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3elj wou 3allouja …

Posted by N10452

Does anyone remember those terms ?? they were used to Saddam’s men to describe the Imperialist Zionist Racist Fascit Criminal Americans who were invading Iraq .. ( Arabic translation for those terms available upon request).

Unfortunatelly, they describe what the Arab leaders really are .. not the Americans, and i am quite shocked that the Lebanese are resorting to the Arabs to fix their problems …

I mean lets be reasonable, if you wanna study for ur math test, you go ask your math teacher for help, not Abou Koko Malik el Falafel ! Similarly, if you wanna resolve your political problems, the last people you want to ask for help are the Arabs !

We asked for Arab interference in the 1970s to stop the Palestinians ? What did we get ? sermeye bi nee3na !

We went to Taef in 1990 to resolve our issues ? What did we get ? Box byiswa 3omerna !

And now we are going to Doha and the least i am expecting ( and excuse my terms but i ve had it) is a stick up in our asses !!

How the hell can Arab leaders, who probably dont know what democracy means, who never heard of human rights, who never graduated probably from any university resolve our 60 years old crisis ??

What interests those Arab leaders is screwing women in their harem, buying women, eating like pigs ( not the pigs though), building ugly castles and buying cars like children buy candy … They speak of religion and all they do is drink and get drugged ! They speak of diplomacy and politics and all they do is play with their toes in public !

What did the Arabs achieve in their whole history ?? Mabsouteenle bi Abu Bakr wou Abu Nawwas wou Abdel Hami Bay**to ?? What would have the Arabs become without oil ?

Of course there are exceptions, of course there are many open minded educated Arabs .. But this does not justify why we could depend on them to resolve our issues .. and the proof is the current Doha discusssions ..

Private jets, S500 Mercedes cars for everyone, expensive hotels, prestigious conference rooms, impressively expensive ugly 3abeyet, food that could feed all Africa … and the result is ??

More fights and deadlocks ..
How will Arabs resolve that issue ??? ask each for a price and sign checks ..

The question remains: Have our Lebanese leaders become like those Arab leaders ?? I say not only they became like them, but they mastered their ‘Arabic’ skills !

You want to resolve problems, the answer is in Lebanon and only in Lebanon.

PS: This is directed to the Arab leaders ( most of them), and not the people, so i hope i wont find an anonymous group tomorrow declaring jihad on me ..

Filed under: Editorials, Lebanon, Political
Posted by N10452 on 05.19.08 @ 11:37 pm |

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34 Comments. Add your own...

1. bashirist for life | May 19th, 2008 at 11:52 pm

We are doomed from the beginning. We are pissing into the wind. Those meetings are just a waste of time, nothing will change at least not for the good of the country.
2. JD DC | May 20th, 2008 at 12:05 am

r we asking for “2ouwet rade3 3arabiyye’” in Doha????!!!!!
“the answer is in Lebanon and only in Lebanon”.
ne7na 2ouwwet el rade3,
w2eza ma fi mahrab men 2ouwwet rade3, 2akid 2akid 2akid mech 3arabiyye’
3. Swe | May 20th, 2008 at 12:09 am

The name ARAB is a tool for leaders to gather people under one flag….the fundamentalist flag….”we against all others” and blame western civilisations for poverty, war, etc, etc…..the “problems” among the arab countries are not to be talked about….cause they are “arabs”/brothers and shit happens?! For example: war between countries like iraq and several countries, or as jordan and syria massmurdered palestinians…other palestinans came to Lebanon and what did they do?

Also while the leaders are billionairs, they are leaving the people poor, uneducated and illiterate so they trust everything their leaders say without having a critical mind….and if they do, they can´t say anything because there is no freedom.

And we all know from historybooks that Lebanon´s ancestors were not arabs….so stop calling yourself something else but lebanese.
4. Mickel | May 20th, 2008 at 1:54 am

Thanks man.

Facheytelle 5el2e..
5. micho | May 20th, 2008 at 3:20 am

dude, can u c how hopeless the leaders have become they are actually turning to the arabs for help i mean come on, i have to agree with N nth gd ever came out of them yet the beloved leaders still go there that is plain dumb. lets just hope, pray and beg it turns out better than what happened at taef.
6. Leb4Life | May 20th, 2008 at 4:08 am

Micho
if the leaders back in 89 listened to Aoun we wouldn’t have had to live with a bad taef agreement until now .
now in doha, rest ur mind because Aoun is there and he will definately not bargain over Christian rights no matter what. he is the only one who cares about Christian rights in this country.
7. Michele | May 20th, 2008 at 7:05 am

ARABS stands for
Arabs
R
All
Bull
Shitters
and excuse my French…
8. Michele | May 20th, 2008 at 7:06 am

And Hablé4life u are one of them!!!!

Wake up n grow up!
9. Johnny.B | May 20th, 2008 at 9:52 am

Leb4Life,

til7ass tizeh,,,, the biggest disaster to christians was aoun ,,, splitting them in 1989 and then when he came back from france …
10. Free | May 20th, 2008 at 10:35 am

johnnyb
a*ri b* k*ss emm*k akhou sh*rm00ta . why don’t u idiots know how to make a decent conversation? why do u always have to act like a militia?
Aoun unified the Christians who were lost between a few useles militias ya z*bb el ja7*sh.
looks like ma btefhamou ella bi hal manti2.
11. Free | May 20th, 2008 at 10:36 am

Michele
the only habli is u because u follow a militiaman.
12. Fuziyad | May 20th, 2008 at 11:24 am

Free…I have a question, let’s agree that aoun is not a militiamen, could we call him a warlord?

Unless I missed an episode and aoun was empowered by his high education, good manners and ability to rule countries…
13. Free | May 20th, 2008 at 12:03 pm

Fuziad
of course not . how could u call a prime minister and an army commander a warlord?
how could u call a patriotic leader a warlord?
u can not compare a patriotic leader to a warlord and a militiaman like ja3ja3 and jombi .
big difference.
looks like u missed on a major important episode here . Aoun is the most fitted man to rule the country .
reasons :
he has the most popularity.
he has the cleanest record.
he is patriotic which means he cares about Lebanon’s interests (especially Christians rights) more than anything else. proof: look what’s happening in doha. Aoun is asking for 8 Christian seats in beirut ashrafiyyi (shi3a agreed) and hariri and the christians of hariri and jombi refuse the offer.
why do they refuse the offer? 2 reasons : because it is offered by aoun and because they are scared for their interests. this brings us to a conclusion : Christian interests ja3ja3 and jmayyil interests.
14. Free | May 20th, 2008 at 12:05 pm

last sentence correction :
this brings us to a conclusion : Christian interests does not resemble ja3ja3 and jmayyil interests.
15. Fuziyad | May 20th, 2008 at 12:35 pm

Ya Free ya habibé get your facts straight…the discussion on beirut is wether the tashnag, a party led by an Iranian citizen, gets to choose the christian MP’s…
16. Michele | May 20th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

Ya Free the only free about is u are a BRAINFREE
17. Michele | May 20th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

Furthermore ya brainFREE inta, how could u call urself FREE when u follow blindly a senile traitor corrupted man like ur AOUN?
Seriously?
It’s not because u need to have a master in order to validate ur insignificant existence means that we all follow as well someone.

Come think of it i should call myself free cz i don’t follow any person but i pursuie a dream and a cause which is the full independance of Lebanon and its prosperity.

I’m sure u wont get any of the word i said n u’ll get back with even a stupid answer but i still hope that u z orange have some sense left in ur brain…
18. fad14 | May 20th, 2008 at 6:13 pm

A response to N:

The biggest problem is that Christians are not united and before that is accomplished, we are not going to see anything good coming their way.
19. Arze | May 20th, 2008 at 6:44 pm

N those Arabs that u called idiots have made wonders of their countries !

They are building the most important cities in the world !

You know what i think sometimes ? i wish we could give them our democracy and have their wealth !!!! and dont tell me its oil…Dubai wasnt built on oil !

Spare me this and look what they are doing of themselves in the Gulf and look where we are now !
and ye sthey can teach us ! we are kids compared to them ! we are wrothless comparing to what they are ! they can teach 10 lebanon not only one….
20. Arze | May 20th, 2008 at 6:50 pm

Johnny.B

The biggest mistake was handling the LF for Geagea

The 2nd biggest mistake was letting Geagea go out with the DOUNIEH group , who slaugtered the army in the north
21. Elie.F. | May 20th, 2008 at 9:47 pm

FREE,
leik habibi you were talking to johnny B and told him that it looks like we only understand in the language you talked to him, i’m an LF supporter but i totally refuse what u said and you are wrong that we all have to be talked to the same language, for the christ of the christians if we still beleive let us rise the level of the conversation so we can all cope with each other and discuss our opinions in a way that suits us. This goes to you also Johnny B.
With respect.
22. Johnny.B | May 20th, 2008 at 9:55 pm

Arze,

mmmm ma fina nenkor enno ma kein fi aghlat in the handling, and maybe one of the biggest was that hakim 3taraf bell dawleh w sallem slei7na, maybe he should’ve done like hezballah is doing now, yimkin ma kein l-soureh tma2ta3 fina w sara2na 3a madar 15 years.

about your second comment, yes you have a point. el-harireh wanted to get ther “commission” out of that deal.

Free,
your not worth a comment.
23. Leb4Life | May 21st, 2008 at 12:16 am

johnny b
u forgot to mention one thing . other than the regret of surrendering your weapons (which brought distruction to the Christian community), u should regret ur hakim helping the syrians enter east beirut to destroy Aoun.
Aoun’s defeat was a defeat to all Christians.
and look at it now . history is repeating itself :
in 1989 and 1990, the syrians and the muslims used ja3ja3 to weaken Aoun and therefore the Christians of Lebanon. Aoun was defeated and he went to excile and after that ja3ja3 went to prison .
now in the late 2000s, the same group are using ja3ja3 again to weaken Aoun and therefore the Christians of Lebanon . maybe they will succeed but u should think of what they will do to ur hakim next . prison? maybe. maybe worse.
24. JD DC | May 21st, 2008 at 1:33 am

People,
“Now in the late 2000’s” Hezeb Allah, is armed to the teeth and ready to use his weapons as means of coercion to force his will on the rest of the country.
What do you do? Become an ally with HA? or kick the shit out of him?
People,
This is Lebanon neither Tehran nor Riyadh.
Christians, unite and start considering the Federal, decentralized state, we want OUR Lebanon, with a TRUE democracy not the lie of a democracy we have now (Tawefou2iyye’!!!! and shit like that…). We want a strong Christian army to preserve our borders, our values, and our beliefs.
7akim, start rebuilding you Forces, and GMA unite with the Lebanese Forces to build the only state that will ever accept you as president of the republic (if you were to be elected); The Lebanese Christian State, preserved and protected by the Lebanese forces.
25. Leb4Life | May 21st, 2008 at 2:10 am

JD
u make me laugh when u talk about democracy .
u ewet are the last to talk about democracy.
if u value democracy then ur hakim should sit home and give up politics because democracy said its word in the last elections : we do not want militias . we want free patriotic leaders and that’s what we chose.
26. Leb4Life | May 21st, 2008 at 2:13 am

hehe it’s so funny when u ask Aoun to unite with a 3isabi . soooooo funny.
sorry but Aoun is not a drug dealer or a militiaman .
27. JD DC | May 21st, 2008 at 2:27 am

Leb4life,
What is funny is that Aoun is ready to be an Ally with PURE Terrorism; HA, and not his Christian brothers and sisters.
I m sorry but I m not laughing.
28. micho | May 21st, 2008 at 4:57 am

free(comment 13)
just a few thing’s: all the LFers he killed during the Ilgha war are wat or haw manon christians?
helping hobaika when the LF got him trapped?(he would never have made it alive out of there if it wasnt for aoun)
and about the popularity part all i can say is we will c next elections(or maybe thats what he is trying to avoid)
and finally everything aoun says and does is a bad way to improve his popularity among the rest of the lebanese since he knows he lost it christian wise, listen to his speeches(ni7na badna nzabet l intikhabet la kil l lebanese) b4 it was the christians.
w hayde 1 final comment last time he was the highest ranking goverment official he destroyed the charkiyeh, now u want him to be president to what wage war on USA maybe who knows… lli jarab mjarab 3a2lo mkharab.
29. Leb4Life | May 21st, 2008 at 7:46 am

JD
your information is not accurate at all .
when aoun went back to lebanon the first thing he did was visit ur hakim in jail in order to close the past and start fresh united . but ur hakim rejected thinking that he will be out of jail as a hero and he will beat aoun in the elections even before he is out of jail (smart to keep him in jail during elections because he thinks he will get more sympathy).
anyway, the elections happened and IF U HAVE A GOOD MEMORY , UR HAKIM WAS ALLIES WITH HEZBALLA AND HARIRI AND JOMBI ALL OF THEM IN TA7ALOF EL ROBA3I AGAINST AOUN.
so JD please tell me who left his Christian brothers and allied with terrorosm?
then the formation of the government came. aoun wanted to join based on the fact that he represents christians of leb. but the lf allies back then said no we don’t want a strong christian in power . we would rather have weak christians in power (lf and ertet shehwan) and give all aoun’s seats to lahoud (although they keep swearing at lahoud and they say he is bad) .
so JD please tell me who is against his brothers and sisters? is it aoun or the others?
oh one more thing JD : have u read the latest doha agreement talks? aoun was the only one fighting for christian rights and he was the one who made the others agree on the new electoral role which will make christians better off. meanwhile, ur hakim and his 14 march christian friends were sitting all the time in the hotel reception waiting to hear news from here and there while the true leb leaders are negotiating upstairs.
30. roch | May 21st, 2008 at 10:21 am

No Leb4Life,
Aoun was fighting for extra seats in beirut, not Christian rights
He would be fighting for Christian rights if he mentioned anything about the christians in the south, whose votes count nothing under the hezbo dominance.
He is only pointing to the beiruty christians problems, and blind to the others?
31. Free | May 21st, 2008 at 10:33 am

roch
really?
how come?
when aoun faught for the 1960 electoral role he faught for all lebanon . take for example kada2 jezzine . now the christians of jezzine will be able to elect their own reps . and jezzine is mostly christians . so shi3a vote will not affect it .
zgharta for example will be able to elect its own reps and it won’t be affected by tripoli and danniyyi sunnis .. and so on .
so i don’t know what ur reasons are but do not accuse the man of something he didn’t do just because ur hakim couldn’t do anything.
and don’t say he didn’t mention anything about the rest of the christians rights other than beirut because this is nonsense.
yes he was fighting for extra seats in beirut because hariri and his allies are concentrating on taking all beirut seats including ashrafiyyi and arman. aoun said no . what belongs to christians and arman does not belong to hariri and his frefeet.
so instead of attacking aoun’s patriotic actions go ask ur hakim and his friends what they have been doing in doha .
32. Free | May 21st, 2008 at 10:36 am

rosh
one more thing :
how come u are concerned about shi3a vote dominance in south and u are not concerned about the sunni vote dominance in north? shoo nseet how ur hakim got his 3 newweb in north? nseet how nayla maawad won in zgharta where she got 6000 votes only compared to sleiman franjiyyi who got 67000?
33. Free | May 21st, 2008 at 10:37 am

rosh
also, u can now say bye bye to the aktariyyi because with the new role u won’t have the shi3a vote of baabda and alley to give u the majority.
34. Fuziyad | May 21st, 2008 at 2:34 pm

Ya free ya habibé…of course the christians voted hijacked by shiias is more danegrous than by sunnies….

If you look at the macropolitics and compare this crisis to the ones that preceded it in lebanon, you can say that the sunnies have joined the christians on their political project while the shiias became the leaders of the anti-lebanese project…

Thus of course the tehmish is not the same in the 2 cases…

and by the way, mabrouk to aoun, he will never be president and will get the maronite seat of deir el ahmar and if lucky the orthodox seat if hasbaya and marejyoun remained merged…not bad…may be with the arman and the jamaa islamiya(his next ally) they may get to 8 seats!!!!yihaaaaaaaaaaaaa