Comments on: A Visit to the Spider’s Web ..

By: N10452

N10452 — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:44:14 +0000

Ra’fat,

I thank you for ur reply, but i must say we should learn to accept things as they are and stop lying to ourselves.

HA supporters are Lebanese, of course, but Hezbollah is not working for lebanon, it doesnt give a damn about this country and whomever is following him is as responsible as Nasrallah and the HA leadership.
And they have a lot to learn about patriotism.

No one was financing us nor helping us politically as LFers.

You tell me we should provide the Shiite people with money and means to live ??
I tell you WHATEVER !!

Their ministers and MPS have been STEALING millions of dollars for years, if they wished to help their people they would have but a part of the HA strategy is to keep the people poor in order to control them better, to satisfy them with small amounts of money and living conditions and exploiting their misery to gain political points…

Moussa el Sadr was the only one who wanted to integrate the Shiite society into the Lebanese one and improve their conditions.

HA just wants to build his islamic state and keep the people poor and ignorant to control them better.

By: Ali 1559

Ali 1559 — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:10:30 +0000

I want to thank RA’FAT on his open minded commentary . His comment is a perfect example for you to learn from . No doubt , Ra’fat is LF-er and from this point up , I would like to raise a simple question:
How can we get the rest of the ouwet community to think the way RA’FAT does?

By: Delta

Delta — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:19:56 +0000

garbage

By: Ra'fat

Ra'fat — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:01:58 +0000

First, please don’t insult me by calling me a FPM’r, all the issues that have been raised are pretty much on the money, I cant say I disagree with anyone, my only qualm is that telling them to go to hell wont get us anywhere, we need to reach an understanding. As for the dividing of Lebanon, if we were as much of a majority as we were before the civil war, then yes I would have been all for it, but given the weakened state of the Christians, I don’t think we would get a fair slice of the pie, and for real, we have been able to control nothing in the past twenty years, what makes you guys think we could get what we want on our own? As I see it, we are caught between a rock and a hard place. I think the difference between my belief and yours is that separate HA leadership from the common HA follower where I feel the leadership is my enemy, but not the people. I still feel that no matter who you are, you are gonna be loyal to the side that offers you ….
1- No one was bigger than the lf during the civil war, but we still gave up our weapons. What HA wants to prevent is such a climate where all sides force them to lay their weapons (like the climate in 1990), and that is our job to accomplish (reply to #7) A country will never move forward without getting rid of all the militias. First you dismantle the military arm, then you weaken the financing arm.
2-Again, HA leadership does not want a government, not the shiite people. Everything Muhammad said is correct, I was meerly proposing a means to approach the problem, as I do not know the solution, but I know that us killing and cursing each other never got us anywhere, but you know what, this generation is free to try that again….
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By: Ali 1559

Ali 1559 — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:18:15 +0000

Abu hatab

ma al 3taB 3lek ya abu hataB , al 3tab 3la USA (7alifak ) li tarak israel thabet baladak ! La aktar wla 2a2l !

By: mikel

mikel — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:06:50 +0000

“Lebanon is too small to be divided”
typical FPMer Ra’fat

no one making speeches here

And I think muhammad answered you on everything else.

By: Abou Hatab

Abou Hatab — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:53:56 +0000

No Mr. Ali! Nothing is for free!
It cost more than 1200 civilians and billions of $ to our economy!

By: Mohammad

Mohammad — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:58:46 +0000

Ra’fat,

In order to agree on what you said, let me ask you few questions:

1- You want the country to help those people? ok, If the gov decided to build a factory in south that employes 10,000 workers. Do you garantee that such a factory will not be destroyed due to “MOGHAMARA” from Hassona?

2- PARIS 3 gave us 7 billion dollars!!!! Who is preventing the gov from receiving them???

3- The current gov was assigned in summer 2005. After 6 months, HA_AMAL ministers “3takafo” for 1 month. Then after 6 months “3emlolna 7arb tammouz” then after 6 month “they resigned” DO YOU SEE HOW THEY ARE HELPING THE GOV?

To cut it short, those people do NOT want Lebanon as a country! They want their own country with their rules.

By: Johnny.B

Johnny.B — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 05:56:40 +0000

Ra’faat,

It takes more than a passport to make a person Lebanese !

By: Ali 1559

Ali 1559 — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 05:46:32 +0000

Was it free?