Shootout on Kataeb House-Zahle
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Two Kataeb supporters were killed and 10 injured after an Elie Skaff supporter delibraly opened fire on the house.
Salim Assi and Nasry Marouni are the victims ( noting that Nasry is the brother of Elie Maroni, head of the Kataeb sector in Zahle).
The Skaff supporters are from the Zouki family and according to some sources, they are the sons of Ibrahim Zouki, Joseph and Neemeh.
May the victims rest in peace.
Sheikh Amine Gemayel called for an urgent Kataeb meeting tonight.
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1. Johnny.B | April 20th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
allah yer7amon …
w allah ykhalessna ba2a min heik zo3ran filteineh mitel elias skeif w sleiman franjieh w hal orat l-souriyyeh l-zeft …
2. Bachir 7ay Fina | April 20th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
allah yer7amoun.
Elias skaff heda lem2anit sar 3endo zelem halla2.
El mohem enno tet3alla2 machene2oun yalli 2awaso
3. libanon | April 20th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Why is this being made political?
I’m sure him being with skaff was a coincidence.
It was probably a case of some guy who got beaten up by some bullies, so he lost it and got a gun to shoot them all, like the korean in the american university did.
4. Freddy | April 20th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Libanon enta mech ma32oul tkoun gheir hableh.. Nothing to do with politics? Yemkin kamena heneh nta7aro mech hek?
5. Elie.F. | April 20th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
ma tistakhif hal 2ad bil shoohada ya LIBANON, alla yir7am kil el shabeb yalli 3am bitrou7 heik bala to3me. inno aymata badna nokhlas ba2a min el sle7 bi 2id el 3elam and count for once and for all on the lebanese army to end all clashes instead of people finishing it the way they did today?
6. Elie.F. | April 20th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
by the way does anyone doubt that what hapenned today was meant to target Sami Gemayel but the timing was wrong?
7. Mountain | April 20th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
sami ma khasso, sami left before. the killer came after the event and shoot the phalangistes. i dont think it is personal or he was defending himself because the kataeb didnt shout any bullet, and how come he killed them all and escaped if he was defending himself and he was in a fight. the MASSACRE was planned ahead of time.
8. hamilkar | April 20th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
United we stand, Divided we fall.they are still some idiots like skaff ,aoun ,frangieh etc…
don’t understand this quote yet.
9. Tony|ouwet | April 20th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Sami and solonge gemayel are up in za7leh kel el shabeb mjama3in ta ysalmo halon jesh melyen and salim or nasry one of them are newlyweds with 2 babies
w ba3don bi 2oulo el sle7 bi eid el ouwet well kateab well mejermin tab bede es2alon eza el sle7 kelo ma3na leh bas eli 3am bi rou7o da7aya bikoun min 3ena??
10. Tony|ouwet | April 20th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
w kif ma khabarouneh eno sakaro el tari2 el kateab had el maktab 3al eftite7 (security reason for sami and solonge gemayel) so 2 people came who shot said this street isnt for the kateab and started shooting
11. Tony|ouwet | April 20th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
And worstlly the most descrase things that aouniest are saying is that hariri payed people to do this so el sha3biyeh taba3 el tayyar el wataneh el hurr to bi minimized i mean cmon even in facts like these they are brainwashed
ill paste couple that i found in official tayyar gourps on facebook that i saw
guys even that i strongly oppose what happened tonight in zahle
but i think it is a continuation of the hariri plan to mininmize tayyar role and i think that after they could’t push elie skaf to cut his relation with us they are starting to attack him in his home town and tomorrow they will start with tachnak maybe and all the other, it is not innocent action it comes after the inconvincing rallies with the baladieh and makhatir thing it is the same movie
so we must stand along side mr skaf as he did with us and suerly we oppose strongly what happened
and other
even if it’s a message from hariri to continue the devilish plan to weaken GMA. eli skaff is not dumb and will know how to deal with the incident!
12. ben | April 21st, 2008 at 12:35 am
Just a littel reminder ladies and gentleman of who we are dealing with,
Sunday, 26 August, 2007 @ 3:00 PM
Beirut - MP Walid Jumblatt’s Progressive Socialist Party demanded that the head of the Popular Bloc MP Elie Skaff provide evidence that he did not sell land to Iran.
once a traitor always a traitor…
13. Lebanese | April 21st, 2008 at 1:10 am
May God Rest Their Souls in Peace.
Wa nchalla nicklass min hal 2ossas ba2a!
14. Tarek | April 21st, 2008 at 1:31 am
May their souls rest in piece.
Listen to this basterd:
سكاف للـ NTV: تم إطلاق النار بسبب إغلاق طريق نتيجة لإفتتاح مركز للكتائب وأنا لست مسؤولا لأنني لم أرسل أحدا ليقتل أحدا ولا أستطيع أن أكون موجودا في كل
الأماكن لمنع هكذا أفعال!!
سكاف للـ NTV: لماذا إجراء المهرجانات والتظاهرات فنحن لا نستطيع أن نظل قرب المناصرين لنمنعهم من هكذا ردات فعل؟!!!
As if saying I killed them!
15. lebnanese | April 21st, 2008 at 1:40 am
alla yer7amoun…w yer7am jami3 l mawta….
5alas ba2a…..5alsoun badan n3ich….lezim all z politics guys maba2a yet3ato bel siye ye3tezlo…leave lebanon la chabebe….hene ye7kmou w yzabtou…
hope matekbar w nkoun kelna we3yin la tasaroufetna…..
w tkoun z last accident!
16. filov | April 21st, 2008 at 3:58 am
wayniyei el dawlei??!!!
17. Silvana | April 21st, 2008 at 4:07 am
May they R.I.P.
Libanon,
You are a complete moron for giving this analysis, and actually trying to find excuses for such a criminal act.
18. Ali 1559 | April 21st, 2008 at 5:20 am
Once again the ”leadership” in Lebanon has failed its residents. How can someone walk up to a crowd and start shooting?? Are we living in America or Mexico ? I am shocked to see incidents like this happening in ZAHLE!!!
Where are the true leaders in Lebanon?? What a shame ! Plz, come forward for the sake of our country and for all of us who are tired of hearing the same news over and over again. Enough, kilo al la7me bi 15,000 LL !!!!!!!!!!!!!
19. Rodge | April 21st, 2008 at 5:51 am
May they rest in peace,
What is really frustrating is that the killer will get away with this, they will hide it the same way Frangieh did with his man who killed the LF guys in 2005 in Zghorta.
I don’t know till when we’ll still goona lose martyrs for this kind of accidents.
And yet, Elie Skaff tried to wash his hand from that instead of taking full responsibility and bring the killer.
libanon,
Now I know u’re just a mix of Aounist and HA F***ching shit
20. Michele | April 21st, 2008 at 6:30 am
May they rest in peace!!!!
For once ya Ali i approve what u say!
Skaff used to send us candidates to work in Q8; most of them were undeducated with no qualifications. We had to hire 2 eventually. Only 5 months later we had to terminate both as we found out they were stealing from the company and taking commissions from the suppliers; one of them even bought an appartment in Zahlé!!!!!
Just to give u an idea the type of followers this Skaff has!
21. Ali 1559 | April 21st, 2008 at 7:26 am
Rodge
It is pitifully ironic that you are calling LIBANON a mix of aounist and HA f**** sh** ! Actually, I and many HA supporters are dissapointed to see such incidents happening in Zahle. We ( the HA aounist mix) have never been involved with the internal clashes and will never be, trust me. I challenge you to name one incident where HA or FPM used their weapons against their fellow lebanese people. Come on , show me what you got ..
So, would you please (min ba3ed amrak ya kbirna ) spare us the garbage ??
Fact is, this illegal government is designed to give its local political parties (kateeb,fm,ouwet,psp) all the support they need in order to provoke the opposition and drag them down to the street ( i.e tarik al jdide and the PSP shooting in jabal lebnen), agree? Obviously, you guys dont get it, we are not going to be part of your street fighting. We have patriotic goals to achieve in the future while you are trying your very best to maintain your job the way the Americans want you to do.
At last, let those who follow G.bush in lebanon enjoy such evil political situation. More shooting on its way
…
Long live Lebanon ..
22. Ali 1559 | April 21st, 2008 at 7:27 am
Michelle
I am back from vacation now
, are you ready for me ??
23. Michele | April 21st, 2008 at 8:33 am
Ali, i hope u are!!!!!!
Bass naza3ta bil post 21…
FPM & Ha always strive to provoke other parties, with their garbage sit-in, strikes and manifestations..
C’mon ya Ali, for once be objective! Have u forgotten already about Feb 2007?
Is blocking the road, burning tires are not a way to incite troubles among citizens?
24. Rodge | April 21st, 2008 at 10:59 am
Ali1559,
Are you one person with double personnality (schyzophrenia) or there are 2 Alis??
In the space of only 2 hours between the #18 and #21 you have changed a lot, although I prefer the first Ali of #18.
You don’t have the right to defend libanon, and regardless what I accused him of being, you should have kept ur attitude shown in the #18 without trying to defend ur people. I was accusing libanon for what he said, and I was goinf to praise you for what you said, but I changed my mind after I read ur #21.
As for ur question about an HA or FPM using weapons against other Lebanese, Come ooooonnnn, you will keep arguing the same way for 100 years?? so all the incidents that happened during the last 2 years in many places, among them 23 and 25 January 2007 are forgotten, and the Ain Remmaneh bomb, and Mar Mikhael incidents and and etc… and you still saying that???
Even u have a bad memory or you’re ignoring this on purpose, and in both ways it is a shame.
and last, I advice you not to argue about you looking for patriotic issues and we still looking for details, because you won’t fgind any interest in discussing this with me, i can easily beat you in this discussion, and believe me i have a looooooooottt to say.
Finally, I prefer to see the Ali in #18, as for the Ali in #21, as I told you before, just send blank replies to know that u’re still alive
25. Johnny.B | April 21st, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Ali1559,
everybody has guns man, it does not take an amrican or mexican to shoot at people. it only takes a mentally ill person to do such a thing.
26. Tony|ouwet | April 21st, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Ali Cmon you call shooting with a b7 after a speach innocent
You call shooting in the air towards christian areas innocent
I am from hadath and a bullet came right on my cousins front door we where lucky that no one was near the front door.
A women got hit by a hizbollah bullet in ashrafieh after a speach you call that innocent fun after a speach?
Quote you said (We ( the HA aounist mix) have never been involved with the internal clashes)
Are you seriouse???
you forgot all the fights you guys have started around beirut???
A illegal govermant why dont u talk about ure illegal militia
Weapons, Drug Dealing and trafficking the country u call ure enemy (Isreal) thats the country u drug traffic to right.
27. Ali 1559 | April 22nd, 2008 at 8:00 am
Protesting is your constitutional right. We do have the right to stand for our people, principles and country. We can certainly practice our right in a variety of ways: in person, in writing or on the street. As long as we keep our movementys civil and comply with the law, the more democracy we have. Looks like it is legal for you(14th of march)to be on the take and it is illegal to be a 8th marcher? Oh, plz, dont you even talk about feb o7 , we were practicing self defense and nothing esle…
Rodge
I have all the right to defend my ppl here and elsewhere . I have all the right to gve my opinion at any time and any level. The alliance between HA and FPM is the perfect fot for lebanon and its needs. GMA finds himself uniquely positioned to heal THE RELIGION WOUND across lebanon . Due to his patriotic position as a lebanese leader (not just a christian leader) , he is willing to bring our ppl together ,and the 3yn al rimeneh incident was the perfect proof. Rodge, HA never fired a bullet 3la al chari2yeh (same for FPM). Again, spare us the garbage ,sir. And keep in mind that HA are not 7ARAKET AMAL or the verse versa. RAKIZ 3LA HAYDE AL NO2TA YA RODGE!!!! If it wasnt up to HA , amal kenit fetit 3la 3yn al rimeneh that night( I was in lebanon at that time ya sadiki and witnessed the whole situation) yalla 4get it…
One last thing for you buddy, it is precisely this sort of hate ( ouwet hate) that threatens everyone’s freedom. I’m just fed up with your youth spreading their radical views all across lebanon. Enough with you guys.
Johnny
You’re right.
Tony,ouwet
These are fragiles times in lebanon , and the ISF should bahave as a serious straight organization rather than FM thugs. Go take a close look at all the fights and you’ll see what’s really going on.
What illegal militia are you talking about here? We have all the right to resist, sir… no one is going to stop us . Do you know why?? Cuz , we’re AS7AB 7A2!
B3den min 2wass 3laykon? kiff fik ta2kidle 2inon HA ??
28. Ali 1559 | April 22nd, 2008 at 8:01 am
Hey michelle nssi7 7ot issmik first. Ma3 2ino b7ib issmik ktir
… Long live michelle Aoun
..
29. Michele | April 22nd, 2008 at 9:02 am
Ali, I agree that u should add to Michel Aoun a L and a E (Michelle), since HA castrated him…
As for ur reply to Tony, Ouwet, for God sake whom r u foolong here???!!! What r u resisting? So far u are resisting and attacking Lebanese!!!!
30. Rodge | April 22nd, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Ali1559,
I’m from Ain Remmaneh, where i spent most of my life there during and post war, and eventhough i live outside Lebanon now. but i’m still in close contact with my friends and relatives there, my parents are still there, and I know better than you or anyone else what happens there.
It is ur right to defend ur beliefs, ok, but it’s not ur right to consider what u believe in as the truth, so the things u said about Michel Aoun (or Michelle Aoun) does not apply on me, since i have a very different idea about this silly military, and believe me I know a lot of things that u don’t even know they exist, but i will not agree with you on something i’m sure ur blindness will not allow u to understand.
But to say that HA and FPm did had never fired a bullet 3al Shar2ieh, eh la sma7li fiya, first the FPM and Aounists have concentrated all their wars on Shar2ieh since day one when Micho or Micha chosen to declare his first war in late 80s.
As for ur HA friends, I can tell you nstories about their harrassments against Ain Remmaneh and Hadath mainly, and you should ask more about that to find about, and if ur friends are not telling you, it’s because they are lying at you.
On a daily basis there have been harrassments against these areas, with lots of “bullets” involved, and were crowned by the bomb they threw the day of the Shiyah incidents. Don’t tell me they are Amal thugs, they come from both HA and Amal, and saying that without you Amal would have invading us, I assure you that neither you nor anyone can do this, and I advice you to tell ur friends not to try it.
“Yama ablak nass 7abbo ygarrabo, shirbou mor el kass we lessa…”"
Ali, for once stop playing innocence u and ur HA and recognize that u’re similar to all the militias, pretending resistance while the only thing you do is trying to dominate the country.
31. Tony|ouwet | April 23rd, 2008 at 1:37 am
Well after a hassouna speach who shoots up in air im just saying you guys shoot in the air towards christian areas and some bullets hit my cuz front door!!!
Resist what ure puppets for Iran and Syria you just trying to do their jobs.
You guys are the thugs u do something and blame it on someone else.
Eza wahad hara2 sofa 3al tari2 deghreh bet2oulo eno hariri aw geagea 3ateh el mezout
Burning tires and closing roads not thugish
Shooting in the air after a speach and using b7 after a speach isnt thugish?
and u didnt answer me about all the drug trafecking and drug dealing u guys do isnt this thugish?
32. Tony|ouwet | April 23rd, 2008 at 1:40 am
And Thugish hizbollah supporters have bin caught many time robbing hosues in hadath
el az3ar bidalo az3ar
Byetmarjalo 3a banet
etc..
goes on and on
And hizbollah patrols between hadath and dahieh taking police mans guns and questionning people they dont like who do ha think they are the LAW??
33. Ali 1559 | April 23rd, 2008 at 5:33 am
Rodge
Well, I am also from beirut , where I spent my whole entire life (till I turned 21) watching your barbarism on khtout al tamess. And beleive me Khawja, I know what I know about what was really happening on khtout al tamess between you and Amal movement. I still remember as a kid Hbayka’s (Hk) fighter running away to our areas where Nabih berri welcomed them (during tawhid al bundukiye war) W FARACHLON TAPIS ROUGE… Hk fighters refused to give up the fight on that day, ignored berri’s proposal and fought back using their heavy duty machine guns (they were firing min 3la sate7 al bineyeh 3ina) …We begged them to stop bass la 7ayat liman tunadi , balacho kufor fina w harabo mitel li kleb min ba3ed ma ijehon khabar 2ino fi issabet bil saF al teneh. LF SAMIR STORMED OUR BUILDING KILLING 5 KIDS AND 2 WOMEN!!AMAL TOOK THE BLAME FOR WHAT YOUR OWN GUYS DID TO YOU !!!! Are you aware of this incident ya RODGE? Since you know it all(your claim) why dont you share similar incidents with us???? You need to come out of the box you’re living in and share more ideas with us. Khabirne chu ken yssir, dont be an old time LFer
SUMON BUKOM ;), say the truth rodge. Kifne ma3k ? hayda wa7ad.
Second, Micheal Aoun was the army chief habibi. He didnt wage any war agaisnt you. You waged wars against him, you need to get this straight b4 opening your mouth. Think then talk . Also, bala murr al kess bala 7ake fadeh, inta kinet mssala7 w kinet addir te7meh 3yn al rimeneh , but not anymore , chifnekon bil achrafiyehhh laman feto laykon jame3it al 7ariri , wlekkkkkkkkk ru777. kenit siteh sabiyeh ya rodge.kiff? eh kiff?
Third, We will resist till the end. Ama attil aw ma2toul…
34. Ali 1559 | April 23rd, 2008 at 5:44 am
Tony
Your question : and u didnt answer me about all the drug trafecking and drug dealing u guys do isnt this thugish?
Smalah 3lyk , iza kell wa7ad aza3r hachech chii3eh ba3lbake(min taraya) chtara w be3 hachicheh daroure ykun ma7ssub 3la HA? Tab lesh ma bti7ke bi tujar al chmel, hine kamen massi7iye , ya3ne saro kell al massi7oye tujar hachicheh? Come on…
Anyway, Weed is agaisnt the islamic law and HA will never allow in his areas. Wlek l BEER mamnou3 tinbe3 bi manati2 HA. jeye t2ileh hachich ? Ba3den kiff 2ilak 3yn ti7ke za3raneh ya tony ? Ouwatje w 3m ti7ke za3raneh?? walla zaman.. Wlek ma tkun 3m ta3mel mitel rabiaa al khawleh ?
Indeed, al aza3r bidal aza3r.
35. Tony|ouwet | April 23rd, 2008 at 1:59 pm
ANa ma 3am be7keh 3an tejer 3al ter2at eltelak Trafficking ya3neh bi kami kbireh ktir la bled bara!!!
B3albak min 3aylet z3ayter masalan mish minkon??
Bi tejro la isreal 3adouwkon!!!
El beer mamnou3 tenbe3 ok bas kel wahad bi bayto akid byeshrab w byeskar aktar mineh minak!! aktariton.
Tab eleh laken ya Ali nehna kif 3am nkoun zo3ran??
Ne7na eli 3am min rou7 ne7ro2 dwelib w n2awes bel jaw
Ne7na eli 3am bin balesh mashekel
Ne7na eli serna mkhaymin bel downtown aktar min sinet.
Ne7na eli 3am ne23od netro2 atleh la nes 3am bya3mlo sheghlon ta yejo ye2bado el kahraba.
Eza ne7na bsharafak eleh yemken ana ma 3am ba3ref el fare2 bayn el ouwet w Hizbollah
36. Ali 1559 | April 24th, 2008 at 6:21 am
Tonny
You’re talking ka2inak khebizon w 3jinon la hezballah! What do you really know about them beside what you watch on tv?
Although ordinary people cannot remember many of the important events happened in HA early years, these events or incidents do influence HA’s future on all levels.
You say : B3albak min 3aylet z3ayter masalan mish minkon?? Ntibih w sma3neh chu bade 2ilak ya tony, back in 1989 HA kicked sob7i al tufayli out of the party la2ino ken 3m bijami3 al hachecheh w ygahteh 3layon , la2ino ken 3m bi7aridd 3la 7araket amal, la2ino ken 3m bi chari3 attel kell wa7ad mano min HA. za3bo w 7ato ma7allo abbess al mussawi, since then kell al hachecheh dallo wara SOB7I AL TFAYLE w min ba3da sob7i al tfayle 3mil sawret al jiye3 w 7arab al gesh w HA at the same time…. My point, TRAFFICKING is not part of HA’s plan in lebanon. Yimkin ykuno jame3it sob7i al tfayle or others bass ana ba2kidlak manon HA wla khasson bi HA.
Bi tejro la isreal 3adouwkon!!! Israel ma 3yze tujar 3la tarz al lebneniye.
El beer mamnou3 tenbe3 ok bas kel wahad bi bayto akid byeshrab w byeskar aktar mineh minak!! aktariton, kiff bta3ref ? 3ichet ma3on?
At last, ne7na min 7a2na al tabi3eh 2ino nitzahar (back to my comment # 27) , bass 2ossit li 2wass bil hawa ana ma3k , bass chu fina na3mel? We are not everones father ya tony, fi zo3ran bi kell hizeb wel cha3eb al lebneneh kell 3omro aza3r when it comes to shooting in the air…
37. Ali 1559 | April 24th, 2008 at 6:26 am
Tony
Becoming a more open person is not difficult if you’re willing to practice. If you want to improve in this area,beging by looking at all the labanese people as PEOPLE not dogs and traitors.
Back to the difference between HA and ouwet, its simple tony, kell wa7ad 3indo lebneno al khass fi.
When we think FPM ya tony . Everyone wins. Think lebanon first and spare us the religion part. MA BA2 TIKHELTO LI KNISSEH BIL SIYESSEH.
38. Rodge | April 24th, 2008 at 11:48 am
Ali1559
Sorry for being late in replying, but it seems ur post has been under moderation and it didn’t show yesterday.
Anyway, you will never change, you always answer in an unrespectful way (maybe you were raised like that) and also you reply on a totally different issue.
It seems you want to keep on living in the 70s and 80s as your master Aoun and his tayyar.org are. you’re arguing what happened during the war?? maybe u miss war, so come back to Dahieh and go with ur friemds HA to the south and u will live war again.
All what you said in ur reply are bullshit and nothing deserves a reply. I resent ur way of talking to me and I urge you to open ur eyes on what is happeneing now, not what happened years ago. what is happening now is the following:
Michel Aoun is full of shit.
Hassan Nasrallah is the shit himself.
Nabih Berri is something below shit.
you are wasting Lebanon and if you will keep ur eyes and minds closed you will lose your own pants, those 3 that I mentioned will take it from you.
For me ya Ali you’re an extremist Shiites who does not read or see what’s further than his nose, and i’m threw with you, I thought i’m talking to a respectful man, but experience proved that u’re not more than a baby who’s always looking for his mom to feed him.
I tried to discuss importnat things with you, to trade ideas in a respectful way, but it seems it was in vain, u’re really a hopeless case
39. C.R | April 26th, 2008 at 6:22 am
Rodge
You went very low. You’re sick!!
40. Ali 1559 | April 27th, 2008 at 8:37 am
Rodge
Read my comment on aoun with another quote . I left you a msg to read there , nchala tifhama bass la2inak sayer mitel ma samek wassim min abel . ya3ne ghashim !!
41. Ali 1559 | April 27th, 2008 at 8:39 am
C.R
No he didnt go low ya sadiki, he is like that all the time, zake zameno ..
42. Rodge | April 27th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
to Ali1559, CR and the rest,
Thank you for considering some of your valuable time to reply on me, but it seems you will not change and you will not be able to come up from your downlow life you’ve been and you still are in.
I said I don’t want to reply anymore, and in fact I will not, cause I prefer to give my time for someone or something that deserves it, and I was amazed how could mr. CR interfer in something he has nothing to do with it. I was arguing with Ali, so what the hell other people have to do with that.
So for all of you, I have one thing to say, keep barking during the night as much as you want, but our LF will continue walking till we achieve victory for our Lebanon.
From now on I will only discuss with normal people, so u’re not included of course
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