I can’t judge whether Aoun did a mistake or not by signing an accord with HA, only time will tell!! Speculations are too many and it’s only speculations.

However as christians, I think the old law does not guarantee us correct representation and that’s a Hariri plan all along! “aslem el ared bi aslem el cha3eb” he said it!!! that’s why beirut is sold to khalijiyi etc…

Lahoud is dirt, I agree. We need to get rid of him…But getting rid of him and getting another man, voted to office by the people that came to power through a syrian law is still wrong!!!
You gotta uproot the problem from as deep as it goes.

Change the law, elect new representative, elect the new president and the trash in b3abda will go away!!!

All it takes is a month!!! 250 million people in the US elect their president in a single day. I think we can manage it in a month!!

In addition, I agree with you 100% when you say that the LF are not free to make decisions and they’re tied to Hariri. So the majority of christians in 14 March are not free to decide…Do we want a president that Hariri/Jumblat decide on?

i cant believe how strong r the fpmers r in washing brains…even the brains of free thinkers

I hope you will become a frequent reader and see how no one is spared from critics here

Back to ur questions, i do not believe it was the US who pressured parties to get into elections, i hope no HA hears you
Everyone wanted elections and agreed on this law including Aounists and LFers .. i did not agree honestly and boycotted the elections and critisized harshly this decision.

There was no big lie about elections being for one year, let me remind you we had the july war next year.

Now concerning the president, i must disagree totally here, Hariri & Berri and all 14th of march leaders are supporting Bkerke’s decision and i believe The patriarch is better represented than Aoun in the Christian community…

And why are you telling me the president is gonna be elected by those who dont represent their people ???

Those were democratic elections and you cannot claim that .

I refuse having early elections before getting rid of the syrian filth in Baabda, it is our demand since 2 years and 14th of march has the right to ask for it before anything else and it is a high priority in my opinion for several reasons:

1- The president is blocking all decisions taken to change the syrian collaborators still in charge in the ISF and army.

2- The president is protecting criminals and defending them.

3- The president is weakening his post everyday and causing a major damage to the presidency.

and many other reasons…

The HA-FPM understanding was pure bull shit to be honest, and the damage Aoun did to himself by signing it is unrepairable, he was the ultimate candidate for presidency with external support, now no one wants to hear of him.

I believe FPM has righteous demands but are following a megaloman who only wants presidency leaving them no credibility whatsoever .. as for the LF, they r too weak to make any difference yet ..

It is indeed shameful to see those whom i demonstrated rally with Hezbollah and Frangieh and other syrian filth, but it is also shameful to see the LF so weak and incapable and also following Jumblatt-Hariri instead of taking initiatives like it always did .

Concerning elections and all. I think if you put yourself in the oppositions shoes, you’ll find some logic in what they ask for.
The current people in parliament don’t represent the lebanese correctly and you agree because the law that the elections went under was detailed by syrians to oppress majorities! However having said that, you have to remember that all political parties were pressured by the US to have the elections on time and therefore it was either “play or stay on the side” and the oppoisition back then was mostly christian since HA was part of the “ta7elok el rouba3i” so the Aouniyyi had no choice but to play (you can’t disagree that they have a large number of supporters especially among christians). Back at the time, the big lie was to make an election for 1 year (temporary), fix the election law and have another election the next year!
Anyway, now the past is behind and we find ourselves infront of a situation: the president, the highest christian position is about to be elected by representative who don’t represent their people! How is this democratic and would any other people in other country allow it?!!? Lahoud is an asshole, but we don’t want another asshole, what we need is a strong presented that the true majority wants, even it’s the devil. Isn’t this democracy?!?
How hard was it, for the current governement to setup new elections and elect the proper people (to give you an idea, the only elections I watched was in the North, I’m from Akkar). In Batroun, the Orange candidate had 40,000 votes compared to 25,000 more or less for the LF, this is in Batroun only, when results from tripoli came, he lost. Why should the muslims in tripoli defy the democratic right of christians in Batroun or any other part in lebanon.
Anyway, it wasn’t hard. But the fact the current ruling staff was absolutely positive that General Aoun would win the majority in the elections (after winning totality in christian areas) and presidency stopped them.
I don’t care who the guy is (like I said could be the devil) if the true majority wants him, he should be president.

And the famous treaty with HA. Let me comment for other posters who question that. In my opinion, it was a move to guarantee christians in lebanon that a fight with HA would never threaten them which is what they were afraid of, and to guarantee HA that the christians are not out to get them and to settle fears of possible civil wars. But the Hariri and Jumblat clan (who in my opinion are the worst mother fuckers who ever came to power) decided to let their sheep think of it in other ways (he’s backing syria and all that crap). This is shamefull, to your brothers in “Orange” who were oppressed like you were, who were put in jails like you were and who were shot with water hoses like you were.

First of all to make it clear, I do not think at all what Geagea thinks and i critisize him on several occasions, and this ’sheep’ phenomenem is spread on all parties in Lebanon, however The Oranges excel at it, unlike LFers where you find people critisizing Hakim decisions or even his leadership.

I agree with you 100% and i wish everyone had the guts to critisize their leaders instead of defending them blindly, and to make things clear, i am an LFer by thought, but i do not belong to the LF political party and do not wish to join the current party since i am opposed to many of its policies, responsibles and structure.

In summary, i am a Free LFer.

Now to answer ur questions:
1. I never said that the government should ask HA first, but while the camps are surrounded by army men, HA is spread everywhere and is providing a cover for lots of parties either intentionally or unintentionally.
Let him disarm and reinforce the army so we can start controlling the Palestinians better.

2. The government undermined the group and it is a mistake, however let me remind you that this government is the prime target of this group and the infiltration within the security forces is a very serious issue ( cause Lahoud is refusing to sign the new appointments), and you cannot really put the whole blame on them ..
The Lebanese Army has been weakened for more than 20 years now and the ISF forces are corrupted, do not expect miracles.

On their way to Tripoli, engines of two army M113 broke down and they had to pull over, this is how weak the army still is.

However, i already warned in several posts about allowing such fanatic groups to spread even politically ( 7ezb el taw7eed) and i hope the government will take more severe measures this time.

Finally, Aoun is insulting the people’s intelligence and exploiting such situations to score points and in a very hypocrite way.

He is not credible to talk this way, its not a matter of lying or not.

Finally,
LF refuses new elections ? I dont think they refuse it, and the last elections were unfair, BUT there is a priority nowadays which is electing a new president, we need to continnue what we started with the Cedars Revolution and clean the Syrian filth before asking for such demands.

FPM have no right to ask for new elections since they approved the Ghazi Kanaan law and voted, let them act democratically and respect the majority’s legimitacy and wait till next elections, this is what happens in all democratic countries.

Changing Lahoud is a priority in my opinion and after that, i welcome any elections and am sure the LF does.

We have achieved so many things so far, we have the whole world backing our government from all sides and financing our army and helping us get rid of criminals and establishing the international tribunal.

It would be suicidal to go for elections and who knows end up in chaos if problems erupt ..

Hope i answered your questions.

Regards,

To SMS: I think not belonging to a political party makes me More objective than you, even if not completely objective like you say.
Let me tell you something: To show you that you’re not objective at all, 30 years ago you would’ve shot a Durzi where he stands, now your leader hails Jumblat (the christian slayer) in Harisa during a mass for lebanese forces men killed by his hands.
Who knows my friend, one day, you might be hailing Aoun if your leader does it. In arabic we say “7faz khat el raj3a”.

To Fad14: If you can’t be mature enough about your comment like the rest of us, I think you’re only emabrassing yourself by posting.

Long live lebanon

- No Syrian was allowed to enter East Beirut before the ilgha war.
- He detroyed the christians and weakened them.
- He allowed the syrians to enter Lebanon after his Ilgha war. here let me explain:
. he did Liberation war (which noone would ever do at that time) and he failed so the Syrians asked him to iliminate the Lebanese forces and then he would be elected as a president… but sure the syrians made fun of him and entered the christians area…
- he and his party insulted our Cardinal. I think you remember very well what those blind Aouniyyeh did… i cant imagine they did it!!!
- He was agaisnt Hizballah weapons and now he is protecting them!!!
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- He is repeating the same mistakes he did before. Oh god , he doesnt learn from his own mistakes…

Well i dont blame him because for me he is crazy. I only blame those who follow him.

One additional comment “His father was in Deir El salib” so you can have a clear idea of whom you are following…. This is a fact and not a joke…