A Visit to the Spider’s Web .. at The Ouwet Front: A Lebanese Forces Blog

A Visit to the Spider’s Web ..

Posted by N10452

I had heard about this museum before, and i was always tempted to go and so i did. We headed to Hadath and asked for directions, a man who apparently is an HA supporter drew us the way on a piece of paper, we reached the place few minutes later, after spotting discipline HA members on every corner monitoring every one coming in and out.

The museum was big and looked more like a military base, all bunkers and sand banks and tanks and APCs and weapons and missiles displayed.

We were welcomed by an Israeli tank demolished by the Hezbollah, some friends told me this is nothing but an old Soviet tank displayed but i dont see why they would do such a thing, since they had a Merkava tank displayed inside.

we went inside and started looking around,

The first things displayed were a Hezbollah monitoring spot and an HA fighter’s room along with other HA items.

It wasnt that interesting, so we moved on to the “Israeli” room where all weapons, helmets, clothes etc .. captured by the Hezbollah fighters were displayed.
Also was displaced the Helicopter HA hit during the last July war.

And here is the helicopter of what is left of it :

Finally i headed to the Media room, where a huge screen was put over a big hole where Merkava was buried, videos of Hezbollah’s militia being shown, Nasrallah speeches, sounds of Israeli soldiers injured or calling for help, basically a whole HA propaganda.

I stayed for a bit, then went to get the game they issued, Special Force 2, and finally headed out.

The atmosphere there is a war atmosphere, one child caught my attention when he was seeing the helmets of Israeli soldiers displayed and was cursing them saying “they deserve to die those dogs .. “

A whole culture of war is spread to all visitors, hatred towards Israel and the Americans is fed 24/7 ( no mention of Syria of course who has been “very friendly” to us by invading and destroying us for the past 30 years !!! ), you can imagine how those new generations will become few years from now. A generalized brainwashing of the Shiite population is happening and no one is lifting a finger to stop it.

Two Khaybar missiles were thanking us for our visit when we reached the exit. One could sense the next war coming, and could sense how Hezbollah is preparing his people for it, no new buildings are rising in Da7yeh, just basements, similarly in the South where many villages are being reinforced as military bases and villagers moved to different regions.

The museum was very well organized though, the people very friendly and welcoming but cautious. Hezbollah does have an amazing organizational power, however i wish we would invest it in making peace and letting the country prosper, not in bringing destruction, but after all his ideological plans differ from ours, they want to destroy Israel at any cost, we want to live in peace with everyone.

I am getting convinced one day after the other that separating Hebzollah and whomever wants to follow them from Lebanon is the best option, let them have their own state, let them fight whomever they want, just leave us in peace !

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Posted by N10452 on 08.26.07 @ 1:49 pm |

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1. Johnny.B | August 26th, 2007 at 2:00 pm

which ignorant parent would take his 4 year old child there ? what idiot came uot with this idea ?!?! these people have become so insanly addicted to killing israelis that they will one day forget how to live ! i wouldn’t dought is someday they put on the front page of their qoran a pic of a hizballah militant holding a decapitated isaeli head in his hand!

Pitty they are called Lebanese!
2. othello | August 26th, 2007 at 2:01 pm

With people like this on the face of the earth, no wonder there will never be peace in the region…

peace for HA is equivalent to suicide…they would loose their “raison d’etre” nd the 21 vestl virgins waiting for each one of them…

the sad thing is that although they are a so called resistance and did fight the Isreli occupation, they did so for the sake of other regional countries like Iran and Syria and NOT FOR LEBANON.

for me, this can never be called national resistance and might even be equivalent to TREASON, since this is the term that describes when a party works for the good of another country instead of its own country.
3. Shadow | August 26th, 2007 at 2:37 pm

If we did that who will pay their electricity bills ? who will pay their water bills ? who will pay their medicines? who will pay their bills at hospitals? Whose cars they will steal ?

They will never let us live freel because we are financing them while iran is financing their weapons and military bills .
4. paul | August 26th, 2007 at 3:17 pm

slowly however surely,Lebanon takes over stranger cultures from dictatorship countries.

thus the danger rises the return to times where all thought it would be history.
on far view. if the education of the children will not be drastically changed on a civilian live , then the future will be very dark in Lebanon.
5. fad14 | August 26th, 2007 at 4:14 pm

Israel has always targeted them and knows exactly where they are, but the problem is that the civilians support them all year round and run like chicken with the first Jets passing by and they come to the areas that has no Hizbulla in it.
6. Ra'fat | August 26th, 2007 at 4:52 pm

HA ARE lebanese whether we like it or not, although financed by Iran, they are lebanese patriots just like the lf was Lebanese during the civil war even though financed and helped by other powers. Running away from that issue will not help us reach a resolution, lebanon is too damn small to split into separate countries. The only reason people follow HA is because they provide them with money and a means to live. Lebanese people in general are loyal to whoever provides them with a better life (whether I agree with this practice or not is not the issue and does not change reality). The only way to solve the HA problem is with a better country where Shiites wouldn’t need HA for jobs, homes, education etc…We need to embrace each other as lebanese and focus on creating uniting issues or else all the lessons of war have not been learned. I hate Aoun to death, but the agreement he signed with HA as an accord between 2 people is correct, such should be the case between all political parties, where then disagreement does not evolve or come from hatred, but from a sense of making the country better. And to all those isolationists blowing their horns, newsflash, there is not enough of us to be isolated anymore. Step one is to accept this reality, and step two is to find a mechanism to deal with it, and that is tough as a lot have not gotten to step one yet….
7. paul | August 26th, 2007 at 5:33 pm

you think that HA will permit that other institutions ,or the Lebanese government to meet decisions over the future of the chi3a?
accept the reality is like you want to say love it or leave it.
8. paul | August 26th, 2007 at 5:35 pm

7… to Ra’fat
9. ghassan K | August 26th, 2007 at 8:21 pm

I think Shadow said it the best! The Lebanese people are paying their bills: electricity, water, medicine, education and roads while iran is financing their weapons and military bills.

To Ra’fat, I really doubt Hizb-Iran’s loyalty to Lebanon although I see their loyalty to Iran and Syria!
10. fad14 | August 26th, 2007 at 9:41 pm

Ra’fat, I think you FORGET that most of the militias got disbanded after the war and none of them got jobs or salaries to support them. Why should HA be treated any better ???
If they are warriors, we have the army. If they are civilians, we need a lot of jobs in all sectors. If they are useless, then let them make some suicide missions against syria to free our prisoners there.
11. Ali 1559 | August 27th, 2007 at 7:46 am

N

Was it free?
12. Johnny.B | August 27th, 2007 at 7:56 am

Ra’faat,

It takes more than a passport to make a person Lebanese !
13. Mohammad | August 27th, 2007 at 9:58 am

Ra’fat,

In order to agree on what you said, let me ask you few questions:

1- You want the country to help those people? ok, If the gov decided to build a factory in south that employes 10,000 workers. Do you garantee that such a factory will not be destroyed due to “MOGHAMARA” from Hassona?

2- PARIS 3 gave us 7 billion dollars!!!! Who is preventing the gov from receiving them???

3- The current gov was assigned in summer 2005. After 6 months, HA_AMAL ministers “3takafo” for 1 month. Then after 6 months “3emlolna 7arb tammouz” then after 6 month “they resigned” DO YOU SEE HOW THEY ARE HELPING THE GOV?

To cut it short, those people do NOT want Lebanon as a country! They want their own country with their rules.
14. Abou Hatab | August 27th, 2007 at 7:53 pm

No Mr. Ali! Nothing is for free!
It cost more than 1200 civilians and billions of $ to our economy!
15. mikel | August 28th, 2007 at 2:06 am

“Lebanon is too small to be divided”
typical FPMer Ra’fat

no one making speeches here

And I think muhammad answered you on everything else.
16. Ali 1559 | August 28th, 2007 at 4:18 am

Abu hatab

ma al 3taB 3lek ya abu hataB , al 3tab 3la USA (7alifak ) li tarak israel thabet baladak ! La aktar wla 2a2l !
17. Ra'fat | August 28th, 2007 at 5:01 am

First, please don’t insult me by calling me a FPM’r, all the issues that have been raised are pretty much on the money, I cant say I disagree with anyone, my only qualm is that telling them to go to hell wont get us anywhere, we need to reach an understanding. As for the dividing of Lebanon, if we were as much of a majority as we were before the civil war, then yes I would have been all for it, but given the weakened state of the Christians, I don’t think we would get a fair slice of the pie, and for real, we have been able to control nothing in the past twenty years, what makes you guys think we could get what we want on our own? As I see it, we are caught between a rock and a hard place. I think the difference between my belief and yours is that separate HA leadership from the common HA follower where I feel the leadership is my enemy, but not the people. I still feel that no matter who you are, you are gonna be loyal to the side that offers you ….
1- No one was bigger than the lf during the civil war, but we still gave up our weapons. What HA wants to prevent is such a climate where all sides force them to lay their weapons (like the climate in 1990), and that is our job to accomplish (reply to #7) A country will never move forward without getting rid of all the militias. First you dismantle the military arm, then you weaken the financing arm.
2-Again, HA leadership does not want a government, not the shiite people. Everything Muhammad said is correct, I was meerly proposing a means to approach the problem, as I do not know the solution, but I know that us killing and cursing each other never got us anywhere, but you know what, this generation is free to try that again….
2-
18. Delta | August 28th, 2007 at 10:19 am

garbage
19. Ali 1559 | August 28th, 2007 at 9:10 pm

I want to thank RA’FAT on his open minded commentary . His comment is a perfect example for you to learn from . No doubt , Ra’fat is LF-er and from this point up , I would like to raise a simple question:
How can we get the rest of the ouwet community to think the way RA’FAT does?
20. N10452 | August 28th, 2007 at 9:44 pm

Ra’fat,

I thank you for ur reply, but i must say we should learn to accept things as they are and stop lying to ourselves.

HA supporters are Lebanese, of course, but Hezbollah is not working for lebanon, it doesnt give a damn about this country and whomever is following him is as responsible as Nasrallah and the HA leadership.
And they have a lot to learn about patriotism.

No one was financing us nor helping us politically as LFers.

You tell me we should provide the Shiite people with money and means to live ??
I tell you WHATEVER !!

Their ministers and MPS have been STEALING millions of dollars for years, if they wished to help their people they would have but a part of the HA strategy is to keep the people poor in order to control them better, to satisfy them with small amounts of money and living conditions and exploiting their misery to gain political points…

Moussa el Sadr was the only one who wanted to integrate the Shiite society into the Lebanese one and improve their conditions.

HA just wants to build his islamic state and keep the people poor and ignorant to control them better.