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	<title>Comments on: Waltz with Bashir</title>
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	<description>Personal Views and opionions of Lebanese Forces members</description>
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		<title>By: Flathorlin</title>
		<link>http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/information/waltz-with-bashir/comment-page-1/#comment-496878</link>
		<dc:creator>Flathorlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 03:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know of anywhere that I can download this video or watch it streaming?</description>
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		<title>By: Jacques</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey all,

I saw the movie today, and am afraid all what you are saying is true, but also the majority of what the films shows, these are important points:

1)Shows Israelis killing families
2)Shows Israelis killing animals (dogs and horses) and regretting it
3)Shows them acknowledging doing war crimes and soldiers haunted by it
4)Shows Ariel Sharon could have acted to stop the massacre 
5)Shows that some of them where repelled of what happened
6)Shows they knew Sabra and Chatila was gonna happen this way and that command in different ranks knew of it happening yet each blamed the other
7)You cant expect a better perspective from an Israeli...

About the LF:

1)It reminds how much Bashir was loved and how much hope was upon him
2)Each of you know that each LF fighter then was eager even to commit the massacre even if deep inside is against his Christianity and his beliefs but at the heat of the moment and instinct of vengeance were more than motif then
3)We know a lot were capable from LF to commit it, personnally I find it hard no one participated then, I think it was joint between the Israelis and LF
4)Ok this movies shows that massacre, but we know each militia then had its fair share of massacre, ma 7ada 7a2o daye3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey all,</p>
<p>I saw the movie today, and am afraid all what you are saying is true, but also the majority of what the films shows, these are important points:</p>
<p>1)Shows Israelis killing families<br />
2)Shows Israelis killing animals (dogs and horses) and regretting it<br />
3)Shows them acknowledging doing war crimes and soldiers haunted by it<br />
4)Shows Ariel Sharon could have acted to stop the massacre<br />
5)Shows that some of them where repelled of what happened<br />
6)Shows they knew Sabra and Chatila was gonna happen this way and that command in different ranks knew of it happening yet each blamed the other<br />
7)You cant expect a better perspective from an Israeli&#8230;</p>
<p>About the LF:</p>
<p>1)It reminds how much Bashir was loved and how much hope was upon him<br />
2)Each of you know that each LF fighter then was eager even to commit the massacre even if deep inside is against his Christianity and his beliefs but at the heat of the moment and instinct of vengeance were more than motif then<br />
3)We know a lot were capable from LF to commit it, personnally I find it hard no one participated then, I think it was joint between the Israelis and LF<br />
4)Ok this movies shows that massacre, but we know each militia then had its fair share of massacre, ma 7ada 7a2o daye3</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
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		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually PERSEPOLIS is being shown in Empire Sofil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually PERSEPOLIS is being shown in Empire Sofil.</p>
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		<title>By: rach</title>
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		<dc:creator>rach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of S &#38; C - anybody know who the soldiers were that were outside of the Gaza Hospital on 9/18/82 - the ones that gathered the nurses and doctors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of S &amp; C - anybody know who the soldiers were that were outside of the Gaza Hospital on 9/18/82 - the ones that gathered the nurses and doctors?</p>
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		<title>By: shalom</title>
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		<dc:creator>shalom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 04:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey 
who are we kiding in here ...
all lebanese , with all branches have done something terrible as sabra and chatilla the aim in here to see the other point of view.
and i think it s silly to talk stuff about some party keeping weapon for some reason ;am i right WHATEVER ,the chiaa militia also have done cruel thing ...any way ....
i realy hope they r gonna let it come to lebanon and be broadcasted in the theater and not like what happened to the movie PERSEPOLIS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey<br />
who are we kiding in here &#8230;<br />
all lebanese , with all branches have done something terrible as sabra and chatilla the aim in here to see the other point of view.<br />
and i think it s silly to talk stuff about some party keeping weapon for some reason ;am i right WHATEVER ,the chiaa militia also have done cruel thing &#8230;any way &#8230;.<br />
i realy hope they r gonna let it come to lebanon and be broadcasted in the theater and not like what happened to the movie PERSEPOLIS</p>
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		<title>By: JohnC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Whatever ( who left comment 19)
it is unbelievable that people like you can comment about the LF and associate their ideaologies with the Nazi's. Your opinions are ignorant and it's mindsets like yours that hold back Lebanon from growing.
It is especially unbelievable that you call LF fascist when you support Hezbollah and Aoun when Nasrallah wants to "aslim Lubnan". When the head of a so-called political party bluntly says that he wants to impose his religion on a country this is what you call fascism. And you  call LF nazi's???
And no, Christians have no chance with Aoun, because Aoun is Nasrallah puppet. Once Nasrallah achieves his goals with his puppet he will get rid of him and the rest of the Christians. Aoun has sold his soul to the devil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Whatever ( who left comment 19)<br />
it is unbelievable that people like you can comment about the LF and associate their ideaologies with the Nazi&#8217;s. Your opinions are ignorant and it&#8217;s mindsets like yours that hold back Lebanon from growing.<br />
It is especially unbelievable that you call LF fascist when you support Hezbollah and Aoun when Nasrallah wants to &#8220;aslim Lubnan&#8221;. When the head of a so-called political party bluntly says that he wants to impose his religion on a country this is what you call fascism. And you  call LF nazi&#8217;s???<br />
And no, Christians have no chance with Aoun, because Aoun is Nasrallah puppet. Once Nasrallah achieves his goals with his puppet he will get rid of him and the rest of the Christians. Aoun has sold his soul to the devil</p>
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		<title>By: Noam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 15:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an Israeli soldier, at the time in Lebanon, I can report first hand, that the Christian Militia were involved in the specific massacre, but not only that.
Their tratment of The palestinians was inhumane.
They used the Israelis as a sheild for their behaviour, and that is the only blame the Israelies carry.
That being said, that is not a justification for the Hezb. to continue on with more of the same, as an excuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an Israeli soldier, at the time in Lebanon, I can report first hand, that the Christian Militia were involved in the specific massacre, but not only that.<br />
Their tratment of The palestinians was inhumane.<br />
They used the Israelis as a sheild for their behaviour, and that is the only blame the Israelies carry.<br />
That being said, that is not a justification for the Hezb. to continue on with more of the same, as an excuse.</p>
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		<title>By: Whatever</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 21:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being Lebanese and thankfully having nothing to do with the right-wing naziclub ideology of the LF I look forward to this movie immensely. This happened only 25 years ago and even the israeli's remember the LF as murderous collaborators. Now you understand why Hezb cannot give up their weapons. They need them to stop Judas mindsets like the LF's that threatens Lebanon as a country of equals without it's people living under the Facista LF flag. Funny how some lebanese find it so easy to sell out their fellow countrymen for the hope of power(anyone remember the SLA?).  Thankfully the planned genocide failed and lebanon's christians still have a chance with Aoun.  You should be thankful to the guy.  The Shia are no longer 2nd class citizen and don't always agree with the LF and you'll just have to deal with that :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being Lebanese and thankfully having nothing to do with the right-wing naziclub ideology of the LF I look forward to this movie immensely. This happened only 25 years ago and even the israeli&#8217;s remember the LF as murderous collaborators. Now you understand why Hezb cannot give up their weapons. They need them to stop Judas mindsets like the LF&#8217;s that threatens Lebanon as a country of equals without it&#8217;s people living under the Facista LF flag. Funny how some lebanese find it so easy to sell out their fellow countrymen for the hope of power(anyone remember the SLA?).  Thankfully the planned genocide failed and lebanon&#8217;s christians still have a chance with Aoun.  You should be thankful to the guy.  The Shia are no longer 2nd class citizen and don&#8217;t always agree with the LF and you&#8217;ll just have to deal with that <img src='http://www.ouwet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Leb voice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leb voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the truth of Sabra and Chatilla is very elusive... Robert Hatem who was outside the camps that night (he was the bodyguard of Elie Hobeika) says in his book that it was Hobeika's lackeys that did the killing, However, in "Les Secrets De La Guerre du Liban" the story goes in a different matter. According to Alain Menargues who did extensive research through Israely and Lebanese archives says that it was Israelies in Lebanese Forces uniforms and not the LFer themselves, who first went in and started the genocide. The two aren't completely contradictory nor are they necessarily true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the truth of Sabra and Chatilla is very elusive&#8230; Robert Hatem who was outside the camps that night (he was the bodyguard of Elie Hobeika) says in his book that it was Hobeika&#8217;s lackeys that did the killing, However, in &#8220;Les Secrets De La Guerre du Liban&#8221; the story goes in a different matter. According to Alain Menargues who did extensive research through Israely and Lebanese archives says that it was Israelies in Lebanese Forces uniforms and not the LFer themselves, who first went in and started the genocide. The two aren&#8217;t completely contradictory nor are they necessarily true.</p>
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		<title>By: Arze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 13:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im gonna watch it to Jhonny as soon as i have the chance ! But what is said , is that the world will see bachir and the christians as the butchers...

i suggest we make a movie about him : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im gonna watch it to Jhonny as soon as i have the chance ! But what is said , is that the world will see bachir and the christians as the butchers&#8230;</p>
<p>i suggest we make a movie about him : )</p>
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