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• 1. Joe | July 29th, 2007 at 10:42 pm

  لا يدري هذا الجنرال الصغير بان زناره ليس على خصره بل حول رقبته

• 2. wassim | July 29th, 2007 at 11:07 pm

  shabeb 3eb 3laykon tzawro 7a2eye2 wlak sayrin betkazbo l kezbe w betsad2ouwa! 3a kel 7al ana kenet bel convoit w shefet bi 3youne shou sar bel maten! kena meshyin bel coinvoit wel 3alam 3al blekin 3am biresho 3layna rez w yza2foulna w bas wsolna edem l dunkin bi bremana byotla3o 15 shab ouwatje w kate2eb men mat3am bi wej l dunkin w bibalsho msabet w teshbi2 7jar w teshbi2 karase!! shou mafroud na3mol?? mnesketlkon?? la2 akid la2! ento t3adayto 3laya fa t7amalo mas2ouliyet af3alkon! w 3a kel 7al bi khsous hezeb ala wel awmiye ya3ne hehehe 3anjad betda7ko! b7eb akedlkon eno l shabeb yale da3wasouwon lal ouwet hene shabeb 3awniye masi7iye w ma ma3na wala wa7ad men hezeb ala! w hol jame3et endibat l tayyar w eh mazbout hol fer2et dife3 3an l tayyar t2asaset men ba3d l taleta l aswad bas ma ma3na sle7 ttamano! bas men defe3 3an banetna bi hal shabeb l abadayet! w nasi7a ma t3idouwa li ano de2to ta3meta lyom…

• 3. paul | July 29th, 2007 at 11:49 pm

  wassim

  wbarke inta 3am tkazzib?

• 4. paul | July 29th, 2007 at 11:51 pm

  2oul wi7yet general lasad2ak! mni7?

• 5. Silvana | July 29th, 2007 at 11:55 pm

  3am “biresho 3layna rez” ; Orange rice????… Sorry haha, leish kinto bil Olympics wala rbi7tou elAsian cup… Sakhafi akter min hayk ma fi…

• 6. FILOV | July 30th, 2007 at 12:05 am

  This is from tayyar.org

  تعرض موكب سيار للتيار الوطني الحر تأييدًا لمواقف العماد ميشال عون ومرشح التيار الدكتور كميل خوري، في برمانا، لاعتداء برشق حجارة استهدفه

  وقد رمى عناصر من الكتائب والقوات اللبنانية طلاب التيار الوطني الحر بمواد مسيلة للدموع وذلك أثناء عبور موكبهم السيار في بصاليم. ورمى عناصر من الكتائب والقوات طلاب التيار بزجاج أثناء عبور الموكب في انطالياس.

• 7. paul | July 30th, 2007 at 12:11 am

  يعمد التيار العوني الى إرسال مواكب سيارة الى عدد من المناطق المتنية بهدف استفزاز المواطنين. فمساء وقع إشكال في برمانا بعد استفزازات قام بها موكب يضم عدد من السيارات العونية وتم تطويقه، ثم عمد الموكب نفسه الى افتعال إشكال في بعبدات لا تزال القوى الأمنية تعمل على تطويقه. وأكد أهالي المنطقة أن الموكب يضم مراهقين من خارج المتن يعملون على إطلاق هتافات استفزازية والقيام بحركات نابية.
  and this is from http://www.forces-libanaises.com

• 8. paul | July 30th, 2007 at 12:40 am

  bas men defe3 3an banetna bi hal shabeb l abadayet!!!!!
  lak rou7…anta rajoulon warrijalou kalilou
  ba3den manna heine binit tnem 7ad 10 chabeb bfared kheime…chabeb ana n3isit wra7 rou7 nem…kaffo 3anne
  guten Nacht!

• 9. Ali 1559 | July 30th, 2007 at 1:39 am

  Wassim

  Thank you for making my day im so happy to hear about the REZ and happy people bass chu badna bil machekil ya zalame balke hadole (THUGS) 3m yistatirjouna la machkal (like usual) , trikouwon ya wassim , call the cops next time … anyway ya3tikon al 3fiye khaye and mabruk the victory already …

  I hope you live long general and A.G : ila khabar kana!

• 10. Tony | July 30th, 2007 at 2:06 am

  awal shi ya habibeh ana kent honikeh min awala balashet ma3 tlet shabeb ouwetjiyeh wou hagamto 3layon wou eli 3am te7keh el mat3am bi wejo ken msakar keno 3al balcon min 3aylet batrouni 3edon fern esmo batroune hodoleh akbar aouniyeh ma shefton lebsin orange wou eli hagamo 3laykon keno bas 6 ma3l 3 eli keno bel siyarat saro 9 fa into hagamto 3alayon wou wahad ken 3am bi jareb yeshab el m16 min el siyarat bas fi shab alo bala sle rege3 7ata wou faker fiya kif bedon yecheb2o hagar 3laykon min el mat3am shou fi hagar bel mat3am aw ken fi hagar 3al tarik el 3am kabo 3alaykon karaseh wou tawlet min el dunkin haydeh hiyeh bas eza rbe7to dod 9 shabeb bas shou sar fikon bi b3ebdet bas eleh ya paul

• 11. Ibrahim | July 30th, 2007 at 3:23 am

  I am not from LF, FPM, FM, HA or with any other group
  Just one question for those who support Aoun.
  Shabeb, ya3ni one atom of morality is needed to refute what Aoun has said.
  How can you support such a creature?
  Don’t you feel disgusted?
  How can you still vote for him?
  No values at all?
  Nothing?
  M2a7teen lahal daraje.
  I guess it’s brain wash. You cannot think or even feel. Your ability to prceive is not functioning anymore.
  Sub7an Allah.
  Lebanese don’t deserve this country.

• 12. Falango | July 30th, 2007 at 4:09 am

  Awal shi khalina nshaouf l video boukra .
  Teni shi 3am tinsa7na ya 7abib albe inta ya wassim inno ma n3ida. badde 2illak shagle ya sahbe inno ni7na game3a ma mnit3adda 3ala 7ada, bas ma mniskout iza 7ada 2ega sawbna, any way ma sahebna l general akhad doctorat bil kezeb wbi tizwir l souwar…. fa ye3ne shou baddak yena nitwa2a3 innou ti7kou shi kelme mazbouta.
  Iza l general heik, yalli le72inou kif????
  halla2 l 2ossa wma fiya inno l general bas 3emel plastic surgerie fakkar innou 3ere3 shab w sar ktirrrrr Champion -BAS HOUWE KIRMELO 3AM Y5ARRIF-.
  Shagle mouhemme innou intou ya sahbe ma3 2e7tirame la kil aouniye, Sha3b mousakaf w mouta3allem, kil yom lsobeh bit2oumou 3ala internet bishoufou shou fi gdid 3alla tayyar.org, btidrsouwoun ktir mni7 wbitsirou tkhabrouwou bil nhar, la 7atta yotla3 shi gdid……….
  Ma khalasna ba2a shbe3na minnkoun w min l general, bas leik ba3dna 3am n3ed lal 3ashra, alla yostorkoun min shi marra tkoun 2adye…….
  Wlo 7abibe fi zalame 2eja 3ala hal dene w ma hada 2eja wla byege metlo ismou Bachir Al Gemayel w 2el arba3 kalimet : ” 2e3ref 3adouwak, 3adouwal l soury ”
  ya khaye ma badda shi shilne min l2ouwet w min l Kataeb w min kil shi. Ana Masi7e Marouni, iza bittala3 3alla yalli sar min tari7 2iste2lel libnen lal yom yi3ne min l 1943 lal 2007, mourouran bil 1958,1967,1975,1982,1990…..
  2eza bitshouf bas shou m2adme Souriya la Lebnen, w baddak tkoun mante2e , anna akid innou 7a tkoun dod souriya.
  Fa sou2al la kill yalli bi7ebbou Aoun, khalli ya3touna shi sabab mou2ne3 innou aoun 3am bidefe3 3an souria lyoum???????????????????????
  Ana shab min l Bekaa, im 22 years old w min senet l 2001 la fallou l souriyin mal2out 6 marret w mahbous se3a ma3oun se3a ma3 l 7aras l gamhoure taba3 l kalb lahoud 2al shou 2al 7atit salib 2ouwet bi ra2bte, w shou 2al 3am bisma3 mousi2a 3ala sawet 3ale, w kamena 2el leich shelet souret lahoud 3an l garage taba3e( yi3ne ba3ed 3ala shway fawtet l 7emem kennou baddou yil2atoune 3laya), fa kif baddkoun minna l yom iza 7kina ka lebneniye w bala a7zeb innou n7ib zalame harab min lsouriyine whalla2 rege3 3am bidefe3 3announ, ye3ne fi 2e7timalein
  1st : aw ken mitifiw2 ma3oun min lawwal i mean since the 1989.
  2nd : aw hayda l zalame ma fi 3a2el li2anno 3am bina2ed 7allo ………………………….

  Waiting 4 ur reply Guys.

• 13. Ali 1559 | July 30th, 2007 at 6:18 am

  Talking about thugs? How brave :

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hud3qnkUE8M

• 14. Ali 1559 | July 30th, 2007 at 6:48 am

  Ibrahim (lfer)

  Who’s better than aoun ?

  What did your parents teach you about telling the truth? Remember not only what they said to you , but also how they acted .

  Gma is going to say the truth (he’s been)coz it seems like there are ppl out there NISSYO their bad deeds during the syrian occupation ect… Gma speech yesterday was a reminder for those who NISSYO min houwe Amin.G . You have been attacking us for the last 3 yrs (at least) and now it’s time for us to step up and put our WORDS in .

  Truth hurts ya Ibrahim ! Get use to hear it habibi ! Ma fi ya 2ime r7amine anymore !

• 15. fad14 | July 30th, 2007 at 7:19 am

  Ya Habibi Ya Ali. I ask you always to tell us the truth and you dont ever reply.

  Aoun is not a liar ok !! ??
  1. He wanted to disarm hizbulla 3 years ago and get syria out of lebanon as they are our enemey
  Today he loves both. Liar or NOT ?
  2. He said he is the last one to leave baaba and was the first to run away. Liar or NOT ?
  3. He said he wants to fix the corruption. His allies are Amal, Hizbulla, Marada, SSNP, Baath. Liar or Not ?
  4. He wants national unity Gov while the gov he headed was 3 maronites. Liar or NOT?
  5. He started liberation war and never attacked to liberate anything. Liar or not ??
  6. He doesnt believe in family benefits in politics and it should be based on qualification. Half of FPM is from the Aoun family or Bassil. Liar or NOT ?
  7. Jacques Shirak is a liar, but he paid him a salary, gave him a house, paid for his expenses and travels and he ended up cursing him. Liar or NOT ?
  8. He wants a powerfull christian president, elected by Hizbulla, Amal, SSNP, Baath, Fathi Yakan, and all pro syrians. Liar or NOT ?
  9. He is fighting Petro Dollar, while in the last elections, he paid for airline tickets to people to come and elect him, He got paid to open OTV as they couldnt come up with the money from the shares he was selling. LIAR OR NOT ?
  10. He believes in the bright future of our country, but all he did was close the downtown area with his allies and stop businesses and investments from coming. Liar or NOT ?
  11. He doesnt believe in bribes for elections but he distributes aid to villagers last July with his name on them. Liar or NOT ?
  12. He doesnt want Saniora ever to come as PM while the whole country knows he cant decide shit on who the next PM is, March 14 does that, and they can put Saniora as PM every single term for the next 50 years. So again.. Liar or NOT ?
  13. He believes in democracy, but cant wait for the next elections in less than 2 years and want to dissolve the parliament now. Liar or NOT ?

  Now answer this without attacking anyone else.
  Its a long list, stop being blind,

  We are not all in love with March 14, but don’t get us DIRT as an alternative and expect us to welcome him with open hands and hearts.

• 16. Shlomo | July 30th, 2007 at 7:25 am

  Maybe you FORGOT how President Gemayel calmed down the people the night when Pierre got assassinated.

  w yimkin al 3alam ma bta3rif meen howwi Michel Naim Aoun. shou tarikho min al 60s, 70s, lal yom.

  fashal w jeben w 7roubi w atl w kharab…

• 17. Johnny.B | July 30th, 2007 at 8:06 am

  Ali 1559,

  Who’s better than aoun ?

  anyone is better than aoun, even we2am wahab a7san !

• 18. Sokhoushmoush | July 30th, 2007 at 8:38 am

  I live in Antelias ,and I saw what happened there.IT’s been 2 days that the LF and Kataeb thugs are putting KAtaeb flag all over the place and we’re letting them to do so ,cuz Tashnak doesn’t want to have a problem with Kataeb.
  When the Aounists came by cars(shi 20-25 siyara ma3 mousi2a) ,sume Lf thugs insulted them ,someone among them said:”Watto l sowt…”
  And the clash began…but it just took 5 minutes…Hard luck ouwet….No bodygurads or stuff like that ,they were just young boys (20-25), and what Tayyar.org said is not that accurate.

• 19. Sokhoushmoush | July 30th, 2007 at 8:45 am

  So who assaulted whom in Broumana and Ba3abdet?Who won?More info plz…In Antelias it was a draw,lol.

• 20. paul | July 30th, 2007 at 9:09 am

  tony

  pls read my comments again.

• 21. paul | July 30th, 2007 at 9:27 am

  into so a sensitive situation ,provocation is a dangerous thing ,
  who won? is a good question,but only if it is irony, wheide l3ein bil3ein wissin bissin manna ilna wchalloua lageirna yinbisto fia.

• 22. Johnny.B | July 30th, 2007 at 9:46 am

  Soukhoushmoush,

  if lf got beaten up, or fpm got beaten up, keep in mind we both would’ve lost infront of the conspiracy that is being fabricated against the lebanese people … ( FARRIK TASOUD ) remember me, they are implementing the same thing they are doing in iraq…. split and rule … but who are they doing this, is something we the lebanese will always fight against each other to find out and we never will !

• 23. Rodge | July 30th, 2007 at 9:49 am

  To all of you,

  It doesn’t matter who started the scene, and it is someting that will show up in the video tony will send to N, whcih the FPM ers will not believe even if it is clear.

  No matter, what i want to say, is that since it is obvious that tension is so high in Metn, everyone is allowed to do festivals in some area, but why going in convoys, these convoys will make the tensions even higher. So it was deliberate from the Aounists to do this convoy.
  An advice, everyone should stay in his own area, or he even can do whatever he wants in any area, but without moving in convoys, and we all know what the convoys do usually, “Istifzezet” only.
  This reminds me of the convoys that Sporting fans used to organize to Achrafieh after a win in a game with Sagesse. Those convoys have always led to troubles. In return, Sagesse fans have never done it to Manara or elsewhere.

• 24. lady hawke 100% L.F | July 30th, 2007 at 9:55 am

  This is aslan the only way that orange followres know, they come to our regions and start teasing us,our recation is normal, baddoun aktar min heik kamen.This is the only way they know, byekhdo il awamer min il H… il Kbir taba3oun,haram they do not know what else to do.
  Wassim, akid rah ykebbou rice,ma wein badoun yrouho bil donations yalli ejouwoun min arabic countries, wa2et il war yali ballasha nesrallah.
  Ana will tell u something more,and talking only ABOUT MYSELF, my own opinion, iza belmah waha orange byemrou2 haddi w he teases me,god knows what will i do to him.COZ ALLAH MISH TAYE2OUN.

• 25. Johnny.B | July 30th, 2007 at 9:56 am

  I agree with rodge, its something istifzeizi from both sides, if we both love lebanon, (kill wa7ad bi tari2to) we should not do convoys, coz it has no reulst or meaning what so-ever, enno yalli baddo yintikhib ma ra7 ykoun hal chi min wara convoy ata3 iddeim bayto … ya chabeib l-3alam sarou 3al amar, ta3ou 3a dubai w choufou chou 3melou min l-sa7ra btibiz2ou 3a 7alna w 3al kill chi ismo siyyeisseh !

  you never know the meaning of lebanon unless u live outside it, we have a treasure in comparision to the whole world and we don’t know how to use it ! Wake up before its too late and avoid conflict !

• 26. Rodge | July 30th, 2007 at 10:05 am

  U’re right Johnny,

  And yet, who contributed the most in transforming Dubai are the Lebanese, so why building other countries and destroying ours??? badna nshouf el 7izib, yelli ba3do badd y2atil la 200 sini.

  Why Hizb Allah wants always to fight and stay in war and destroy?? i think it’s to justify his existence, because when the war ends, HA will not have any reason to stay, and it will vanish.

  The same thing goes to Michel Aoun, he wants always to fight, but instead of fighting Israel like HA is doing, ot Syria or someone else, he’s fighting the Lebanese, and especially the Christians in Lebanon. How strange it is.

• 27. Rodge | July 30th, 2007 at 10:50 am

  Anyone heard what Sleiman Frangieh said yesterday???

  He criticized Bkerki once again,
  he said “Bkerki bit7ib elli bidallila”.

  Of course Mr. Frangieh, it is logic to love the ones who love us, not the ones who disrespect us, such as you and your Aoun.

  Everytime the Patriarche said something they don’t like, they start to attack and disrespect him, and Frangieh is the first one to do so, in addition to Aoun and his followers.

• 28. 888 | July 30th, 2007 at 11:10 am

  All of you were in the convoy yesterday and saw everything? let’s wait for the movie and we will see everyhting and especially the orange fuckers getting kicked……….i will enjoy it

• 29. Johnny.B | July 30th, 2007 at 11:18 am

  Rodge,

  did u forget franjieh is a syrian chiwawa ???

  latest thing i’ve heard that the awmeh in there latest ” tosri7″ : ” aoun is our allie and we have the political line !

  pretty intersting … I’m starting to enjoy this please anti-lebanon people keep these things coming :D:D

• 30. Rodge | July 30th, 2007 at 11:24 am

  Johhnny,

  A simple question Bro, do you ever sleep ya man? i saw you writing comments in the mornings, afternoons, evenings, and after midnights. You remind me a little bit of me when i was still single. But you should get some sleep, don’t worry, many guys will take over from you meanwhile, but at the same time, we’ll miss ur great comments and replies, so keep it up, and God bless you.

• 31. joseph | July 30th, 2007 at 1:00 pm

  ana mou2ayyed lal tayyar, w badde oul chaghle lal LF w la sa7ebna n10452:
  awwal chi rou7 chouf l video 3al tayyar.org, hiyye asiré bas bet barhen chaghle 3al akid:lech chabeb l ouwet baddon yehejmo 3a msawwer ta y2achtou l camera aw yederbou, eza hennen bari2in w l tayyar t3adda 3layon w darabon??????
  ba3den chou masla7et l tayyar yehjom 3a chabeb l ouwet wel kataeb bel convoi??mech ken lezem yet3adda 3layon bas keno 3am bi 3al2o a3lem l kataeb w souwar amine w pierre, w bas l kataeb 3amlo mahrajenet????
  3alatoul l tayyar mouchegheb w bya3mel machekel, metel iyyem l intikhebet bel jem3a l lebneniyye, bas yerba7 l tayyar, ysir fi machekel w darb w teksir 2zez, w bas yerba7o 14 chbat ma ysir chi……..min awelkon 3am yehjom 3al tene????????????????
  w bas met l chahid cheikh pierre alla yer7amo, min 7ara2 souret l general bel achrafiyyeh w ken baddo ya3mel machekel law ma haddehon l cheikh amine w allon yrou2o????
  3ala ases l tayyar wel general atalou la pierre…eh mbala!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  YOU CAN”T LIE TO A WHOLE NATION!!!!!!!!!

• 32. Shadow | July 30th, 2007 at 1:13 pm

  Guys ,

  As LFers we should not go to the level of the orangists , beleive me they are losing it .

  We hope that this will never repeat .This phrase is from yesterday bible.

  فَعَلِمَ يسوعُ أَفكارَهم فقال لهم: «كُلُّ مَملَكةٍ تَنقَسِمُ على نَفْسِها تَخْرَب، وكُلُّ مَدينةٍ أَو بَيتٍ يَنقَسِمُ على نَفْسِه لا يَثبُت.

  Let it be a democratic election , as LFers and Kataebs and Ahrars and Herass arez and Ketleh wataniyeh and 14 march we should be ready by now for this election . On sunday we should all go and vote for sheikh Amine wafe2an la ebnou sheikh Pierre(RIP) moush nkeyeh bi hadan .

  Im sure Metn will be for the second time take the lead of a big change inside the christian community . Dont forget guys that Metn did it when they have voted for Gabriel Murr against Mirna Murr and he won .

  Finally , we are all waiting to see this video just to see the truth .

• 33. Johnny.B | July 30th, 2007 at 1:32 pm

  Rodge,

  hahah yesterday i was thinking of taking a 1 week break, heheh ma the problem is that im online all the time at work and its tempting khalas ma3ak 7a2 leizim khaffif chway waja3 rass ! take care bro

• 34. steven | July 30th, 2007 at 1:46 pm

  bass kabbo 3alaykoun rez??
  lech ma farashoulkoun kamen sejed a7mar?

• 35. Krazy | July 30th, 2007 at 2:10 pm

  “but why going in convoys, these convoys will make the tensions even higher. So it was deliberate from the Aounists to do this convoy.”

  First of all, everybody is free. I know any small comment will increase the tension but we’re living in a democratic country!

  I went to Faraya a week ago and LFers were coming down in convoys, with flags and shouting all around. I donno what was it for but I just watched them and passed by.

  In August 5, whoever wins will go to the streets and celebrate. That’s normal.
  For example, if Amine won and you are celebrating, do you want someone to come and fight with you?
  and if Dr. Khoury wins, you will hear alot of “tararatata”s and I guess you shouldn’t say anything and just watch them!

• 36. Krazy | July 30th, 2007 at 2:11 pm

  I forgot.
  Here’s a video from tayyar!

  http://us.tayyar.org/broumana.wmv

• 37. Rodge | July 30th, 2007 at 2:13 pm

  He He, Tannous disclosed Aoun lies:

  The best reply to what Aoun said 2 days ago, came today from the former Army Commander General Ibrahim Tannous, who denied everything Aoun said and clarified things. It is interesting to look at the statement of the straight and great commander the General Tannous was and still.

• 38. Tony | July 30th, 2007 at 2:20 pm

  thats video is in b3ebdet not in broumana they took videos in broumana but they didnt put them because they know there in the wrong

• 39. Krazy | July 30th, 2007 at 2:21 pm

  then this means both of the parties are to be blamed and not only FPM or not only LF (or Kataeb).

• 40. Tony | July 30th, 2007 at 2:27 pm

  in b3ebdet they continued what the aouniests started in broumana

• 41. Rodge | July 30th, 2007 at 2:33 pm

  Krazy,

  Tha video doesn’t show who started, it showed one LF guy attacking another FPM, and i think this is something both parties didn’t deny, a fight happened between people and a single word can motivate someone and let him start an action.
  Also, as Tony said, Babdat was the reaction for what happened in Broummana, but disregard that, all the parties should not do convoys, and i insist on my opinion. It’s not a matter of Democracy, it’s a matter of security. Also i don’t think Amine Gemayel or Kataeb would organize convoys if he win, because they can’t be happy in winning a Martyr’s seat.

• 42. Tony | July 30th, 2007 at 2:38 pm

  these convoys 3emlouwa to start a fight in my opinion if they didnt want to start fights why did they hire trained people to fight??? and to have weapons on them??? and then they went to ein l remeneh and ashrafieh??? what does that have to do with maten

• 43. Joe | July 30th, 2007 at 2:47 pm

  لسان الجنرال وأعصابه نقطة ضعفه… فالفجيعة أكبر لأنه نموذج فريد من نوعه في قلة التهذيب السياسي… و”استحت امرأة فاجرة ان تردح مثلما يردح في إطلالاته الانتخابية”.

  كمواطنين كنا نردّد جملة واحدة “يا عيب الشوم”… أهذا مستوى لمن يطرح نفسه علينا مشروع رئيس جمهورية؟!

  “تفو.. على الكرسي التي تجعل الانسان ينتهك كل الحرمات، حتى حرمة الموت والشهادة”!!

• 44. Joe | July 30th, 2007 at 2:53 pm

  لم يكتفِ الجنرال البرتقالي بزقزقته الأولى بل خرج ثانية ليقول كلاماً غريباً عجيباً: “واحد ما بيجيب ولاد شو منعمل” و”طرقنا” حديث عن السلالات التي تبدأ في لحظة تاريخية وتنتهي في لحظة!! فإذا كانت سلالة عمرها 500 سنة مثل آل الجميّل تنتهي في لحظة من وجهة نظر عون مع أن فيها أبناء بيار الشهيد، وسامي شقيقه، وهناك أبناء بشير نديم ويمنى.. هذه السلالة السياسية بكل ما قدمته للبنان تنتهي من وجهة نظر الجنرال المتقاعد في لحظة، فكيف الحال بسلالة الجنرال الباسيلية!!

  لم يشهد لبنان قلّة احترام للموت والشهادة وحقوق الشهداء مثلما شهد في اليومين الماضيين، الجنرال الحقود مقهور لماذا لم يستقبله امين الجميّل لتقديم العزاء في بيار الشهيد، نسي الجنرال الحقود ان صهره العبقري قبل أيام قليلة كان يسخر من بيار الجميّل عبر الشاشات قبيل استشهاده وفي آخر إطلالة للشهيد عبر شاشة الـ l.b..c. وفي برنامج نهاركم سعيد قائلاً للشهيد بيار عبر الهاتف: “جدك كان بيار الصخرة بس أنتَ بيبو البحصة”! بعد هذه الوقاحة يريد الجنرال ان يستقبله الشيخ امين وأم بيار ويسامحون صهره الفذّ على شتائمه في حق ابنهم قبل أيام من استشهاده!! هل هناك وقاحة أكثر من هذا أن يهينوا الناس ساعة يريدون، ثم يحقدون عليهم لأنهم يعتبرون أن الوالد والوالدة لم يفقدوا ولداً، وأن سخيفاً ناطقاً باسم التيار سمعناه بالأمس يقول: “سكت الرئيس الجميّل على دم ابنه 9 أشهر.. الآن يتحدّث لأن هناك دم وليد عيدو، لا.. دم عيدو مش أغلى من دم بيار” ارحموا الشهداء من حقدكم واحتقاركم لدمائهم، وعيب على من يدّعون الاصلاح والتغيير ان يتهموا الآباء بالمتاجرة بدم ابنائهم والأبناء بدم آبائهم، ولا نعرف بماذا بعد سيفجعنا الجنرال المتقاعد و”أوبته” الفاجرة!!

• 45. Krazy | July 30th, 2007 at 3:00 pm

  I saw pictures of the convoy (not the fight) and the people sitting in the cars don’t look like trained people.
  We can’t judge if they are thugs (or za3ran) but they are away from being trained.

  So here a scenarios that would represent your point of view;
  FPMers came with a convoy, 20 cars. They saw LFers sitting and enjoying their life and they stopped the car and attacked those innocent guys.
  Question, do you always carry your flags with you? (I put my party’s logo as a necklace but never carry the flag when going to a place).
  Another question, how were the guys identified as LFers? Can you know what party does a person support from his look?

• 46. Tony | July 30th, 2007 at 3:04 pm

  no they where in teh car they had a lf flag 3al anten the trained guys are called indibat el tayyar

• 47. Tony | July 30th, 2007 at 3:06 pm

  which war wearing zayteh trousers and black jackets and white jeeps they dont show it on tayyar.org convoy pics

• 48. Krazy | July 30th, 2007 at 3:09 pm

  “the trained guys are called indibat el tayyar which war wearing zayteh trousers and black jackets”

  you mean the guys who guard the tayyar offices from any kind of attacks? (like the attacks after Pierre’s assassination?)

• 49. Tony | July 30th, 2007 at 3:12 pm

  im not rly sure but every 5 or 6 cars there was indibat im not sure who they are but thats what i heard they are they didnt have pics of aoun on the car or anything they just ride in the car with doors open like body guards

• 50. SONIA | July 30th, 2007 at 4:18 pm

  hi,10452,I miss your posts on Rampurple’s site.

  Regards

  Sonia

• 51. SONIA | July 30th, 2007 at 4:32 pm

  I feel i don’t have a place on this site,as i know so little about Lebanese politics,except that it is a mess. But you may be interested to know that a street in Jaffa has been recently named after Khalil Gibran the Lebanese poet. Hope i have his name right.

• 52. SONIA | July 30th, 2007 at 5:01 pm

  Time to learn some facts about Lebanese politics. How many seats in parliament do theLebanese Forces have? What proportion ?

• 53. proud 2 b lf | July 30th, 2007 at 6:16 pm

  lol…..gai ppl….they cant defend themselves …..they recuit ppl to defend them…

• 54. paul | July 30th, 2007 at 7:01 pm

  http://youtube.com/watch?v=YNvZyJGzDMM

  reality video from broummana and b3bdet.

• 55. Rodge | July 30th, 2007 at 7:57 pm

  Guys,

  I think Joyce Jemayel has said the necessary today, she said it for all of us.

  If we add Gen. Tannous statement to what Mrs Gemayel said, i think those 2 persons, a straight Military man, and a Martyr’s mother should be enough to disclose Mr. Aoun.
  Even if he won, with the votes of Murr, SSNP, and Tashnaq, he will lose his self respect, and the respect of people. In fact he already lost that.

• 56. Sokhoushmoush | July 30th, 2007 at 8:52 pm

  does any body have another video of the incident?

• 57. sed l bouchrye | July 30th, 2007 at 9:06 pm

  bass 7ebib 2oul la paul 2enno 2ento ktir 2abadayet 3anjad :S bass badkoun ktir la tousalo la zenar l ouwet bel rejoule ! fa khalikoun b3ed 3an lchar la2anno bel nyheye na7na massi7ye ! bass 7ebib 2ellak 2enno mazbout massy7ie bass kamen ma bne2bal 7adan yetwajahelna b2ay kelme ghalat ! w 2alla ymari2 nhar l 2entikhabet 3a kher la2anno 3anjad 2alla yesterkoun iza 2ata3to 7doudkoun ! so0o benchouf !!!!

• 58. paul | July 30th, 2007 at 9:58 pm

  sed l bouchrye

  chou bikoun lyom 3am tithajjamo 3alaye .bil2awwal toni whalla2 inta 7abibe 3an aya comment nr. 3am ti7ke?
  lak ya ana ma ba3rif iktoub , ya into ma bta3irfo ti2ro

  asta la vista

• 59. N10452 | July 30th, 2007 at 10:10 pm

  Hello Sonia .. missed ur comments as well ..

  Are you sure you wanna know about Lebanese politics ?? loool ..

  I dont think anyone was capable of undertanding what is going on here ..

  Why dont u ask questions though and i will try answer you in the simplest way possible ..

  Email me @ samirgeagea@gmail.com if u dont wanna pots them here.

  Thank you.

• 60. taaaaaj Mat3ouj | July 30th, 2007 at 10:10 pm

  the true face of FPMers
  Just a bunch of thugs supporting a crazy general!

• 61. Sokhoushmoush | July 30th, 2007 at 10:50 pm

  Mashkal jdid bi antelias ,2 lf thugs attack a Aounist on his motorcycle with sticks, the army came and stopped the fight.

• 62. N10452 | July 30th, 2007 at 10:57 pm

  Wou wen kenet ya batal inta ???

• 63. Jester | July 31st, 2007 at 3:11 am

  This blog has ignited a virtual war against their fellow FPM. Careful brothers, you’ll tend to believe it.

• 64. Ali 1559 | July 31st, 2007 at 6:28 am

  Fadi

  Ana ma nessik bass im not gonna value you over my school . I promise you : BOKRA LA JEWBAK 3LA ALL YOUR 13 QUESTION ! Just wait fadi …..

  P.S : heke ma bitfakirne harben ya fadi ..

• 65. Johnny.B | July 31st, 2007 at 8:03 am

  Ali 1559,

  iza harabet leizim tounbouset, la2anno bitkoun siret michel aoun junior lol

• 66. Krazy | July 31st, 2007 at 11:44 am

  Paul said:
  “http://youtube.com/watch?v=YNvZyJGzDMM

  reality video from broummana and b3bdet.”

  What does this video have to do with the subject? :S

• 67. paul | July 31st, 2007 at 1:08 pm

  I now that you have expected another video fully with hate and fighting, chou 7ebib ta3rif,min ballash? I do not have expected that you understand what i would like to say in this video.

• 68. Krazy | July 31st, 2007 at 1:57 pm

  Paul, somewhere I read about someone promising a video which would protect LF’s point of view. I saw tayyar’s video and I was expecting the LF’s video. Lately I’ve learned to believe my eyes and ears only and not believe whatever is written.

  The fight happened, we can’t deny that and hope it won’t happen again!

• 69. paul | July 31st, 2007 at 2:23 pm

  krazy

  and if we have a video,it is wrong to say that the members are guilty if tayar or lfers

  only the mental leaders are guilty and from those we have infinitely many videos.so if you believe your eyas and ears, so i wonder why you did not found yet who began!

• 70. Krazy | July 31st, 2007 at 2:34 pm

  “so i wonder why you did not found yet who began!”
  I have university (summer semester) and I don’t have time to search. I can’t watch youtube at home (I gave time to download ur video from university).
  So I’m in such blogs and Forums (nowadays active in ouwet.com and another march 14 forum in which I’m a moderator).

  In my opinion, whoever was involved in the fight has to be blamed, no matter who started. (but i wanted to watch your point of view on the fight)

  For example, I always put Tashnag songs in my car and many times I get bad looks and sometimes few words. Do I park my car and go attack those guys?
  (if u were wondering how they know it’s a tashnag song, there are alot of the word “tashnag” in the songs).

• 71. SONIA | July 31st, 2007 at 4:03 pm

  Question…If there is a connection between the phalangists and the Lebanese Forces what is it?

  What was the immediate cause of the massacre at sabra and shatilla? Why are the Palestinians the objects of so much hate? Muslims versus Christians.? Fear of demographic change? Competition for jobs?

  You have my e mail if you want to reply directly.

  Regards

• 72. paul | July 31st, 2007 at 4:54 pm

  krazy

  what i want to say is,we will never find who`s began because everyone believe that the others are bad and he is a super guy.this is not the first and not the last fight between the members.
  to attack you because you hear tashnaq music is discrimination and stupid but i am sure that sometime someone will say i was attacked because i have a kataeb flag or something like that.

  so i want to ask you why tashnaq say we are with GMA? why don`t they say we let our members the choice to vote to whom they like? the same applies to kateib and tayar,this political fight reflect his own face on the ground .

• 73. Krazy | July 31st, 2007 at 5:43 pm

  Paul, Lebanon is full of political parties and everybody (even if they don’t like the candidate) will do whatever the political party says.
  In the government, the ministers are chosen according to their political affiliation and not their abilities. This is a reason why people go and vote looking to the political party and not the person!

  As for the Armenians and specially the Tashnags, we had good relationship with the Kataeb and the Gemayyel family (even though some people here , in ouwet.com, are attacking Tashnag in any way possible) but they had to ally with FPM for few reasons:
  1- In Beirut, your allies (talking about Future Movement) placed us out of your alliance bcoz we didn’t agree on “voting without participating in decisions”.
  2- Tashnag alone can not win any election anywhere in Lebanon. So we had to make an alliance.
  3- We are always in the meetings of “teghyir w el-isla7″, and we are participating in the decisions.

• 74. paul | July 31st, 2007 at 8:09 pm

  krazy

  i understand you very well.
  the problem is in the matn elections the tashnaq play a crucial role like we say on arabic “daffit lmizen”.that`s why someone is angry on the tashnaq but i am sure not because they are arman.If you make alliance with ouwet , maybe the tayyar will attack you,the situation is very strained
  so that the politician of the arman community must be moderate and smart in this time.
  i don`t live in a english speaking country ,so i hope you understand my english.

• 75. Krazy | July 31st, 2007 at 8:44 pm

  Your english is OK!
  I know why LF and Kataeb are attacking Tashnag and that’s normal but sometimes it’s better to keep the stories inside Lebanon and won’t make it reach to Armenia-Turkey.

  Now that’s not important, whatever happened has happened.
  About being smart, your allies should have been smart in the 2005 elections! They didn’t need us in Beirut but as you said, our votes are crucial in Matn.

• 76. Sokhoushmoush | July 31st, 2007 at 8:51 pm

  Good posts Krazy!! Tidetsir Otv-en haidakire?

• 77. Krazy | July 31st, 2007 at 9:22 pm

  Sokhoushmoush, i saw the documentary. They’ve done a great job

• 78. Sokhoushmoush | July 31st, 2007 at 9:29 pm

  Yeah , Bravo shad aghvor er ,paitz yete ngadetsir Camille Khouriyen zad amen inch tzetzoutzin yev meg had 7aririyin hay bashdonianeroun anoune che dvin!!
  Ass smile face inchbes genesgor?yes al bid enem.

• 79. Krazy | July 31st, 2007 at 9:41 pm

  Sokhoushmoush, send your e-mail to Krazy@LebSpy.com so that I’ll add you on my msn (if you want).

  inchbes vor msn-i vra gnes adang kresne ge kale..

• 80. paul | July 31st, 2007 at 11:19 pm

  krazy sorry i was loocking football .

  the election 2005 was a reaction against the syrian allies,and nobody has disclaim
  that,from jeajea to gemayel and many others.

  i think if someone insult the other in a angry moment after short time he repents his did ,and such comment comes from both sides .
  my personal opinion i think to 70% it will be no elections in Matn.

• 81. paul | July 31st, 2007 at 11:21 pm

  …disclaim that the elections was unfair*

• 82. Ali 1559 | August 1st, 2007 at 1:58 am

  Fad14

  I was going to reply in fully on all your 13 silly questions but i said to myself : No repetition anymore .

  You strongly beleive that Aoun is a liar and this is something i cant do none about it , do you know why?

  First , you are an lfer. ( your way or the high way)

  second, throughout life you are constanly making decisions and judgments that help satisfy your HATRED toward others . This hatred is based on socialization issues , i.e : you just dont like aoun coz he is a sell out , he left , he ran away blablablabla… It is in your head !!

  Third, This is politics ya fadi and your alliance may vary over the yrs i.e : USA / saddam and others … But the most important thing is to STICK to your case , principles and people ! The basic purpose of the win-win political conflict is to fix the prb NOT THE BLAME! AOUN AL INSSEN AL WA7ID YALLI BA3DO MECHE BI NAFESS AL MASSIRA W 72AA2 (ACHIEVED) ahdefo min doun aya tarajo3 and you CANT DENY IT!

  There are some bad apples, but the majority of us are working hard and taking pride in what we do ! And always remember that if it wasnt up to our hard work INTA MA KINET HALA2 3M TI7KE la2ino ken akid ba3do al soure bi lebenen , the 1559 resolution saved you bass ma bayan ma3kon , as 7akim says ;) : ITAKI CHAR MAN A7SSANTS ILAYH ! I love to use your own weapon in order to explain your own prb ( american style baby ) … Aoun is a liar so is 7akim and others !! Right? Lack of intergrity is the main prb in lebanon !

  Thank you FAD14 .

• 83. Ali 1559 | August 1st, 2007 at 2:05 am

  Fad14

  For generations , culture clashes have occurred between us ! This is not our fault but the west’s fault for putting 19 TAYFE in one small counrty like lebanon! This is why we do need a patriotic LEADER! FPM is the solution !

• 84. Krazy | August 1st, 2007 at 12:38 pm

  Paul said:
  “the election 2005 was a reaction against the syrian allies”

  So now we are Syrian allies!
  Who went to the streets in March 14 will all the Lebanese?

  + FPM was/is not a Syrian ally too! They were kept out too! so it wasn’t against Syrians. In my opinion, they just thought it will be better not to have too many LF and Kataeb MPs in the parliament which means they will not be obliged to give so many seats to them in the government. (1 seat for LF, who are they laughing on?)

  One more thing about Tashnag. We have supported any government in control (before 2005) so that problems won’t happen. You know we are the majority of the Armenians and if we do something wrong, you will take it on all Armenians and this is not what we want (I try to be careful on everything I say so that you won’t take a general bad idea on the Armenians).
  After 2005, you know the situation in Lebanon and everything has been made into “nkeye fik…”. That changes alot!

• 85. paul | August 1st, 2007 at 2:22 pm

  krazy

  i have also said that the elections was unfair!!! did you read that?
  you cannot write the 1/2 of my comment only because you want to be in right.

  i will give you an EXAMPLE:Krazy said:”So now we are Syrian allies”.

  you don`t need to be careful with your comments because i will never make a difference between arman and lebanese because we want to rebild a democratic country.

  the most important in my comment is!our leadres has disclaim that the elections 2005 was unfair,i undestand very well that you are angry about that ,but if you mean that 3aoun is much better to all the lebanese,”when i say lebanese i mean also the arman”you can vote for him,but i am very sure that the future will show us the reality.

  krazy: i am living in germany since long time,that`s why i am hier in the same situation like you in lebanon,such a politiciens like 3aoun we call them hier “sayings knocker`s” because after they won in the elections.they became a danger for minorities .

• 86. Krazy | August 1st, 2007 at 6:58 pm

  paul, i didn’t mean to offend you. I just took that part of your message coz you were putting everyone against your alliance under the name “Syria”.

  and about being unfair, that’s another subject that I did not touch in my post.
  I took the whole statement that you said and without changing its meaning, i wrote my answer and my point was not to show that it’s unfair. I wanted to show that your allies only care about themselves (unless they were sure they would win in Matn…).

  and about living outside, I guess you only watch LBC in Germany. that explains your opinion towards Aoun.

• 87. wassim | August 1st, 2007 at 8:10 pm

  khafefo art 7ake w ntoro nhar l a7ad w shoufo l tsunami kif ra7 yeksa7! alla aoun!

• 88. paul | August 1st, 2007 at 9:33 pm

  krazy
  believe me i have no arabic programms on my tv.because those are only propaganda chanels incl.”otv”so i can think clearly,
  and if you mean that 3aoun will care about the others. there you lie completely wrong .
  2 silly wars are enough and what did he change?to positive…nothing.

• 89. paul | August 1st, 2007 at 9:38 pm

  binnesbe ilak ya wassim l7iwar 2art 7ake
  manne mistaghrib inna tije min wa7ad bya3mil min syese alla.
  ken afdal iza bit2oul alla ymarri2 halintichabet 3a salemeh.

• 90. wassim | August 1st, 2007 at 9:43 pm

  n2ala rad btomro2 l entikhabet 3a salemeh eza ento 23adto 3a2lin l a7ad w ma tza3ranto! w eza metel 3adetkon tza3ranto la tkhawfo l 3alam ma tenzal tentekheb se3eta b2akedlak ma bto2ta3 3a saleme….

• 91. paul | August 1st, 2007 at 9:47 pm

  nchallah nafs yalle 2ilto t2oulo kamen lajame3tak.

• 92. Ali 1559 | August 1st, 2007 at 9:55 pm

  Wassim

  bto2ta3 3a saleme….

  Ya3ne chu assdak ? Ass7ab al badlet al zaytiye ra7 bifikoulon ra2biton? Man , i love your comments ……

• 93. paul | August 1st, 2007 at 9:58 pm

  mabrouk 3leik Ali ya wassim

• 94. Ali 1559 | August 1st, 2007 at 10:06 pm

  Paul

  Ma into dalyto ti7o ino cha3biyit AOUN nizlit w ra7it w hala2 ma ba2 3rfin chu badkon t2oulo anymore ….

  3ind al imti7an yokaram al mar2o aw youhan !

  C ya sunday paul and make sure to COPY & PASTE the results for me coz you are good at doing it

  Hayde mine 2ilak : :” يا ابني ما تخلي العاطفة تجرك، كون عقلاني وانتبه لتصرفاتك، العاطفة تجرك نحو الخطأ والخطيئة والعقل يجرك نحو الخلاص ونحو الحلول السليمة”by M.aoun .

• 95. paul | August 1st, 2007 at 10:08 pm

  krazy

  read those comments and think twice.
  you did not really earn such people

• 96. paul | August 1st, 2007 at 10:15 pm

  This is not our fault but the west’s fault for putting—> 19 TAYFE

• 97. paul | August 1st, 2007 at 10:19 pm

  This is not our fault but the west’s fault for putting 19 TAYFE in one small counrty like lebanon!

  Krazy,what do you think when you read something like that?
  This is exactly what i try to tell you all the time .

• 98. Ali 1559 | August 1st, 2007 at 11:57 pm

  Ya paul tayib 19 hizeb , 19 religions, 19 tahfe , 19 harame , 19 whatevet you wanna call it….

  Is it true or not paul? Just like bringing the jews from west russian into the palestinian soil ……

• 99. Ali 1559 | August 1st, 2007 at 11:59 pm

  Paul

  Chu 3indak 7al ?

• 100. Tony | August 2nd, 2007 at 12:51 am

  Not all tashnak are going to support aoun for 1 all my armenian relatives voted for aoun last time but they h8 the fact they did all my relatives are going to vote for shiekh amin and there friends are just to prove not all tashnak members are going to vote for khoury

• 101. paul | August 2nd, 2007 at 9:38 am

  ali

  inta 2ilit tayya houe l7al,fa inta 2ille kif ha7all?

• 102. Krazy | August 2nd, 2007 at 12:11 pm

  Paul, sorry for coming late and reading whatever they have written.
  I don’t care how many sects there are in Lebanon! we have to learn to live together in peace. I don’t put any difference between a shiite or a Sunni or any other sect!
  About the TV stations, YES OTV is also a propaganda channel no matter what they say!
  that’s why I never listen to the comments any TV reporter says, I only listen to the speeches the politicians make and change the channel!

  and for Tony, my cousin used to be with March 14 (even though he supports Tashnag between the Armenians) and we always used to argue with each other about what Aoun was doing wrong and March 14 was doing wrong.
  Now, he has started talking against March 14.
  So people change! But you have to make your friends in ouwet.com understand not to talk against Tashnag bcoz they generalize the alliance with Aoun with all the Tashnag. (search the word “Armenian” in ouwet.com and you’ll know what I am talking about).

  One more thing I have to say about Tashnag. they have good relations with Kataeb and most probably half of their supporters would have voted for Kataeb bcoz of that but putting Amine Gemayyel as candidate made some backed up from voting for your candidate.

  Thank you for understanding this and thanks for giving the examples of your relatives.

• 103. paul | August 2nd, 2007 at 7:05 pm

  krazy

  N wrote about the integration of arman,and i think he is maybe the first one in lebanon
  who wrote about it.this is a positive sign to discuss the problem for the future.the negative COMMENTs are very few ,and from the same persons.

  the comment with 19 tayfe is from Ali 1559 and not from me.and hier i have the same opinion like your.

• 104. paul | August 2nd, 2007 at 7:19 pm

  ali 1559

  chou lmachkal iza 3inna 19 tayfe?

  can u pls answer?
  protestant,jews,babtists,arman orthodox,arman catholic,siryen,ashourieh,chou ba3d fi akaliyet?chi marra talabo chi minne aou minnak?fakkaret marra bi72ou2oun l2ijtime3ieh?w3a chou 3am ta3miloun 7ramieh? the trouble maker are only the head religions,w2aktar 3alam 3am ya3mlo machekil hinne yalle ma3oun sle7 w7assin 7aloun 2abadayet.
  halla2 min ma3o minnoun 7a2 wmin 3lei 7a2 hon btichtilif l2ara2.
  ana ra2ye,ma nkoun 3atoul did lizghar (bil3adad) beinetna.

• 105. Ali 1559 | August 3rd, 2007 at 5:43 am

  Paul

  Ma 3m ba3ref when al michikle bayne w baynak la2ino ana i do agree on your 104!!

  bass ana ken assde ino the west ba3telna 400,000 falasstine, 300,000 armane (ma3 kell i7tirame lal arman ana ma assde chi abadan , they do have a case and i do respect it ) hayda gher 3n al akaliyet back in the 1800’s ….

  ba3den eh FPM is the solution coz they represent a long-term patriotic plans ….

  Thank you …

• 106. SONIA | August 3rd, 2007 at 2:51 pm

  Hi,10452, Thanks to a comprehensive article in the Jerusalem Post of August 2 with the title of Cross Purposes,on the subject of Lebanese political parties, I am in more of a position to understand what you guys are so het up about.To the ignorant you sound kind of crazy.
  I was surprised to read of the large Christian support for Hizbullah.About 50% if the report is correct.
  Keep up the good work.

• 107. elie | August 14th, 2008 at 5:53 pm

  alla ouwet hakim w bass

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