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• 1. Rodge | January 15th, 2008 at 2:59 am

  Our problem us the Christians is that we couldn’t benefited from any good opportunity in our political history in Lebanon, and since the independence, all our Maronite leaders were too busy in their race for Presidency, and that’s why they haven’t managed to agree except when they have faced a sole ennemy.
  They fought hard in 1975 against the Palestinians.
  Again they fought harder between 1978 and 1990 against the Syrians, and most of them are still fighting.
  But unfortunately, they will never be united, as long as we have traitors in their ranks, and Aoun is the best example for that.
  So again, we will not be able to grab that chance, because someone is thinking only about the “chair” and his own interests.

  Another point of view, i personally think that the Syrians are divided now, they have 2 parties, one represented by Bashar, Shareh and Moallim. this party has truly agreed on the Arab initiative, because they were promised a lot of money from the Gulf countries, as well as some partial agreement regarding the Golan district, and mostly they were promised not to be hurt by the Tribunal while keeping the regime alive.
  On the other hand, there is the second party, which consists mainly of Assaf Shawkat, Rustom Ghazali, and Maher Assad and Co. This party fond out that they were a subject of a deal to bring them to justice. in that way, Bashar and co. will get rid of them and their problems, and on the other hand he wil close the chapter of the tribunal by handing them to the international community without being involved.
  But what hapened is that the Assaf team is supoorted by Iran, and still have Power in hand, and for that reason the border was closed few days ago, it was a message that the Syrian leadership has lost the cards, and it’s Iran who’s playing the big role now, and that’s why Larijani visited Syria twice in a couple of days, the first time before the initiative was announced and the secon after, and he called Hassan Khalil and Ali Hassan Khalil and others for a meeting to inform them how they should fail ths initiative.
  It’s obvious now that Iran and the US are leading in both sides, and they are both extremists, so i’m seeing a worse scenario in the near future.

• 2. theCourtFool | January 15th, 2008 at 4:23 am

  “All Christians…”?

  You mean “All Lebanese should accept this initiative”. True it may serve the Christians, divided between both extremeties, may have a solution between their hands, or a problem among their own camps.

  Point two:”the formation of a national unity government in which no one party has veto power”

  needs more elaboration. We’ll have to wait for the details.

• 3. M.N. | January 15th, 2008 at 7:44 am

  N,
  i don’t think the initiative meant to give the president 1/3 of the cabinet…it’s like dividing 10-10-10…which is bullshit…
  like this the majority cannot stop any decision taken by the opposition and the president, what will be the consequence?? the majority in the parliament will announce that the cabinet is “un-trustfull”, the cabinet will be down and the same problem will repeat itself….
  i would say that the initiative meant the explanation of Jumblat and hariri: 14-10-6.

  Secondly, we are sure that this initiative is for the next cabinet to solve the current situation but it’s not a forever initiative, in the future everything can change (maybe the opposition will not be in the cabinet)…

  Cheers,

• 4. Arze | January 15th, 2008 at 11:01 am

  This is why Aoun and hezbollah accepeted it and they said lets name the ministries before we proceed with the plan

  But no M14 wants the election first then the ministries later on , as if they are gonna fool the christians again , by putting michel sleiman and making the government they want….

  So yes it helped the christians , but now we know who doesnt want the christians to have an equal power

• 5. Tarek | January 15th, 2008 at 1:41 pm

  Screw them all. If they really wanted to help Lebanon they would have at lease armed the lebanese army.

• 6. Tarek | January 15th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

  at least*

• 7. Ali1559 beirut | January 15th, 2008 at 2:40 pm

  Hey rodge,

  I am on vacation right now and i dont feel like arguing while having fun,but again you failed in your own trap by blaming aoun for the failure among christianity.Rodge, get out of this aoun delima already and stop being a typical LFer standing behind the wrong ppl. I think you’re a better person than that..

  In fact, Days are showing who doesnt want christianity to prosper!!!!!!!!!! May god bless your KSA alliance in the region. When are you guys going to have the SWORD DANCE ? Your chief G.bush just had one this morning. loooooool.I guess this is where you guys stand now, behind extremism..

  Have fun rodge and always remember , AY LUBNAN NURID? Unfortunately, you have chosen the wrong side.

  Gma now for a better christianity and stronger lebanon.

  Have a good day isteze.

• 8. Danny | January 15th, 2008 at 2:50 pm

  No one is confused. The Aouny orangebutts have their asses in a vice. Nowhere to go. They have one strategy; delay, deelay; delay. Praying that something changes and their idiot orange becomes the prez…

• 9. Rodge | January 15th, 2008 at 5:21 pm

  Guys,

  I hope no one was hurt by the Karantina explosion….
  So it is a message for the Americans now….
  the situation is more and more dangerous.
  Anyoner remember the assassination of the American ambassador in Beirut Francis Maloy in in 1976??? i think we’re seeing similar things at the moment

• 10. Ziad | January 15th, 2008 at 6:23 pm

  Rodge,
  Its an open war now. Khameni said that they will defeat the Americans in Lebanon and that’s the beginning. More to come I am sure.

• 11. Tarek | January 15th, 2008 at 6:51 pm

  If Iran really wanted to fight U.S., it would have helped the resistance in Afghanistan and Iraq. Iran is just playing the role of the “bo3 bo3″ so US can sell weapons to the gulf. Multi billion dollars arms deal is now being negotiated in the gulf. That’s beside the recently made arms deals. With respect to the tension between Iran and U.S, it’s just a play and it’s most entertaining! If the U.S really wanted to back up Lebanon and free it from Iran and Syria it would have at least armed the lebanese army and reduced the Lebanese debt.

• 12. Ali1559 beirut | January 15th, 2008 at 8:36 pm

  Tarek

  For once, I agree with you …

• 13. Condor | January 15th, 2008 at 9:46 pm

  Tarek,

  What interest does Iran have in US selling weapons to the gulf countries? I can uderstand the US crying wolf to scare them but where does this help Iran?

• 14. Tarek | January 16th, 2008 at 12:01 am

  Condor,
  It helps the American Iranian relationship!!! You scare them, I sell them weapons and Iran will get a larger share of the region in addition to more collaboration between U.S and Iran, protecting each other’s necks. Anything going wrong in the region will affect both Iran and the U.S., they both collaborate to make sure that everything will stay under their control and to their benefit.

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