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• 1. NBG_team | December 27th, 2008 at 12:49 am

  Merci cher N,
  Il me faudra un peu de temps pour m adapter la a ton blog, mais je suis confiante qu on aboutira aux resultats voulus.

  A bientot.

• 2. Delta | December 27th, 2008 at 5:04 am

  thats what you calla Christmas gift

• 3. Waha Wera | December 27th, 2008 at 6:17 am

  sounds like a good idea. If a candidate wants to front up and answer questions its a good thing.

• 4. Fuziyad | December 27th, 2008 at 6:25 am

  As those who hang around here know am not a big fan of the bache and am against feudal politics…

  I also on a personal level dislike both sami and youmna(dunno nadim) and very strongly disagree with sami’s thoughts same way i would have disagreed with the ideology of his grandpa…

  However, tallat el soumoud is my hometown and march 14 is my religion, beirut 1 is the battle of all battles and ashrafieh will proudly teach a lesson to the orange clown…may god bless cheikh nadim and make him victorious against the mullah puppets…

  NBG team, we are all behind you!!!allah ya3tikoun el 3afié!!

• 5. PK | December 27th, 2008 at 6:43 am

  3eyesha

• 6. Anonymous | December 27th, 2008 at 7:15 am

  I happen to vote in Ashrafieh and will be coming next spring especially to vote, 13 hour trip from NYC, but it’s worth it.
  Now the big question: what is NBG’s program and on whose list will he be running ?
  I hope he will not stain his father’s memory by allying himself with FM… In my own humble opinion this would be the ultimate disgrace…

• 7. Che | December 27th, 2008 at 7:15 am

  So long as we continue to succumb to the son or daughter of zaiim, sheikh, etc., as another zaiim or sheikh by default, with natural gifts that are godly bestowed upon him or her to tackle the wheeling & dealing of Lebanese politics we may as well bury our heads in sand.

  This is the 21st century (thanks captain obvious), & not the ottoman empire during which time lay Christian people were exploited by local chieftains. And amazingly, even highly educated people still would give in to the Lebanese feudal system, and go out of their way to justify its existence as if it’s the Book of Lebanese Genesis!

  First, we need to revolt against such a system.

  Second, we must establish an organization that becomes the political pillar of Christians, and survives the times of conflicts irrespective of who comes and goes.

  Third, I am emphatically against throwing our weight behind anyone just because he or she is the son or daughter of a zaiim. That is the height of ignorance and insult to my intelligence, and your statement “Nadim Gemayel, despite all his disadvantages and weaknesses, presents the best chance to break this vicious political circle we are in…” is an example. What’s so special about him, politically speaking of course?

  Samir Geagea along with gifted people like George Adwan are on the right path for reorganizing the Lebanese Forces. Samir Geagea is the leader now and NO ONE ELSE. He’s the one you must support! Both paid heavy prices as youngsters fighting invaders and deserve every chance to lead the Lebanese Forces as an organization toward regrouping the Christians in a meaningful way for the first time after the calamity brought upon us by the DOG Aoun.

  I suggest that Nadim Gemayel joins the echelon of the Lebanese Forces and throws his weight and support behind Samir Geagea. That’s the right thing to do.

• 8. N10452 | December 27th, 2008 at 8:34 am

  Che,
  I am surprised as to how you started ur reply and how you ended it :S
  The Lebanese Forces is today a dictatorship whether you like it or not .. and Hakim has turned it into a one-man show …

  Nadim Gemayel’s advantage over anyone else as i see it is his honesty, cleaniness and credibility … he is young and he is starting off his career not as the son of Bashir, not as the son of Sheikh SOlange .. but as Nadim ..

  Added to that, i am not throwing my weight behind anyone, i am not saying Nadim is the next Bashir .. all am saying is i see good from this man if you support him ( which is by critisizing or agreeing with him) and one opportunity to do so is to let one of his close people post about him and get your feedback guys ..

  I am totally against Nadim joining the LF under Samir Geagea now, as it will burn him ..

• 9. Keane | December 27th, 2008 at 9:36 am

  N,
  you see, the question imposes itself..
  Apparently, you have relations with Nadim Gemayel and you base yourself on this relation to confirm that he is clean and honest. Not wanting to discuss this imposed fact right now, I must ask, just because you don’t have strong bonds with the rest of the Lebanese politicians, does that give you enough ground to discredit them all from their honesty and cleansity?
  I mean, next thing you know, when nadim will be making more political errors, you’ll be saying “No no, I know the guy, he’s clean and honest, he probably did it out of good intentions…”

• 10. Bachir 7ay Fina | December 27th, 2008 at 10:23 am

  welcome NBG_team, we r waiting ur first post

• 11. paul | December 27th, 2008 at 12:18 pm

  Bienvenue sur ouwet.com,vous ne trouverez ici que des amis.(même les hizbollah’s)

• 12. ja3far | December 27th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

  it is strange how much the others were able to move forward and how much you have gone ba-ckw-ard…
  ya-3ni, lebanon cannot survive without strong christians …good luck to any potential politician that can make a positive diference… but i think nadim have a very very very long way to go .. in addition to the fact that i have questions how far his so called allies will support him

  good luck

• 13. danny | December 27th, 2008 at 1:14 pm

  Guys & Gals,

  Before all of you flip your lids from the deep end…This is Lebanon; remember? What political program? They are running against the terrorist mulla turbines and their chihuahua lap dog…It is still the tribal feudal society. Don’t let anyone fool you. From the Lemonade vendors (Hassoon and his cuz) to the OJ stalls(GG& the lap dog etc)…
  Let’s not attack this system NOW…There is none! We are in the middle of a mafia controlled environment! The main objective seems to be the elimination of the Yellow Fever (the Terrorists who want to liberate Gaza now)…There can be no cohabitation with this cancer!

  I for one would like to hear that Nadim has high goals and expectations…That he is ready to be civil and modern and not fall back to tribal crap! The most important factor though…make sure that by June 09; that OJ with Lemon with a touch of Lime will be the Juice of the day…all squeezzed!

• 14. danny | December 27th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

  N,

  I am a bit confused with he/she??? Is that a he or she?

• 15. THERESINIA | December 27th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

  My father was very close to Bashir and a few years older than him. He told me that when Bashir started he was young and not experienced; but he was bright, sincere, honest, straight, held to his word, respectful and immensely patriotic. He had an extraordinary quality: his ability to analyse and synthetize. He could listen for very long time to many people and then make a synthesis which was at the minimum BRILLIANT! He gained a lot as he grew because he had this extraordinary leadership quality of being thirsty of learning. So good luck to Nadim.

  My question to all: is it forbidden to someone JUST because he is the son – or the daughter – of a politician – to follow his footsteps? Why? On the contrary, I believe that when children take their parents as a symbol and want to follow their legacy, it is because they want to pursue their principles, values and ideals.

• 16. ja3far | December 27th, 2008 at 2:11 pm

  chou fuziad… 120 killed , 200 injured in very few hours … est ce qu ils sont mechants les israelians ou pas?

• 17. Rodge | December 27th, 2008 at 4:08 pm

  Of course NBG_team will have our full cooperation.
  I personally welcome her,
  and people, even if you have some critics and opinions, please be kind to give her and eventually give Nadim Gemayel a chance.
  I don’t see him as a son ofd a zaiim, first of all he’s the son of Bashir 9someone who can’t be described as zaiim but as a soul, a whole country and a world), and second because this guy will not inherit anything, his father died 26 years ago, and his mother is just a deputy not a zaiim, so I belive he can make his own za3emeh if he manage to be a good politician, which is something we can feel in our new friend’s writings.

• 18. Fuziyad | December 27th, 2008 at 4:08 pm

  trés méchants ya ja3far…chi jdid???btw the main target of this attack is fatah and abou mazen who will be weakened by that…

  Still I have to say that for example the head of gaza police who 2 days ago decided to start using corporal punishment and crucification is not someone am gonna cry…

  let’s hope syria and iran won’t answer from lebanon, that would be bad…

• 19. ja3far | December 27th, 2008 at 4:19 pm

  see ya sahbi.. what was their excuse? the palestinians are making noise while they are being starved to death ???
  wallah harram

• 20. a5watz | December 27th, 2008 at 4:44 pm

  N. hala2 kel siesse bado yenzal bado ykoun ebn chi za3im ?? this is a feodalism, this mentality should be eradicatd once and for all.

  If u want to speak for everybody, then u must be everybody, that means anybody should be able to do it not just old political families.

  Regards.

• 21. Delta | December 27th, 2008 at 5:16 pm

  N please do not post about the gaza massacre i dont think they posted about damour and all the massacres they did to our people

• 22. Delta | December 27th, 2008 at 5:17 pm

  JA3far
  I totaly agree with you but this aint our business lets build our country first and solve our problems and then we will figure away to help the palestine

• 23. ja3far | December 27th, 2008 at 5:26 pm

  Delta… the palestinians who were involved in the lebanese war were the one who payed the most.. at least we dream of making a future …if u ever come to lebanon in a visit just take a tour to the refugee camps and you will understand ..

  however, the first step in helping our country and ourselves is developping our human side…

  honestly, today, watching 150 people slaughtered just like that , my heart cannot do anything but weep…

• 24. Delta | December 27th, 2008 at 5:43 pm

  while weeping on the palestinians did u weep on the isreali civilians that hass been attacked during last week since u are talking about the human side? ?

  these dum a.sss been lunching stupid rockets on isreal on a daily basis and now they get the big arm the weep and ween ??

  its discusting and by the way how is it that most scenes includes a bunch of guys that were all grouped next to each others i am sick and tired of the palestinians making them selves look like the victim ? watch the news they would not lift the guy he is screaming untill someone come and take picture of him ” sawir sawir sawir ” is that the arabic pride?

  stop being vulnerable ya ja3far to the arab human side of the story but be vulnerable to both sides !!!

  i wish u a great day

• 25. Delta | December 27th, 2008 at 5:58 pm

  and by the way fo all blogers :

  thats a great exemple you vote for Aoun … this what we are gonna end up being and this is what our country would look like .
  vote for 14 of march none pf that would happen

• 26. Rambo | December 27th, 2008 at 5:59 pm

  How can we post questions? Should we forward them? Should we post them under this thread? what is the process?

• 27. N10452 | December 27th, 2008 at 6:41 pm

  Guys stick to the topic ..
  I will delete all Gaza related posts ..

• 28. ziad-italy | December 27th, 2008 at 6:45 pm

  eh bass men ba3ed amerkon … ya posts in english ya in frensh with subtitles …
  c’est vrai qu’on gasouille le francais mais on a oubliee!

  wleh ja3far men emtan bte7ki francais !!! a7san ma ballesh fikon bel telyeni !!!

• 29. ja3far | December 27th, 2008 at 6:52 pm

  N… since when do u block discussions and oblige us to stick to the topic?
  why did you delete my reply to delta?
  shou sourna mamnou3e nihki?
  are u scared of the truth?
  do u think that we the great lebanese nation are far away from what is hapening ?

  Delta… N deleted my previous post … and may be he will not let this pass neither .. any way if it passed …did u know what was happening to the palestinians under siege in the last monthes?did u know that the united nation ambassadeur to palestine was kicked away from israel as he accused them to similar war crimes to the nazists in ghaza only few weeks ago…

• 30. danny | December 27th, 2008 at 7:50 pm

  N,

  As you opened the can…It is an extra work for u I know, however, people should honor an appropriate etiquette while commenting…Veering off once OK…but we are getting a digression all over the freaking map! Sometimes it’s sounding like the Dating game or 2ahwet el 2ezez…

  I mean if people want to communicate separately, I suggest they trade emails…

  That’s my two cents worth…

• 31. N10452 | December 27th, 2008 at 8:05 pm

  Ja3far,
  If u ve done it before, it doesnt mean i was ok with it .
  I hate people deviating from topics and maybe its 2009’s new resolution i should consider deleting all off topic posts ..

  I will post about Gaza now and u can talk all you want ..

• 32. ja3far | December 27th, 2008 at 8:09 pm

  Delta… as N is back to being reasonable and didn’t delete my previous reply .. I will give u some information.. ( please N stay reasonable)
  You were talking about the two way opinion…
  Did you know that ghaza was under siege for the last months?
  Did you know that the people didn’t have the minimum of electricity, medicine, food nor water?
  Do you know that the normal family in ghaza had access to less then a gallon of drinking water per week?
  Did u know that people were dying from lack of medicine and hunger?
  Do you know that during all this period the Palestinians were maintaining cease fire… even when the Israelis were killing them under the siege?
  Then when the Palestinians didn’t have anything else to loose .. they said they will stop their side of the cease fire till the siege is removed… do you want them to die without even saying akh??? Anou halaad wislet?

  I will give you a paragraph of an article written by Alex fishman on yediot ahronot:
  Two days ago:
  On Thursday, Hamas taught Israel a lesson in persistence. In the first days after the group renewed its fire – around December 19th – Hamas fired a relatively small number of rockets towards Israeli communities, without hitting them. This was a warning signal: Don’t mess with us. We will operate all the way to the Gaza fence, and you won’t dare hit us.
  However, Israel deviated from the rules of the game dictated by Hamas and killed three group members on the border. Hamas says we killed two more of its members within Gaza (in what we characterized as a “work accident.)

  Then you talk about the people left in the ground… Do u think ghaza is the states? Most of the hospitals cannot handle few injuries … what about 205 killed and hundreds of injured … and then you talk about them being victims? Of course they are victims… they are victims since 1945 when the world wanted to pay back for the jews in taking the life and the future of millions of Palestinians … yazalami ma tajanini..
  N.. ma tenza3a … please keep my comment

• 33. ja3far | December 27th, 2008 at 8:11 pm

  N… what make this blog special is the ability of free communication… please dont turn it into school and students… btinza3a

• 34. Delta | December 27th, 2008 at 10:27 pm

  JA3far ill answer ur post on ghaza on the new post of ghaza la2ano il hay2a N ngarah chou3ouro. ma badna ndeye2 hadda khayeh nihna

• 35. Che | December 27th, 2008 at 11:51 pm

  In post #8 you wrote “The Lebanese Forces is today a dictatorship whether you like it or not..”

  Please illuminate me by providing “factual events” indicating than the LF is a dictatorship. You certainly are entitled to your opinion; but be ready to face reality when you make such strong & unfounded statements about an organization that has tried in a short time, and under extremely unfavorable conditions to regroup us following several calamities between Aoun and the Syrians.

  On the contrary, I find the LF to be very democratic in its approach, goals, and views, and able to attract the youths as university results have indicated lately and very compellingly.

  I hope you’re not one of those stuck-up hard-core Kisirwan mountaineer-schmucks who disparagingly looks down at northern Maronites when it comes to leadership, and views them with disdain at best.

• 36. Anonymous | December 28th, 2008 at 12:31 am

  lots of ping pong playing, accusations, counter accusations etc… no reply whatsoever on the guy’s program. If it’s just: my last name is gemayel and my father was a hero, please vote for me… Well thanks but no thanks, I’ll pass.
  Stop the “hors sujet” stuff and focus on what matters. NBG_team and N10452 enlighten us and let us us know the program, the affiliation, the alliances etc… this is what really matters, not if he’s geagea’s friend, or if LF is a dictatorship.
  In civilized countries that’s what really matters, not names or family fortunes or any other superficial stuff like that… Yalla nawrouna… does he have a website at least ?

• 37. theCourtFool | December 28th, 2008 at 2:10 am

  NBG_team, I look forward to your posts and the political inclination and direction of the young Bashir.

• 38. Rima | December 28th, 2008 at 3:01 am

  From the beginning, Solange Gemayel distinguished her political stance from both LF and Amin Gemayel. She is what we call the hardliner that did not accept to move one inch from Bashir’s “khat”.

  In my opinion, Nadim should have the chance of proving himself and build a political career that his father would be proud of. He is not obliged to follow LF but at the same time he is not supposed to run against LF. We need political unity among 14th March Christians as Fuziad mentioned above.

  I am also against ” wiratti siyessiyeh” if it is the rule but if is just part of our political map it is ok. No problem daughters and sons of politicians should have also their share….for Now…..

  Welcome NBG…looking forward to reading your posts.

• 39. charbel | December 28th, 2008 at 4:49 am

  N,

  You really think that Nadim’s “honesty” is what is going to get him elected?

  How did Nadim become known to the residents of Acharfieh and for that matter Lebanon?
  The answer is very simple…one word…GEMAYEL

  So please do not tell us that his honesty is what would get him elected. If that’s the case i’d be running for one of the catholic seats in zahle and I would win!!!

  I guess what I’m gonna say next is also a reply to Che.
  Feudalism is as Lebanese as any other practice that we are so proud of…
  We drive badly, and we call it the Lebanese way…
  Well it applies to our democratic process as well… it is an imperfect democracy… and it is called Lebanese democracy…
  Maybe with time we will be able to diminish feudalism from our system… int he meantime we have to deal with…
  Hakim knows that, ask him about how we, as Lebanese-Forces, are forming our alliances in the different cazas…

  What makes Nadim Gemayel a good candidate, for me at least, is the fact that he is a Gemyel, he is the son of Bachir, he is both LF and Kataeb, and he is “politically clean” ( honest or whatever other adjectives that might suit him)

  And NBG_team welcome, best of luck for Sheikh Nadim (I would love to see him in addition to Nayla Tueni become MPs, as Lebanese youth we can’t ask for better representatives), and will be looking forward for your contributions

• 40. Doc1559 | December 28th, 2008 at 5:32 am

  When it comes to feudalism, you have to look at the history of the middle east and the kingdoms in particular. It has been nothing but a FAILURE and frustration on how to lead..

  Having NADIM leading bcoz he’s the son of bashir is like having the younger kid in the family managing the whole house!! Doesnt work that way !

  Personality is everthing in politics, I think nadims lacks in alot of places(the way he talks and where he lives)…. I still remember when M.ghanem on one of his kalam al ness episode was trying to help the guy(nadim) out making a simple political point…

  Good luck anyway…

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