What happened in the past 3 days and how did we end u here ?

It all started with those famous decisions the government took at 4:30 am as the Opposition was preparing for a strike against that same government apparently for “economical & social” reasons ..

The reaction was to say the least “unexpected” and surprising to me, because i saw riots coming, small fights but i never thought Hezbollah could invade Beirut right now, it was too early for me for such a move even though it was obvious they were organizing a plot against the government, and the only way they believe in is force & violence ..

But it happened and Hezbollah are in control of Beirut now ( the Muslim side only) not to mention Saad Hariri & Jumblatt trapped in their houses in Beirut.

Hezbollah screwed up big time, and they confirmed officially that they are nothing but a militia and a group of thugs, but even more they declared themselves as enemies of the state.

Back to the government and its decision, even though i consider those decisions as bold, but from what i’ve seen in the past three days, they were miscalculated and very badly timed ..

Why is that ?

1- When you take such a stand, you have to take necessary precautions to counter any movement
Hezbollah might do, and a militia cannot be countered unless you have a strong army or ISF forces or a militia of your own, and all three were unavailable ..

2- When you label Hezbollah’s network as illegal, you are contradicting the “bayan wizare” which legalizes HA’s work. So the decision is missing and it should have included illegalizing Hezbollah as an organization.

3- I only saw FMers defending their posts while Jumblatt’s men did not move a finger, even though they are one of the best street fighters, specifically in the Beirut streets. What went wrong and what was Jumblatt thinking of ? Did he want Hezbollah to get where it is now ? Is he depending on external help ?? Because if he thinks the US or Israel will come clean Hezbollah from Beirut, he is mistaken.

What will happen next ?

The situation will stay as it is until the Hezbollah demands are met, and the Sunnites have no hope in regaining their regions unless they fight Hezbollah back ( civil war) or reconsider the decisions they ( the government) took ..




52 Comments. Add your own...

  • 1. THERESINIA | May 10th, 2008 at 12:13 am

    The scenario is as follows:

    1 - Hezballah will not back-up and will impose the General of Rabiyeh as president;

    2 - A few months later the General of Rabiyeh is assassinated (car bomb);

    3 - The L.F. and Geagea are accused;

    4 - A 1000 years war is started between maronites;

    5 - Hezballah will take ALL OVER POWER claiming that NO OTHER than them can ensure security;

    6 - Good Bye Lebanon! CQFD …

  • 2. Free | May 10th, 2008 at 12:24 am

    THERESINIA
    that general of rabieh u are mentioning is the general of all lebanon whether u and ur fanatics like it or not.
    if u don’t show respect to the political leader who represents u as a christian in this country then trust me no one will respect u .
    it is time for u guys to face reality. ur hakim’s illusions won’t get u anywhere.

  • 3. Tarek | May 10th, 2008 at 1:00 am

    Well I’m not very sure about it but there is something strange going on. Jumblat didn’t fight. FM supporters fought in the first 2 days, however they gave up on fighting though they could have easily enlarged the fight even from the first day… In addition it seems that no command was given to the army about interfering nor to the ISF. Don’t know what’s in their mind. I won’t judge the government decisions that caused this reaction until I see the end of this all, the image is still blurry .. However one outcome is sure, HA lost big time politically and strategically and I can see its decline is accelerating.

  • 4. Mar Yuhanna Maroun | May 10th, 2008 at 1:01 am

    1000 years of maronites war? I doubt

    If general of rabieh will be assassinated (car bomb)? no maronite will go to his funeral because he is the cause of our disaster today!

    I feel so sorry for FM, I love them and I think they are civilized people.

    I am LF and We are ready for HA and Bashar and beleive me, we will give them a hell…

  • 5. Fuziyad | May 10th, 2008 at 3:46 am

    Ya N…..

    I haven’t been coming on this blog for long but am really amazed by the stupidity and contradiction in your posts…

    You have been critisizing the government for doing nothing and now you complain that they did???????????? Is your political belief only to be “against”?? what?? who?? why??? I don’t care and am against…. I think you have missed a career in FPM…you just behave like them…

    By the way, you seem to be obsessed with christians and only christians and yr posts inply that you consider all muslims be it sunni or shia, mnoderates or fundamentalits as the same…

    That your right…but why do you choose 10452km2 as a name???????any clue????? 10452 is the whole superficy of lebanon and if you belive in that that not only you HAVE to believe in mulsim chrsitian coexistence it also means you believe in coexistence with ALL muslims…but no…you don’t want…only christians in 10452??? genocide for the others?????????seems you don’t think much for yourself my friend and just repeat empty slogans….

    I don’t believe anymore in 10452…I think lebanon has 2 faces…I can’t live with radical muslims but can live with the moderates among them…and today the sunni-shia conflict got most of the sunnies and the druze get close to what has been our cause since 1920…the shiias under the influence of iran and syria refused that…well, am not gonna say all muslims are the same…I can’t live with HA for now…let’s cut this crap country and try an adventure with the sunnies and the druzes may be under federal division…if they say they are with me why should I doubt them…let’s try it…anyway we don’t have many other choices…

  • 6. EV | May 10th, 2008 at 4:07 am

    I am for partition as well. We cannot live with these guys anymore, especially that our hatred to them has jumped by leaps and bounds and will last for many generations.

  • 7. fadi | May 10th, 2008 at 4:11 am

    10452, honestly I am shocked with this post as isn’t this the same as electing a president with clear majority that would’ve have been a all in war muslims and christians.

    The government took a stance and dont have to predict whats going to happen, because if they did predict anything it wouldnt have been what happened in the last 3 days.

    Hezbollah are cowards they used the workers union and went on from there and I am glad that there is a bit of fighting but not like we would have thought people saying FM militias and that.

    I think it is a clear plan from FM and jumblatt to show the people of lebanon what hezbollah is all about, if we can sit down another 4 to 5 days and accept it on the chin then it will get very bad for hezbollah.

    Look at AOUN the idiot, saying this is the right path now HAHAHA, really makes me laugh, he is thinking this is his clear oppurunity to become president by using force and not democratically.

    One other thing I am very very very disappointed with the Lebanese Army, can’t believe it M14 are the ones fighting for there freedom to be the only protectors of our land, where the other thugs just want them as a backup

  • 8. ok | May 10th, 2008 at 4:52 am

    “Why is that ?”
    Simple. M14 counted on the army to take on HA/Amal, making clear that is was HA versus the Lebanese State. When the time came, the “martial law”, curfew imposed by the army, etc - what happened ? Our great hero SS-”Super Sleiman” showed his true face, and now the army is providing cover for the thugs, how nice.

    Today is the HA that is singing “Go army, Go!”

    But, hey - see the good part - the army didn’t split “à la ‘75″ as we feared, it stand behind HA!

  • 9. Mourakib | May 10th, 2008 at 5:04 am

    N,

    I do not beleive it has anything to do with the Gov. Decisions (Although I agree that they were not the smartest thing to do). HA was preparing for this invasion since last year (you only need to review Aoun statements about Saniora not having the time to pack his stuff).
    The coming days will be even worst where it seems the paln for HA is to expand east to control Beirut-Damascus Road. Once this is controlled, I wouldn’t be surprised that the step after would be to move north using FPM paramilitias that they have been training for almost one year now.
    The issue is while the christians beleive that they are living on an island, the reality is that the ship is sinking and it happens that they are on the high end.

  • 10. Fuziyad | May 10th, 2008 at 5:22 am

    Mourakib…fully agree with you…the christians thinking they are living on an island are living in la la land…

    HA, their Iranian bearded masters and the syrian baas know well the christians are their worse ennemy and the iranian dream to make it turn into more than a shiia sunni fight…

    Dunno what their plan is but FPM can’t be part of it…Orange flags in christian regions planted by a few mentally retarted school kids???? what a joke….

    From the ring to jroud el akkar including chouf and half of bekaa is lubnan el horr…7153km2, let them rot in the remains…

  • 11. wage slave X | May 10th, 2008 at 6:23 am

    This is wrong.

    1. The PSP didn’t put on a fight in Beirut, because they are surrounded geographically over there. All their areas are mixed. To prove my point, look at the fighting they put up in Alay (excuse my spelling). Jumblatt has always considered the mountain and shouf as their strong hold. During the civil war, most of their operation were done in coordination with other militias in west Beirut.

    2. FM couldn’t fight that hard, because they were individuals with weapons fighting a fully armed well trained militia. You tell me the odds here.

    3. Almost everyone used to criticize the government for not taking firm stands and tough decisions. Even now there are some voices asking for the 50+ election of General Suleiman. When the government took those two decisions, they were accused of being too hasty! I agree with Fuziyad on this point.

    4. No one knows what is going to happen because no one knew that this will actually happen to start with.

    5. As for LF and the Christian areas. Again, since Hezbollah could afford a Sunni - Shiite direct confrontation right in front of the Arab eyes, they can afford anything from now on – if no drastic measures are taken by the Arab world and international communities. Hezbollah is betting that these measures will not exceed condemnation and request for peaceful dialogue.

    6. I am not part of LF and I disagree politically with them, but certainly I am against Hezbollah not for what it did in the past, or is doing now, or it will do in the future to fulfill its agenda. But if the Christians and LF want to confront the Hezbollah – Amal thrust, they must think of ways other than military confrontation. They must gather massive international and regional support and decisive action. Having Christians killed in battle is not something anyone should aspire. Besides, Aoun will claim that he is the Christian leader who represents 70%…. (We all know this lie). This lie will be flushed to the international media so that no one will think that the Christians are in danger.

  • 12. Eric | May 10th, 2008 at 7:36 am

    Wa2ta 3emlo hack la lebanese-forces.org, ya N b2it tektoub posts 3a chi 3 iyyem w ma be2eh chi ma elto.
    Yaret btekteblak post aw bet atti3 wlanno chi jemleh 3an teskir Future TV w tehdida. La2enno yalli sar ma bi sir bi balad tabi3eh.

  • 13. Jim | May 10th, 2008 at 7:43 am

    did u all believe that there was a fight!! there were bunch of people protecting their homes and their areas! if hariri wanted a fight believe me hundreds even thousands would of died! it only takes one word from the mufti “AL JIHAD” that is enough to create a civil war!! but they r taking things slowly and showing every one, internally and externally that hezb allah is actually a bunch of thugs run by bou da2n w she7ayta, things tht he is allahs best friend!

  • 14. fad14 | May 10th, 2008 at 8:05 am

    There was no call to fight, public or internal.

    Have faith ya Shabeb, Beirut is bigger than shit, we kicked ISRAEL OUT in 1982 after 12 days.

    Laugh all you want, but this phase won’t last long.

  • 15. Johnny.B | May 10th, 2008 at 8:59 am

    Regardless what the situation is,

    animals who fight words with weapons have no place between human beings …

    unfortunatly the shia’s in lebanon have proven to be no better than rats in sewars who fight and kill themselves over a tiny piece of cheese … lowlife, ignorants, barbaric, uneducated, raj3iyyeh … these people remind of movies i used to watch about barbaric people during the dark ages …

    tfeh 3a aselkon …

  • 16. libanon | May 10th, 2008 at 9:05 am

    Why don’t you people give it a rest.
    This was just M14 scoring a few political points, and some low jabs. They knew exactly what was going to happen after they attaked hizballah’s most important weapon.
    And now it’s all over, so just give it a rest.

  • 17. as3ad | May 10th, 2008 at 10:07 am

    u all just dont want to admit the fact that u lost….
    get over it…. what happened is that sanioura thought HA will do nothing also this time…. and this shocked him!
    thugs needed to be treated this way… and those in the streets r not HA fighters…. they’re Amal…
    from now and on this is the new lebanon…. if u think we have room la “za3ranetkon” from now and on, u’ll be wrong…
    ahla w sahla bil mni7…

  • 18. Johnny.B | May 10th, 2008 at 10:19 am

    as3ad,

    … and who’s behalfare you talking ? do you represent someone or bass 3am to2rat 7akeh ?

  • 19. wage slave X | May 10th, 2008 at 10:48 am

    as3ad,

    you have the full right to support hezbollah or amal. i agree with you that a major part of the fighting was done by amal militants.

    but what are you talking about? since when political differences are supposed to be dealt with this way? so if someone disagrees with you, he has the right to pick up a gun a shoot? i seriously wish you no harm, but would you accept that?

    and to go on with your logic: the occupying israeli forces are in political difference with hamas. is it ok for them to kill hamas militants? ofcourse not.

    is this the survival of the fittest and who has the fire power?

    why then were you, and i, both i am sure, against the american invasion of iraq?

    so why is it ok for the lebanese hezbollah and amal to launch street fights against lebanese FM & PSP?

    and to go on with your logic, again, do you welcome this kind of fighting to settle things? shall we go on with civil war - part 2?

    go on and look at the eyes of any mother who lost a child during the civil war, and then come and tell everyone what the hell have we lebanese done.

  • 20. Tony | May 10th, 2008 at 10:49 am

    So as3ad what hizbollah and amal did wasnt za3raneh haram hene shou shourafa

    And Future was ready and we didnt want to fall into hizbollah trap for a civil war.

    Only amal are you that blinded by your propoganda please it was obviouse hizbollah was there to

  • 21. jay | May 10th, 2008 at 10:53 am

    Hard to imagine Jumblatt, and the of M14 leaders failing to foresee HA’s aggression. I think these guys deserve the benefit of the doubt till things become somewhat clearer for us the common’ers.

    It only makes one wonder though what posses Nasralha to pull such a desperate stunt. Desperation maybe?

  • 22. as3ad | May 10th, 2008 at 11:09 am

    law kinto killkon ma7alna kinto abartoona men zamen…. la2eno t7ammalna li ma 7ada t7ammalo bi teri5 libnen….
    w ma3 hek… kil ma yfooto l 7arakeh 3ala mant2a 3am ya3towa lal jesh deghre kirmel ma 7ada y2oul 3am ya3mlo 7arb ahliyye… and again HA r not there…..
    and i hope u all realize this is not personally agains LF or Jonblat or Hariri…. its against those who decided to carry guns to fight us long time ago…. remember the sniping at the arab university?
    i have friends among LF and tayyar l mosta2bal… and i know how good they r… but so far only those who want violence in the streets r forced to be dis-armed.

  • 23. Johnny.B | May 10th, 2008 at 11:41 am

    as3ad,

    those in the streets do not represent anybody they are only people who are trying to defend themselves, the only problem is that why jamei3it 8 march are coming to the area’s yalleh ma7soubeh 3ala fari2 m3ayyan … can’t they protest in their own areas?

  • 24. wage slave X | May 10th, 2008 at 11:49 am

    as3ad,

    it is not the point of giving the beirut zones to the army. why did they take over the areas in the first place. why would there be such an “area giving to the army”. no credit given there, i am sorry.

    you suffered a lot? correct. so did everyone else. does that justify what hezbollah & amal did? not at all.

    you have friends from all spectrum of the politcal genre. this is a personal issue and has nothing to do with you personally. no one is criticizing you as3ad in person. we are discussing what happened in beirut.

    i am not going to discuss with you the issue of snipers coz everyone had weapons back then. this is an endless discussion pit.

    but whatever happened, whatever your suffering is throughout history, whoever made you suffer, whoever your friends are, or your political opnions go. this does not justify the closing and burning of future tv, the shooting of civilians mourning of a guy who died in tarik el jdeideh (just now).

    and why are you saying we suffered? who are you? the shiites? so is this a secterian clash?

    if we were in your place? who are we? the christians? trust me on this? if LF or PSP or FM or anyone else did that to you, i, and so many many others reading this, would have denounced this.

    nothing justifies this. nothing.

  • 25. Bachir 7ay Fina | May 10th, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    as3ad
    Be2it souriya tendoukh fikoun 20 séné ya chi3a fa sar badkoun lebnen kello.
    20 séné w ento tedarabo w iran w souria ma3koun wel jeich kello chi3a.

    El nizam el souré 2awa el chi3a 3a kel el tawayif.
    ta3mil el ossa dod 14march kezeb.
    ento 7taleito manati2 el seniyeh.
    yes ento chi3a dod el senieh halla2.

    bass la zakrak chi eno senit 1988 kenit el ouwet tfout teghzé el da7yeh men waet la waet w rej3it el ouwet n7alit kella.
    Fa ma fi chajara le7i2 rasa rabba w raskoun ra7 yetkassar

  • 26. Tony | May 10th, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    aslan el dahieh kene 70% lal roum bas shou sar???

  • 27. Rodge | May 10th, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    Hezbollah is wrong, with no but. Nothing, and I mean nothing can justify what they are doing.

    But again, and as i said before that HA and his allies will lost eventually, I think they started to lose already, they are losing much, mainly by the closure of the demolition of many media (Future, Sevan, Shira3 etc…), is this democracy and sharing???
    I really hope that HA will rule, just for one reason, because I will enjoy seeing them fail hard

  • 28. rami_10452km | May 10th, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    alllahh kbirrrr ntarnnna ktir ta yrou7 elsoureh……. w ra777
    7a ninntor ktir ta yrou7 sle7 hezb allah ……..basss ha yrou7

  • 29. Rodge | May 10th, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    Hezbollah is wrong, with no but. Nothing, and I mean nothing can justify what they are doing.

    But again, and as i said before that HA and his allies will lost eventually, I think they started to lose already, they are losing much, mainly by the closure or the demolition of many media (Future, Sevan, Shira3 etc…), is this democracy and sharing???
    I really hope that HA will rule, just for one reason, because I will enjoy seeing them fail hard, and the ones who are supporting them now will be the first to regret it.

  • 30. Rodge | May 10th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    Hilwi minnak rami_10452km

    I totally agree with you

  • 31. Rodge | May 10th, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    In a statement a while ago, Hizbollah accused the PSP or kidnapping 3 of his members and executing 2 of them.

    Haram Hizbollah shou bari2.
    I think what happened yesterday in Aley area, and the statement of HA today, indicate that they are planning something in the mountain, especially after they started their harrassments yesterday.

  • 32. N10452 | May 10th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    Fuziyad,
    I would appreciate if u show more respect and argue reasonably on the blog .. i am sure you dont want anyone calling u a fucking idiot or freaking stupid .. so show respect and if u r so bothered by my posts, dont read them ..

    I have been critisizng the gov for not doing anything yes, bass mich ya3ne u do one thing without protecting urself .. take ur precautions to save the damn country .. dont go ballistic on HA and u cant protect ur own regions and ur own police chickens out !

    AS for the 10452, where do u see obsession with muslims ?? it is a sunnite-shiite problem right now and nothing else, because christians are marginalized right now .. where the hell did u see me say i want to kill the muslims ??
    are you drunk or high or hallucinating ?

    Anyway what was that last paragraph u wrote ??
    I repeatedly said Federalism is the only way out … and today applies more than ever !

  • 33. wage slave X | May 10th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    as i said above in the morning, PSP will show feirce fighting in their stronghold, not as in west beirut. and this is what they did.

    the spark is spreading all over lebanon. hezbollah is testing the alley and shouf areas now. and they will test other areas, one by one.

    only the areas with a christian majority are left out from all this madness…

  • 34. wage slave X | May 10th, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    N10452,

    i’m sorry i don’t agree with you that this is a sunni - shiite problem. what is happening is affecting the whole country.

    i will not discuss whether fedralism is the right thing or not coz this is a long debate. but until this happens, the christians are part of the whole.

    some one quoted martin niemoller yesterday on this blog. i’ll repeat it again with special thanks to this guy on the blog for reminding us about it.

    ” in germany, they came first for the communists, and i didn’t speak up because i wasn’t a communist

    and then they came for the jews, and i didn’t speak up because i wasn’t a jew

    and then they came for the trade unionists, and i didn’t speak up because i wasn’t a trade unionist

    and then they came for the catholics, and i didn’t speak up because i was a protestant

    and then they came for me . . . and by that time there was no one left to speak up”

  • 35. Cyprus | May 10th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    Why do we need el Jaych el Lebneneh if he doesn’t defend the civil people and defend the israelian attacks?

    el afdal noforto la jaych wel masareh li 3am yendafa3lo min sakker fiya 3ajz el dawleh w kel fe2a se3eta ta3mol AMEN ZETEH.

  • 36. BOB | May 10th, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    Wait and see my friend

    Neither Future movement or Joumblatt fought in Beirut. They want to draw Hezbollah in Beirut to show what thugs and criminals they are.

    They can come in but they will never stay there long…

    just wait and see

  • 37. Rodge | May 10th, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    Listen to this:

    The Lebanese Army command announced that it decided to keep Wafiq Shoucair in his position until now.

    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

  • 38. wage slave X | May 10th, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    i’m sorry i don’t agree with you that this is a sunni - shiite problem. what is happening is affecting the whole country.

    i will not discuss whether fedralism is the right thing or not coz this is a long debate. but until this happens, the christians are part of the whole.

    some one quoted martin niemoller yesterday on this blog. i’ll repeat it again with special thanks to this guy on the blog for reminding us about it.

    ” in germany, they came first for the communists, and i didn’t speak up because i wasn’t a communist

    and then they came for the jews, and i didn’t speak up because i wasn’t a jew

    and then they came for the trade unionists, and i didn’t speak up because i wasn’t a trade unionist

    and then they came for the catholics, and i didn’t speak up because i was a protestant

    and then they came for me . . . and by that time there was no one left to speak up”

  • 39. wage slave X | May 10th, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    yes rodge that is true, also the army will do its own internal investigation about hezbollah’s network. this will be dealt with “the lebanese way”. no conclusions.

    i think what will happen next is that the situation will go back to were it was before 7 may.

    but for the future, and i hope, i really hope, that i am wrong in what i am about to say. here is what might happen:

    - all factions noticing that the army could not even protect anything or anyone, not even tv or people mouring a dead guy. all of these factions will start learning lessons and seeing weak and strong points of their “opponent” and start arming themselves. that goes for everyone

    - the rise of fundemental sunni islamists in lebanon

    - christians having lost faith in the armed forces will move more and more into seperating themselves from the rest of lebanon. if not actual segregation, but in their mentalities.

    - aoun will lose a lot out of his, coz he was wrong in supporting what has been done thinking that this is it. this is the time he becomes president. more problems in his camp. LF and geagea on the other hand gained so much in showing wisdom.

    - the druze made it clear and are happy that no one messes with their jabal and shouf.

    - and everyone will prepare for round 2.

    you might not remember, but before 1975, clashes kept occuring and every party started arming itself.

    i hope that i am wrong and time will prove that this is not the case.

  • 40. Rodge | May 10th, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    wage slave X

    What you said looks really true and the way you analyze the situation shows that u have a lot to give here on the blog.
    Yes I do rememebr what happened before 1975, mainly in 1969 and 1973 among other clashes, and I have the same fear that we’re just delaying the civil war.

  • 41. Tarek | May 10th, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    I agree with wax slave X. When the army does not protect the citizens right there is no need for it. Everybody will start arming themselves heavily. Actually I agree with this. I think we should dissolve the army and spend the money on something else since it seems useless.

  • 42. paul | May 10th, 2008 at 5:46 pm

  • 43. LF :D :D | May 10th, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    kholsit 2ositna ya 7lween samir geagea mbari7 awal mara bshoufo wijo byishbah fa7im il sindyan aswaaaaaad.
    tnan il army talab min il 7koumi inno tilghi 2ararata.
    bye bye bye ya 7ilween :)

  • 44. paul | May 10th, 2008 at 7:04 pm

    chou t3allamna min kil hal action? tsalla7o ya ouwet wbala syese bala ballout.

  • 45. libanon | May 10th, 2008 at 7:30 pm

    If it wasn’t for aoun the christian areas would have been in chaos. Thank god that there are still some sane people like him in lebanon.

  • 46. ceg | May 10th, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7393982.stm

    My two critiques are that Shoqueir and the illegal phone network will be maintained, and that Sanioura will not declare war on Hezbollah, even though it is obvious that they have declared war on Lebanon, the Lebanese people, their spirit, freedoms, etc. If the government doesn’t stick by their position here, then any decision will have to pass through Hezbollah before it is actually implemented, and this poses a problem for Lebanon, and Christians especially (in my opinion). I do not like what is currently ocurring in Beirut, but you can’t reason with Hezbollah, they don’t want compromise, they call for dialogue and then back down when the time actually comes for it. The only way to deal with them is to finish them off. No to Hezbollah as a miltia, and no to Hezbollah as a poloitical party, because it is obvious that this (politics) is their cover to retain weapons, support, etc. In short, NO to Hezbollah in any capacity in Lebanon as they are being run today - Go back to Iran!

  • 47. wage slave X | May 10th, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    LF :D,

    thank you for contemplating the skin complexion of geagea.

    Paul,

    i disagree with you. bullets not ballots will lead the country into destruction. amal and hizbollah committed horrible atrocities, regardless of how hard they try to explain this. no one should be like them.

    Libanon,

    how on earth did aoun stop the chaos in the Christian areas? seriously, let’s see if you are right. but with facts please, not slogans- and not a reference to the MOU with Hezbollah.

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  • 49. libanon | May 10th, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    X, aoun’s support of hizballah did prevent any fights in the christian areas, you can see that only the christian areas had calm, or maybe you think hizballah didn’t attack because they are afraid of the resistance that some snobbish christians who would see it as the end of the world if they lost a fingernail would put up.
    And everyone committed horrible atrocities (just look at what happened in the north), but of course you only see what you want to see, the evil totalitarian hizballah terrorists and the patriotic democracy loving FM PSP freedom fighters, right?
    Hizballah were attacked, they defended themselves.

  • 50. wage slave X | May 10th, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    FPM and LF communication prevented escalations in the christian areas. no one in his right mind will think that hizbollah don’t have the ability to “attack” the christian areas. i agree with you in that.

    but it is funny that you used the word attack. it sums up everything that was discussed by everyone.

    assuming that what you said is true. why would christians need protection whether in an MOU or any other sort of agreement.

    in your logic, aoun’s support of hezbollah prevented hezbollah’s attack. so anyone who does not support hezbollah can be attacked? that is what can be derived from what you said. so it is either support or get attacked?

    FPM did not support the government during the syrian days. should they have done that to avoid being oppressed or attacked?

    you said aoun’s support stopped hezbollah. this means: hezbollah attacks everyone- you support him- you save yourself.

    i never mentioned anything about freedom fighters sir. but when were hezbollah attacked? since 7 in the morning, the airport road was being blocked. future tv attacked hezbollah? or was it sevan radio? or, or, or…

    did those 6 today mourners attack hezbollah?

    you have full right to support aoun, i repsect that. but there is no way to justify what has been done in beirut.

    if you think like that, then don’t blame PSP, or FM FPM or LF for thinking of doing the same sometime later in the future - gof forbid really.

    i don’t like to talk about my own political affiliations, but i don’t support LF, FM or PSP. i don’t support FPM or amal or hezbollah. but when you see what has happened, you can’t take sides just like that coz of your political affiliations.

    it is so easy to find an excuse to justify one’s actions. you know that more than me.

    above, i told paul that i disagree with him that he is thinking of arming. paul does not agree with hezbollah (apologies paul for speaking in your name). so what shall he do then? you just agreed with him indirectly, and gave him an argument.

  • 51. paul | May 10th, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    Wage slave x

    my comment about weapons was meant ironically.it came after many were proud to the displacement of Sunnis with weapons,and see themselves as winners even though the funerals of their own people are fully in “progress”.I had many discussions with these types and have noticed that they are not what they indicate.

    i like to read your comments but i think the time will come and you will give up, “di2 lmay may”.

    i wish you good luck.

  • 52. Michele | May 11th, 2008 at 9:43 am

    Wage Slave X, ur comments are so deep, factual n wise that i’m not sure if any from the March 8 will understand anything.

    I salute u for ur wisdom and mainly ur patience but seriously don’t waste ur time on replying back to these idiots of March 8.

    However i would really like to hear more abt ur opinion n thoughts on that blog.



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