just to tell you how dedicated we are, me and some of the others living abroad are flying in especially just vote blank on the next election…
Fa please ma ba2 7ada yttehemne enne aoune aw ma ba3rif shou… especially young children like your michele…
sa3idé
43. danny | October 15th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
ja3far made a few valid points regarding the Christian’s “protection’ in Syria and Iran (???).
Sam, you are right Christians enjoy a semblance of “freedom” in Iran. However, you missed one point: see this from Now Lebanon. The wolf in Sheep’s clothing;
“….the Christian leader should be advised about a little-noticed draft law that passed the first of two votes in the Iranian Parliament over the summer. The legislation mandates the death penalty for anyone who converts from Islam and appears poised to become a justification for persecuting Christians and Baha’is. Tehran has executed Muslims for converting to Christianity in the past, and, with conversion becoming increasingly common in the Islamic Republic, this legislation – which Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad lobbied for – flies in the face of not only international human rights, but also Lebanon’s spirit of religious tolerance. As a self-described representative of the Christian community in Lebanon, Aoun should be worried about sitting at the same table as those who would hang a man for his religious beliefs. He should choose his friends more carefully”.
Now. clAoun is in Iran for one reason alone! Saudi refused to accept him. USA and the rest of the world refused him…As a jilted lover he jumped wholeheartedly into the only place that would give him an audience.
As a politician; if you can call him that; he had no other options…with elections nearing he heeded to the hizb’s advice that he had to visit the Don of the mafioso to be bleeded and “gifted” with “clean money”.
As a leader…hahaha…he is nothing but a groveling lunatic. A man of principle does not “evolve” his principles. Anyway there is not much I can add to this thread. It is like beating a dead horse!
44. ja3far | October 15th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
ino ktachafet al baroud ya danni ? this is an excisting problem in all islamic countries not just iran.. if you convert you shouldnt declare it in public..
churches in syria will not accept any muslim to come in and convert.. in egypt the court will not accept and the converter will hide so that not killed . in saudi , which is not accepting aoun as you said you cannot say the name christian they will tell you kafer…
and i recall me saying :”now of course none of these places represent the normal environment and ambiance that meet each human rights to practice his believes.. bass i think it is silly ino ysseer hal mozayadate.. ”
so ana biraeye inak tirja3e ma daye3e waetak ma3ee .. la anou at the end .. ya reetak khreet wa ma hkeet…
45. danny | October 15th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
sammy,
Again I tried to read some of your drivel and get bombarded with more! You were the one who talked about freedom of religion in Iran NOT me!
you said…”and for those who are claiming that the christians cant practice their religion freely .. again you are wrong…
So before you go on pontificating and bullshitting by spinning words…read your own crap. If there’s freedom in Iran as you suggested then Definitely they should not execute someone for chosing Christianity over Shiism! Capische? Or is this too hard for a crackhead like you to comprehend?
I regret for one moment thinking and moron like you can reform…well…I’ll say it: I was dead wrong!
46. ja3far | October 15th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
litle danny.., i know this is to much for you to understnad… iran follows what they believe to be islamic laws, some i agree with others i dont. but this is not the point..
in these laws if you are muslim you have to obey these islamic rules, if you are not the government is obliged to respect your ideology…iran is the only islamic country where you still find people who worship the fire…
ya3ni…if a muslim man marry a christian woman for example, he is obliged to respect her believes..ie.. if she want to go to church on sunday he is not allowed to forbid her , on the contrary he is obliged to take her there…
on the other hand, if you are a muslim you have to obey the regulation and laws of islam in your community.. in your dress and attitude.. between you and yourself you are free.. but if you want to brake the islamic law you will be punished so that you dont harm the others… as a muslim you are judged under islamic rules..one of these laws is that if you leave islam and declare it you should be punished…… you want to convert ,, do it but do your new ideology alone…
are u able to see the diference ya zakzak?
salam
47. ja3far | October 15th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Rodge.. you are right.. i forgot about bou tros Ghali.. my information where from the following report from the washigton institute for near east policy:
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC05.php?CID=2386
i think they were more into the near future..
regarding syria.. i have many christian friends from syria.. trust me with this.. an easy sample will be to search about christinity in syria and egypt in wikipidea for example…http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Syria… and you will see the diference clearly…
regarding the other alternatives i was saying that we shouldnt criticise any ..
salam
48. danny | October 15th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Sammy,
Someone should teach you how to write…
You cannot proclaim somthing and then go in a circular way trying to explain your misnomer!
I said I made a mistake answering to your comments…
You are just a sheep. Do you have any ideas or opinions except of those of your divine turbines?
You said…AGIAN…” …”and for those who are claiming that the christians cant practice their religion freely .. again you are wrong…
You did write this right? What does this mean to you? stop driveling! freedom is freedom. If not (based on your stupid explanation) then do not say so!
What’s wrong with you? Coolaid? or too much crack? Of course the third option seems to explain all the symptoms of your halluciganic behavior. You must be a freaking hizbitzy! You cannot think for yourself…You do not know what a freedom of choice means…
Before you make comments habhazardly try to ‘think” (I know that’s hard for you).
I do not need a detailed BS about this and that….Stop talking in circles if you want to be taking seriously!
…and please cut off this salam shit!
49. nevermind | October 15th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Actually ,I don’t think Aoun went to Iran just for the money…
I do strongly believe that there is a war getting prepared to get rid of hizballa, and aoun knows very well that he is not wellcomed anymore in France, nore in USA, so he is seeking for a new “hid-out” which the aounist call it exile…
Yeah,sorry,returning to the begining, almost forgot, I think Carlos Edde is one of the best politicians in Lebanon, we should be proud of him… I back him 100 %
Rodge:
Can u tell me the reasons why you think that there is no better leader than the late Bashir? just out of curiosity…
50. ja3far | October 15th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
little danny.. i knew you are a child .. bass didnt know you are such a baby..
you cant take a phrase from its context and use it… ino jaye tilhaene 3ala kilme ? shou walad;) ma in the same contest i said none of these places represent the normal environment and ambiance that meet each human rights to practice his believes ..of course hayde you missed?:)
any way if the information wasnt clear.. i hope with the followed explanantion it is clearer..
bass baynetna, i have figured what is your real problem.. hayess layess … 3am bitnatnet…ya3leek shou tayoub …
salam
51. ja3far | October 15th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
rodge.. finally it passed
check # 47..
salam
52. danny | October 15th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
sammy,
You just proved my point! You are a total ahbal! The only way you can rebutt my point is calling me baby etc…
what a waste of human space!
53. ja3far | October 15th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
little danny… ino ma3koul inti
reread what you were calling me in your comments… 3anjad raheeb… 3anjad you cant judgethis much ?.. bass if you really think about my last sentence you will understand it in a different way;)
salam
54. danny | October 15th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
sammy,
I know you “pitch” (receive) for the opposing team. No need to show your gayness!!
55. Rodge | October 15th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
Ja3far,
I did, thanks.
And I agree with you abot the Christians in Syria, but what i meant is they are opressed like all the other Citizens, regardless their religion or ethnicity.
Anyway thank you for ur good reply, I think we need these kinds of debates.
Take care
56. ja3far | October 15th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
little danny.. your problem is very clear.. your attitude,.. your desperate tries to look a man.. harram.. shou ma fi hada mlabeek hounik?…
hine al shi3a himsheen .. bass mich ma3e real women mich ma3e yali mitlak..
fa hil 3ani baea laanou ma ha a3melak shi.. widhet ya zakzak hal mara?
57. ja3far | October 15th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
my pleasure rodge my pleasure.. i respect your wide vision and knowledge
salam
58. Rima | October 16th, 2008 at 12:45 am
Ya Danny shou beina ma 3ala asseiss you advised us not to answer some rubbish posts on this blog why are you falling in the trap?
As for me, I took your advice literally and am not even reading some posts
Cheers
59. danny | October 16th, 2008 at 1:02 am
Rima,
You R right. I regressed. I should let the barking dogs go….
Cheers
60. Michele | October 16th, 2008 at 7:14 am
Hé hé hé Anonymous is that what ur father used to tell u: “come to Papa!”
Now we know from what parent u have been abused by…
No seriously go seek some professional help n no joke here!!!!
61. Michele | October 16th, 2008 at 7:17 am
Ja3far amigo, there are 2 things that i can’t tolerate in life: Hypocricy n Stupidity!
We fehmak kfeyé…
Oh and btw do i look like i’m a person who really cares abt what other might think abt me???
62. readers | October 16th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Michele
je te remercie pour cet accueil si chaleureux (#26).
Les chretiens sont en danger dans cette region a cause de cette croisade americaine. L’exode des chretiens d’Iraq est un exemple flagrant.
Il faut agir avant qu’il ne soit trop tard. Le General Aoun agit selon sa conviction mais au moins il agit et sa paye. Si tu n’es pas d’accord avec sa facon de faire c’est ton droit, mais les elections montreront si sa plolitique est la bonne ou pas.
Peux-tu me dire quelle action Geagea entreprend pour preserver les chretiens d’Orient ? serait-ce a travers le federalisme ?
N’est-ce pas le devoir du Patriarche de tout faire pour preserver les chretiens dans notre region ? a-t-il un jour viste les pays arabes ou il y a une concentration de chretiens telque l’Iraq, la Jordanie, la Syries, l’Iran, l’Egypte etc ? a-t-il un jour lever la voix a l’encontre de l’exode des chretien d’Iraq ? Il a rencontre le president des Etats Unis, a-t-il parle des problemes des chretiens d’Orient ? malheureusement pour lui il n’y a de chretiens que dans la montagne libanaise. Heureusement qu’il y a quelqu’un sur qui on peut encore compter en tant que chretiens pour defendre nos droits.
J’ai donne mon opinion, puis-je avoir la tienne ?
Encore une quetion, savais-tu qu’il y avait des chretiens hors de la montagne libanaise ? j’en suis sur que non, sinon ta reaction aurait ete toute autre….
63. Michele | October 16th, 2008 at 11:07 am
Readers mon ami, je voulais juste exposer le ridiculisme du General en pretendant etre le representant des Chretiens dans les pays du moyen orient.
De plus sans vouloir paraitre vulgaire mais pour le moment j’en ai rien a cirer des conditions des chretiens ds la region tant que la condition des chretiens au Liban n’est pas stable.
Que tu le veuilles ou pas je blame uniquement le General pour le sort des chretiens et lui en veux a mourir!
Il etait clair que Aoun ne pensait qu’a sa personne.
Faut plus croire a ses slogans et ses fausses promesses; d’ailleurs ca ne te laisse pas perplexe qu’il change autant d’avis?
64. Rodge | October 16th, 2008 at 11:13 am
readers,
Tu m’as intrigue de te repondre sur une des tes points, car je suis sur que Michele, qui aura toute ma confiance, est tres capable de preparer des reponses sublimes sur ce point et les restes encore.
Anyway, about the Patriarch, where you with him when he met Bush to see what they talked about?
Also, he is the Patriarch of the Maronites, so how do you expect him to visit Iraq, Egypt and other places, where the Christians are not Maronites and have their own religious representatives.
The problem in Aoun is that he always claim what he’s not doing, and believe me, you would be undrestimate people if you try to convince them that Aoun went there to call for the Christians rights in Iran, the Middle East or elsewhere.
Please do you see any child here??
Remove this stupid idea that Aoun is a saint, he isn’t, in fact he’s anything but a saint
65. readers | October 16th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Michele,
1) est-ce un comportement ridicule de defendre la cause des chretiens au Moyen Orient, drole de logique.
2) Rien n’a cirer des chretiens dans la regions ? pas de commentaire, je voudrai juste te feliciter … BRAVO
3) La condition des Chretiens n’est pas stable au Liban ? Au contraire je trouve que grace au General Aoun elle est devenue encore plus stable.
4) Tu lui en veux a mourir c’est ton probleme, mais peux-tu me dire comment le General Aoun a compromis le sort des chretiens ?
5) Le general Aoun ne pense qu’a sa personne: Peux-tu me dire comment, non ce n’est pas clair pour moi, eclaire moi de ta lanterne.
6) Quels slogans ? mai c’est vous les rois des slogans type “Nous somme la resistance” ou bien “Vous etes les cedres et nous sommes son trait rouge” sans oublier la saintete de Geagea, il siffit de le voir sur toutes les affiches cote a cote avec Mar Charbel.
7) Michele il est facile de critiquer. Mettez vous au travail et montrez nous ce que les forces libanaises ont fait et feront pour la defense des chretiens d’orient. Si c’est en prenant la defense des salafistes qui avaient attaque Achrafieh eh bien je vous dis BRAVO.
66. Michele | October 16th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Readers c’est clair que tu ne veux pas comprendre ou bien t’arrive vraiment pas!!
1)OUI il est ridicule s’il se permet de croire et de faire croire qu’il est le representant des chretiens en orient alors qu’il ne represente ces jours-ci qu’1 minorité de chretiens au Liban.
2)Tjrs rien a cirer des chretiens de l’orient, de la cause arabe et SURTOUT de la cause Palestinienne. ce qui m’importe est le Liban et SEULEMENT le LIBAN we 3akble lam kel lebnené yihemmo bass loubnen!!!!
Avec ta logique de merde tu justifies la loyauté des chiites pour L’iran et celle des sunnites pour l’arabie.
3)Tu trouves vraiment qu’elle est stable et la condition des chretiens et grace a Aoun?? Mais tu vis sur quelle planete mon petit?
4)Comment le General a compromis le sort des cretiens; voyons par quoi je dois commencer…. Hmmmmm
La liste est longue mais c’est surtout quand il a encouragé et lancé une guerre entre 1 chretien Libanais contre son frere un autre chretien Libanais.
5)Vas y explique moi mon petit comment ton General est devenu 1 milliardaire, et si tu pretends que tu ne le sais pas alors t’es vraiment bete!
6)Quel slogans: Aoun reje3/ Aoun rajja3 7kouk el massi7iye et etc
7) Finalement Readers je ne fais pas du tout parti des partisans des LF mais plutot du mouvement 14 Mars qui represente desormais mes convictions et mes principes:
Un liban libre et independant, un Liban pr tout le monde, une armee libanaise et puissante et une economie prospere.
67. Rima | October 16th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Readers
On defend la cause Chretienne au Moyen Orient quand on replace le Patriarche des Maronites by Aounallah machallah.
68. readers | October 16th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Rodge,
1) no you’re right I wasn’t with him, if you think they mentioned the subject of christians in the middle east why did they keep it so secret instead of revealing it publicly and taking actions ?
2) if they are not maronites but christians is it forbiden to help them ? are we at the point of racial segregation ? what a shame. moreover do you know that the maronites in Syria are much more present than in Lebanon ? I will leave the non maronites christians to comment.
Didn’t the Pope Jean-Paul II visit many islamic countries of the middle east: Syria, Turkey etc. ?
Didn’t the Pope who is catholic visit the maronites of Lebabnon ?
This this is not the behavior we expect from our Patriarch, who is the patriarch of the whole middle east region
3) You’re wrong Aoun is always doing what he claims. Aoun’s priority is to protect christians in our region from american cruisades. The status of the christians in Lebanon is much more stable than ever, moreover Aoun is fighting for secular state where the rights of all religious communities are protected.
4) Talking about child, yes I can see at least one … I’m sure you know him well
5) I never said that Aoun is a saint. Should we be a saint to support christians rights ? As a christian leader, by visiting Iran and other islamic countries in the future, he is contributing to preserve christians in this region and above all in Lebanon. He is showing that arabic christians are a decison-maker in this region. But you, Lebanese Forces you are considering Geagea as a Saint … have you ever seen this poster of Geagea surrounded by lebanese saints, have you ?
69. Fuziyad | October 16th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Cher ami anti-imprerialiste nommé Readerssssssss, ptite question, est-ce qu’en 2005 tu arborais un drapeau americain et un panneau anti-americain “1559 now” comme tous tes amis aounistes à qui on tentaient d’expliquer que c’était pas une bonne idée?? et encore je ne mentionnes pas les écharped orange en référance au coup d’état americain en ukraine…la couleur est restée mais les idées ont bien changé… esprit libre va…
70. Fuziyad | October 16th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
je voulais dire un panneau “1559 now” pas un panneau anti-americain “1559 now”, lapsus revelateur…daya3touna!!!
71. readers | October 16th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Michele,
je vois qu tu t’enerves ma petite car tu manques de logique, je comprends maintenant ton admiration pour Carlos Edde.
Je voudrai juste repondre aux points 4, 5 et 6 car les autres n’ont aucun sens.
4) Il faut plutot poser cette question a Geagea.
5) Milliardaire lui … tu te trompes ma chere, je te conseille de revoir tes sources et ne dis plus de telles betises
6) Aoun reje3 … il est ou le probleme ? est-ce que Aoun est rentre au pays ou pas ? a-t on insulte quelqu’un avec ce slogan ?
“Aoun rajja3 7kouk el massi7iye” oui c’est vrai car sans lui on serai toujours avec le loi electorale de notre chere Ghazi que vous aimez vraiment
72. Michele | October 16th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Aoun’s priority is to protect Christians in our region??? Non mais Readers t’es serieux?????
Man, r u high or what or simply delusional??
Plz plz tell me how Aoun is protecting all the christians is the M.E when the 1st thing he did in that infamous october protecting himself 1st n leaving his OWN family then men. The man is not even capable of protecting his wife n daughters!
Plz ya albé tell me how is he now protecting the Christian Iranian when he went to visit them, ate their food, drank their beverages, took their money what did he really achieve from that trip except of increasing his bank account n gaining extra kilos?
What the hell is he doing there for the last 4-5 days?
As a real leader n politicians don’t u think it would have been more honorable to stay here on October 13th?
73. Michele | October 16th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Ya readers ya albé, Claudine Aoun elle-meme m’at dit que son papi a achete 2 appartements super deluxes chacun a 1 million de dollars pour elle et Mireille.
Si t’arrive pas a le croire, et si tu vis au Liban je suis sure que ca doit etre facile de verifier.
a moins que tu crois que Claudine ait herité le don du mensonge de son pere!
alors expliques moi stp d’ou est-ce qu’il a eu ses 2 millions???
A part ca, je te laisse car franchement g d’autre chat a fouetter…
74. Fuziyad | October 16th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Readers j’ai pas droit à une réponse moi??
75. readers | October 16th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Michele,
Non, ne me dis pas, eh bien la, tu m’en bouche un coin… hey, Le mecs, le general a deux millions de dollars, c’est un milliardaire, et vous savez quoi ? Joumblat, Hariri et Geagea sont a la rue, ya haram…
Ma3lesh habibte, il faut arreter ces mensonges, et j’en suis sur maintenant que tu n’as jamais parle ni avec Claudine et ni avec Mireille.
Si tu veux parler de milliardaire adresse toi plutot aux proprietaires de Me3rab, de Clemenceau, de Kraytem, de Mokhtara et j’en passe.
Tu as raison, je pense que tu feras mieux d’aller fouetter tes chats
76. readers | October 16th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Fusiyad,
Mais bien sur mon cher, mais avant il faut bien que je comprenne ce que tu voulais dire. Je te laisse le temps de rediger de nouveau ton message et soit sur je te ferai honneur de ma reponse
77. readers | October 16th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Michele,
en reponse a #72, il vaut meiux ne pas parler de choses dont tu n’ais pas sur. Il ne faut pas parler pour parler, verifie tes sources avant.
78. Michele | October 16th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Readers t’es 1 pauvre type!!!!
79. readers | October 16th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Michele,
les 14 marsistes n’ont pas laisser un pays sans le vister, ils ont meme ete en Iran, tu as la memoire tres courte.
Ma chere quand le General Aoun etait a cote des resistants pour empecher Israel d’annexer encore une fois le Liban, vous vous etiez a l’embassade americaine en train de faire la fete avec Condi
80. readers | October 16th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Michele,
#78, Merci, venant de toi c’est un compliment
81. Michele | October 16th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Mais stp Readers arrete de pleurnicher comme 1 petite gamine!!!!
T’as pas honte??!!
Fuziyad plz don’t waste ur time wz him u can clearly see that he perfectly fits the profile of the Aounists that we draw yesterday…
He’s definitely a hopeless case!
Silly me, i thought he was a bit worth of my time but i found out i’m dealing wz a TYPICAL brainwashed Orange!
82. ja3far | October 16th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Readers .. how come you are answering back today? you dont usually
salam
83. ja3far | October 16th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
one more thing.. Ameen Jumael raised the flag of protecting the christians in the islamic world today … strange coincidence, no?;)
84. Michele | October 16th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
I’ll tell u why Ja3far; I guess Readers is PMSing today
85. Anonymous | October 16th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
waaaww michele you’re so smart and sharp !!
it took you like 26 hrs to come up with this stupid answer ……. it reallys says a lot about your IQ.
AGAIN GO PLAY WITH YOUR DOLLS YOU RETARD…
PS: le mot “ridiculisme” n’existe pas espece de petite crotte, tu n’es jamais allee au college ??
Allez sois une vrai femmelette comme ton pere reste dans ton petit coin et fiche nous la paix.
86. Michele | October 16th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Anonymous, why don’t u ask ur daddy’s permission n come play wz my dolls wz me??!!
87. Fuziyad | October 16th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Bien vrai Michele, tu crois qu’il porte une chemise à carreaux avec des manches courtes??
88. Michele | October 16th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Fuziyad, tu parles de qui la?
Car entre Readers et Anonymous on est vraiment gater!!!
L’un n’arrete pas de pleurnicher et l’autre veut absolument jouer aux poupees!!! lol
89. Fuziyad | October 16th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
les deux probablement….chemise à manche courte, crane plat et regard vide, ils ont tous la meme tete ces aounistes, des tete de syriens un peu palots en gros…
90. Anonymous | October 16th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Fuziyad… sois un homme comme ta mere et va t’occupper des vaches
Ta mere et le pere de michele, c’est le “match made in heaven” …….
91. readers | October 16th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Michele tu es incomprehensible, j’ai l’impression que tu vis dans un reve.
Je te conseille de retourner jouer avec ta Barbie
92. readers | October 16th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Ja3far,
#82, I know but sometimes I have to.
Salam
93. Rodge | October 16th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
readers,
It seems to me that all you want is blame the Patriarch and everybody else, except…… guess who AngelAoun.
In ur last reply to me, u talked about racial segregation. What???? enno all I said is that those Christians have their own representatives and bishops, every one should take care of his people. Enno now you want the Patriarch to interfer in other countries while you forbid him to interfer here??? shou hal logic ya ein.
The Pope is a universal figure, and when he visits somewhere because he has a message of peace regardless if the country is Muslim or not, and u described his Visit to Syria as a visit to a Muslim country forgetting the Christians and Maronites you said urself they are more than in Lebanon.
And how you can say: “Didn’t the Pope who is catholic visit the maronites of Lebabnon?” FYI Maronites are Catholics and they follow the Pope, it seems u’re so damn ignorant.
As for Aoun doing what he claims. ha ha ha ha
This is what u have been told, so i’m not gonna answer you, maybe i will answer the one who taught you that.
I have a list of Aoun not doing anything he claimed and still claiming.
94. danny | October 16th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
readers,
Here’s some ‘reading” material that is factual for you. You might change your mind after reading some of them…
http://www.10452lccc.com/aouncontradictions.html
95. Rodge | October 16th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Anonynous,
please accept what I have to say.
With this reply to Michele, u’ve proved one of 2 things:
- Even u’re really a Aounist as we accuse you and you denied numerous time.
- Or u’re the same readers, and eventually u’re a Aounist.
Because sincerly I don’t know why you came with this reply when you were not attacked or even addressed to.
You accuse us of labelling everybody as Aounists if they are not with us, but believe me I never did, but ur acts are incenting this idea.
We need an explanation, once for all, and it should be followed by behavior, and please believe me I don’t care if u’re Aounist or no, it’s ur call and ur opinion.
96. Fuziyad | October 16th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Anonymous, la classe…et kel bon froncais!!!bises
97. Anonymous | October 16th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
I give up… I really don’t know what else to do.
Rodge either you’re not reading what I’m writing or you have an understanding problem (with all due respect). Ya khayye if you want me to be aouné bil ouwwé that’s your problem.
However you should know one thing: If I was aouné or ouwwatje or whatever… I would scream it out loud, and certainly not try to hide it. I mean what interest would I have to hide a political affiliation ??!!
Anyway, I really give up. I don’t have to prove myself to anyone… But just one last time for the record: I am not, never have and never will be aouné (Or ouwwatje etc etc etc…)
Ghareeb amrak ya zalamé, lesh hal addé mousser ta3melne aouné ??!!! i find it really amazing!
98. readers | October 16th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Rodge,
I’m balming lazy people, who are afraid to respect their responsibilities.
Fortunately there is someone like Aoun to defend Christians rights.
99. danny | October 16th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Rodge,
It seems Anon, readers and ja3far all have the same expression of attacking people and trying to denegrade them by trying to treat them as children.
I will not respond any more to any of these rants as they are sexist, racist and utter stupid.
By yelling loudest or trying to mock people instead of rebutting in a civil way just shows how intellectually impotent they are…
100. Anonymous | October 16th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Garde les tes bises pauvre con…
101. Rodge | October 16th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Anonymous,
Khaye ra7 dall mossirr, because u’re convicting urself in #85 you said while addressing Michele:
waaaww michele you’re so smart and sharp !!
it took you like 26 hrs to come up with this stupid answer ……. it reallys says a lot about your IQ.
AGAIN GO PLAY WITH YOUR DOLLS YOU RETARD…
and you still didn’t explain why.
The debate was between Michel and readers, and no one jeb sirtak. so why you always attack the people defending March 14 and never criticizing anyone form the other part.
Do you see what readers said logic??
You don’t see that he’s stupid and ignorant and blind follower???
Anonymous ya habibe,
You started to attack us here, while no one touched you before.
You never entered a debate with one of the Aounists or HA or else here, so if u’re not Aounist, at least u’re some who hates so much the LF and March 14, and for me u’re not welcome in this behavior.
I welcome any other opiniuon, but I don’t accept someone who comes here and attack me and starts to consider me as wrong simply because he feels he’s someone above all.
No habine, for me u’re nobody if u gonna continue that behavior, so behave urself well or else we’ll not gonna agree on anything, eventhough, if u’re really honest in what u say, we agree a lot on the principle, but ur execution is BAD my friend.
Understood????? can I be more clear?
102. Anonymous | October 16th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
That being said… do you wanna join our “war2a bayda” group ?
103. Anonymous | October 16th, 2008 at 6:36 pm
…and by the way, your friend little michele “attacked” me on a previous post so we’ve been dragging our little fight from one post to the other… she’s quite amusing, aren’t they all at this age ?!
Anyway I’m finished with her, some people are better off being ignored especially when they’re too young to hang out with grown ups
104. Anonymous | October 16th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
in an unrelated (and sad) matter I read a report on what’s happening to the christians in Iraq. It’s really a shame.
Does anyone know how we can help these people (donnations, clothes, food, shelter…)??
ma 7ada 3am yes2al 3announ hal m3attreen, not the US not Europe not even the UN. I have to say it’s quite tragic
105. Michele | October 19th, 2008 at 8:01 am
Mais Readers je ne l’ai plus ma Barbie, tu peux me la rendre stp???
Hey Anonymous, t’as tort de rejeter les bises de Fuziyad, vu a quel point t’as besoin d’affection!!!! lol
Rodge as always U R z MAN!!!!!!
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