Comments on: Calls in Sudan for Execution of British Teacher http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/ Personal Views and opionions of Lebanese Forces members Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:59:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Ali1559 http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/#comment-163510 Ali1559 Thu, 06 Dec 2007 07:45:54 +0000 http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/#comment-163510 leb voice In politics and ethics , you should not respond to an angry group with your own anger . This will only create chaos. Ma kharjoun education hal 3alam .. kharjoun da3ess bil sermeye, this is WRONG cuz it is coming out of an (suposibly) an educated person. In this is politicaly wrong sitaution , you should accept the blame of your actions and express a sincere apology (at least for his muslims ZA2IFE on the blog) ... PS : ZA2IFE stands for hand clapping and thank you for not being one , good job . leb voice

In politics and ethics , you should not respond to an angry group with your own anger . This will only create chaos.

Ma kharjoun education hal 3alam .. kharjoun da3ess bil sermeye, this is WRONG cuz it is coming out of an (suposibly) an educated person. In this is politicaly wrong sitaution , you should accept the blame of your actions and express a sincere apology (at least for his muslims ZA2IFE on the blog) …

PS : ZA2IFE stands for hand clapping and thank you for not being one , good job .

]]> By: leb voice http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/#comment-163179 leb voice Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:26:21 +0000 http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/#comment-163179 PS: in my post before; 1 bad choice of words: "hateful" meant "angry". PS: in my post before; 1 bad choice of words: “hateful” meant “angry”.

]]> By: leb voice http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/#comment-163177 leb voice Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:23:49 +0000 http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/#comment-163177 Dear Sys, very well said. As u mentioned, it all depends how u read the post. Ali, in politics and ethics there is no such thing as "right is right, wrong is wrong", there are points of view. Instead of saying why u think he is wrong though, u tend to simply analyze his position by linking it to his political status. I do not believe it is the case, people all around the world are outraged at this matter, and i don't think they are all LF :D BTW whats a ZA2iFE??? :S Dear Sys, very well said. As u mentioned, it all depends how u read the post.
Ali, in politics and ethics there is no such thing as “right is right, wrong is wrong”, there are points of view. Instead of saying why u think he is wrong though, u tend to simply analyze his position by linking it to his political status. I do not believe it is the case, people all around the world are outraged at this matter, and i don’t think they are all LF :D
BTW whats a ZA2iFE??? :S

]]> By: SONIA http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/#comment-162755 SONIA Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:40:40 +0000 http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/#comment-162755 What is there to talk about? Some one somewhere made a big mistake,and i don't mean the teacher. What is there to talk about? Some one somewhere made a big mistake,and i don’t mean the teacher.

]]> By: Sys http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/#comment-162611 Sys Wed, 05 Dec 2007 07:09:02 +0000 http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/#comment-162611 Hi. I cannot read N's intentions, thoughts or any other internal processes. But saying "Those people" in a public forum (Although you are entitled to say whatever you want) where there are always some commentators fibrillating with hate is not a good choice of Words. It WILL resonate in an extremely large manner to include a big chunk of the population; in this case, it could be Muslims, Africans or people of lesser socio-economic status etc. Hence, if someone would intensely tell you: "you people" followed by "kharjkoun da3ess bil sermeye", you have to admit that your reaction would be towards generalization. And about “kharjoun da3ess bil sermeye !”, these most degrading words have usually been used in Lebanon to express disdain mixed with an expression of a SUPERIORITY of some kind (racial?); I mean who would you crush with your shoe?? Of course any decision to murder a human being on the account of the name of a teddy bear IS catastrophic, and I understand angry reactions, but not hate. Fortunately it ended well. “…And even if there was a bit of fanaticism, it would only be in response to other fanatics (in which case it’s ethical)….” : This, though, I didn’t get. Is there a limit where fanaticism becomes ethical?? Sorry for being long, and thanks especially to N, for allowing this space. And now, I’ll go and google “sermeye” ;-) Hi.
I cannot read N’s intentions, thoughts or any other internal processes. But saying “Those people” in a public forum (Although you are entitled to say whatever you want) where there are always some commentators fibrillating with hate is not a good choice of Words. It WILL resonate in an extremely large manner to include a big chunk of the population; in this case, it could be Muslims, Africans or people of lesser socio-economic status etc. Hence, if someone would intensely tell you: “you people” followed by “kharjkoun da3ess bil sermeye”, you have to admit that your reaction would be towards generalization.
And about “kharjoun da3ess bil sermeye !”, these most degrading words have usually been used in Lebanon to express disdain mixed with an expression of a SUPERIORITY of some kind (racial?); I mean who would you crush with your shoe??
Of course any decision to murder a human being on the account of the name of a teddy bear IS catastrophic, and I understand angry reactions, but not hate. Fortunately it ended well.

“…And even if there was a bit of fanaticism, it would only be in response to other fanatics (in which case it’s ethical)….” : This, though, I didn’t get. Is there a limit where fanaticism becomes ethical??
Sorry for being long, and thanks especially to N, for allowing this space.
And now, I’ll go and google “sermeye” ;-)

]]> By: Ali1559 http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/#comment-162471 Ali1559 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 03:23:04 +0000 http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/#comment-162471 Lebvoice This is N's blog and he's free to say his words. People in here are free to express their opinions even if their ideas differ from those who they follow ( ouwet) . But, on each and every KHAYBET AMAL, they feel bad about themselves and start throwing verbal racist insults(read #3). They even have difficulty finding the right words to describe their KHAYBET AMAL so they tend to post the way above . Is that right ? In fact, what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. N is completely wrong about this , so his ZA2IFE on the blog . Plz do not be a ZA2IF (eventough i respect the way you apologized on his behalf ). It's really sad to see high educated ppl posting this way. Lebvoice

This is N’s blog and he’s free to say his words. People in here are free to express their opinions even if their ideas differ from those who they follow ( ouwet) . But, on each and every KHAYBET AMAL, they feel bad about themselves and start throwing verbal racist insults(read #3). They even have difficulty finding the right words to describe their KHAYBET AMAL so they tend to post the way above . Is that right ?

In fact, what’s right is right and what’s wrong is wrong. N is completely wrong about this , so his ZA2IFE on the blog . Plz do not be a ZA2IF (eventough i respect the way you apologized on his behalf ). It’s really sad to see high educated ppl posting this way.

]]> By: Ryda http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/#comment-162208 Ryda Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:37:37 +0000 http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/#comment-162208 oh mon dieu c'est hallucinant ! o_o ! le pire c'est que je vois pas en quoi le prénom gêne - même d'un point de vue éthique, c'est pas un crime - . C'est plutot eux qui devraient se faire tuer ... oh mon dieu c’est hallucinant ! o_o !
le pire c’est que je vois pas en quoi le prénom gêne - même d’un point de vue éthique, c’est pas un crime - .
C’est plutot eux qui devraient se faire tuer …

]]> By: Leb voice http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/#comment-162073 Leb voice Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:10:31 +0000 http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/#comment-162073 Once again I repeat what i said to Ali an Sys, HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT MUSLIMS!!! I can say "those people" and mean the people in the picture, that doesn't mean im talking about every single Muslim on this earth... And even if there was a bit of fanaticism, it would only be in response to other fanatics (in which case its ethical). I dont find Nad's comment to be fanatic (if it wasnt for the last tincy weeny bit "i never met a Lebanese Christian" part, but mar2iya ;) ). Elie, those to attack the woman in ure example would be fanatics as well, no questions asked. What the f*** happened to freedom of speech?? It was the Kids who chose to call the teddy "Mohammad" not the teacher, she simply didn't understand the gravity of the matter (if there is any). Does that mean she should be executed? Heck No! BTW: to Sys:I read it time and time again i find the post to be hateful but not the least bit racist/fanatic. Ill apologize for N for not being "politically correct" this time :D Once again I repeat what i said to Ali an Sys, HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT MUSLIMS!!! I can say “those people” and mean the people in the picture, that doesn’t mean im talking about every single Muslim on this earth…
And even if there was a bit of fanaticism, it would only be in response to other fanatics (in which case its ethical).
I dont find Nad’s comment to be fanatic (if it wasnt for the last tincy weeny bit “i never met a Lebanese Christian” part, but mar2iya ;) ).
Elie, those to attack the woman in ure example would be fanatics as well, no questions asked. What the f*** happened to freedom of speech?? It was the Kids who chose to call the teddy “Mohammad” not the teacher, she simply didn’t understand the gravity of the matter (if there is any). Does that mean she should be executed?
Heck No!
BTW: to Sys:I read it time and time again i find the post to be hateful but not the least bit racist/fanatic. Ill apologize for N for not being “politically correct” this time :D

]]> By: esper http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/#comment-161516 esper Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:51:57 +0000 http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/#comment-161516 “…Ma kharjoun education hal 3alam .. kharjoun da3ess bil sermeye !…” repeated specilly for SYS “…Ma kharjoun education hal 3alam .. kharjoun da3ess bil sermeye !…”

repeated specilly for SYS

]]> By: Sys http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/#comment-161322 Sys Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:58:35 +0000 http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/political-islam/calls-in-sudan-for-execution-of-british-teacher/#comment-161322 To nad. You can't respond to racism by racism. Nad, if you're writing what you actually feel, then you're a racist too. To nad.
You can’t respond to racism by racism.
Nad, if you’re writing what you actually feel, then you’re a racist too.

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