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• 1. Maximus | October 30th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

  We are lucky to have a moral authority that remind everybody the basic principles of a demoicracy:
  - No private militias in a democracy- democracy is when all citizens renounce to their private justice and private security in favor of common laws that apply to ALL. Constitution (Taef) never mentionned “sectarian resistance” to Israel and Hizballah is an outlaw organization linked to a foreign country.
  - Elections are made to peacefully determine between two or more projects and make the majority winer apply its project, and the minority monitor the respet by the winner of the rules in applying his project. Two opposite projects exists in Lebanon and one should prevail. When the majority accept to exercic epower with the minority, it means that it is renouncing to its project. We did not elect them for that.

  Doc, Ja3far & Co
  akid mesh mwef2in. But try to stay courteous in your comments…

• 2. danny | October 30th, 2009 at 5:05 pm

  I don’t think the Batrak is saying anything untrue….After all the king Rat Nassrallah admitted to his allegiance to Persia and Khamaeini…He even promised our limbs and sacrifice of all Lebanese to “defend” Persia…

• 3. mano | October 30th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

  wlak shu hal wisdom smalla

• 4. paul | October 30th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

  we still have some real men who declare one’s opinion without fear from the death,not like michel aoun the sissy.

• 5. Darwish | October 30th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

  Everyone knows that hizb’s master is in Iran, that is the best known *secret* around!

• 6. Reminder | October 30th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

  Sfeir is supposedly a man of God, applies the teachings of Christ, is someone whom us Christians can look up to. Yet somehow he is interfering into politics, which as a christian cleric is not allowed, taking sides, attacking a well respected christian leader who, whether you like it or not, represents 52% of the christians in Lebanon, and you expect me to listen to him?

  If Hizb’s master is Iran, what is Sfeir’s? Geagea? Money? I can suspect so since from time to time who speaks of Harriri as if he were the best leader on earth and a “friend” to christians. Suddenly Sfeir is too old to remember what Rafic has done to his people. I advise Sfeir to instead of wasting his time giving us his opinion on tv arrogantly, he could read the bible again as he seems to have forgotten about how a cleric and christian should act. or whom he should follow. or how “christian” poeple like Geagea are. or how christian it is to discriminate against entire races.
  Sfeir is bringing shame on maronites in Lebanon. Bravo 3ale. Probably the worst Patriarch we ever had.

• 7. Darwish | October 30th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

  wlak ya Reminder Why do you deny the obvious? I mean Hassan Nasrallah himself does not make any effort to conceal where his true allegiance is when he elevates and praises khamenei and defends the iranian leadership without hesitating. I do not like to see Sfeir involved in politics either, but what he is stating here is the obvious thing and no one can deny that fact…not even GMA. If you approve of hizb’s policies, then say so without trying to distort the truth that we already know, it really puts your credibility into question.

• 8. INCO | October 30th, 2009 at 6:04 pm

  I like comments like #7
  typical aouny ” iza mech ma3na ya3né mertéché” even if it’s the patriarch!!!!
  wlek WAKE UP!!! an 82 year old man mertéché!!!!!!!

  50 or 100 years from now when history will be written everyone will say what a courageous and true Patriarch is Mar nasrallah boutros sfeir

• 9. ja3far | October 30th, 2009 at 6:23 pm

  it is agreed that we all have diferent visions to lebanon ..
  the batrak can say that HA dont serve the interest of lebanon the way he see it.. no problem, we have a diferent vision of lebanon then the batrak, or u guys who believe lebanon should be federalism .. do u have the same vision of lebanon then the batrack? does he think that u are working for the interest of lebanon through dividing it?

  on the other hand, personaly i believe that the batrach is trying to give a push for the M14 christinas as the Aoun harriri agreement doesnt seem to be a big pleasure

• 10. Maximus | October 30th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

  They can’t deny what the Patriarch said because it is reality;
  They can’t defend what he is denouncing because it will discredit them;
  And they can’t support hearing him saying it
  So they denigrate and insult him…

• 11. Maximus | October 30th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

  Thank you Ja3far
  I apreciate when you give your opinion with respect to others ones. That makes the dialogue very constructive.

• 12. Alyssa | October 30th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

  may god protect our patriach from the evil that curse his name for telling the truth.
  god bless christianity in Lebanon.

• 13. ja3far | October 30th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

  my pleasure maximus.. am with a respectful type of dialogues…
  but to tell u the truth ,i dont believe calling the other a traitor the way the batrack is doing is for the best of lebanon..
  another point,and with no offense, i dont think there is still a majority in M14 that can rule alone the way the batrack was asking in his interview…
  yallah kheir…

• 14. LF | October 30th, 2009 at 7:00 pm

  Of course Reminder doesn’t listen to patriarch Sfeir, since he thinks that Aoun is the patriarch.

• 15. paul | October 30th, 2009 at 7:07 pm

  if it is not allowed for a cleric to talk about politic,then why it is allowed for a politician to talk about religion.

  aoun said always that he sepresent the majority of the christians.
  Hezbollah represent the islamic resistence in lebanon.

  fadlallah dont talk about beautyfull weather on tv.

  i agree with ja3far as long as we dont speak about our fearness and about what depressed us,we will never get out from the dialogue of deafs.

  if sfeir one day said he will visit bashar assad 8marcher will claim him as a saint.

• 16. Reminder | October 30th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

  Politicians don’t aren’t talking about religion when they say they represent the majority of a certain sect, thats politics.

  No I don’t think that Aoun is the patriarch because Frangieh is the Patriarch. lol.

  What the Patriarch is saying is not reality. Besides let us consider that it is, why didn’t we hear him speak out against Walid Jumblat for switching sides, or for calling all maronites as “jenes 3atel” before the elections? Why doesn’t he criticize (yet even he praises) Harriri for refusing to grant the president more powers by changing the Taef? Isn’t he supposedly against that?

• 17. Son of Ehden | October 30th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

  The Patriarch is the head of our church. If we do disagree with him, it should be done behind closed doors, one on one.
  I agree with him completly but i wish the church can play a bigger role in uniting the maronites and the christians.

  It is incredible how quickly people forget. Did the Aounieh forget that it was Michel Aoun who called Hizbullah syrian and iranian agents?

  This is just to show you that the majority of the followers, of all the different political parties resemble more sheeps than human beings.

  Pitty such a nation with such citizens…

• 18. PIERRE | October 30th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

  Just because a person is a religious figure it does not mean he should not voice his opinions on politics. At the end of the day politics influences people daily lives and the church and the head of the church is trying to guide his community. Are men of the church running for elections? NO are they armed and force you to do something you dont want to? NO. So it is up to you because the Patriarch or the church does not force you to follow one line or the other. They do have an opinion and they are free to voice it.

• 19. Darwish | October 30th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

  Pierre, The church can voice its opinions on daily matters that affect people’s lives and it should, but without openly taking sides one way or the other.

• 20. Lebanonhsh | October 30th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

  just a push for M14 leaders..don’t overthink about it

• 21. avi | October 30th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

  It’s like so obvious….at least there is one responsible Arab leader in Lebanon………he also from what I heard advocates peace with Israelis ,he is the only moderate in Lebanon and a precious asset.

• 22. Maximus | October 30th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

  Avi
  The Maronite Patriarch an “Arab leader”?
  Not each non-jewish in the Middle-East is an “Arab”.
  Maronite is his identity.
  You know, in the Middle-East, there are Jewish and Arabs but also Kurds, Persians, Turks, Armenians, Copts, Assyrians, and Maronites and others.
  You and the Arabs think you are alone here and others must align with or without you. Maronites are neither with Jews nor with Arabs. They are Maronite and this is sufficient.

• 23. avi | October 30th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

  Maximus I thought the Christians in Lebanon were Arabs my mistake ,I just wanted to praise what I see as a moderate and peace loving leader.No offense intended ,I did not know that Maronites were not Arabs.

• 24. avi | October 30th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

  And Maximus how could I know this since the border is closed…Lebanon is not exactly Egypt……….

• 25. danny | October 30th, 2009 at 10:54 pm

  #14…

  J, I am a bit confused did he call HA traitors? If not; please do not put words in his mouth. As for majority; if M14 are not the majority as per your suggestion, then problem solved…CORRECT??? M8 should be able to nominate their guy and form the government…
  But wait a minute the majority still nominated M14 Saad hariri…

  Wallahi you read tea leaves way too much. Stick to reading it my friend…

• 26. danny | October 30th, 2009 at 11:00 pm

  J,

  i meant drinking it without a micki though…

• 27. paul | October 30th, 2009 at 11:03 pm

  who said that religious figures have no right to take side in political conflicts.

  the oldest religions in the history of humanity was always present in important and in daily occurrence side by side with kings and rulers , they even declare war against other coutrys when they was in danger,and now we have the same situation in lebanon.

  Sfeir is a honest man and we should be happy to have someone like him.

• 28. Alyssa | October 30th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

  Son of Ehden i agree i wish the church wud play a greater role in uniting the christians in lebanon but this is difficult its a political-feudal dispute that divides chrisians not religious.
  when aoun is trying to turn christians against the church listening under his fake banner of “secularism” and bad mouthing sfeir they are limited to choices

• 29. Mary | October 30th, 2009 at 11:57 pm

  ya3ne into sha3eb la byenmasha warakoun wla 2eddemkoun!
  If the Patriarch speaks what’s on his mind byesma3 hake mitl #2, w iza ma heke byetla3 I don’t know what… traitor maybe!
  The problem is no one dares to reply to what he’s saying… let HA wright a statement tomorrow denying what the Patriarch had accused them… I bet you they won’t! but of course our smart Aounies on this blog are the first to reply and defend HA. very smart indeed.

• 30. THERESINIA | October 31st, 2009 at 12:21 am

  Avi,

  You shall receive soon a full explanation concerning that matter!

• 31. THERESINIA | October 31st, 2009 at 12:26 am

  7aram ya chabeb, walaw HA is serving Iran? shu hal 7akeh!!!

  HA is the “army of Iran in Lebanon”….

  but…it is forbidden to make remarks on HA…why? because they have weapons. It is weapons which is making them powerful: not intelligence, not education, not liberty, not democratic values, not friendliness, not peace loving, not serving others, not freedom, not respect!!!!

• 32. HammerHead | October 31st, 2009 at 5:53 am

  When HA supporters ( or any other party) start paying the electricity bills bl da7yeh and become civilized, I will say Lebanon comes first to them.

  When hasan nesrallah says: “Sayabqa 3arin l asad fi dimachk, 3arinan li qoulli ousoudi Loubnan” I cannot in any way believe that Lebanon’s interest comes first to him!

  FACTS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS! Eno iza 7at chakhsiyyet souriyya abel chakhsiyyet Lebnen, sa3bi ktir y7et Iran first. Ba3ed fi wafa?!

  A joke would not hurt anyways:

  Nchalla te3jabkon chabeb.

  2al chou atyab 2ekli 3end rjeil l din?

  Kebbi bl sayniyyi (throw in the pot) !

• 33. Doc1559 | October 31st, 2009 at 7:00 am

  Reminder 17

  عون، لدى سؤاله عن موقفه من كلام صفير الأخير، قال: “إنّ أفضل رد هو عدم الرد، فالحركة مكشوفة ولن ننجرّ إلى ما يريده البعض

  With a change of status and regional positions Bkerki’s conditions will also change.

  Istez Berri, Sheikh Hariri,General Aoun, Junblat beyk and Sayed Nassralah are all showing positive attitude toward forming a new and united gov,even if hariri has to wait another year before forming it.

  Out of nowhere, Nassralah Sfeir, once again, have decided to play the divider role in order to increase hatred among the Leb ppl, including his own sec.. pressured by Samir Geagea and the rest of the crew around him, he spew his venom using the same tactic he used in the past. 2inu chu 2ilo ma3na 7akyo ?? bala ta3meh w ma bi ma7alo.. bi zakirne bi Junblat ayem sawret al batata.

  Again , إنّ أفضل رد هو عدم الرد، فالحركة مكشوفة ولن ننجرّ إلى ما يريده البعض

  do not answer him who tries to provoke you.. bi lebneneh : ZBILO !!! mitel mabu al general bi sir zakirne la zakrak..

  GMA will not sell his rights in return of anything. ittisalet iza mish la bassil ra7 bitdala ma3 al takatol…no exception !!

• 34. Doc1559 | October 31st, 2009 at 8:16 am

  Maximus 1

  عون، لدى سؤاله عن موقفه من كلام صفير الأخير، قال: “إنّ أفضل رد هو عدم الرد، فالحركة مكشوفة ولن ننجرّ إلى ما يريده البعض

  al ba3ed ya3ne yourself and the batrak. Ma ba2 badna nred 3la al batrak.. khali ye7ke mitel ma badu w ne7na mna3mel mitel ma badna..

  Often عدم الرد، returns prove as beneficial as big profits. GMA knows best..

• 35. Lebanonjon | October 31st, 2009 at 10:45 am

  Doc, if general wanted to give your wife to HA to have some more Iranian babies , would you accept…..because it sure sounds like it may have happened already

• 36. paul | October 31st, 2009 at 11:19 am

  Doc and the logic of aoun…إنّ أفضل رد هو عدم الرد،
  ok BUT… فالحركة مكشوفة ولن ننجرّ إلى ما يريده البعض …rad wkhallas.

• 37. Reminder | October 31st, 2009 at 11:51 am

  I keep wondering why hasn’t anyone answered me why didn’t the Patriarch criticize Jumblat or Harriri for what each has done? Why not accuse KSA of interfering into Lebanese politics? (which is very obvious!). Why are those who speak of democracy & freedom of speech, dare not to lift a finger against KSA for closing LBC’s offices in their country just because of a stupid episode of “Ahmar bel khat el 3arid”?

  Alyssa yes secularism is the best option for Lebanon and every other country in the world. It is not coincidence that just when the Church was seperated from the government and politics in Europe (France in late 18th century, England gradually ect..) Europe thrived into innovation and modernization. It is no coincidence that the most advanced countries (west) are countires where the Church has no power or say in politics whereas countries that allow (yet adore) clerics to interfer (Middle East & other 3rd world countries) are 3rd world countires paralyzed by conflict & poverty. Religion must be seperated from the state! Of course backwarded people can’t understand that.

• 38. nectarios | October 31st, 2009 at 12:26 pm

  FACTS CONCERNING SECULARISM VIEWED AS THE SOLUTION OF THE PROBLEMS

  Innovation and modernization started in Europe since the XIVth century slowly first and it accelerated in the XIXth century…

  The oldest universities in Europe have been founded by the Roman Catholic Church (Florence, Sorbonne, Oxford…).

  The last religion war in Europe ended in 1648 (between catholic states and protestant states) and since then there were no more religious wars.

  The two big wars (1914) and (1940) were not religious; sometimes people say that Hitler was catholic while the truth is that nazism despised very deeply the christianism .

  Western secularism as it is practiced presupposes atheism or a a very feeble faith;it is likely that it does apply to many lebanese “christians” but not to the muslims for obvious reasons.

• 39. THERESINIA | October 31st, 2009 at 12:26 pm

  The Batrak is telling the truth. If he is not entitled to tell the truth who is?

• 40. Reminder | October 31st, 2009 at 1:42 pm

  It accelerated in the 19th century, when religion and state were SEPERATED. Because religion was slowing it down with its inquisitions and holy wars.

  The Roman Catholic church had the ability to estabish churches because it had the money and land to do so! It also had the ability to purge people like Galileo for speaking the truth! If Galileo was burned, what were they teaching those poor kids?

  The last religous war did end in 1648, but do you have any idea how many they were before that??

  Hitler was not a catholic but that has nothing to do with secularism.

  The best universities now are not catholic or protestant universities but Liberal universities.

  Secularism has nohting to do with aetheism or weak faith, may I remind you that a statistic in the USA concluded that 40% of US christians attended mass on weekly basis. Is that feeble faith? In europe the % may be less but the faith is quite strong especially (and ironically) in the eastern european countries.

  So yes secularism can and should be applied in Lebanon and has nothing to do with faith!

  Theresinia if the batrak wants to say the truth then he should say the turth the whole and truth and nothing but the truth. i.e include harriri jumblat in his criticism!

• 41. Maximus | October 31st, 2009 at 4:14 pm

  Doc 34
  “Istez Berri, Sheikh Hariri,General Aoun, Junblat beyk and Sayed Nassralah are all showing positive attitude toward forming a new and united gov”…
  Yes, nothing new…When Syria, Saudi Arabia and Iran are OK, their proxies in Lebanon are also ok. If the LF and the Batrak hold their positions against those oriental despots, there is also nothing new. We are back to 1990-2005. The difference is that Aoun is now openly with them. Before 1990, he was just a 5th column…

• 42. THERESINIA | October 31st, 2009 at 10:00 pm

  Reminder,

  The best universities in the USA are Catholic universities (or Christian universities). please update your info…Georgetown, BU, Notre Dame, Stanford, etc..
  In Lebanon also…

• 43. THERESINIA | October 31st, 2009 at 10:02 pm

  Reminder,

  I remind you that the people who are insulting the Batrak have been initiated by the Caporal. This caporal will be listed in our History as the greatest propagator of HATRED among christians.

• 44. avi | November 1st, 2009 at 12:00 am

  Theresina I am still not convinced about the Maronites not being Arabs; because I remember Patriarch Nasrallah Sfeir saying that the Maronite church is the church of the Arabs….so I am a little confused after my brief dialogue earlier on with Maximus.Please I need explanation……

• 45. Alyssa | November 1st, 2009 at 12:39 am

  avi, your confused about how things work here in Lebanon. Nearly no christian here included the orthodox considered themselves arabs or feel any connection with the arab culture (if there is such a thing). Only famous lebanese christians like the singers say they are arabs to avoid being boycotted by the arab world because many Muslims and Arabs wont accept lebanon as anything else but Arab. Then there is a tiny minority like the dhmmi Julia Boutros who live in a pan-arab leftist dream and are part of such a small minority they arent even worth mentioning. but they do get around.

  Now i would like to see were sfeir called the maronite church “church ofarabs”?
  Even if he said anything like this it doesnt mean its what he believes or what most christians accept or feel. many others only say things like that to appease the muslim population here or avoid conflict with them since they feel strongly with the arab identidy. Also it also comes down to the taif
  because of a bozo called Gen.Majnoun we had to sign in desperation that is part of the agreement. if you read the manifesto of Taif written by saudis it states strongly on the emphasis on Lebanon’s “arab identidy”
  and that all lebanese are arabs and that to have peace we must accpet it blah blah blah lebanon is arab land.
  If it were up to me the Taif agreement which has been broken on many occasions would be scrapped. if bachir had not been killed we wud had never have signed it or needed too.

• 46. avi | November 1st, 2009 at 1:55 am

  But still you speak Arabic ,you are of Arabic descent and culture and many have Arabic names and many are more preoccupied with the Palestinian cause than anything else I still don’t fallow why are you not Arabs???…….

• 47. avi | November 1st, 2009 at 2:01 am

  I once saw this film called West Beirut THERESINIA ;a lebanese movie and this Sunni Lebanese kid was telling his father we are pheniciens not Arabs,so his father answers him where did you learn that??,…the kid answers in school….so the father asks in what class did you learn that??… so the kid answers in Arab history class…..so I still wonder THERESINIA,and any way for me there is nothing wrong with being Arab.

• 48. avi | November 1st, 2009 at 2:03 am

  ***my mistake Alyssa…sorry (comment 48)

• 49. Maximus | November 1st, 2009 at 2:16 am

  Avi
  Just few elements
  - In the 7th century, Maronites fought for decades against Arabs, who arrived as conquerors from the desert, and forbid them entering in the Lebanese mountains. The Maronites fortified themselves in the mountains until the arriving of the Crusaders with whom Maronites mixed during two centuries making them genetically a mix of Syriacs, perso-causasian (mardaïtes warriors brought by Byzantines to Lebanon as mercenaries to fight arabs alongside Maronites and who stayed their) and European. On cultural level, thanks to our catholicism, we maintained a relation with western Europe since the Crusaders (A Maronite patriarch participated to the 4th Council of Latran in 1215 and Maronites etsablished the Maronite COllege in Rome inthe 16th century). So our history and cultural identity have deveopped in union with european christianity and not, as our Lebanese muslim brother (broother in passeport), in Bagdad, Damascus or Cairo;
  - Maronites did not speak arabic until the 19th century;
  - In 1943, Christians of Lebanon and Muslims of the region attached to the Christian majority Mount-Lebanon (Beirut, South, Tripoli, Bekaa) adopted a mic-mac political formula: No East-No West. Maronites will not seak the West and Muslims will not seak the East. For political reasons Lebanon is declared with “arab face”…
  - In 1989, after the calamity Aoun wars and the weakening of the Christians, Muslims exiged a new formula: Lebanon became “arab”.

  But, if the Republic is “arab”, people of Lebanon are not all arabs. (cf. Genographic Project which demonstrates the presence in lebanon of the Phoenician gene, the arabic gene, a turko-anatolian gene and a europena gene). Identity can not be imposed on people by wars and we don’t change our identity each time we change our Constitution. Our identity is our genes and soul. Th eproblem with arabs is their profound refusal of the existence of any different culture in the Middle-East. You jews have an idea of that…The Kurds two…

• 50. avi | November 1st, 2009 at 2:20 am

  Th eproblem with arabs is their profound refusal of the existence of any different culture in the Middle-East. You jews have an idea of that…The Kurds two…

  Everything was fine man a part from the last sentence and why would we have no idea about that who are you trying to divide we know this for sure!!!

• 51. THERESINIA | November 1st, 2009 at 3:07 am

  Avi,

  The explanations given by Maximus are more than exact and correct. Now, let me tell you this story (if you have time):
  When my father was in Paris, he discussed this issue with French politicians who during a dinner said:”the Lebanese are arabs”.
  My father answered:”are the Austrian germans”? They said “Of course NOT”. My father followed by asking: “are the Belgian french, and the Swiss partially french and partially Germans ?” They said of course NOT. My father said: “so language is not a criteria of national belonging.”
  My father said : “let us look at other criteria: religion for example”. “Most of the arabs are muslims”; “are all the Lebanese muslims?”. They said “NO”. So the religious criteria also doesn’t apply.
  My father continued: “let us look at the Geographical criteria: the arab world. Some 70 years ago, the area was called the Levant, then the name was changed to the “Near East”, then a few year later it was changed to the “Middle East” which is wider and contains more arab countries (but it also contains Israel and Cyprus) and because it contains lots of arab countries does it make Lebanon an arab country?”. They said : “NO”.
  So the Geographical criteria doesn’t also apply (even if Nasser was behind its creation: The arab world from the Atlantic to the Gulf -min al mu7hiit ila al Khaliij -).
  My father continued:”let us verify the criteria of ancestry. Who are our ancestors. Lebanon has been invaded by the Greek, by the Romans, by the Crusaders, by the Byzantines, by the Turks (400 years), and before all that for a thousand years the people who lived there were called Phoenicians. So who are our ancestors? At best we are a mixture of everything, but certainly NOT of arabs, do you agree?”. They said “YES”.
  So the Ancestry criteria doesn’t apply for lebanese to be arabs.
  A question to you: “why are you proud that your great city MARSEILLE was a phoenician port (Marsa 2iil = the port of god)? Why Tunisians are proud to claim their phoenician ancestry for Carthaja? Why Malta and Sicily are proud, and we the Lebanese are NOT ALLOWED to be proud of the same?”
  My father continued: “Let us now look at the political criteria”. Lebanon is member of the Arab League. But, so also is Djibouti which doesn’t speak arabic and is not in the arab region. Djibouti was accepted as a member immediately after its independence 25 years ago…only because its religion is Islam”…so the Arab League has accepted a member which is not an arab country. Does the membership of Lebanon makes it an arab country?” They said :”NO”. So the political criteria doesn’t apply.
  Finally, let us look at the last criteria:The CULTURE. “Is the culture in Lebanon, similar to the culture in the arab countries?”. They said:”of course NOT”.

  So my father said:”WHY THEN DO YOU WANT TO CALL US ARABS?”

  If we were arabs, we had no shame to be arabs. But WE ARE NOT.

  I hope I have answered your question.

  By the way AVI, Israel is also an arab country, NO????

• 52. Mike | November 1st, 2009 at 3:23 am

  “Maximus I thought the Christians in Lebanon were Arabs my mistake ,I just wanted to praise what I see as a moderate and peace loving leader.No offense intended ,I did not know that Maronites were not Arabs.”- avi

  This shows you are totally unqaulified to post here. You don’t even know the Lebanese Christian identity.

• 53. Maximus | November 1st, 2009 at 3:27 am

  Avi
  Do you understand english?
  I said: Th eproblem with arabs is their profound refusal of the existence of any different culture in the Middle-East. You jews have an idea of that…The Kurds two…
  What Jews and Kurds share? they are not arabs. So? They must, as we Maronites, be facing arab refusal of the existence of non arabs in the Middle-East…So?

  היהודים הכורדים מול אותה בעיה המארונים
  לַיְלָה טוֹב

• 54. LKM | November 1st, 2009 at 4:30 am

  Leave Bkerki alone. Leave us alone, we’re tired of your wars and would like to live in peace.

  Aoun is a cancer so you are..

  7ilo 3na ba2, ma khalaytu massi7e 2ila ma harab min arafkun ya 3wniye ya kleb hizballah..

  Question: How much do you get paid to do this ??

• 55. Mike | November 1st, 2009 at 4:40 am

  Kurdish Jews and maronites under different circumstances.

• 56. Mike | November 1st, 2009 at 7:04 am

  El Batrak is a really smart guy. This message has three meanings in my opinion.
  1.)Fighting under the Islamic Resistance is not purely Lebanese compared to our Christian background.
  2.)Appeasing the Vatican’s view on Hezbollah.
  3.)Telling the Israelies indirectly that we did not choose Hezbollah and to spare the Christian areas in the next war.

• 57. Reminder | November 1st, 2009 at 7:44 am

  Theresina you are so right! Because Georgetown Stanford ect.. are the best universities in the US! not the IVY LEAGUE schools! Gosh I am so stupid! The same applies to Spain!the Instituo (which is a liberal university) is not the best university by far in spain right? London school of economics is also the worst niversity in England? Universite Libre de Bruxelle is the absolute worst in Belgium right? Are you purposefully blinding yourself or are you retarded?

  The greatest propagators of hatred are people who speak against entire races or religous sects! like Geagea or the batrak for discriminating against a sect in Lebanon. When has the General done such a thing? History favors the triumphant only, for it is he who writes it! Therefore it is not yet sure how history will explain what happened here during this time. But what is sure is that time doesn’t forgive. soon enough time will not forgive the batrak for his acts, he might regret it (if he has a conscious) but it will be too late. With time you will see.

• 58. Doc1559 | November 1st, 2009 at 9:28 am

  Maximus

  It is possible to predict what the future holds for bkerki, ouwet and all of the M14 Christian movements, it is going to a harsh disappointment,no doubt about it.. yes it is the 1990 – 1005 era.. yes it is the 1982 to 1990 era.. yes it is the 1975 to 1982 era.. yes it is your lack of vision that always leads you to such failures…

  Whatever may happen in the short term, no one can doubt that that ouwatje batrak of yours is the one working againt a big portion of the Lebanese Christians and some of the shiite while turning a blind eye toward what both sunnis and druze are doing… History won’t be to batrak, you’ll see !!

  Bottom line, bkerki ma3 ness dod ness w ma3 tayyar dod tayyar, ma7ssubin 3la al hariri .. laman ydi2o al beb ra7 nssami3on al jaweb : فليصرخ الصارخون كيفما شاؤوا المقاومة هي قوة لبنان

  Time for you guys to learn from GMA..

• 59. Doc1559 | November 1st, 2009 at 9:41 am

  Funny comments LOL..

  I said this b4 and I am going to say it again; secularism, far from being anti-religion is what we exactly need in Lebanon.

  Since independence, both Islam and Christianity failed to understand and appreciate Lebanon’s rich traditions and diversity. Therfore, we need to keep them at home and in our hearts where they should be and not in our constitution and daily life style…

  Go general…

• 60. THERESINIA | November 1st, 2009 at 2:49 pm

  Reminder,

  I did not say that were no good private or public universities other than religious (christians) one. I said something which is absolutely exact (up to you to learn) that some of the best universities (schools and colleges) in the US and Europe were Christians.
  Please go and revise your info.

  As for the Caporal, nothing can stop you from following someone who is a MARIID and a mentally ill person…

• 61. avi | November 1st, 2009 at 3:11 pm

  Well it is because I know a Coptic Egyptian who told me all Christians were Arabs that’s why I am confused…and Mike I give the Israeli perspective and unlike you I do not know everything ……

• 62. Reminder | November 1st, 2009 at 3:25 pm

  Theresinia, I am not saying that christian universities are bad, but during the past centuries the church did not allow much fore innovation. Again remember Galileo and other such scientists..or remember the inquisitions such as the spannish…check ur info! the seperation of the chruch from the state is ideal! how can this mentally ill person hae achieved so much anyways? if he wasn’t in fact mentally ill? besides its a know fact that what seperates insanity from genuis is a very thin line…

• 63. THERESINIA | November 1st, 2009 at 3:35 pm

  Reminder,

  How can you accept to follow someone who is INSANE???

• 64. Reminder | November 1st, 2009 at 4:28 pm

  he is a genuis moron! there is a thin line between the 2..aoun is on the genuis side… believe it or not….how can u (some1 who is so profound of chrsitianity) follow some1 like geagea or the LF all in all? are the crimes that they committed chrsitian?

• 65. Alyssa | November 1st, 2009 at 7:59 pm

  Reminder,
  Secularism at the moment is not the best option for Lebanon, defitenly not for christians. The only people who think that are the muslims (ironically for sectarian reasons) and some stupid dhimmi leftists. A secular system needs a secular people otherwise the moslems who many of whom put their religion above their nationality wud take advantage of this fake system to politically allienate the power christians have and
  Lebanon can never be secular as long as its declared Arab. Then it wud be falling in line of Arab nationalism rather than Lebanese Nationalism. We all know Arab nationalism is nothing more than a watered down version of
  Islamism.

  Why do you think the Islamic clerics
  have call for the sectarian system to be abolished? reminder, remind urself to wake up.

  Aoun attacked fellow christians in the
  name of “cleaning lebanon of millitas” and secularism yet he went on to accept a radical shia islamic millita who refuse to give their weapons to the state and occupy parts of this country.
  So much for secularism and cleaning lebanon of millitas. wake up Just wanna see the tayyar’s fate after Aoun, and how long it will take now for the sheep to wake up and realize aoun has sold his ass to iran and syria. only hope for christians is to unite and revive the lebanese front or a equivalent.

• 66. THERESINIA | November 1st, 2009 at 9:16 pm

  Reminder,

  I am NOT a follower of the L.F., I found this blog to write on the caporal who betrayed all his values and principles. Everything he said from 1977 to 2005 is exactly the opposite to what he is saying after his arrival to Lebanon and becoming a Syrian agent!!!

  He is a corrupt man….he who was fighting corruption!!!! Look at how he is covering the Im-Bassil…the new multimillionnaire….

• 67. Alyssa | November 1st, 2009 at 9:35 pm

  correction par 66 and…*marginalize christians

• 68. Alyssa | November 1st, 2009 at 9:35 pm

  not 66 i mean 65

• 69. THERESINIA | November 2nd, 2009 at 12:59 am

  Avi,

  You are right. Copts in Egypt are called “arab christians”..;as well as “christians” in Iraq. But there is no comparison with Lebanon. Actually, most of the lebanese people (Christians, Muslims, Druze,) are NOT arabs. Another heresy would be to say that Iranians are arabs.

  This very problem stems from Political alliances
  search for entity and identity and above all fanatism.

  You never answered the question: “are israelis arabs?…..why? or Why not?

• 70. avi | November 2nd, 2009 at 1:08 am

  Of coarse not ,Israelis are Hebrews…descendant of Jacob,while the Arabs are descendant of Ishmael so we are half brothers but have different languages culture and are of different people.But the difference with the Christians we are not arabised which means we can not be forced to take Arabic as a language or the dominant religion.

• 71. avi | November 2nd, 2009 at 1:10 am

  I mean submitted to the will of the dominant religion Islam why because we believe we have liberated our ancestor’s lands from the grip of the Arabs…..

• 72. Reminder | November 2nd, 2009 at 8:45 am

  Alyssa you are very smart and objective. I want to follow you! Because I foolishly thought secularism can be applied in less than 24hrs! I wasn’t thinking that it is a long process that entails seperating religion from the state, deemphasizing the importance of religious officials in politics or religion as a whole in poltics. You see I wasn’t thinking that it is a long process that takes years (over 20) but is worth it at the end, and since it takes time we should start asap.

  Just a few differences between LF and Hezb:

  LF killed based on religous affiliation (on checkpoints) Hezb never did (pls dont fabricate incidents where they did)

  LF committed genocides Hezb didn’t (dont even dare mention 7 May cause if you do you are just showing how ignorant you are on what a genocide and what war is!!)

  LF killed more christians (including the years it was serving under the Kataeb) far more than Hezb (may I remind you that Hezb was established in 85, long after the skirmishes between christians & muslims, besides the PSP & palestinians were busy doing that).

  LF leaders promote hatred and racism, before and now. Need I remind you that Moussa el Sader once said: “al ta3ayoush al masi7i el muslim tharwa la yajib an nakoudaha”. He said that during the civil war!

  Also FYI when Israeli troops left the south, and Hezb took over, not a single christian militant (jaysh lahed ect…) was harmed, but all were caught and given to the LEBANESE army to deal with them. They didn’t execute them like OTHER militias did with their POWs.

• 73. Jo | November 3rd, 2009 at 3:23 am

  .قدامى القوات: ننصح الجوزو أن يعود الى عمله في مجلة الكواكب الفن

• 74. danny | November 3rd, 2009 at 4:10 am

  Jo,

  Why answer to a pompous bloated pig? Do you bark back at a dog?

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