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• 1. Nabil | November 13th, 2007 at 11:26 am

  Hey brave LFers, why dont u start new war against syria like GMA ?

• 2. oslo-man | November 13th, 2007 at 11:53 am

  Nabil,

  you as all aounists don’t have any strategy to resist in front of any problem coming from syrian or any other part because your general thinks this way.

  to resist doesn’t mean to make a war like what GMA made on 1988. what was the result of his war? i will tell you the result. it was that he was running like a chicken to france embassy leaving his people, soldiers and even his family behind of him. so if you are in resistance against the syrian, this doesn’t mean that you have to make a way against them and finally you will fail. resistance has many faces, and when you are sure, after deep calculation, that you can win ur war on syria, then you can go to the war.

  as for doctor SG, he believes that politicals is much better than wars most of the time. he believes that we can go to the war when we have no more any choice like what happened on 1975.

  finally, i hope that one day aounsit will because aounist again.

• 3. Nabil | November 13th, 2007 at 12:10 pm

  Dear oslo - man, thank u 4 reading my comment. Maybe your right, but concerning “the running chicken”, i would to told u that the real chicken is the LFers on the dirty sunday 5/2/2006 (The demonstration against Danish embassy … if u remember)remenber how the islamists invaded Achrafief, dismanle “St. Nicolas cross” and jumping on it, attacking the prayers at “St. Maroun Church”, and all Christian symbols, … What LFers did? Watching !! In face u Know That the inhabitants of “Tarik el Jdideh” resisted to the Shia when they try to attack “Arab university”… Dear Oslo - man in arabic : إن معركة القوات اللبنانية لم ولن تتعدى الشارع المسيحي، ضحايا سمير جعجع المسيحيين فقط . Regards.

• 4. Michele | November 13th, 2007 at 12:23 pm

  Nabil, u got nerves!!!!!!

  I wanted to laugh at u but actually i felt pity for u!

  I’m glad that u agree that GMA was and still is a chicken! However u need as well to understand conducting a war, without any preparations and strategies without any support and resulting by killing people is a crime by itself. U guys obviously, influenced now by HA, the only think that comes to your mind is war and killing not to mention that you also added to your culture the tires burning.

  Anyway GMA is not only a chicken but a criminal as well.

• 5. N10452 | November 13th, 2007 at 12:41 pm

  Nabil,
  When we were defending our regions and were armed, no Syrian was allowed to step in any of our regions … no Syrian had the guts to step in our regions ..

  Our war is to kick Syrians out of Lebanon, not to wage a war in Syria …

  Our struggle was to keep Syrians out, not wage stupid wars to get more Syrians in .. and for all for a stupid chair ..

  I will add to my aim is raising awareness among Christians who totally forgot what we have been fighting for for years … Christians who are insulting our martyrs everyday ..

• 6. oslo-man | November 13th, 2007 at 12:53 pm

  Nabil,

  1st of all those attacking achrafieh were pro-syrians in lebanon (under the umbrella of Islam). the syrians wanted that the christian to make an opposite action then a war can start from there. Doctor SG understood from the 1st minutes that the syrians are trying to make an Islamic-christian problem, that’s why he came on tv 3 or 4 times asking his guys to not make any movement.

  But my question for you in the following: isn’t GMA the only christian leader (as aounist think), and he has 70% of lebanese christian with him? so why you didn’t make any movement on 5/2/2006?

  I just would like to remind you that GMA appeared on 1988 (and i wished he didn’t appear at all) while lebanese forces were the only defender for Christian population in lebanon since the begining of the way from 1975 to 1990. Remember that in that period, we (the christian) became ,due to the LF, the harder and stronger.
  GMA has changed everything due to his strategy and he has seen that the syrian entered “manta2a el char2ieh” after a big war against the only resistance in front of syria which was LF.

• 7. solution réelle | November 13th, 2007 at 1:46 pm

  N
  La syrie est présente au Liban d’après le HA.
  C’est pas la peine de fermer les bordures avec la syrie car le virus déjà existe à l’interieure du Liban. Une fois que le HA est éliminer, la syrie ne peut plus faire ce quelle est en train de faire maintenant.
  Peut etre toi et beaucoup des partisants des 14mars sont contre une élimination totale du HA( c’est a dire une guerre qui peut l’arracher de ses racines), mais c’est la seule solution éfficace pour faire ça.

• 8. Nabil | November 13th, 2007 at 1:52 pm

  Tt’s the fastest replies i ever seen, why u are embarresed, … by the way Michelle #4 i like your name … taratata….

• 9. LF france | November 13th, 2007 at 1:58 pm

  nabil you will never get civalized while thinking that the christians should act like barbarians in order to protect thier regions,

  louk airi bil libneniyeh they will never become a nation, half of lebanon think that owning a gun is cool

• 10. oslo-man | November 13th, 2007 at 2:22 pm

  Nabil, if you want to discuss politically then you are welcomed on our forum, but if you want to show your stupidity and the unpolite language that GMA has teached you (ma btousal la ta7et zennareh, el cha3eb ghachim, ect….), then you can go to tayyar forum and there they will welcome you and they can understand you more than here.

• 11. fad14 | November 13th, 2007 at 2:27 pm

  Aoun and Hizbulla have one thing in common for sure.

  They both declare wars and run away like chicken when it starts and 20 years later they declare victory.

• 12. fad14 | November 13th, 2007 at 2:29 pm

  Aoun and Nasrallah both hide like rats during the war and run faster than dogs when the heat comes near to them.

  Dahyeh and Rabyeh. Land of the rats and chicken.

• 13. Nabil | November 13th, 2007 at 2:32 pm

  Dear Brothers, Fouad Malek, Nader succar, Selman semaha, Toufic hindi, Emile rahme, …. lived Dr. Geagea, what u r waiting 4, … yalla hemmoua

• 14. arze | November 13th, 2007 at 2:35 pm

  Know your enemy Syria is your enemy . Is the slogan of the Lebanese forces?

• 15. Michele | November 13th, 2007 at 4:03 pm

  And Nabil i forgot to mention that u also got the Zammour (taratata) culture!

  Rou7o ya shaab el 3azim, shaab el taratata wel burning tires and down town squatters!!!!!!!

• 16. Tareq | November 13th, 2007 at 4:05 pm

  Nabil is on this blog to change the topic and to waste our time…I will ignore him he is not worth it…Nabil Good luck with Bashar

• 17. Nabil | November 13th, 2007 at 4:09 pm

  Dear Michele, chou sarlik ya bent ! be cool we all brothers ! semhina. regards.

• 18. Paul | November 13th, 2007 at 7:27 pm

  if we start a war against syria,the aounist will shoot us in the back.

• 19. hania | November 13th, 2007 at 9:00 pm

  akidd the aounist wil shoot us in the bak mazeil 3indon chance bil presidency…

• 20. Reader | November 13th, 2007 at 9:49 pm

  N10452,
  I agree with you that the behavior of Syrian Army was barbarian but to be fair you should add in your comment the barbarism shown by others, as example:

  - Why don’t you add some pictures showing the barabrism of the Lebanese Forces during the Civil war, killing Christian lebanese or those of Sabra & Chatila killing wemen, children and unarmed people.
  - Why don’t you talk about your leader assassinating a prime minister Rachid Karame, Dany Chamoun and his family, Toni Frangie, his wife, his 2-year-old daughter and 33 inocent people.
  - Why don’t you add some pictures showing the barbarism of your leader killing lebanese soldiers.
  - Why don’t you add some pictures showing the barbarism of you ally Joumblat killing christians, killing lebanese soldiers. And at the end of the war handing back his arms to the Syrian army instead of the lebanese army
  - Why don’t you add pictures showing the lebanese forces shooting on Tayyar supporters on 23 Dec 2006
  - Why don’t you talk about the lebanese forces bombarding the Presidential house during the invasion of the Syrian Army ?
  - Would remind you that General Michel Aoun was the only person fighting against Syrians when you Lebanes Forces were the Syrian Allies in 1988/1989 don’t forget this.
  - Would remind you that the Lebanese Forces were the allies of Hezbollah during the parliament elections in 2005.

  I’m not afraid anymore of Syrian invasion (to remind you Syria occupied Lebanon with the go ahead of the US, I don’t think they can have it anymore), however I’m terrified to the idea that Lebanese Forces & Joumblat party may lead to another civil war with all the barbarism arround. I think this is the ideology of the Lebanes Forces and the PSP.

• 21. PAULETTE | November 13th, 2007 at 10:11 pm

  NOW,READER YOU PROVED YOU ARE VERY STUPID AND TOTALLY BRAINWASHED.GO FISH ON TAYYAR.COM
  THERE YOU ARE IN YOUR QUALITY ATMOSPHERE.TARATATA ANIMAL

• 22. Bachir 7ay Fina | November 13th, 2007 at 10:19 pm

  Nabil
  Fouad Malek, Nader succar, Selman semaha, Toufic hindi, Emile rahme heheheh ba3ed mech mle2e zbele gheir hawde el 3alam, hawde zbelit el balad li samaytoun

• 23. Bachir 7ay Fina | November 13th, 2007 at 10:20 pm

  Nabil
  Fouad Malek, Nader succar, Selman semaha, Toufic hindi, Emile rahme heheheh ba3ed mech mle2e zbele gheir hawde el 3alam, hawde zbelit el balad li samaytoun.

• 24. fad14 | November 13th, 2007 at 10:21 pm

  reader proved he is from dahyeh and not rabieh.

  he forgets that the syrian army passed from dahyeh in 1990

  he forgets lahoud kicked aoun out and the casualties where only lebanese army officers, they were not suporting saniora or hariri or LF. they were serving under the GREAT General and they got butchered by the other great general and now both GENERALS are good friends.

• 25. lebanese | November 13th, 2007 at 10:38 pm

  to all,
  i have been reading your comments for some time now and analysing… to be honest the came up with some conclusion:
  - It seems we are all attacking “reader” without seriously and logically answering all the raised facts he is stating…
  For example, he said and I quote “reader” if I may:
  “- Why don’t you add some pictures showing the barabrism of the Lebanese Forces during the Civil war, killing Christian lebanese or those of Sabra & Chatila killing wemen, children and unarmed people.”
  And “reader” added:
  “- Why don’t you talk about your leader assassinating a prime minister Rachid Karame, Dany Chamoun and his family, Toni Frangie, his wife, his 2-year-old daughter and 33 inocent people.”

• 26. lebanese | November 13th, 2007 at 10:51 pm

  Now my question is the following:
  Are we questioning our past and about those facts (and I think it is only fare the say that all the facts stated by reader above are facts unfortunately)

  Are we questioning ourselves whether those facts are for the good of Lebanon, of Lebanese and human kind, because i believe all those people killed are human… and we are not animals…

  Is that the image we want to give to the outside world?

  We, as Lebanese are very upset when they deny us the visa to go to a western country, when they treat us like terrorist and they make us feel as a threat. But, if in our past and present we are defending killers and giving them rights to exists…. hmmmm

  Another issue: one should first clean his own house before cleaning the neighbor’s… so first we as LEBANESE we should start by denying the power to the people threatening our peace and our freedom, no?

  And, I am sure ashamed of all the disrespect some of the comments have been showing, I am ashamed that us Lebanese traveling around the world will have to bare the consequences of some of the reactions i read on this site. So the reputation we are giving as Lebanese, is what they, the western world, already have…
  For those who have went to ask of visas, immigrations and traveled, and were asked about Lebanon and the political situation there and you had to defend your country, you should agree…

• 27. N10452 | November 13th, 2007 at 11:02 pm

  Lebanese,
  ba3dak 7afiz zet el cassete ma hek ???

  I believe i should make a section for such allegations that you guys still stick to … walla 2arraftoune 2ad ma b3eedoun ..

  This topic is about Syrian barbarism and will remain so .. internal issues we can debate about in different sections ..

• 28. elie | November 13th, 2007 at 11:14 pm

  To Reader and Lebanese

  The lebanese war was very dirty…
  Lebanese forces Killed GMA soldiers….but GMA soldiers killed a lot of Lebanese forces young Fighters…Kataeb Party killed Toni Franjieh…but Frangieh Guys Killed before that tens of Kataeb party followers in zghorta..
  GMA was not the only one who was fighting syrians….come on Reader give us a break..
  GMA was getting help from syrians during ilghaa war…you can read some of Elias Zoghbi articles about that…
  so guys it was dirty war…
  everybody did bad things…there are no angels in wars..
  GMA bombed ain el roumaneh and furn el chebbak with 155mm artileries i was a young boy then..it was by far the most barbaric action that i remember from the war..
  But now…we should forgive and forget otherwise we are all losers.

• 29. elie | November 13th, 2007 at 11:14 pm

  everyyone had a share by tearing this marvellous country apart, i don’t feel sorry for any of those leaders,but i feel sorry for those innocent people and babies who died without knowing any reason why,we fought against the druze but they are now our allies(pitty) amal fought against hizballa and they are now best allies(pitty)aoun fought against syria and he wants to tell us that he had no problem with them since they are out now ( pitty,where are your great soldiers who fought for the 7arb el ti7reer of yours aren’t they in mazze? what about the great soldiers who were burried alive under the palace of lahoud in baabda for 17 years,is there no asking why or how? pitty),what about el kitli el wataniyye aren’t they enemies to the bones with kataeb where are they now? not allies?(pitty).
  sorry guys, i have an uncle died in 7arb el ilgha between aoun and lf, uncle died in 1983 between druze and lf,who will ever explain to their mother for what cause after all these awkward allies? (REALLY PITTY)

• 30. N10452 | November 13th, 2007 at 11:19 pm

  one should first clean his own house before cleaning the neighbor’s…

  I totally agree with you Lebanese .. thats why u should start by blaming all for the atrocities instead of citing examples of one side ..

• 31. Elie.F.C. | November 13th, 2007 at 11:23 pm

  the one who talked about the allies and who feels pitty is ELIE.F.C,because i saw on the comments other elie,just to be clear. Alla yi7meekon ya shabeb w ykhaleelkon your parents and families.

• 32. lebanese | November 13th, 2007 at 11:29 pm

  I agree with a lot of the comments i read after mine. To N10452 I say, I have only been quoting reader because it seems that we all attacked him and insulted him disregarding the truthfulness of what really happened during the war as Elie was saying.

  i say, like in any small argument you have with your brother at home, no one can solve a problem by blaming, we start by admitting our fault, understanding that brother’s reason to fight and then i see a common ground and do the impossible to have a win win situation. At the end what matters the most is not who is right who is wrong, what matters the most is HOW AND WHAT can we do to be able to all live in peace in our own country. I bet this is what all lebanese our age is searching for, no?

• 33. N10452 | November 13th, 2007 at 11:42 pm

  Lebanese,
  I have admitted on several occasions the mistakes LFers did during the war and the violations they made against civilians .. i am not ashamed to say it, i would be ashamed if i forced myself to defended them ..

  I am 100% for accountability, i am 100% of clearing our image .. i have asked it repeatdly bass ma 7ada byisma3 …

  However this is not the topic here, regardless of all our troubles, Syria is our biggest problem and we must never defend it in any circumstance ….

• 34. lebanese | November 14th, 2007 at 12:24 am

  Beside all the problems we have, in and out…
  Lets consider a wilde ideology….
  Lets say, imagine Lebanon, I hope we all remember it… the best country I have been to…
  Now, imagine lebanese, all religions, all races, all parties, all sects…. not arguing about politics but demanding one thing: peace…

  why?
  because we want to go back to the life we were living, where we used to go party all night, go back to B2B, bashir or that great place that opens 24 hours in hamra and bliss street and have a mankousheh in the morning.
  Spend christmas and eftars with our friends…
  Share ideas and dreams instead of political affiliation

  Spend the summer with all the foreigner that by the way LOVE lebanon and lebanese and their ability to speak so many languages!

  And the only thing we demand from the leaders and the only thing we seek in our leaders is the peace and the peace of mind!
  At any peaceful cost, diplomatic…

  Let us not forget that there are so many countries that have been thru worst than lebanon and have now a growing economy and STABILITY

  We have done one war, we have grown during a war and i dont really think any of us wants to live that again least let our children live what we had gone thru!

  This peace seek has to start here not make war between us on a blog but ask our leaders for something we can’t achieve… a descent conversation!

• 35. Ali 1559 | November 14th, 2007 at 5:44 am

  Possible reasons for an incompetent leadership in between the 14th of march and what makes them call syria an enemy :

  *Ignore citizen ideas and concerns ( saad hariri). Syria to blame.

  * Withold information from citizen (wizaret al dekhliye) .Syria to blame.

  *Fail to clarify roles and responsibilities ( Saad makes decisions and you follow)

  * You set unrealistic deadlines for TAWEFO2 and blame us for not meeting them ( junblat ). Syria to blame .

  * Blame Aoun for everthing . You must win at any COST , both tair2 jdide and mark houwayek incidents were alarming. Syria to blame.

  Syria is bad so is israel . Move on already …

• 36. Reader | November 14th, 2007 at 7:49 am

  Paulette,
  At least I have a Brain maybe washed as you said, but have you a brain at least ?

  To all,
  It is obvious that you are afraid to face others opinion and that is a sign of weakness and helplesness.

  To Lebanese,
  I liked your way of analysing my opinion, this is the way to move forward. I respect your opinion.

• 37. Ali 1559 | November 14th, 2007 at 8:15 am

  Reader

  My freind , some of these educated LFers are suffering Xenophobia.

  Xenophobia : fear of foreigners / strangers or the unknown . Often results in streotypes and racism.

  b7isson they know the truth but they hide it for the hell of it .

  Thank you , sir ..

• 38. fad14 | November 14th, 2007 at 12:31 pm

  Walla ya Ali the more I read your comments the more I think of the toilet

• 39. elie | November 14th, 2007 at 5:11 pm

  Ali and Reader
  The post is about the syrian ennemy…
  do you have any comment about that?
  tell us what do u really think about syrian occupation of lebanon for 29 years…
  we don’t want to hear your opinion about LF
  you are what you are and we are what we are….

  “Ali 1559″you said:”fear of foreigners / strangers or the unknown . Often results in streotypes and racism. ”
  well.. don’t you think that the people who think that they are ” khairou oumaten oukhrijat lilnass” are the bigest racists same like the ones who thinks that they are chaab allah almoukhtar….
  both are actually the biggest ……….. in this world…
  with all respect.

• 40. Reader | November 14th, 2007 at 10:23 pm

  Elie,
  have you read my message ? I said that the behavior of the Syrian Army during the occupation was barbarian, but to be fair we should also consider the barbarism caused by others.

  I repeat again, Syria is now out of Lebanon. All were the allies of Syria except LF and Tayyar. Some had a strategic alliance to fight against Israel to free the occupied territory. Some had an alliance of corruption like Jumblat, Hariri, and others. As you can see this second group has not hesitated to brake the relation with Syria and look for more interesting alliances of course in the corruption area. Beleive me such persons, corrupted persons, are not human anymore and will not hesitate a second to forget about lebnon, forget about the alliances only for money. Have a look on the privatisation of the celluar companies, who is the benificiary ? Marouan Hmede, the one who stole the “Khazinet el Mhajarin”.

  Remember the barbarism of Khadam and Ghazi Kenaan. Khadam to my knowledge is the best friend of Jumblat ? Is it acceptable ?

  Finally, is Syria behind the murder of Hariri and the others ? I don’t know but I don’t think so. Have you the evidence that Syria did it ? I don’t think so. What if Syria is innocent ? This why let the court do the job then we will decide what action to consider but in the meantime lets keep a nice relation with this country it is in our interest

• 41. Silvana | November 15th, 2007 at 5:27 am

  Wow Ali is “Getoverit” Reincarnated or is it the same person??!!… They spout the same repetitive comments….

  They read the word xenophobia and they go blablabla!!! I really need to get some of my psychology professors to read these comments

• 42. elie | November 15th, 2007 at 5:47 am

  Reader
  i have worked in the UAE for 5 years…i met lot of syrians..educated ones …christians and muslims….they all think the same about lebanon and lebanese people….For them there is no Lebanon…that is the reality….
  Believe it or not
  They understand “nice relation” between us and them …” us liking their asses”
  and since we will never do that , there will never be a nice relation between us and syrians.
  Now..did syria kill Hariri or no..it doesn’t matter….what really matter is keeping them away from our land….

• 43. Ali 1559 | November 15th, 2007 at 7:59 pm

  Elie

  Lemme explain something to you witout attacking anyone :

  The US government prb with syria is similar to the one it had with Iran back in 1979. Back then , the americans placed iranian shah reza ( shah) , which created a populist islamic revolution and an anti american sentiment. Did the shah supportes considerd Ayattoullah khoumeyni an enemy? Some did and some did not . Same thing in lebon now , the US has supported Hafez al assad for yrs . They gave the baathists a GREEN light to attack and destroy our lebanese army back in 1989 . Did the lebanese ppl considered SYRIA an enemy ? Some did and some did not.

  The framing of the question ( is syria our enemy) , howerever , make some lebanese love syria the most while you hate syria the most ! As the presidential election heats up, expect more hatred in between the lebanese cuz each and every party has its own enemy . Who’s the enemy then ? No one but ourselves. We are terrorists for doing what we’re doing recently.

  FPM for a better lebanon .

• 44. Ali 1559 | November 15th, 2007 at 8:01 pm

  Silvana

  No need to ask your teacher ! Ask me
  In few yrs I will be teaching your teacher .

• 45. Ali 1559 | November 15th, 2007 at 8:02 pm

  Fad 14

  thank you …

• 46. Hisham | November 15th, 2007 at 8:59 pm

  Dear N10452,
  It’s very unfortunate that some people still can’t see the difference between the Syrian regime and the Syrian people… When you say “these animals”, you forgot that your grandparents, or your grandparents’ parents, were considered “Syrian” before the declaration by General Gouraud of forming the new “State of Greater Lebanon” in September 1920, then the “upgrade” of the state to the “Republic of Lebanon” in 1926. So I guess you think your ancestors were animals too? hahaha…

• 47. paul | November 15th, 2007 at 9:19 pm

  id7ak tad7ak laka dounya
  تحولت مشاركة ممثل الرقابة السورية عمار احمد حامد في مؤتمر »الفن والحرية« الذي نظمه معهد »غوته« الالماني في بيروت إلى وبال عليه, لاسيما حينما راح يحاضر في المؤتمر عن »الحرية التي ينعم بها المبدع في سورية« وقوله انه كان خائفاً من القدوم الى بيروت وان المبدع السوري يعيش اجواء حرية قل نظيرها, وهو لا يعاني اي قيود رقابية من السلطة »وما ان تلفظ عمار احمد حامد بهذه العبارات حتى انفجرت القاعة بالضحك, وكان من بين الساخرين الفنان السوري جهاد سعد نفسه, الذي لم يتمالك نفسه من الضحك مثل البقية رغم انه احد فناني النظام السوري, واحد موظفي مؤسساته الثقافية والاعلامية ذوي الحظوة«. أما رئيس القسم الثقافي في صحيفة »الاخبار« اللبنانية الموالية لسورية بيار ابي صعب فاغتنم الفرصة بعد هدوء عاصفة الضحك وتوجه الى عمار احمد حامد بالقول: »اذا كان الامر كذلك سلم لي كتير على ميشيل كيلو وكل المعتقلين الباقين في سورية«.

• 48. paul | November 15th, 2007 at 9:26 pm

  Ali

  few…is relative

• 49. Ali 1559 | November 16th, 2007 at 6:02 am

  * Did consider on # 43

• 50. Ali 1559 | November 16th, 2007 at 7:18 am

  Paul

  Kiff ?

• 51. paul | November 16th, 2007 at 1:14 pm

  Ali

  i really wish you… and your teacher :-)a good luck

• 52. Ali 1559 | November 16th, 2007 at 7:37 pm

  Paul

  Thank you habibi …

  Best wishes for you and your family as well

• 53. Tarek | November 18th, 2007 at 2:51 pm

  Yup, Syria and its allies in Lebanon are on the top of a list titled “My Enemies” !

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