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• 1. Baron | October 25th, 2007 at 10:13 pm

  The pictures are on the Aounists forum already….

• 2. Eiffel | October 25th, 2007 at 10:50 pm

  I really hated the picture of the guy with the gun pointed at the girl’s head. This is a silly and dangerous joke.

  These pictures reveal a Zghorta folklore. Actually, they love going in the Jerd to shoot things. I’m not being sarcastic but that’s what a Zgherteweh would do on his first date: go to the jerd and shoot some bottles..

• 3. Son of Ehden | October 25th, 2007 at 10:57 pm

  N10452, you really surprise me. Some of your posts are very intelligent and others are plain stupid, such as this one. The area shown isn’t a training camp. It is called Nwaheer. It is on a mountain above Ehden. Many people camp there and take with them rifles and guns and shoot for fun at bottles. Me and my friends do that often when I visit Lebanon in the summer and we are in no way associated with M14 or M8 or even M16. Please research the issues before you post them. It is better for your reputation and credibility. One time we were camping there and Sleiman Frangieh visited us and had lunch. I am not a fan of him at all but this is just to show you that the area is common for camping and shooting rifles. Please keep in mind, Zghertewiyi are born trained (same as Besheraniyi), we dont need any training camps, it is in our blood. No one was able to kick us out of our towns, unlike christians in other areas. Read our history, read about Youssef Bek, who sent his men to Zahle and Kesrouwan. If you don’t know history, you will not understand the present.

• 4. Son of Ehden | October 25th, 2007 at 10:58 pm

  Eiffel-

  I’d rather do that on my first date than get kicked out of my town like a pussy. At least we are cheap and cowards. We never got kicked out of our towns… Keep that in mind.

• 5. Son of Ehden | October 25th, 2007 at 10:59 pm

  I meant, not cheap and cowards like the Kesreweniyi…

• 6. N10452 | October 25th, 2007 at 11:14 pm

  Son of Ehden,
  If you are not associated and you do that, that makes things even more dangerous lool .. so you just walk with ur AKs and M16 and shoot at bottles ????

  You know you can try help the economy and play some paintball

• 7. Son of Ehden | October 25th, 2007 at 11:34 pm

  Even in the US, people go camping in designated area and practise rifle shootings. Check it out. I played paintball but it ain’t the same. The area where people camp has many wildlife, such as wolves. Being armed is sometimes necessary. We dont walk around with Ak’s and M16, we go camping and practice rifle shooting. I rather do that than get kicked out of my hometown one day.

• 8. Son of Ehden | October 25th, 2007 at 11:38 pm

  N10452-

  If i wasn’t aware of your previous posts, I would say this article is something Al-Akhbar newspaper would publish. Take something and switch it totally out of its content and twist it around to something far worse. Again, Zghertewiyi don’t need training, keep that in mind. Did you even hear of Zghertewiyi or Besheraniyi getting training ? I strongly believe that we (zghertewiyi and besheraniyi) are the backbone of Maronites in Lebanon. We protected the Maronites for centuries (look for dates way before the civil war). See the LF martyr list, you will see that many of them are from the North and not from Kesrouwan or Beirut.

• 9. Son of Ehden | October 25th, 2007 at 11:41 pm

  One last reminder, you will never see Shites and Sunni running through the streets of Zgharta / Besharri and destroying cars and buildings like you saw in Ashrafieh on two occassions. Something more to keep in mind, We might not be classy (even though the definition of classy varies) but we know how to protect our turf, territory and Cross.

• 10. Ghillie Suits » Moa&hellip | October 25th, 2007 at 11:44 pm

  [...] Check it out! While looking through the blogosphere we stumbled on an interesting post today.Here’s a quick excerpt with the gun pointed at the girl s head. This is a silly and dangerous joke. These pictures reveal… at bottles ???? You know you can try help the economy and play some paintball Posting [...]

• 11. Danny | October 26th, 2007 at 12:03 am

  N,

  I am sorry but I do not see the “training” camp atomosphere. Bunch of guys in caps laughing, one aiming his gun to a girl’s head(an idiot) another posing infront of his car and one sleeping dude with paper plates…

  If you are trying to be transparent, sorry but you are being an Orange’s fool!

  No comparison between the training camp pictures of the “fag bunch with their prada outfits” and this…

• 12. Tareq | October 26th, 2007 at 3:04 am

  Son Of Ehden Please take us in your dream…khidna b 7elmak…Why you feel so offended that you have to attack the Keserwen people and the Achrafieh people??…You know that in every village they think they are the best and the strongest and and…Za7leh it is marba ousoud, Ya7shoush it is marba noumour, etc. etc…it is only folklore man it doesn;t mean anything, if you have a B-52 dropping ammo on your head in Ehden and Zgharta you will run like anyone else so please no need for all the pussy talk…Achrafieh resistance since 1975 doesn’t need to explain anything to anyone, today we depend on the army and we respect when the Christian leaders say don’t use violence…that what Samir Geagea and Amine Jmayel asked on the day some Sunni and Shia walked in Achrafieh.

• 13. Tareq | October 26th, 2007 at 3:09 am

  I think all these people with military guns in public should be arrested…the Army should take these pictures and arrest these stupid people especially the guy with the gun on the head of the little girl IT IS DISGUSTING!!!

  But I don’t see the link between the picture with Moawad and the other pictures? How do we know the people with military guns are from Moawad Camp??

• 14. Son of Ehden | October 26th, 2007 at 4:01 am

  If Sunni and Shiites ran through the streets of Ehden and Zgharta, no matter what the leaders will say, the people will defend the towns and the Cross, keep that in mind. The difference between us and the other towns is history. Youssef Bek Karam sent his men to defend the Khazen family from Tanious Shaheen during the 1860’s and he sent his men to Zahle as well. As for the Ashrafieh resistance, do yourself a favor and read the list of the martyrs, you will see that most of them weren’t even from Ashrafieh. Over 50% were from the North. The reason I attack Kesrouwan and Beirut, is because the LF continues to face divisions among regions. Look how the Kesrouwaniyi and Metn keep voting for Aoun, a guy with no conscience or loyalty. Many LF from the north gave their life to the cause, yet they aren’t admired as much as those who are from Beirut and Kesrouwan. Remember where the maronites originated from, the Kadeesha Valley, not mono or downtown or even Jounieh. If i live in Beirut and the Sunnis attacked like they did, i would defend my family and Cross regardless what Geagea or Gemayel might say… You have the right to defend yourself. Please don’t try to explain and justify cowardness. I will vote for someone from Bsharri a million time before I consider voting for someone from Haret Hereyk or Beirut for that matter.
  As for B-52 dropping ammo (they don’t drop ammo by the way), no need to run as you’re dead already. Many LF from Beirut and Kesrouwan think they’re far better than these from the North and Besharri in particular. Yet, we see the different level of courage, guts and glory…

• 15. mikel | October 26th, 2007 at 5:04 am

  What happens is Zgharta stays in Zgharta

• 16. mikel | October 26th, 2007 at 5:05 am

  I mean they’re just carrying a couple assault rifles; in Zghorta terms, that doesn’t add up to a sling-shot.

• 17. Tareq | October 26th, 2007 at 5:30 am

  This is your opinion but I refuse your logic it doesn’t make sense…is the DNA of Zgharta and Bsharri better than other villages?…Do you eat something better than us in your town?…Do you learn courage and we learn to be cowards?…I am sorry my friend but your talk is discrimination and it is ugly my friend…If some LF in Beirut think they are better than Bsharri like you say they are wrong but you are also wrong if you think you are better…There is cowards and heros everywhere my friend…

  In history Yousef Karam is not the only one who is a hero, Fakhr el Din was also a hero…also both of them had to run from the Turkish and died in Italy so we call them cowards because they did not fight to death like Fate7 Islam??

  I am not explaining cowardness 3ayb for you an LF to call Achrafieh and Keserwan cowards…And the 50% of martyrs from the North if your number is true great Allah yer7amun but the other 50% are cowards??…What about Kataeb from Beirut that fought in Batroun etc. Your logic is wrong we should not talk like this, you can be proud of your town for the beauty and the nice food and the history but you cannot call others cowards…Achrafieh we did all the fighting since 1975 we have thousands martyrs it is a sin to say anything like this.

• 18. M.N. | October 26th, 2007 at 8:51 am

  ya son of ehden rou2 3a wad3ak chwei!!!!
  chou ma ba2a fi rjeil gheir bi zgharta w bsharreh???
  you said that the christians in Keserwan and Metn voted for Aoun…fine, but can you tell us for who the christians in the north and zgharta people voted in the elections??? what’s the difference between Aoun and Franjiyeh?? in metn we saw how people’s opinion changed about Aoun but is this happening in Ehden???
  you are proud that you have a machine gun or whatever and you go to shoot during ur vacation, but let me tell u something not everyone who has a gun is a “rijjeil” more than an unarmed man….
  really it’s a pity to segregate the christian regions in this way…”walla 3ayb”…chwayyet i7tiram la ghayrak ma byeshkeh min chi w khassatan la manate2 7tadanet l massi7iyeh wa2t l tehjir metl keserwan, jbeil wel metn…

  Cheers.

• 19. LF Forever | October 26th, 2007 at 8:55 am

  Son of ehden? I think you are son of a bi***! Kesrwenieh escape from home?! Yussef bek save us? You are really bullshit historian…Kessrouan, vote for Aoun only because he was with Cedars revolution and today if you turn to election, forget AOUN, he will end like in the metn “but no Arman”. No area is pure and clean as Kesrouan! unless Franjieh ” El homseh” “El Az3ar” cousin of Youssef bek.

• 20. M.N. | October 26th, 2007 at 8:56 am

  as for the post….
  eza kel wa7ad min hal achkhass birou7 bishouf cheghlo w ya3mel chi moufid la 3aylto w la balado ma bi koun afdal bi ktir?????????

• 21. johnny | October 26th, 2007 at 10:32 am

  This is my favorite!

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVt_ELnVJwA

  Yes Son of Ehden. We do understand. You need to go shooting on your first date to be a tough man able to protect your village… It’s called the culture of love. It all makes sense now

• 22. Maroun | October 26th, 2007 at 10:41 am

  I thought this blog was interesting, what’s with the last 2 posts?
  Happy Bday and mouawwad’s police v- voleur camp? What’s next? a discussion about Ibrahim Kanaan’s moustache: myth or reality?
  Get serious.

• 23. KoudamaElKouwat | October 26th, 2007 at 1:08 pm

  Nice one N10452

  I saw these pictures from more than a week.

  frankly I didn’t though that it will be posted on this site.

  by the way, for all guys that posted their comments,

  really it is something bad for us as lebanese people in general and Christians exactly, to be back fr those type of activities (even if they are just for fun)

  a small boy like Mouawad, Fils à Mamma, and many others, ornangists, Kataeb, Kuwet, etc… to think again in the mentality of WAR..

  Boys… wake up, we are older than you, we massed up our life for politicians, we fighted for them, we distroyed our country…and FOR WHAT!!

  Wlak AYYYA ADDIYEH!!!!!

  kello kezeib bi kezzeib… el addiyeh el wa7ideh kenit massla7it el zou3ama weJIYEIBBOUN

  Kelloun without any exeptions: Junbalt, Nabih Berre, GEAGEA, AOUN,..

  really what is so disgusting (MORE) is that you find: 2a3da2 all amess, homm 7olafa2 all yawm wal 3akess bel 3akess

  Please wake up for the sake of lebanon and for the sake of our children future…ne7na ra7it 3alayna …et3allamo menna w men aghlatna , w ma t3idoua!!!!

  kharabna el balad kermel 3younoun , w el addiyeh el zabra yalli kenno 3emlinla ghassil dmegh 3alaya…el achrafieh el bidayi (wlak bi deyit chou, bi deyit kharaben el byout,) w zgherta eb yekhla2o bel dna taba3oun el machekil, wlak dna min wel nass naymin,

  3am te7ko metel el wleid el zghar, ajwe2 ana Bayye 2a2wa men bayyak, 3endo jefeitt bi bouzein rousse…metel ma kenit 3a 2ieyeime!!!

  wake u, ma etkhallo neiss hamma jaybetta wel fekra el ekta3iyeh, metel hall BEBE MOUAWAD wghayro ey2assro 3alaykoun

  w allah eykoun ma3koun!!!! w ma3 lebnein

• 24. Son of Ehden | October 26th, 2007 at 1:10 pm

  It’s just that we never got kicked out of our towns and never will. I highlighted a sensitive point that many of you refuse to even aknowledge its exisitence: Why do the LF of Beirut and Kesrouwan look down at the LF of the North ? Someone answer me that question.
  Do you ever think that Sunni and Shites will run through the streets of Zgharta and Besharri like they did in Ashrafieh ? Someone answer that question too. The reason I segregate the christians into different area is because I lived with the Kesrouwaniyi and I know them, they continously think they are better than others when in reality they offer nothing.

• 25. KoudamaElKouwat | October 26th, 2007 at 1:12 pm

  3ala fekra ba3ed fi soura la 2iyeid sakr ma3oun

  bi charafak 7otta

  hall photogenic yalli mich ma3rouf emmo min N i ….

• 26. Bachir 7ay Fina | October 26th, 2007 at 1:41 pm

  Kif lebnen baddo ysir balad w 3endak 7amir 3a nasa2 haw.
  30 sene 7areb 2ahliye w ba3ed osem kbir men el lebneniye ma fehim chou ye3ne sle7 barat el char3iye.
  Allah yer7amak ya lebnen

• 27. Son of Ehden | October 26th, 2007 at 2:56 pm

  The previous post is funny. Everyone in Lebanon has rifles and guns. Over 50% of the american people have some types of rifles and guns as well. It has nothing to do with illegal arms. The illegal arms are with the hands of hizbollah. Keep that in mind. The Moawad dont go and shoot in the sky each time Nayla or Michel speaks on Television. The ouwet don’t do it either. So please focus on the main subject at hand and lets not all try to apply to work for Al Akhbar newspaper.

• 28. Danny | October 26th, 2007 at 3:01 pm

  These posts and comments are becoming very juvenile, so are the responses… Please keep it in high intellect and let go of stupid posts in an effort of being ‘transparent or just”. The picture are indicative of nothing!
  As for Ehden , Bshari, Ksrawan etc…GROW UP (I am sure you guys are not more than 18 years old) and keep the stupid bravado to the Syrians…Haven’t you guys learned anything from hisory??
  ….

• 29. Son of Ehden | October 26th, 2007 at 3:04 pm

  Walla ya Danny I like your posts. FYI, I am much older than 18. I am speaking of personal experience, I raised one question that many of you will still not answer: Why is there so much division between the LF of the North and that of Beirut and Kesrouwan. No one has yet to answer the question…

• 30. Danny | October 26th, 2007 at 3:51 pm

  S of E

  You still are a juvenile person. To answer your Q’n: There are No differences between North or South. It is obvious that you are nothing but a MaradaAoun (Teale/Orange) geek who’s trying to create a schism among LF-ers. You are as effective as your uneducated dimented leaders.

  Ciao

• 31. Son of Ehden | October 26th, 2007 at 3:58 pm

  sure danny, sure… i am convinced… thank you

• 32. Maroun | October 26th, 2007 at 4:04 pm

  Danny, god forbid.

• 33. Son of Ehden | October 26th, 2007 at 4:06 pm

  Danny- You just blew my cover. You should try and submit an application to the C.L.I.A: Central Lack of Intelligence Agency. You would make a great agent for counter intelligence.
  As for me being a juvenille, I will say thank you. I wish i could be again, and hope you will achieve in your lifetime half of what I achieved already. Thank you again.

• 34. Tareq | October 26th, 2007 at 4:21 pm

  Son Of Ehden now I understand your point…daya3tne bi gheyr ossa but OK I agree with you the people of Beirut and Kesrouwan and Metn say in the past: Hol jama3it Geagea Bsharri moush shayfin al zifet…Hol 2ahel Chmel rasun m7ajjar etc. I heard these things in the past but I say so what?

  Everywhere in the world the city people critique the people of the mountain and vice versa…look at USA they say HICKS about the South people because they are simple people and they like shooting etc. And the South people they call the New York people Yankee Dandee

  You asked why Kesrouwan people look down on the North they have nothing better well I know what you are saying but they look down on everyone not only North people It’s OK I think because they don’t hurt anyone it’s only talk.

  The question about Sunni and Shia walking in Achrafieh do you know where they arrive? Only to the edge where it is commercial area that is closed on Sunday and they attack the building at entrance of Achrafieh, if they did walk into Achrafieh where people live what do you think it would happen? We are going to run away screaming help?? Rafi2 in Achrafieh when they hang the picture of Hafiz Assad 10 years ago we burn it 3 times…there was Syrian Moukhabart everywhere in Sassine and we burn the picture under their nose we are not afraid of some stupid Fate7 Islam people…but Achrafieh people don’t have to do a massacre to prove we are brave Walaou we still need to prove something after the war?

  I know what you are saying that North people are strong everyone knows it in Lebanon but I am saying that it doesn’t mean you are superman and we are little girls that is all.

• 35. Son of Ehden | October 26th, 2007 at 4:26 pm

  Nice reply Tareq, you covered all the points I tried to cover. My point is why isn’t there enough credit given to the people from the North ? Only jokes and more jokes. How can you build a nation when the Christians are so divided beyond repair ? If you say, lets fix the LF and stop this division, people will call you Aouneh or Marada. That was my point and thank you for your moderate and smart reply.

• 36. paul | October 26th, 2007 at 5:02 pm

  do we have HA in the north?

• 37. Tareq | October 26th, 2007 at 5:30 pm

  SoE I believe you are right and I think the problem is also bigger than North and South…The Christians have a good thing that we are plural and we like competition…never we had a Hassan Nasrallah that all of us love even Bashir many Christians did not support him…so it is good that we are democratic but we have very bad things like we don’t know solidarity with each other and we are only open for what we like but we are closed minded for everything different than us.

  Unfortunately in Lebanon we are not team players every person is a leader (kelna zou3ama)…or my leader is the best and everything else is a traitor (like the Aoun syndrome)…and the worst I think is how Lebanese especially Christians we say we are educated and peaceful etc. but we do the opposite…Look how we treat the Sarilanka maids in the other post on the blog…and we are very selfish etc. This is why Bashir always critisized the Christian way of thinking…and I think the Moslem Lebs are not better how they think and what they do.

  I think it will take a long time but we will advance after many generation…I hope so because if we stay like this we will go extinct like the Dinosaur and the other nations they will say we were the stupidest people on earth…That’s what I think.

• 38. Irange | October 26th, 2007 at 6:23 pm

  Dear N,

  You are using the word Irange many times these days, do i have to register it at the Ministry of Economy as trade mark?

  Either the pics are true or fake done by 14 or by 8, the result is the same… talking more and more about an armed culture…

  People remember at one stage our slogan was we LOVE LIFE… people you cant love life & seek for death!

• 39. Roland | October 26th, 2007 at 8:33 pm

  eza bet la7zo kel yele 3am ta3mlo hon hoowe tt5ena2o bba3d… choo hal i3aka keserwen w bsharre w zgharta w baye a2wa men bayak … mtel wled 3am biyt5ena2o ben ba3d..
  kabro 3a2lkon chway w et7do ya “massi7iyi el char2″ w se3ta btchoofo el denie kela mab too2af bwejna !

• 40. Son of Ehden | October 26th, 2007 at 9:51 pm

  Roland, I agree with you.. My point was to stop the insults towards people from the North in general, like comment # 2.
  Thank you All.

• 41. LF Forever | October 27th, 2007 at 1:44 am

  johny,

  Ma fi ta3tir aktar in hayk! Sleiman, is consider christian representative. Can you imagine.

• 42. Tarek | October 29th, 2007 at 12:00 am

  Man we have this problems in Lebanon, unsupervised personal weapons! We should supervise them just like in the united state, but before that you can not ask someone to deliver a machine gun or an R.P.G. when have HZ super armed. There should be disarming and it should start with HZ. Though I cannot see that coming any soon.

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