Who killed Riad Abi Khattar ?
Posted by N10452When will Sleiman Frangieh apologize to the family of Riad ??
When will Michel Aoun apologize ??
Who shoot this unarmed man and killed him during the Black Tuesday ? Who sent his thugs to the street to block roads and cause riots & chaos ??
Just a reminder for those who seem to forget what Sleiman Frangieh did only 1 year ago ..
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1. Rodge | September 23rd, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Only great men, great personnalities have the guts to apologize, and we saw that through the different phases of history, whther in Lebanon or elsewhere.
So in this case I find it hard, even impossible, for those 2 thugs low level disgraceful persons (Aoun & Frangieh) to apologize, or even to think of taking such a step.
Bashar and Hassouna won’t allow.
2. Anonymous | September 23rd, 2008 at 8:50 pm
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=5605
N, is this true?
Shou 3endak ma3loumet bi hal khsous shreek ?!
3. Mickel | September 23rd, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Anonymous
This news has been circling for a while.
I guess that the Syrians are that desperate to come back to Lebanon.
They would probably use the excuse of protecting the Alawites.
4. Maximus | September 23rd, 2008 at 9:43 pm
helo ktir
three years later, here they come again
what have we been doing during these three years? akel hawa
hadro hakoun ya rif’3, iza fet el souré 3al shmel, by ay 3zer ken, ya3né sakatat al dawla. How come the army denied it than transmit to us the official syrian version (anti-smuggling), leish el smaggling in the north aw in the bekaa, shou 3am ta3mel el hajjana? da3it se3it el mo3awamé “An jad hal marra!
5. ja3far | September 23rd, 2008 at 10:05 pm
you know maximus … i read a report few days ago about the way syrian situation have shifted in the last three years . you know , from a real big mess to the great international situation they are having know ( you think the french and turk presidents will go there without the american welcoming?) the writer was asking how the syrian were able to do that?who should syria thank for such a shift in 3 years…
the conclusion was that they should thank the M14 leaders… they were so stupid they didnt know how to use the situation…
there worst mistake was by encoriging ikhwan and salafists in the north ( by Hariri ) thinking they have made someone stand against the shia… while such a salafist gained quick welcoming from al quaida ( u heard them?) which raised a red alarm in europe and the states …
guess who is asked by the world to interfere so that al quaida will not get well established in the north…( why u think harriri ran to tripoli ?)
syria is saying thank you M14 Big big time…
salam
6. kezballah | September 23rd, 2008 at 10:45 pm
ja3far what happened in Tripoli is not from M14 not even the Hariri part of M14 (definitely not the LF part of M14), what happened in Tripoli is from Saudi Arabia, M14 can not stop it if Saudi wants to do it, and now Syria is sending a message to Saudia because it did not stop yet. Hariri trip to Tripoli will not stop anything if Saudia want it to continue.
And ja3far you should not be happy about it because if M8 profit from Syrian comeback now you will pay for it later.
7. ja3far | September 23rd, 2008 at 11:09 pm
kezballah… u know harriri and saudi are one… i said M14 give some credibility back to syria in the world…
of course i will not be happy if syria came back.,, i suffered from there presence too….but i dont think they will do it because they are in a much better position now..
salam
8. Maximus | September 23rd, 2008 at 11:13 pm
Ya Ja3far, you are still in the same delirium
When the syrians left lebanon, we had to build our country, democratically. Guess who blocked the emergence of a free democratic state? hara3to dino lal balad: mouzaharat, e3tissamat, houroub, tadmir, eghtyelet, tafjirat, jebto el sunii liberal and moderate bel ard and you helped the radical sunni to emerge. el souré metel 3adto, bi walli3 el nar webyéjé yo3rod khadaeto el etfa3jé. This time, it won’t work. Khaliné khabrak khabryé, we gave you a chance in 1990 to build a country, sunnis and shiia and druze, khentouna wrehto ma3 el souré tnaklo birabna. We gave you another chance in 2005. If it dos not work beither, believe me, thi stime we will not accept to live under syrian or shi or sunni hegemony.
Iza khouyérna bayna el horiya wal 3aysh el moshtarak, nakhtaro al Horya.
9. ja3far | September 23rd, 2008 at 11:28 pm
you found the right word Maximus
AL HORYA … you should understand us then very well…check this link .. you will understand the way we see ourselves
http://www.wa3ad.org/index.php?show=news&action=article&id=27577
salam
10. Delta | September 24th, 2008 at 4:01 am
question to jaafar
if syria invades lebanon would hizbulla defend lebanon if not what kinda moukawame is that if its is directed only against the jews ?
rip rafi2 khatar
11. Patrick | September 24th, 2008 at 4:58 am
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1861.htm
N10452,
don’t know if you saw this august 28 al-arabiya report, but salafis from tripoli claim they (and others, such as marada) were trained by hezbollah and syrian instructors who want them to fight almustaqbal.
12. rima | September 24th, 2008 at 6:43 am
Unfortunately
I am convinced more than ever before in my life…that peace in this messed up country of ours can only be achieved through military power…don’t blame HA anymore they took advantage of the situation and played it smart and heck 14th March played the Ghadi style in the jungle of Lebanon…You cannot prevail without alliances…we have got to do it or else let stop all that nonsense…we have to use this army or just dismantle it..no need for it…and transform it into a welfarwe organisation…What is law without a sword????????????
13. MOHANAD | September 24th, 2008 at 7:06 am
u r all so funny !!! u r all so paranoid !!! but heck this sh!t u r all l3b@n3s3
14. kezballah | September 24th, 2008 at 7:19 am
Mohanad you are representing Syria on the blog try to say something intelligent and argue with logic.
By the way I am watching 2al 7out a Syrian show on LBC it is well done I think your Movie industry has a good future.
15. MOHANAD | September 24th, 2008 at 7:36 am
kezballah
i was until someone responded to one of my blogs using his anti syrian instinct not logic so i thought is this place is like that than what the heck ???
and yah man the saudi oil money is flowin into syria so they got the money and we got the brains then y not to make good sh*t if uknow what i mean !! lol
16. Delta | September 24th, 2008 at 7:36 am
thanks rima
jaafar ba3dene nater jawebak
17. Delta | September 24th, 2008 at 7:37 am
Mohanad ur stupid as hell
18. MOHANAD | September 24th, 2008 at 7:41 am
delat r u tryin to be ma next vic
19. Rima | September 24th, 2008 at 8:46 am
Delta
Why are you thanking me?
20. Michele | September 24th, 2008 at 9:24 am
On Jaafar’s link #9 i read:
لكمْ كان الطلب عزيزاً عليه، ففي أوج تعبه، يخدم نفسه بنفسه، ويستحي أن يطلب شربة ماء ولو من أولاده الصغار، الذين ربّاهم على المبادئ المحمدية ـ الحسينية. وكما سعى لتأمين حياة كريمة لهم، وأمّن لهم العلم، زرع في حنايا نفوسهم حبّ الجهاد، فهو من حين لآخر كان يُلبس ابنه بذلته العسكرية التي شارك فيها بأغلب عمليات المقاومة الإسلامية، وقد أوصى بها إليه بعد استشهاده..
Is this how we are raising the next generation? that they can only survive by killing themselves for a delusional cause?
What happened to the education system that once we were so proud of? Are we going to see more genius Lebanese in the future like the ones we already had?
Is the Hezbollah really represent the Lebanese level and standard?
BTW, when is it going to become a Lebanese resistance n no more an Islamic resistance?
Sorry Jaafar, but we care about our children and we do want to provide them wz a great future by giving them great education n teaching them the love of their nation versus the culture of death that Hezb encourages at all time…
21. ja3far | September 24th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Delta … Nassrallah promissed we will resist against any invadors… i trust him.. if he didnt keep his promiss… you can make your lebanese resistance and i will join you in …
mabssout?
salam
22. Fuziyad | September 24th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Ja3far, concerning the previous post and with no kidding, what do you think hassouna will do if syrians come back? (provided they are not coming to get him) I guess he will ask you guys to start putting bashars’ pictures in beirut, ah no sorry these were the kawmiyé ma hek??
23. Rima | September 24th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Fuziad and Delta
The tricky question is what do we do if Syria turns against HA to gain control over Lebanon or to please the West…do we stand by Syria against HA or with HA against Syria? Is being neutral an option???????
24. Delta | September 24th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
to jaafar what i really understood from ur reply is that you dont really trust the word of nasralla in resisting cause he might not and you would join me in my resistance just for the sake of it.any way thanks for replying.
Rima i thanked u for a valuable deep thinking and my answer on ur 23 is that syria will never turn against hizbulla but might tur its back to them so if so i thinkhizbulla would negotiate better with us and humble himself.
25. Delta | September 24th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
to the garbage bag MoHaNad please do not make me ur next vic i am shaking like a leaf
26. Rima | September 24th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Delta
Thanks…Regarding Syria and HA, I agree with you I didn’t think about it that way.
27. Rima | September 24th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
ساركوزي للاسد: تورط سوريين في اغتيال الحريري لا يعني اتهام النظام السوري
leik shou hal hakiii leik…Tfouhhh aleik ya Sarkouzi…
28. Fuziyad | September 24th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Rima, the question you raised is very important and when I asked myslef about it first time when mloukiyeh was killed I realised that this in itself was the defeat of the march14 dream…
The Syrians succeeded in getting the lebanese so angry at each other that they end up hating it less and sometimes prefer it to the internal enemy…However, eventough I was aware of the trap I couldn’t make my mind, after all the syrians are secular at least…jameel el sayyed shaves, wafic safa doesn’t, bashar el assad aspires to some kind of modernity khamenei doesn’t…
Then on may 7, I made up my mind, as far as I can remember Syrian forces never burnt TV’s ( they have shut some tough) and to me what HA did to Beirut was probably worth than the israelies and syrians had done, at least in terms of humilitation and destruction of its spirit. I also sometimes think, as stupid as it may sound that the lebanese just can not coexist and were never able too, that lebanon is undoubtebly a failed state and can technically can not be divided and that may be the only way to live in peace would be to have an arbitrator between us who will have the decision power…after all for most people life was much easier before 2005…
Bass akid, am not convinced by that yet and I think that eventough the road is long we may get there one day…
On the other side, I agree with delta, if syria leaves them, HA(iran) will probably be clever enough to know that need to reconcile with the other lebanese if they want to have a chance of survival…in that case HA will put its eveil plan on hold and will compromise…in this case will be better to stand with them against syria…
btw, walid jumblatt made up his mind on this issue and is betting on Iran, others like Micho suleiman or some in m14 took the oppposite bet and would rather get things softer with syria to kick the iranian revolution out of lebanon
29. yaser | September 24th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Syrian troops will not go back to Lebanon again , we (Syrians ) wouldn’t allow it , so chill out, and don’t worry about that prospect;)
30. Fuziyad | September 24th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
chou hal yaser hayda, chou you we, the syrians, wouldn’t allow it?? will anyone ask yr opinion?? is syria a democracy now and noone told us??????????????????????????????????????????”
31. Mickel | September 24th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Oh it’s like that now, N?
32. Mickel | September 24th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Yaser
You just made me laugh.
33. N10452 | September 24th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
whats like that ya Mickel ?
34. ja3far | September 24th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Delta… i meant i am with nassrallah because i trust him and i believe he lebarated my country…if ever he shifted, and went against my believes i am ready to put my hands in yours in a lebanese resistance ..
salam
35. ja3far | September 24th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
Fuziad… with all my respect.. you have lot of wrong information in your head… i understand that you oppose HA with your ideology and believes.. and this is normal… but dont base your decisions on wrong information…
The future TV has been entered by HA who took Hard discs and informations for some investigations reasons of their own and then give it to the army … no real distruction was made…
On the other hand the old building of Future tv on Raochie has been shifted to an office for al mustaqbal since years. one of the longuest buttles of beirut ( 12 Hours) happened in that area between Mustaqbal and Quaemi. when al quaemi took the building they burned it and put their flag to revenge what al mustaqbal did in al arabia university accidents, when they burned quami office and raised their flag…
am not defending them for that .. but this is the real story of what happened…
salam
36. Fuziyad | September 24th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
habibé ja3far, balla propaganda plse…
Future TV was shut down by force after a political decision of HA, it was in no case a mistake or anything similar. After the TV was shut the journalist kept receiving open threat directly from HA high ranking responsibles for them not to start broadcasting again…
Nothing that happenned in beirut in may can be blamed on kawmié, why not amal kamen?? you know well enough that kel kaf ndarab needed a HA greenlight
anyway what is suprising about it?? still now HA is asking for the controle of medias…btw after soujoud incident and the article in l’orient le jour, wafic safa called michel eddé (who is the owner of l’orient) and told him litereraly, telly our journlists to shut up or we will shut them down. After that they ask their orange puppet to also asking for a ban of the free press
37. ja3far | September 24th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
y3ioune fuziad… reread what i wrote… i was talking about the burned building u mentioned .. it was not a TV.. it was an office for al mustaqbal…yes HA entered the Future tv and they made them stop broadcasting… but they did not burned it down…in case of war you stop the communication of your enemy.. that what make it a clean operation..in a way…imagine if future was broadcasting;) …
regarding the l orient de jour story
again reread what i wrote..base your decision on real information/./ not on ” haki wleed ”
salam
38. Fuziyad | September 25th, 2008 at 12:24 am
ok ja3far, burnt TV or not burnt TV, I have a better argument now, HA supporters, even those who pretend to be civilized and moderate business people think it is ok to shut their opponenets media. The conclusion is easy, HA is a fascist party supported by a bunch of intolerant tatar who are as much a threat to the modernity and unity of lebanon that the syrian baas. Kifné ma3ak???
Concerning the michel eddé story believe it or not but I have this info from very reliable sources who got it directly from michel eddé himself, but anyway, does it matter?? it’s halal to kill journalists no?????????????????????????????’
39. Rima | September 25th, 2008 at 12:24 am
God bless Jaafar but the man is FAKE I found it hard to trust him…especially when he avoids some questions like why Hassouna the scumbag said that NAhr el Bared was “khat Ahmar” when the army was fighting fateh el Islam? Oh maybe they weren’t terrorists at that time!!!!!!!
40. Rima | September 25th, 2008 at 12:33 am
I am sure that the 14th of MArch did a great favor to HA by kicking Syria out of Lebanon. This way HA did not have to fight with their own ally but just thank him in the “shoukran souriya” speech: Hassouna meant shoukran souriya your mission accomplished fri2ouna bi riha tayybeh…HA/Iran see Syria as their competitor in Lebanon at least economically and politically…If they can have the whole pie why accept a small piece. Hold on! this does not mean that they did not cooperate fully with the Syrians to undermine and destroy the 4th of March and I still think they covered and blessed all assassinations…Anyway, Syria is not our best option even if it turns against HA…they are both evil…standing by one evil against the other will be a deadly mistake…
41. ja3far | September 25th, 2008 at 12:34 am
Fuziad ;;; i dont think you are so naive to make such an argument …give me a brake,,media is a partof the war …rember what did the american do as soon as they went to baghdad ? they had there tanks target palestine hotel were all the journalists stayed… do u remeber? the israeli planes demolished completely anything related to ha media… at least the HA were civilised and shut it down and gave the key to the army..the message was : as long as there is fights on the street you are not allowed to broadcast your propaganda… when the actions ended, they went back to air..
habibi, safa will not call ede … kaber 3aklak ,,, if a journalist want to present himself as important he will make stories…dont be so naive.. you are more clever than that.. we both know it…
salam
42. Rima | September 25th, 2008 at 12:36 am
Leik Jaafar ala min am tidhak inta shou mfakkirna wleid houn? Al shou kawmiyyeh ALLLL…you are all a bunch of scumbags
“one of the longuest buttles of beirut ( 12 Hours) happened in that area between Mustaqbal and Quaemi. when al quaemi took the building they burned it and put their flag to revenge what al mustaqbal did in al arabia university accidents, when they burned quami office and raised their flag…”
43. ja3far | September 25th, 2008 at 12:43 am
rima..ya rima
i will tell you something ..bass between you and me ..the sunnies in lebanon never had the gots to fight …during the lebanese war they had always used the palastinians to fight their war … do you know how long it took amal during the war to end al morabitoun? 6 hours …
nassrallah is smarter then you think… much smarter.. he knew he won the hearts of the palastinians with such a speech…the palestians will not fight with al mustaqbal when needed .. comprenes?
and finaly, i dont think that it was a smart moove to fight the war of others using the lebanese army… we lost lot of martyrs in that war went because of the stupidity of fare3 al ma3loumat…i realy hope it ended then …
salam
44. Rima | September 25th, 2008 at 1:10 am
Jaafar
Are you serious? Fateh el islam attacked innocent soldiers on their way home and massacred them and you are telling me “i dont think that it was a smart moove to fight the war of others using the lebanese army” …leik shou beik shi 3am titzekka aleyeh…innou yaani if Fateh el Islam did the same to HA fighters would Nasrallah talk about red lines…don’t BS about NAssra gaining the heart of Palestinians!!!!
Anyway,el haki ma3ak a waste of time
45. Michele | September 25th, 2008 at 8:39 am
No no no no!!!!
Is Jaafar for real???!!!!!
Does he think we are dumb or is he the one who is actually dumb for saying the stupidity above???!!!
Ya 7aram!!!!!!!!
This guy is truly living in Lalaland!!!!!!!
46. ja3far | September 25th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
rima.. you keep surprising me … dont you ever read or watch news… you sound like someone who just listen to people talks…
3anyni
1- dont take an accident out of the context it happened in…
2- dont punish people for the mistakes of other..
salam
47. sadem | September 25th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
jaafar
really u r a little baby so bas yehko lekbar lewled b fouto b nemo ok w ma bya3to ra2youn b chi ma byefhamo fi
salammmmm
48. Rima | September 25th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Jaafar your news are always malghoumeh…mine are not…and that is a big difference…
Cheers
49. ja3far | September 25th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
rima..you dont know what is happening around you … that is why you will receive a surprise after a surprise of the political development
wait and see…
Sadem ..hahahahaha
salam
50. Rima | September 25th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Sure I am not moukhabaratti and have no connection to political parties and meetings…but at least I have the ability and the courage to think for myself and make up my own mind with no bribes!!!…
51. Fuziyad | September 25th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Ja3far, Safa did call Eddé…why do you say safa wouldn’t call eddé enno 3amo wafic moustawa a3la men 3ammo michel??
52. sadem | September 25th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
jaafar
enno i want to ask u a simple question ok
enno la aymta badkoun dalo tchoufo l achi li b3ayn ghayrkoun w ma btantebho lal khachabi li b3aynkou.
3ala koul hal nehna kel l rife2 b ouwet mna”ref enno l kil w bidoun tamyez l kil bikhafouna w b habouna w chou ma “melna mana mkhalsin ma3koun kilkoun sawa achi lafi
mokhtasar moufik fe23ilkoun 7osrmi b3aynkoun w law mahma 3lito w chadayto a adayto marah tousalo la natoufi zghiri mena b kil chi ok
salamat ya baby jaafar heheheheh
53. ja3far | September 25th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Fuziad …safa willnot call edde to threat him… kaber 3aklak ya zalami.. this is not the way things happen… khida mini :)…
salam
54. ja3far | September 25th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
sadem… dahaktini waena 3ayan ..hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahah
55. Fuziyad | September 25th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
Ja3far, hajé ba2a to play it you are the super well informed who knows it all because you beleong to HA. I know many of your kind who didn’t even know who mloukiyeh was when he was killed….
Trust me, I am much more informed than you might think, being the son of one of those who are on your hit list…Things happened just as I said: wafic safa called personnally michel eddé just as mr safa himself threatened the gov before may 7…
56. Mickel | September 25th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
You deleted my comment.
57. ja3far | September 25th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
fuziad… let me tell u something and then u conclude…
before 7 May there were too many journalists who spoke about HA in an even worst way then ede. these journalists have had body guards appointed by al Harriri and who lived in the security zone around qraytem…
in 7 may the area falled in the hand of HA and the body guards ran away…how many of these journalists was killed by HA? how many were even phisically hit ? no body..
so kaber 3aklak… safa is not the one to call ede… and HA made it clear they will sue l orient de jour for making such propaganda… halae weither u want to believe itor not.. it is up to u …
salam
58. Fuziyad | September 26th, 2008 at 12:00 am
uff thank you ja3four and my tks to the islamic republic iran for not killing the journalists outright during 7 may events( samir kassir w gebran tueni are not enough??), chou ra2yak kamen tmanen enno you didn’t kill ammar houri or the mufti kabbani but only “assaulted” their houses.
HA will sue l’orient for what??? so HA shoots the lebanese army and then sue the one who dare saying it?? walla mahdoumin…
59. Mickel | September 26th, 2008 at 3:01 am
Ja3far
Ya 3amme choo mne7 ento, you didn’t kill the reporters. I guess burning down FutureTV was enough
.
And it’s okay if you sue L’oient because that way a court will decide who’s right — just as long as you don’t burn their building to ashes.
60. ja3far | September 26th, 2008 at 11:58 am
ya3ni fuziad … there are facts .. there are hakee wleed wa propagnadas..
facts: when beirut was under our control.. none of the journalists was even hit..
hakee wleed: your answer and Mickel answers number 58 and 59…
salam
61. Fuziyad | September 26th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Ja3far, does burning Mohammaed Salam house count?? again we have to thank you for not raping his wife…3an jad shourafa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
btw, I have the impression that HA leadership are trying to appease things…are you expecting an Israeli attack??
62. ja3far | September 26th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Fuziad…achraf al nass
the plan is there…dont u think?
salam
63. Fuziyad | September 26th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
plan for what?? to conquer the never defeated hill ya3né??
64. ja3far | September 26th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
it is a balance …if they believe they can brake the balance they will try…
salam
65. Fuziyad | September 26th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
are we talking about the same thing??
That would be the greatest gift you could make us before elections?? but I believe yr bosses in qom are clever enough to know that…
66. ja3far | September 26th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
if the israelies think they can brake the balance ..doesnt mean they are thinking right… things will brake on their heads this time.. this is a promiss i believe in…
trust me..betting on them will make you pay very heavy..that you should now
salam
67. Fuziyad | September 26th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
uff la2 ya ja3four we misunderstood each other, wasn’t betting on Israel, not my style, my family was allready confronting israel when yours were throwing rice at them, chou bek?? nsina??
When you said ahsraf el ness and plan, and thought you were talking about ashrafieh, the never defeated hill…
Concerning Israel I believe they won’t attack hizzies again before they get guarantees from syria to close the boarders…but who knows? those syrian troops on the boarder might be one more of the advance payments of bicho…who knows?? may be some know and this is why Mohammed Raad turned from bull to cow…after all, you know well that in 2006 if there wasn’t mouqawama siyassiya you would still be crying by now?? chou nsina?? 7 points plan with mohammed fneish sitting in the room and wondering why a divine victorious should capitulate??? may be hassouna explained him since that eventough you can fight you just can’t hold too long…but apparently he didn’t tell you. NOW YOU KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
68. ja3far | September 26th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Fuziad 3ayni.. i know your family were yassar one day… that is why you are a logical person..not like too many here
bass my father was assasinated by a car bomb in 1981 so ma tzayed 3laye … mich baynetna ..
habibi, if the isralies had one 1 % hope they can distroy the hA they would have continued .. i hope you ( other wise i will be very disapointed of u ) that israel wanted to stop since the first week and it was the states who was pushing them to continue.. if u didnt u didnt know.. now u know… and if we werent able to hold for another week, the israeli couldnt continue for one day… if u didnt know .. now u know…
regarding syria… dont build a home in the clouds
salam
69. Fuziyad | September 26th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Sorry for your father Ja3far.
Undoubtebly it wasn’t an easy task for the israelies to wipe out HA but no doubt either that they had the capacity to continue and hit stronger. As you know in 1982 the israelies sent 120′000 soldiers in 2006 10′000…but they still can mobilize 120′000 if they need…They could have hit much harder and eventually(or certainly) one of these days they will if your friends keep giving them excuses…HA fought very well and was well prepared while the isrealies were undoubtebly unprepared eventough you guys keep saying that that war was planned (tab ma ya 3amé ma fhemna, or they had prepared for it or they didn’t want it as they knew they couldn’t win it NOT BOTH!!!!) But just as I have the intellectual honesty to recognize that you have to recognize that a very good job was done on the diplomatic front and as you probably know the negotiations on the 1701 in ny took days and there was a fierce battel between on one side the lebanese and french delegation and on the other Mr Bolton and his little mates of the israeli lobby. The israelies DID NOT WANT to end the war this way and were more than willing to continue and with all due respect to the brave fighters it’s not ali and hussein who stopped them. Also you have to acknowledge that in lebanon before the lebanese delegation flew to ny HA and Sanioura’s team set together and agreed on the 7 points, most of which being clearly concessions from HA, things they would have NEVER accepted if not under pressure…and in my tiny little brain you don’t make concessions when you are winning.
Last but not least I have never built a home on syrian clouds…all those who did broke their nose one day, you guys did wballateto but clouds remain clouds and the baasists traitors…just to understand better what you are saying, who do you think killed mloukiyeh or the suleiman who was a high ranking syrian connection with hizb??
70. ja3far | September 26th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Fuziad…you need to understand that the military strategies have changed between 1982 and 2006. In year 2006 the israerlies war strategies were based on the american success in iraque..i.e. to use your airfore to the maximum to make your enemy collapse…
10,000 air attck in the south are almost the double of the one used in iraque if u know…
israel has used 40,000 ground troups … 10,000 only the last few days in air commandos.. they used 200,000 tank bomb in south lebanon…
all western reports talk about the plans made by israel to attack lebanon… and ask your family if they had ever needed excuses before to attack.. they will tell you about their excuse in 1982…
Israel had targets from the war.. as none of these targets was achievied, they tried to get at least diplomatic success..we dont want the war to continue for ever 1701 was reached…
regarding who assasinated the officier… just look at the files he was following.. it was more then HA link… you will now.. dont look through one lens though
salam
71. Rima | September 29th, 2008 at 7:49 am
Fuziad #69 great reply
I am so amazed by your patience and ability to refute twisted and fabricated arguments in cold blood
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