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	<title>Comments on: Armenians in Lebanon or Lebanese Armenians ?</title>
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		<title>By: Armenia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Armenia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first of all Mr.MALO you wrote " I have no embarrassement, no guilt feeling, and no hesitation in mentionning outloud that the majority of the Armenian people in Lebanon are worth nothing, just like their votes, in the Lebanese political scenery. " heyy buddy,its the Armenians who helped ur poor little hole called Lebanon GROW!! dONT FORGET THAT!!! ARMENIANS outside lebanon dont care 1 bit about ur country!! Lebanon,Sri Lanka or Somalia is the same for us,just another country, so take it easy! 

and MR.FRANCE you wrote " now i’ve understood why BACHIR don’t like the armenians. The armenians is the single christian party how had not enter the lebanese war bcz they consider serlves not lebanese but armenians." Y?? Y??? Y?? should we enter the lebanese war!! WE R ARMENIANS FIRST,THEN LEBANESE(for those who live there)!! its ur country,u fight!!!
YOU ARABS ARE JUST JEALOUS OF US ARMENIANS BECUZ WE HAVE OUR OWN PEACEFULL COUNTRY,1 RELIGION,AND WE CONTROL OUR COUNTRY!!! WE DONT KILL EACHOTHER!!!WE SUPPORT EACHOTHER!! ARABS WILL ALWAYS BE ARABS!! 

GOD BLESS ARMENIA!!! GOD BLESS TASHNAGTSOUTYOUN!!!

KEEP ON HATING BROTHER,ITS ONLY GONNA GET US STRONGER!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first of all Mr.MALO you wrote &#8221; I have no embarrassement, no guilt feeling, and no hesitation in mentionning outloud that the majority of the Armenian people in Lebanon are worth nothing, just like their votes, in the Lebanese political scenery. &#8221; heyy buddy,its the Armenians who helped ur poor little hole called Lebanon GROW!! dONT FORGET THAT!!! ARMENIANS outside lebanon dont care 1 bit about ur country!! Lebanon,Sri Lanka or Somalia is the same for us,just another country, so take it easy! </p>
<p>and MR.FRANCE you wrote &#8221; now i’ve understood why BACHIR don’t like the armenians. The armenians is the single christian party how had not enter the lebanese war bcz they consider serlves not lebanese but armenians.&#8221; Y?? Y??? Y?? should we enter the lebanese war!! WE R ARMENIANS FIRST,THEN LEBANESE(for those who live there)!! its ur country,u fight!!!<br />
YOU ARABS ARE JUST JEALOUS OF US ARMENIANS BECUZ WE HAVE OUR OWN PEACEFULL COUNTRY,1 RELIGION,AND WE CONTROL OUR COUNTRY!!! WE DONT KILL EACHOTHER!!!WE SUPPORT EACHOTHER!! ARABS WILL ALWAYS BE ARABS!! </p>
<p>GOD BLESS ARMENIA!!! GOD BLESS TASHNAGTSOUTYOUN!!!</p>
<p>KEEP ON HATING BROTHER,ITS ONLY GONNA GET US STRONGER!!!</p>
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		<title>By: HAYASTAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>HAYASTAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ohh AND BTW  no1 no1 no1 no1 no1 other then lebanese or armenians living in lebanon care about ur stupid politics!! we have our own issues</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ohh AND BTW  no1 no1 no1 no1 no1 other then lebanese or armenians living in lebanon care about ur stupid politics!! we have our own issues</p>
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		<title>By: harout</title>
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		<dc:creator>harout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>malo hayeti alla yise3edna 3ala nes metel hadertik,2lli hene bala 2khle2 woul wa3i.
awalan 3ambet ouli mamneswa shi rah 2llik makentou teswou shi bidouna ba3dkon kentou felahin 3alamnekon telbesou teshteghlou ou 2t3amrou.
saniyan,abel 35 seni mish 2l arman 2twasalou lan dal bi lbnen wa2t kenet soufoun 2l canadiye 3am te3bor mouhit 2l atlasi la yekhdouna, bal kenet ra2is joumhouriyet lbnen ma3 be2i wouzara2 ala 2trajouna lan dal bi lbnen ou yel3an 2l da2i2a.selisan 2ktisad 2l lubneni we2ef tahet 2jreyna na3m nahna metlel yahoud bl ahra yahoud metlel arman nahna 2msaytrin bi kaza kita3at bi lbnen malayin dollarat tehsal dawlet 2l lbneniye mn wara 2l arman.
3amarna 2htaramna waleken maza hasalna, hasalna 3ala 2elet adam min al siyesiyin 3andkon .
fa 3ayeb tehkou bi hal tari2a nahna mousta3edin hala 2nfel mn lbnen waleken rah 2ndalna bi lbnen mish houban lakom bal houban li lubnan alla yikhalina lbnena 2l ghely .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>malo hayeti alla yise3edna 3ala nes metel hadertik,2lli hene bala 2khle2 woul wa3i.<br />
awalan 3ambet ouli mamneswa shi rah 2llik makentou teswou shi bidouna ba3dkon kentou felahin 3alamnekon telbesou teshteghlou ou 2t3amrou.<br />
saniyan,abel 35 seni mish 2l arman 2twasalou lan dal bi lbnen wa2t kenet soufoun 2l canadiye 3am te3bor mouhit 2l atlasi la yekhdouna, bal kenet ra2is joumhouriyet lbnen ma3 be2i wouzara2 ala 2trajouna lan dal bi lbnen ou yel3an 2l da2i2a.selisan 2ktisad 2l lubneni we2ef tahet 2jreyna na3m nahna metlel yahoud bl ahra yahoud metlel arman nahna 2msaytrin bi kaza kita3at bi lbnen malayin dollarat tehsal dawlet 2l lbneniye mn wara 2l arman.<br />
3amarna 2htaramna waleken maza hasalna, hasalna 3ala 2elet adam min al siyesiyin 3andkon .<br />
fa 3ayeb tehkou bi hal tari2a nahna mousta3edin hala 2nfel mn lbnen waleken rah 2ndalna bi lbnen mish houban lakom bal houban li lubnan alla yikhalina lbnena 2l ghely .</p>
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		<title>By: MALO</title>
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		<dc:creator>MALO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is funny how the armenians require that all of us maronites or other oriental christians sympathise with their suffering (while we have suffered the same massacres from the same perpetrators), and they refuse for us the right to even question them on them sympathising with our continuous sufferings and struggles which are also supposed to be there's as Lebanese in "full right".

I have no embarrassement, no guilt feeling, and no hesitation in mentionning outloud that the majority of the Armenian people in Lebanon are worth nothing, just like their votes, in the Lebanese political scenery. 

If the genocide of other Lebanese christians (their direct neighbours in some instances) doesn't shake them, if the suffering of their fellow Lebanese citizens doesn't make them move an inch, if the assassination of Pierre Gemayel doesn't weigh for anything in their political stance, then the hell with them, the hell with their cause and the hell with the 80% bastards that follow the tashnag blindly in every election.

If these people are oppressed then we, as their Lebanese co-patriotes, have the duty to liberate them from their opressors. Not helping them deal with their problems is the exact racist stance, the confessional stance... 

Addressing the opression of the Armenians in Lebanon is a national duty on every Lebanese that considers that this people is an integral part of Lebanon. Not addressing this issue, and "not interfering in Armenian affairs" is the exact racist, discreminating and confessional stance that all of us should refuse to adopt. This problem cannot drag any longer as it is growing in time, and one day it will blow up in all of our faces, just like it was close to do last Sunday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is funny how the armenians require that all of us maronites or other oriental christians sympathise with their suffering (while we have suffered the same massacres from the same perpetrators), and they refuse for us the right to even question them on them sympathising with our continuous sufferings and struggles which are also supposed to be there&#8217;s as Lebanese in &#8220;full right&#8221;.</p>
<p>I have no embarrassement, no guilt feeling, and no hesitation in mentionning outloud that the majority of the Armenian people in Lebanon are worth nothing, just like their votes, in the Lebanese political scenery. </p>
<p>If the genocide of other Lebanese christians (their direct neighbours in some instances) doesn&#8217;t shake them, if the suffering of their fellow Lebanese citizens doesn&#8217;t make them move an inch, if the assassination of Pierre Gemayel doesn&#8217;t weigh for anything in their political stance, then the hell with them, the hell with their cause and the hell with the 80% bastards that follow the tashnag blindly in every election.</p>
<p>If these people are oppressed then we, as their Lebanese co-patriotes, have the duty to liberate them from their opressors. Not helping them deal with their problems is the exact racist stance, the confessional stance&#8230; </p>
<p>Addressing the opression of the Armenians in Lebanon is a national duty on every Lebanese that considers that this people is an integral part of Lebanon. Not addressing this issue, and &#8220;not interfering in Armenian affairs&#8221; is the exact racist, discreminating and confessional stance that all of us should refuse to adopt. This problem cannot drag any longer as it is growing in time, and one day it will blow up in all of our faces, just like it was close to do last Sunday.</p>
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		<title>By: lebanese</title>
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		<dc:creator>lebanese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ga ge mena hay heghapoghagan tashnagtzoutyoun ,i mean god save tashnag party ,
iza shekh 2jmeyel bedo yestakred 2l arman nahna bednan oul lakabak leysa sheykh bal (kheyen) every body knows that shekh bachir alla yerhamo we loved him so much kheyen amin ken bi ghar mn kheyo ou fina 2n2oul 2tsabab bi maktal ahad a3zam zou3ame2 lbnen (bachir) so maya3tina dourous(lil arman)ou 2lli saret ou rah yisir mana ila 3ikab mn alla biyestehela ou aktar kamen 3eshtom wa 3asha lubnan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ga ge mena hay heghapoghagan tashnagtzoutyoun ,i mean god save tashnag party ,<br />
iza shekh 2jmeyel bedo yestakred 2l arman nahna bednan oul lakabak leysa sheykh bal (kheyen) every body knows that shekh bachir alla yerhamo we loved him so much kheyen amin ken bi ghar mn kheyo ou fina 2n2oul 2tsabab bi maktal ahad a3zam zou3ame2 lbnen (bachir) so maya3tina dourous(lil arman)ou 2lli saret ou rah yisir mana ila 3ikab mn alla biyestehela ou aktar kamen 3eshtom wa 3asha lubnan</p>
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		<title>By: Krazy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, I was very shocked to read some of the replies and know that we (Armenians) are hated so much by fellow Christians in Lebanon.

I consider myself Lebanese Armenian and I've lived here all of my life and I have the Lebanese identity which means I'm just equal to any other Lebanese. 

As you learn in history at school (12th grade), Lebanese were leaving the region when Armenians came here and most probably that's the reason we were offered to be Lebanese. This means it was your decision at that time.

Most of the time I'm seeing your attacks towards the Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Tashnag). It's not important to attack whoever doesn't agree with you politically, just get this! We would have been your allies if Mr. Saad Hariri didn't want to have total control on us which we refused and we all know that a political party alone can not reach a position in Lebanon and that's why we had to ally with Aoun whose supporters are contributing with us and protecting our rights (I've heard FPMers talking in favor of Armenians many times in the university while there were no Armenian around) while when I write something about Armenian in a Future Movement forum, I get attacked from all the sides and they start protecting Turkey.

For the person who talked about Tashnag protesting in Lebanon against Turks. Remember, when Erdogan came to meet Sanioura, Henchag and Ramgavar united with Tashnag protested. But as we all know, Sanioura doesn't listen to his allies (Henchag and Ramgavar).

By the way, I also know Henchag leaders (check the word Leaders once again) who support Aoun. So there's nothing in it, everybody is free to support whoever (s)he wants.

About being racist. I'm not racist but I'm an extremist just like the Maronites, Shiites, Sunnites and the Durzis ... I respect the other religion /race but I'm stuck to mine!
Some examples about racism, most of the LFers that I know talk against Muslims (check political forums and you'll know what I mean).

About the Lebanese civil war and the era that I don't like to talk about cause I don't want to it to happen again. But you made me say some words about it. A guy mentioned that we didn't participate in the war and this means we are not Lebanese. Man, whoever participated in the war ruined the country! (open your eyes) and by not participating we just didn't want to ruin a country which accepted us in the past. But when we were attacked by both sides, we had to use weapons to protect our regions.

Just note that my cousins are Arabs and they support LF and their father (arab) was a LF soldier and I have never heard them attacking Tashnag or any other Armenian. (that's why you really disappointed me with this article and replies).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, I was very shocked to read some of the replies and know that we (Armenians) are hated so much by fellow Christians in Lebanon.</p>
<p>I consider myself Lebanese Armenian and I&#8217;ve lived here all of my life and I have the Lebanese identity which means I&#8217;m just equal to any other Lebanese. </p>
<p>As you learn in history at school (12th grade), Lebanese were leaving the region when Armenians came here and most probably that&#8217;s the reason we were offered to be Lebanese. This means it was your decision at that time.</p>
<p>Most of the time I&#8217;m seeing your attacks towards the Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Tashnag). It&#8217;s not important to attack whoever doesn&#8217;t agree with you politically, just get this! We would have been your allies if Mr. Saad Hariri didn&#8217;t want to have total control on us which we refused and we all know that a political party alone can not reach a position in Lebanon and that&#8217;s why we had to ally with Aoun whose supporters are contributing with us and protecting our rights (I&#8217;ve heard FPMers talking in favor of Armenians many times in the university while there were no Armenian around) while when I write something about Armenian in a Future Movement forum, I get attacked from all the sides and they start protecting Turkey.</p>
<p>For the person who talked about Tashnag protesting in Lebanon against Turks. Remember, when Erdogan came to meet Sanioura, Henchag and Ramgavar united with Tashnag protested. But as we all know, Sanioura doesn&#8217;t listen to his allies (Henchag and Ramgavar).</p>
<p>By the way, I also know Henchag leaders (check the word Leaders once again) who support Aoun. So there&#8217;s nothing in it, everybody is free to support whoever (s)he wants.</p>
<p>About being racist. I&#8217;m not racist but I&#8217;m an extremist just like the Maronites, Shiites, Sunnites and the Durzis &#8230; I respect the other religion /race but I&#8217;m stuck to mine!<br />
Some examples about racism, most of the LFers that I know talk against Muslims (check political forums and you&#8217;ll know what I mean).</p>
<p>About the Lebanese civil war and the era that I don&#8217;t like to talk about cause I don&#8217;t want to it to happen again. But you made me say some words about it. A guy mentioned that we didn&#8217;t participate in the war and this means we are not Lebanese. Man, whoever participated in the war ruined the country! (open your eyes) and by not participating we just didn&#8217;t want to ruin a country which accepted us in the past. But when we were attacked by both sides, we had to use weapons to protect our regions.</p>
<p>Just note that my cousins are Arabs and they support LF and their father (arab) was a LF soldier and I have never heard them attacking Tashnag or any other Armenian. (that&#8217;s why you really disappointed me with this article and replies).</p>
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		<title>By: Armenian power</title>
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		<dc:creator>Armenian power</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 20:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Armenia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Armenia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Fenicito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fenicito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 20:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question: Why can't Lebanon be a Republic for all of its citizens? Why is it that Lebanese are always first, marouni, wulla sunni, wulla shia etc. etc.? Ana bia3taqd inno al-bashr armani bashr azim iktir.  But at the same time, why can't the Palestinians born in Lubnan be given citizenship? The Israelis gave citizenship to Jews regardless of their origin. 

If the Lebanese Christians are concerned about the ethnic/religious balance, then the government should make it easier for Lebanese descendants (there are millions all over the Americas) to become citizens.  God bless Lubnan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question: Why can&#8217;t Lebanon be a Republic for all of its citizens? Why is it that Lebanese are always first, marouni, wulla sunni, wulla shia etc. etc.? Ana bia3taqd inno al-bashr armani bashr azim iktir.  But at the same time, why can&#8217;t the Palestinians born in Lubnan be given citizenship? The Israelis gave citizenship to Jews regardless of their origin. </p>
<p>If the Lebanese Christians are concerned about the ethnic/religious balance, then the government should make it easier for Lebanese descendants (there are millions all over the Americas) to become citizens.  God bless Lubnan!</p>
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		<title>By: Tashnagtsagan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tashnagtsagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 08:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haroutioun yev Apo Avedis Nice posts!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haroutioun yev Apo Avedis Nice posts!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Apo Avedis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apo Avedis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to say to the person that carries the nickname "why" , that u accepted us and gave us the lebanese citizenship because of your own "masla7a" mesh kermel sawed 3youna..because armenian in the stability between muslims and christians... ba3den habibi bas kan samir bel sejen ..the LF's were demonstrating everywhere canada, france, USA...this means based on ur logic the lebanese living outside lebanon should forget thier identity and their case...shou hal logic.
i would like to say to waha wera.. the difference between armenians and palestinians is that armenians built the country and abided the rules and regulations of the country...mesh metel palestinians...ba3den habibi bayak iza ra7 3a USA or canada and spent 10 years there ma beya3tou their citizenship..3a hal ases all the lebanese should return back starting from brazil... i woild like to say for the one who said the i now know why bashir didn't like armenians..habibi armenians have dignity...if u were right with the idea of war.why did u stop..we didn't beliven in war...ento hajartu al christians men lebanon.. i would like to say for proud to be LF ...the time will come and u'll see...ya habibi na7na iza sala7na israel all we be afraid of us..khleset eyamkon..bye bye..i would like to see any power in the world who could destro this race of unimportant pll whose wars have all been fought and lost , whose litraure is not read and whose prayers ....God save lebanon, and armenia....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to say to the person that carries the nickname &#8220;why&#8221; , that u accepted us and gave us the lebanese citizenship because of your own &#8220;masla7a&#8221; mesh kermel sawed 3youna..because armenian in the stability between muslims and christians&#8230; ba3den habibi bas kan samir bel sejen ..the LF&#8217;s were demonstrating everywhere canada, france, USA&#8230;this means based on ur logic the lebanese living outside lebanon should forget thier identity and their case&#8230;shou hal logic.<br />
i would like to say to waha wera.. the difference between armenians and palestinians is that armenians built the country and abided the rules and regulations of the country&#8230;mesh metel palestinians&#8230;ba3den habibi bayak iza ra7 3a USA or canada and spent 10 years there ma beya3tou their citizenship..3a hal ases all the lebanese should return back starting from brazil&#8230; i woild like to say for the one who said the i now know why bashir didn&#8217;t like armenians..habibi armenians have dignity&#8230;if u were right with the idea of war.why did u stop..we didn&#8217;t beliven in war&#8230;ento hajartu al christians men lebanon.. i would like to say for proud to be LF &#8230;the time will come and u&#8217;ll see&#8230;ya habibi na7na iza sala7na israel all we be afraid of us..khleset eyamkon..bye bye..i would like to see any power in the world who could destro this race of unimportant pll whose wars have all been fought and lost , whose litraure is not read and whose prayers &#8230;.God save lebanon, and armenia&#8230;.</p>
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