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	<title>Comments on: Remembering Elie Hobeika ..</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: crusader</title>
		<link>http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/editorials/remembering-elie-hobeika/#comment-208485</link>
		<dc:creator>crusader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>men
i have a question to ask???
in october 13 who helped the syrian army with bombarding some CHRISTIAN territoty?? who believed in taef ,
YA 3AME MAHADA BISHOUF KAM SHAB FAL MIN LEBNEN BA3ED L TAEF, ma l hakim al mne2bal fi w iza ma meche min ghayro, soo kenit l natije sar howe bil habess w nehna hejarna , men wehyetkoun fekro shwey keloun i mean keloun( geagea aoun elie keloun) kheryit kaleb w makssoume . rah trouh 3alayna nehna l massihiye bass .
salo 
ana moukatel min loubnan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>men<br />
i have a question to ask???<br />
in october 13 who helped the syrian army with bombarding some CHRISTIAN territoty?? who believed in taef ,<br />
YA 3AME MAHADA BISHOUF KAM SHAB FAL MIN LEBNEN BA3ED L TAEF, ma l hakim al mne2bal fi w iza ma meche min ghayro, soo kenit l natije sar howe bil habess w nehna hejarna , men wehyetkoun fekro shwey keloun i mean keloun( geagea aoun elie keloun) kheryit kaleb w makssoume . rah trouh 3alayna nehna l massihiye bass .<br />
salo<br />
ana moukatel min loubnan</p>
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		<title>By: crusader</title>
		<link>http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/editorials/remembering-elie-hobeika/#comment-208482</link>
		<dc:creator>crusader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>walla i hope ur doctor knows what he s doing , read the lebanese war carefully u ll know who s the real enemy 4 the christian people and tell me if ur leader is on the good way , WAKE UP MEN keloun kezzebinne ,one day the blood of the christians martyrs will call for justice, asking AOUN GEAGEA HOBEIKA EVEN AMINE for what they did, one day so wake up .
    ana moukatil min loubnan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>walla i hope ur doctor knows what he s doing , read the lebanese war carefully u ll know who s the real enemy 4 the christian people and tell me if ur leader is on the good way , WAKE UP MEN keloun kezzebinne ,one day the blood of the christians martyrs will call for justice, asking AOUN GEAGEA HOBEIKA EVEN AMINE for what they did, one day so wake up .<br />
    ana moukatil min loubnan.</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lebanese,you can call him a war criminal only if he was the  exception.

Tareq,i also want to thank you I see that our opinions are not very far from each other . I can understand you very well and maybe that´s  why i am on this blog .anyway I will  always   defend HK  despite his faultsBecause it is not about him but about the comrads who standing him  close, I think nothing is easier than to stand on the side of the winners and i dont mean you with it .And you have said the correct words"there is a higher justice to decide".And this means for me he will eventually meet his opponents :-)

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lebanese,you can call him a war criminal only if he was the  exception.</p>
<p>Tareq,i also want to thank you I see that our opinions are not very far from each other . I can understand you very well and maybe that´s  why i am on this blog .anyway I will  always   defend HK  despite his faultsBecause it is not about him but about the comrads who standing him  close, I think nothing is easier than to stand on the side of the winners and i dont mean you with it .And you have said the correct words&#8221;there is a higher justice to decide&#8221;.And this means for me he will eventually meet his opponents <img src='http://www.ouwet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: Lebanese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lebanese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 04:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This low life is nothing more than a war criminal and a double agent for Syria and Israel who tarnished the face of Lebanon forever with the massacres of Sabra and Chatilla in 1982.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This low life is nothing more than a war criminal and a double agent for Syria and Israel who tarnished the face of Lebanon forever with the massacres of Sabra and Chatilla in 1982.</p>
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		<title>By: Tareq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tareq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul thank you for the good reply...I want to clarify some things...First I don't want to say HK killed BG or no because I don't know but I say it is a strong rumor since 1985 when HK change side to Syria and SSNP...We say that Syria killed BG and HK was friend of Syria so he is suspect...that what I hate about HK the most is he change side to Syria...I agree with you some things he say and do because there was deep hate with DSG etc...

I understand your point of view better now and I agree with you on many things but one thing I think different is it is OK to insult any leader because they are in public affair and they affect our life they cause death and emmigration etc...If you have proof people believe you and if you don't have proof people don't believe...With HK it is 100% sure he attack Achrafieh with help of Syria so I attack him because he did it and same for Aoun...BUT it is more important for me to understand a brother in our resistance so I respect your feeling and I say he is now dead there is a higher justice to decide.

Take care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul thank you for the good reply&#8230;I want to clarify some things&#8230;First I don&#8217;t want to say HK killed BG or no because I don&#8217;t know but I say it is a strong rumor since 1985 when HK change side to Syria and SSNP&#8230;We say that Syria killed BG and HK was friend of Syria so he is suspect&#8230;that what I hate about HK the most is he change side to Syria&#8230;I agree with you some things he say and do because there was deep hate with DSG etc&#8230;</p>
<p>I understand your point of view better now and I agree with you on many things but one thing I think different is it is OK to insult any leader because they are in public affair and they affect our life they cause death and emmigration etc&#8230;If you have proof people believe you and if you don&#8217;t have proof people don&#8217;t believe&#8230;With HK it is 100% sure he attack Achrafieh with help of Syria so I attack him because he did it and same for Aoun&#8230;BUT it is more important for me to understand a brother in our resistance so I respect your feeling and I say he is now dead there is a higher justice to decide.</p>
<p>Take care.</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tareq,

To say that he fail to protect BG is not fair because you don´t know how many attacks  were thwarted  ,the protection of bg was not the task of HK he has his own bodyguards and they was from him personally selected,and that HK kill BG! sorry but this is absurd.

What he said about kataeb etc.I do not believe that he  mean it  seriously   he wanted to win the trust  of syria then they have never trusted him.

I don´t comparisons nahr el bared and S+C

I just wanted to say that the hate  was too deep And thus he killed  many others "and himself".

Tareq,i have no problem if someone attack HK this is very normal,but to insult him is not ok.
He was  once a leader of the  LF and because nobody is 100% sure what is true and not true, we should withhold our prejudices.

And, as I see you have understood me.

cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tareq,</p>
<p>To say that he fail to protect BG is not fair because you don´t know how many attacks  were thwarted  ,the protection of bg was not the task of HK he has his own bodyguards and they was from him personally selected,and that HK kill BG! sorry but this is absurd.</p>
<p>What he said about kataeb etc.I do not believe that he  mean it  seriously   he wanted to win the trust  of syria then they have never trusted him.</p>
<p>I don´t comparisons nahr el bared and S+C</p>
<p>I just wanted to say that the hate  was too deep And thus he killed  many others &#8220;and himself&#8221;.</p>
<p>Tareq,i have no problem if someone attack HK this is very normal,but to insult him is not ok.<br />
He was  once a leader of the  LF and because nobody is 100% sure what is true and not true, we should withhold our prejudices.</p>
<p>And, as I see you have understood me.</p>
<p>cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Bachir 7ay Fina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bachir 7ay Fina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>paul
jit 3ala zahlé enta chi lama ken el HK fiya???
la halla2 kell ahel zahlé bi da3oulo bi abro lal HK.
sara2 e déné kella 
bass elie hbeika ken ma3rouf zaké w yestebi2 kel el 2echya, w houwé awal min 2alo lal batrak mchi hal 20 séné ma3 souria li ano heik w heik badoun yed3aso li ma byemché ma3oun w mazbout heik sar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paul<br />
jit 3ala zahlé enta chi lama ken el HK fiya???<br />
la halla2 kell ahel zahlé bi da3oulo bi abro lal HK.<br />
sara2 e déné kella<br />
bass elie hbeika ken ma3rouf zaké w yestebi2 kel el 2echya, w houwé awal min 2alo lal batrak mchi hal 20 séné ma3 souria li ano heik w heik badoun yed3aso li ma byemché ma3oun w mazbout heik sar</p>
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		<title>By: Tareq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tareq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul thank you my friend for the time to write this info I appreciate it lot...I agree with you "Ma 7ada byirja3 3a beito iza natro msabbeh" I want to all go back to the same house...Please let me answer some what you say with my point of view you can agree or not but this is my opinion with respect:

1-I agree HK like other LF officer/soldiers took the weapon to defend the Christians and he many people say he was very good in the moukhabarat operations...No problem with him on it.

2-Problems with HK is what he did after 1982...First he fail to defend Shaikh Bashir from assassination in heart of Achrafieh...Many rumors until today say that HK helped the SSNP to kill Bashir...maybe it is true maybe it is not but he fail to protect Bash.

3-After he fail with the Agreement in 1986 he did not leave to France or to Cyprus he went to Syrian areas and he attack Achrafieh with their help...This operation killed many people in Achrafieh I was going home from university and the battle was hard.

4-He make many speeches after 1986 attacking the Kataeb and make fun of the 3aqidah Kata2ibiya on TV and he become the best friend of SSNP.

5-Sabra and Chatila was massacre of civilian after the PLO military people leave with Arafat there wasn't resistance so it is different from Nahr Bared in my opinion.

The first Problem with HK is he did not stay on the same mission like Bashir wanted...DSG make many mistakes and many assassinations like HK but he stay on the course and if Aoun did not destroy us in the 2 wars LF will not agree on Taef like the 1986 agreement.

From my side Paul when I attack HK I don't attack you and other LF people who work with him to protect us...He is a leader who made the wrong choice and I attack him for what he did since Bashir was killed.

I think the history is not all black or all white there is some good and there is some bad so we can only say what is more and for me HK has many more black so that is the problem for me.

Take care bro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul thank you my friend for the time to write this info I appreciate it lot&#8230;I agree with you &#8220;Ma 7ada byirja3 3a beito iza natro msabbeh&#8221; I want to all go back to the same house&#8230;Please let me answer some what you say with my point of view you can agree or not but this is my opinion with respect:</p>
<p>1-I agree HK like other LF officer/soldiers took the weapon to defend the Christians and he many people say he was very good in the moukhabarat operations&#8230;No problem with him on it.</p>
<p>2-Problems with HK is what he did after 1982&#8230;First he fail to defend Shaikh Bashir from assassination in heart of Achrafieh&#8230;Many rumors until today say that HK helped the SSNP to kill Bashir&#8230;maybe it is true maybe it is not but he fail to protect Bash.</p>
<p>3-After he fail with the Agreement in 1986 he did not leave to France or to Cyprus he went to Syrian areas and he attack Achrafieh with their help&#8230;This operation killed many people in Achrafieh I was going home from university and the battle was hard.</p>
<p>4-He make many speeches after 1986 attacking the Kataeb and make fun of the 3aqidah Kata2ibiya on TV and he become the best friend of SSNP.</p>
<p>5-Sabra and Chatila was massacre of civilian after the PLO military people leave with Arafat there wasn&#8217;t resistance so it is different from Nahr Bared in my opinion.</p>
<p>The first Problem with HK is he did not stay on the same mission like Bashir wanted&#8230;DSG make many mistakes and many assassinations like HK but he stay on the course and if Aoun did not destroy us in the 2 wars LF will not agree on Taef like the 1986 agreement.</p>
<p>From my side Paul when I attack HK I don&#8217;t attack you and other LF people who work with him to protect us&#8230;He is a leader who made the wrong choice and I attack him for what he did since Bashir was killed.</p>
<p>I think the history is not all black or all white there is some good and there is some bad so we can only say what is more and for me HK has many more black so that is the problem for me.</p>
<p>Take care bro.</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hanoun,can you give us some names from the deads?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hanoun,can you give us some names from the deads?</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Delta comment nr. 5 heida ismo rad jmil.</description>
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