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L’esprit doit etre tres pur, tres propre, tres fort, et tres droit

Posted by N10452

“Je compte sur vous tous, l’esprit doit etre tres pur, tres propre, tres fort, et tres droit.
On continue…” B.G ( Aout 1982)

I never truly understood this quote until i started dealing with corrupted and filthy politicians, either within the LF or outside.
Since then, i made a commitment to myself to never be afraid from the truth, to say it as it is and as i see it …

Every single post i write, i write it out of conviction and without any censorships ( except very few and minor cases).

I believe in the LF principles, i support them and defend them ..
I support the M14 line.

However, that does not imply that i should defend the politicians or leaders behind those two lines.
I have critisized constructively Hakim & the LF, M14 and all its leaders more than Aounists have done for the past 20 years or more .. and i am not ashamed to admit LF mistakes .. Accountability is a must and i strongly believe it, but to have a hard-core Aounist or Hezbollah or any Syrian scumbag come teach me lessons in patriotism or in honesty .. eh facharto !

You are not eligible to even discuss such issues with an institution that gave away thousands of martyrs for LEBANON !

So to start with Ali 1559 wa ghayro, You stop the propraganda and you stop falsifying history.
When i speak about Aoun, answer me by defending Aoun, not attacking the LF ..

why dont you give us a quick lesson on what you and your LF party were doing on the 14th of march 1989?

What was the LF doing ?? Who put the whole LF Operations room at Aoun’s service ?? Who sent units dressed in army uniforms to assist Aoun in his stupid and idiotic war ??

One question for you:
Why didnt Aoun tell the LF he was starting a liberation war ?? why didnt he coordinate his actions with it ??
The LF was responsible for the safety of 60% of the Christian regions !!
Why should it commit suicide and lose all its troops because someone got rejected by the Syrians and wanted to take his vengeance ??

Meen ken 3am bikhayyil el tor2at ben Syria wou Lebnen ??? Meen ken “AL Dabit al sagheer” fi jaysh el Assad ??

“Old lfers were very honest”

Old timers never speak a word, they hide everything they know and i blame them for not pointing out where the LF went wrong in the past to the new generations .. i blame them big time !

I am not defending March 14 nor the LF here, i am not representing them … i am stating facts that occured at a certain time in our history, facts no one can deny .. except a brainwashed irange supporter, because his mind is locked to the tapes he was taught ..

Filed under: Editorials, Lebanon, Political
Posted by N10452 on 03.16.08 @ 11:31 pm |

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26 Comments. Add your own...

1. PK | March 17th, 2008 at 2:10 am

You’re sick
2. Anonymous | March 17th, 2008 at 4:05 am

N10452…. Get a life dude. Snap out of it already !!!!
3. kezballah | March 17th, 2008 at 4:10 am

PK, fa7asto?

At least tell him what disease he has and give him a prescription. I think his disease is free thinking, all he needs is Aspirin for the headache but otherwise he is fine
4. Hanoun | March 17th, 2008 at 4:56 am

They cant handle the truth and they reply blindly and call us zou3ran, I have one questions to the Aouniest, are we the same Zou3ran that Aoun called to help and support his Army 8th brigade when they were getting their ass kicked in SOUK EL GHARB?
5. roch | March 17th, 2008 at 5:25 am

LF was a militia, dont expect a militia to act as a professional army.
Now LF is proving itself to be a good political party, always saying clearly what are its politics.

the problem is with Aoun taking the lebanese army into his own militia… He is just a General in the army, not the owner. Only the lebanese people own the lebanese army. So pls stop telling us LF attacked the lebanese army… LF only fought against Aoun and his political distorted ways. Aoun used the lebanese army to attack an allied militia and take its place!
6. len | March 17th, 2008 at 6:08 am

I have to admit that the tension is really high here . The members on this blog(N10452, Tarek, Ali1559 , rodge, Kezballah,Arze ect..) are a tough challenge for each others. I cant see a winner out of this, same position apply in real life. No winner out of this , we’re all losing .

We as Lfers are using logic on this forum and this is a good point. But , Ali-ARZE and Co are still scoring point in our net. Do you know why? Bcoz its our fault for ansewring them im a radical way. Lets put religion on the side and show these aounist their value.

One last advise to ali& arze : Rou7o nteko 3la al orange room tab3kon , walla bi7ibukon honik , honik 3indkon za2ife ktar yalla jarbo balke bitssiro mitel abu FIJLE?

PS : Ali , Go to hell boy, We are here to stay, we are not scared of your ass! Wanna bring it on ?? Let me know …
7. Michele | March 17th, 2008 at 8:10 am

N, the reason why i like to read this blog is because of its objectivity and u do a great job in it!!!
U say freely what u think and don’t censor any comment that criticizes u.

As for Ali and his gang, don’t waste ur time; Ali has already proven to all of us the level of his ignorance and stupidity.

U say Aoun; he says Geagea!
U say Nasrallah, he says Saad!
He doesn’t even have an opinion on anything except what he has been told.

And when he feels cornered, mainly by MOI (have a feeling that he has been abused and molested when he was a kid), starts attacking vulgarily without making any sense.

I do pity him sometime but there are 2 things that i can’t tolerate which are: stupidity and vulgarity!

And funnily GMA and Ali are masters in these 2 things! ” Ceux qui se ressemblent, s’assemblent!”
8. Silvana | March 17th, 2008 at 11:38 am

LOL Michelle, I have been following your exchanges with Ali, and I agree that the way he responds to you is vulgar and ignorant. I guess you being female, he thinks he can shut you up that way.

As for this post, Ali and co do not have a clue; They all respond exactly the same way when you criticize Aoun by saying “Leish Geagea A7san?”!!!… In entering any discussion with them, you have to allow for the ‘barf factor’.
9. Tarek | March 17th, 2008 at 12:07 pm

Leave them walking blindly in the darkness.
10. Rodge | March 17th, 2008 at 12:24 pm

N10452,

I totally agree with you and praise your work here, even though sometimes we don’t agree, and it’s natural and healthy.

I agree with Michele also in saying that the reason we like to read this blog is because of its objectivity, and i will add that it is the same reason we do participate to the discussion.

now about Ali1559, I’m among the people who have been into discusssions with him on many subjects, and I join you, Michele and Sylvana in your diagnosis for his state, since he always attack without defending, and he attacks without any logic.

But what i don’t agree is to write a special posting only for Ali, now he will start to think he’s important, also i don’t think he will change “felij la t3elij” cause he’s a hopeless case.
11. A5watz | March 17th, 2008 at 12:29 pm

euffff… sar3a eh.. 3a wa2ta btzakar ken fi 90% mnel massi7ieh ma3o la 3on.. thats gott to count 4 smthen.. tenne chi ja3ja3 nassa2 ma3 el soorye 3a wa2to worst tim ever 4 the lf.
12. Michele | March 17th, 2008 at 12:52 pm

Hé hé hé Silvana!!!!
But can u blame Ali knowing the environment he has been brought up in where women have no saying at all!!!!

Furthermore, he tends to thinks that all girls are like his sisters into Star Academy and Ya leyl ya Ain!!! Well flash news cowboy, believe it or not these days women have their saying in the society and are no longer considered a 2nd class citizen anymore.

I know it must be hard for you to understand that being so *********.

This is why i really pity u ya Ali!
13. Mar Yuhanna Maroun | March 17th, 2008 at 7:50 pm

LF was and still the sole representative of the Christians.
It’s easy that Aoun take the people who never had nothing to do with the war! specially deffending christian identity.
14. Tayyar | March 18th, 2008 at 12:36 am

Ouwet

You destroyd our homes , obliterated our towns and village and expelled our people . This is how blind you and your leaders were . And then when time came to fight for lebanon , you just FLED away to syria and Israel. Samir went to syria on basel’s death while Elie hbayka was sending his dogs back to Israel. Ironiccc..

You are still as blind as your brutal despite the passage of 20 yrs .

You are nothing but a divided party working on the divison of lebanon and its citizen.

Ali,Arze,Wassim and the rest of the Fpmers dont have to answer your questions. What kind of questions are you asking anyway? Nonsense questions built on a criminal past? Also , why dont you answer Ali’s questions on how to deal with your own failure before jumping into conclusions? Why dont you answer Arze for once? Bcoz you cant and this is why you run away from them using personal insult . Why you always run away from the truth ?
15. Tayyar | March 18th, 2008 at 12:42 am

Ouwet ,

Per ALi : In your name, Israel in the summer of 2006 dropped millions of cluster bombs all over south Lebanon destroying the whole entire part of this county. And still your misguided leader was praising Israel and America for approaching the Lebanese coast, last week. Is this AYA LUBNAN NURID?

WHY DONT YOU ANSWER THIS N10452 ??????????????????????? You just cant!!

Where are you from your principles Lfers?

One last advise to our FPMERS in here , lets stop posting here. This blog doesnt need people like you. It needs its ppl . The gangsters and the hustlers.
16. Ali1559 | March 18th, 2008 at 8:04 am

N10452

Eh ta3 ta3 ..

One of the major deterrents to controlling your own attitude is the power of ”group thinking” or party thinking, which surfaces when everyone in that party shares the same political opinion. WHO THE HELL you think you are to critisize 7akim , the valentinos and Aoun? Individual like you can lose their desire and ABILITY to think for themselves as they strive to be accepted by a group !!! You are not the official website for the lebanese forces and you dont represent them (per them). I just dont get it dude, you always talk to talk. Talk is cheap , You remind me of Barak obama every time I read your post ! Its about time for you to realize that. Eventough, I admit that you are a smart guy.

Ya sadiki, in politics , we are constantly placed in new situations with people from different backround and beleifs. Look at your recent alliance,MOU? Some things are beyond our control, but we do have the power to shape it in a good way as long as we know where we’re going . Do you know where are you going with your new alliance? I doubt it and this is exactly why you keep on attacking GMA on your daily basis. You are afraid of the future ya sa7be and us as fpmers are so use to you guys blaming everything on GMA. The more thoroughly you open your mind to reality while learning form your PAST experience , the more freedom you have….

Now back to your old questions, GMA was the army chief and didnt have to tell you guys anything. Why? So you guys go and tell syria on him (3la kell 7al this is what you guys did when the clashes began). YA the Lf was in charge of the MANTA2 AL CHARI2YEH , but BY FORCE ONLY , jawa3to al 3lam w sara2to mela (10-20% tax ) and this is why GMA became so famous among you. rou7777 you cant deny it. Anyway , you troops stood behind the syrian army right after the first bullet was fired. Li ken 3m bikhayil houwe ELIE HBAYKA W KARIM BAKRADOUNEH. Al dabet al zaghir fought against his own army (mabsut) , ba3den samir geagea akbar kheyin , ra7 3za bi basel al assad , tfehhhhhhhhh.

Old timers are silent for your good ya sa7be. Khliya bil aleb btijra7 wla totla3 3la al lssen w todfa7.

I rest my case , have a good day , im out …
17. Ali1559 | March 18th, 2008 at 8:08 am

Michelle

OUR attitudes is influenced by the culture that surrounds us . Culture is the sumtotal of knowledge,beliefs, values. Ta3lamet minik kiff kun bala akhle2 w bala adam. Kam mara mara2tilik abel w 2iltilk bala ja3dane ? hala2 you pissed off?

Ba3den shame on you , ana ma jibet siret ahlek . ana ma ra7 sibik as you did bas ra7 2ilik : ALLAH YIHDIKE , yalla ma issmik 2ila binet day3 ..
18. Ali1559 | March 18th, 2008 at 8:12 am

Len

MA THADID A7SSANLAK YA SA7BE. abalak ktar hadadoune w ma toli3 min amroun chi… yalla rou7 ndab wle mret. Arze tej rassak ya kaleb, bit2ila rou7e nteke ? Tfehhh 3leyk. Eh I wanna bring it on ya ayr# inta yalla ta3 3la amerca jibne looooool , 3la kell 7al , now you know where I wrok. Im waiting on you.
19. Ali1559 | March 18th, 2008 at 8:15 am

Rodge

walla wassim was right when he called you GHASHIM, cuz you really are. I am a hopeless case ya rodge??? Is this why your whole fucking blog is trying to get info out of me? Is this why im being under TEHDID MIN DELTA W GHAYRO W GHAYRO…?
20. Maher | March 18th, 2008 at 8:16 am

Len ana feja2itne bi hal post, kiff ballash w keef kholiss. really funny!
21. Michele | March 18th, 2008 at 9:47 am

Well Ali u said it:

“OUR attitudes is influenced by the culture that surrounds us . Culture is the sumtotal of knowledge,beliefs, values”

This is why i don’t totally blame u but i blame the environment u’ve been brought up and lived in…

I rest my case!
22. Silvana | March 18th, 2008 at 10:48 am

This is way offtopic but is Arze officially a female now? Congratulations… Even Ali referred to her as a she loooool.

I think ya Rodge, N mentioned Ali specifically because all the Aounists sound the same; When you read their posts, you cannot recognize one from the other so I guess he represents them all.

I visit this website daily ya N, and the main reason is the diverse and mainly objective opinions held by LFERS themselves, and their readiness to discuss someone else’s differing point of view. It is refreshing to see and read. Ali and Co know this otherwise they would not be allowed to post here as in the case of their websites banning anyone that disagrees with them. I also love Lebanonjon’s posts, absolutely awesome.
23. Rodge | March 18th, 2008 at 12:08 pm

Silvana,

Well I think u’re right, cause they are all the same, a perfect clowned copy of their so called leader and the deputies around him.
24. Mickel | March 19th, 2008 at 12:54 am

Tayyar

You started wars, turned brothers against each other, killed tons of civilians, caused destruction to the Christian area, rolled the red carpet for the Syrians in your “Liberation War”, inwhich you wouldn’t have lasted a minute if it wasn’t for the LF.

And when defeat was iminent your general ran away in pjs leaving thousands of soldiers not to mention his wife and children behind.

You are nothing but a bunch miserable people who are with the FPM only because you hate DSG not because you like GMA.

You pretend that you’re the saviors for Lebanon, eventhough you’re the butler of the group destroying Lebanon.

Go back to your orange cult and spare us the meaningless generic questions.
25. Rodge | March 19th, 2008 at 10:31 am

Ali ya Ali,

Walla when i say u’re a hopeless case you came and prove it urself. So now u’re considering wassim as a reference to decide who’s clever and who’s not?? the same wassim u’re proud of (and i really don’t find any reason to be) said in one of his replies to the last posting up there, the following:

فاز طلاب التيار الوطني الحرّ في انتخابات الهيئة الطلابية في كلية الهندسة للجامعة اللبنانية الفرع الثاني، وقد حصد التيار 10 مقاعد من اصل العشرين مقعدا وفاز التيار برئاسة الهيئة الطلابية، تجدر الإشارة انّ التيار
فاز بأربعة مقاعد السنة الماضية

For God’s sake someone tells me how anyone can be considered as winner when having an equal share?? 10 seats for the Tayyar in the elections, mean the other 10 seats (10 = 10 as i’ve learned in life), so if ur judging is based on wassim, it gives us a good idea about the level of both of you. Bravo Allah yhannik bi wassim w yhanni wassim fik

I told you that you were better before.
26. Rodge | March 19th, 2008 at 10:37 am

Tayyar,

If you think that you came for help and to assist ur brothers Ali, wassim, Arze and the rest, well i have to tell you boy that you achieved nothing. On the contrary, you hurt ur case even better, since you proved once more that all you can do is attack and accuse without any sane thinking.

For you I say, better not to write here a second time, for ur sake, because you will not have any success in the discussion, or maybe you should start to think of improving ur writings and opinions and begin to put some logic inside