Another sectarian fight and another innocent victim. Georges Abou Madi was murdered two days ago by thugs coming from Chiah ( HA & Amal regions ).

Ironically enough, he was an FPM supporter which put HA & Michel Aoun in an awkward position.

Nonetheless, the issue here is not whether we should take revenge or not, or whether it is the right time to score more points against Aoun.

Sami Gemayel came out with an idiotic statement today asking the police to do its job or and i am quoting him “let us come back to protecting ourselves”

What Christians should learn from this incident and many others is that the only way to stopping such things is not rearming the thugs, but integrating them and other Christian youth into the ISF & army.

Badna el dawoule ta3mil cheghla ..
Badna nen2ebir nfout 3al hal dawoule !

I don’t care if Sami has 200 bodyguards or Samir Geagea has 5000 ones etc …
Those are more useful to Geagea & Sami and others inside the state and its institutions not in Maarab or Bekfaya.

The Christian parties’ only salvation is going back to the institutions and strenghtening their roles. Your country will not do anything for you if you don’t believe in it.

Put the thugs in the institutions and keep them away from the streets. Killing Samer Hanna caused FPM the elections in Batroun, why ?
Because an army officer was killed, not because an M14er was killed.

I hope the message is clear.
Until then, May Georges R.I.P and God be with his fiancee and family.




75 Comments. Add your own...

  • 1. Fuziyad | October 8th, 2009 at 11:41 am

    Very nice post N

  • 2. gk | October 8th, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    I agree with you 100% that March 14 SHOULD integrate its youth into the ISF & army!!!

  • 3. elie | October 8th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    in 1982-83 Christian youth were joining the lebanese army in big numbers,
    what was the result?
    Ilgaa war against their brothers in LF in 89.
    The lebanese army is useless, the military school is a double useless.
    in 1975 this army was with a christian majority,and still…NO Protection.
    The Only Solution is A Complete restructure of The State.and a total separation from Muslims is the only way to keep a big Christian population in Lebanon.
    enough with this ta3ayoush Sh*t.
    It is not working, not here ,not in Nigeria, not in Serbia, not in Iraq, not in Indonesia…

    I hope the message is clear

  • 4. ja3far | October 8th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    U will leave b4 us

  • 5. Arze | October 8th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Very well Said N !

    Joining the army or the police is a much better option then taking drugs & playing network all day long !

  • 6. bsm | October 8th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    N.
    You need to show a bit more respect to DR. Geagea. You refer to him as Samir Geagea all the time without the Dr.
    I understand you don’t like his actions most of the time. But if we don’t respect his title, what does that say for the ones that hate him.

  • 7. VOR | October 8th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    Well said N!

  • 8. paul | October 8th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    good post but where is here the relation between the bodyguards of gemayel , geagea and what’s happend ?pierre gemayyel is not enough?

  • 9. Al (Ex-Anonymous) | October 8th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    bsm I hate to disappoint you but he is a Dr. as much as I am a nuclear physicist… so cut the crap ;)

  • 10. Al (Ex-Anonymous) | October 8th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    FROM CNN.COM:

    “Nearly 1 in 4 people worldwide is Muslim, report says”

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/10/07/muslim.world.population/index.html

    You should read it. It’s very interesting (and disturbing)

  • 11. Nisr 3amshit !!! | October 8th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    N,

    I am really getting bored with you playing balanced! honestly I do not see you so smart enough or interesting to comment on Sami or Samir…From your comments I only see ignorancy and arrogancy…Sorry Bro but this is what i see.

  • 12. Delta | October 9th, 2009 at 7:06 am

    N I respectfully disagree with you.

    Man as Lebanese ma t3alamto ba3ed ino il idd ili btodrbak ksira?

    you need to fight them with the same weopon ya N other wise you will loose on this earth other wise they will call you a martyr .

    Fouto 3al darak all man there will be always someone above you that will order you not to shoot when the country civil war strted we had more christians then anyone in the military……. what did we achieve.

    Il id ili btinmad 3alla wledi biksera
    thats the symbol

  • 13. Rima | October 9th, 2009 at 7:27 am

    Don’t you see with me that all the ingredients of a civil war exist..it is all about timing…the weapons amassed by hizbo won’t be used aginst Israel but to lauch a military coup..and hop welcome to the islamic republic of Iran

  • 14. Rima | October 9th, 2009 at 7:28 am

    Islamic republic of Lebanon

  • 15. Rima | October 9th, 2009 at 7:30 am

    That Suleiman el ziffeit is a traitor, a coward and a disaster….

  • 16. Roch | October 9th, 2009 at 9:17 am

    Hi N,
    You misread Sami Gemayel’s statement.

    He said “either the police and army start doing their job, or we will have to go back to protecting ourselves… which let us to what we saw in the civil war”

    by “we” he doesnt mean himself and his bodyguards, he meant the people of Ain el Remaneh

  • 17. N10452 | October 9th, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    Delta,
    I remember one time i was in one of those political orientation sessions when one person explained to us how one should think when wishing to achieve a goal and not get dragged behind short-term and emotional ones ..

    He used a pretty good example back then.
    If you wish to hurt someone who had slapped you ..
    You could slap him back and get even, but that would last for a short while.
    You could punch him, that would give him a blue eye but also last for few weeks.

    Or you could put ur finger in his eye .. wel 2osba3 bil 3eb ya Delta biwajji3 wou ma ra7 yinsse bi 7ayeto ..

    Baddak tekserlo 2eedo .. ma titsalla7 3al fade … saytir 3al jeish wel darak wou rja3 3almo daress ma byensse :-)

  • 18. N10452 | October 9th, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    Nisr 3amchit
    Thank u for ur lovely & constructive comment ..

    If you have anything useful to tell me, say it .. if not stay respectful or dont post at all ..

    PS: There is no such thing as arrogancy in english ya non-ignorant inta :-)

  • 19. avi | October 9th, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    N because you think to be constructive means to block Israelis that want peace!

  • 20. avi | October 9th, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    Or you maybe think to be constructive means to post scrap journalism islamic extremists is zionism or that Ahmadenjad’s parents may be Jewish……you should raise your level because your topics are nothing but garbage.. ……it might be useful somehow to your cause because frankly I am starting to thing that ouwet is full of very ignorant people.

  • 21. Nisr 3amshit !!! | October 9th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    N,

    you see what avi comment? this is fruit of your arrogancy and ignorancy… thanks for giving us such a bad image…anyway i will always post here until you cut my messages yourself :)

  • 22. avi | October 9th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    Nisr if you want to change your image start by posting at least one article and I say at least one article for peace with Israel!

  • 23. Elie | October 9th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    Avi,
    For me and many other LF guys Israel is not an enemy,not in any way.
    Our enemies are Syrians, Palestinians, Hizballah, Iran,
    Islamic Salafist Groups and All The related Garb*ge.

  • 24. Delta | October 9th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    Elie you are fool

  • 25. Delta | October 9th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    N
    ma nihna la 3am no2worlo 3ayno walla 3am no2rto kaff 2e3din ma 3am na3mil chi this is what upset u.

  • 26. Elie | October 9th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    Delta,Fool or not, that’s how I feel.
    For Centuries Lebanese christians were suffering from their neighbors long long time before the creation of Israel

  • 27. Maximus | October 9th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    Why fool Delta?
    Our resistance against historic islamic hostility towards our free presence in Lebanon is our central cause.
    Islam is intimidating us to make us renounce to our cause and follow THEIR fight against Israel. They don’t want us to follow their cause because of our utility. Their objective is to make us loose our freedom and identity.
    The freedom of our christian identity in Lebanon is the central cause. For us, the jewish-arab conflict is be secondary. We are not concerned. The Levant question is not based on jewish/islam question. For us, the christian presence is the basic cause. Don’t let them intimidate you.

  • 28. Alyssa | October 9th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    yes i do agree we do have ourselves to blame (christians on both sides) we shud stop treating lebanon like a hotel and leave whenever it gets tought the shit we call leaders for our community we need to throw out and get new ones. We need leaders like Camile,Dany Chamoun,bachir ones who say what WE feel not what they have to say to look good.
    We need to stop being naive and realizing nobody gives a shit about us not in USA or the snakes and leeches that rule the arab world. Arabs hate us so nobody here dare consider them a friend to lebanon let alone christians.
    We should stop making appeasments and stop being followers.

    Its time we unite and strengthen our community.
    Elie I agree i dont see israel as my friend but neither my enemy either,since the otherside wont make the same concession on syria. then why shud I? to hell with the arab israel conflict it sudnt be our problem and getting rid of the palestinians doesnt mean we have to wait a thousand years for them to return to a country that is no longer theres at our expense just to “protect” their right of return. When the situation for thousands of displaced christians is NEVER addressed. Its time people realize LEBANON first and only.
    Send the palies to “sisterly syria” unguarded border or the so called rich arab state allies. send them anywhere but here.
    Its time we got our backbone back.
    Its time an equivalent to the Liberty or Lebanese Front is revived. if it a time comes that we have to rearm again to survive or strenghten or POV then so be it. The taif was the biggest mistake ever to
    happen to the christian community.
    even rene moawad regretted signing it.

  • 29. avi | October 9th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    Anyway there is a third intifada in my country because the Palestinians think again that we want to destroy the Al Aksa mosque…in 1929 the Palestinians killed all the jews in Hebron because of the same reason…anyways this is not gabage journalism ouwet should be quicker to spot this….because it can influence what is happening in lebanon http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1194419829128&pagename=JPost%2FPage%2FVideoPlayer&videoId=1254861908791

  • 30. avi | October 9th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    One last thing Alyssa you should unite because it is the only way for Christians to have a fighting chance…I say the same to Israelis….our peoples should be allies because we have the same enemies and the same purpose…to survive!

  • 31. jamil | October 9th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    well N this post is great i really like it
    Elie when israel invades ur country kills ur children and make hostilities agaisnt ur sky and water souvreignty it does not make it a friend(jews do not have friends they have interests)
    guys if we are true christians and follow jesus we must start by forgiving at least as christians( wa ela 3melo bouziyeh aw yahoud)
    avi come on man u killed my christian friend on madfoun bridge because he was trying to reach his work you attaked the army base killing many officiers and soldiers because u need peace get lost asshole go play with ur little UZi

  • 32. jamil | October 9th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    by the way guys ma ta3mlo el machkal we teklo atleh we tebko ye3neh akid li sar ma3 georges allah yerhamo ghalat we marfoud we tol3et el ossa bi rasso alla yerhamo bass li talabo delivery men el chiyah ma3 eno ma betssawar ma fi resto bta3mel delivery bi 3eyn el remene we darabo el delivery boy ma ken badon yeklo aw 3al a2al sababo el machkal
    chabeb mich 3atoul nehna maleykeh we heneh chyatin lezim yen3edmo leano fiyon ya3mlo machkal bi idayon ma daroureh bel skekin bass hadedo el ha2 3ala min bi asses el machkal abel ma tjarbo bi afkarkon ta3mlo harb ahliyeh

  • 33. avi | October 9th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Jamil I didn’t kill anyone and they don’t use Uzi anymore in our stupid army…..and I am sorry for your friend I know for a fact that the army has made many mistakes but the purpose is not kill any innocents contrary to the extremist muslim’s goal inside your own country…and that’s why we should be allies at least against the ‘Syrians, Palestinians, Hizballah, Iran,
    Islamic Salafist Groups and All The related Garb*ge.’ Abd my interest at the end of the day Jamil I assure you is peace.

  • 34. Maximus | October 10th, 2009 at 12:23 am

    Yesterday, in Al-Akhbar, Ghassan Massoud showed how hypocrites HA friends can be:
    For him:
    فالجريمة أسقطت أقنعة كثيرة، وأظهرت كيف أنه لا يزال لبنانيّون كثر عالقين في الماضي، متمسّكين بثقافة لا علاقة لها بالمواطنية التي تبشّر بها جمعيات كثيرة على امتداد الوطن
    Why?
    He published a number of reactions of chrisians, both LF and Aounists, after the murder of Georges in AER that put in light different points:
    - the use of Aoun by HA to hypnotize christians is not working;
    - Aounists are having an opposite raction by questioning their interest in allying with those who can kill them;
    - The Christians are still having common feeling that unites them when in danger;
    - the Christians are still having the capacity to stand up and claim their rights.

    Examples of reactions given by Massoud:
    «الشباب المسيحيين المثقفين يموتون على أيدي زعران يدّعون أنهم مقاومة، لكنّ كل شباب القوات سيكونون جورج أبو ماضي إذا اقترب الزعران من «مناطقنا» للمس بالوجود المسيحي»

    «لو تسلّحت القوات من جديد لنرعب الأرض ونزلزلها وننظف البلد من الشياطين كما فعل مار الياس»

    فتبدي ساندي تمنيها ألّا ينكر العونيون الشهيد الجديد «كما أنكروا سامر حنا، وأتمنى أن يقفوا وقفة رجال فيرفضوا التفاهم مع حزب الله ويقولوا لعون توقّفْ، فيعودون إلى موقعهم الصحيح فنضع أيادينا بأياديهم كمسيحيين»

    أنشأ بعض مؤيّدي التيار الوطني الحر مجموعة لجورج أبو ماضي على الفايسبوك، انضم إليها خلال يومين أكثر من 1300 شخص. وقد شهدت المجموعة نقاشاً على عدة مستويات، تستهله ريتا متسائلة عمّن يحاسب المجرمين، مطالبة بدولة تحاسب ولا تسمح بخروج القتلة بعد فترة. ويعبّر شادي نادر بصراحة عمّا في قلبه: «جورج مات، جورج استشهد، الاستنكار لن يريح قلبي والديه، يجب أن يحترق قلب كل من آذاه، أياً كانوا، وصدقوني إذا غُطّي القاتل نكون حزباً فاشلاً يكذب على نفسه، فليلعن الله هكذا بلد تحكمه الميليشيات والزعران»

    فؤاد جلخ، فيستغرب الإصرار على التغطية على تمادي حلفاء التيار الوطني الحر، معتبراً أن ثمة «جماعة تفتح على حسابها، ولا أحد يسألها أين تذهب. مرة تقرر إغلاق طريق المطار، ومرة تقرر إسقاط طوافة للجيش اللبناني». وينتهي جلخ بالترداد: «الله يرحمك يا جورج وفدى السيّد، حتى لا ينزعج إخوتك في التيار».
    أما الناشط في التيار طوني نهرا، فيؤكد: «كل عمرنا لم نعرف الخوف ولن نعرفه، ولم نكن زعران ولن نكون، لكن لن نسكت ويفترض أن تعلّق المشانق لهؤلاء الزعران ليتربّى غيرهم»

    What may (and should) be an opportunity to make Aounists wake up is making HA panicking. Massoud hyporcisy made him concluding:

    والأهم من كل ذلك السؤال عن مسؤوليّة حكومات «الوفاق الوطني» المتعاقبة، وقوى المجتمع المدني التي لم تترك قاعة في فندق إلا حوّلتها مقرّاً لمحاضراتها عن المواطنية، فيما تستمر فئة كبيرة من الشباب ـــــ كما تظهر النقاشات الإلكترونية ـــــ تشتهي حمل السلاح وتعدّه زينة الرجال

    Instead of admitting that la wafia2 watany wala civil society wala state of law as long as HA and Amal armed gangs arte there, he is playing the shocked guy because christians are waking up.
    Enno el masi7é b3atoulo NGO ya3mloulo mou7adarat 3an el “mouwatinya” because he no more accepts to see armed gangs killing him bas HA and Amal armed gangs, bel nesbé la Massoud, hené tabi3é ykouno msala7in w faw2 el anoun. Hené ghair me3neyin bi nsay7o 3an el mouwatiniyé wel wife2 el watané!

  • 35. Maximus | October 10th, 2009 at 1:53 am

    Fouad Abu Nader on al-Manar:
    هناك انطباعا بأن المسيحيين في لبنان هم مكسر العصى وهم معزولون في النصف،

    Who’s “3asa”?

    Then he considered that
    لافتا الى ان حادثة عين الرمانة فردي

    ولكنه حذر من اي المسيحيين لن يقبلوا في المرة المقبلة بالسكوت والصمت عن هذه الأحداث
    kif?
    eza 7ades “fardi”, lashou el te7zir eno ma ra7 neskot el marra el mo3bele? eza 7adis fardé, shou tebrir eno el masihyé ka mellé w a7zeb yetdakhalo?
    ou eza mesh 7adis ferdé, lay mne3bala hal marra bas mnetwa3ad bil marra elmo3bilé? li3ano el mejrim mghata men Amal w HA?

  • 36. Delta | October 10th, 2009 at 6:41 am

    Avi if you want to ally your self with me to kill hizbullah why dont you allie with me to get rid of the extreme right you have in isreal first ?

  • 37. Delta | October 10th, 2009 at 6:47 am

    Elie bihibouk ktir il isrealiyeh min chen hek ntek ili bazarna bil jabal……. lak ya man ayre bil neibours killoun ha2ou ay…

  • 38. paul | October 10th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    mni7a Maximus.ma 3arfeen chou baddoun l brothers .mou2awame,aw mousewame.

  • 39. avi | October 10th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    Delta don’t forget that the extreme right in Israel is similar to your phalange party!They are both simply nationalist parties.I maybe don’t vote for them but both parties do not have genocidal agendas and they do not want to convert the whole world to their religion.

  • 40. paul | October 10th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    Delta,l7a2 mich 3a toul 3al tilyen.
    2aratouna biljabal,bass ni7na manna bari2een 100%.

  • 41. avi | October 10th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    Plus Delta our rightist religious extremists like Kach have been outlawed is that the case in your country?No it is not and it is giving you a big headache right?

  • 42. Delta | October 10th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    outlawed means nothing, if we outlaw hizbullah you guys will be ok with that and will leave lebanon alone ? no?

  • 43. Delta | October 10th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    Paul

    I agree bass hej 2emlinoun ikhwetna whine zi2ab

  • 44. Delta | October 10th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    Maximus
    There is a saying in Tennessee: “Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me….

    Your cause is a Godly Caus ya maximus dont let him use you to achieve there goals they are as extreme as the Muslim extremist the one that shoots rockets on the Red Cross and on Lebanese civilians is not a hero or someone we can trust

    My trust is in the Lord creator of Heaven and earth not in Isreal or syria…………

    Avi you might know this one:

    Psalm 23:4
    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
    I will fear no evil; For you are with me; Your rod and Your staff, chiky
    they confort me.

    Maximus Trust God not your neibours
    your cause is right dont mix it with the wrong……..

  • 45. avi | October 10th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Of coarse delta hopefully one day this will happen plus I hope to be with open borders one day so I thought about tourism not leaving your country alone.

  • 46. Maximus | October 10th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    Delta
    When i say “the jewish-arab conflict is secondary. We are not concerned”, it means that i put both arabs and jews in the same bag. How did you conclude that i consider israeli ” a hero” or “someone we can trust” that make you give me lessons from the Bible?

    For the “fool me once” (wich is not limited to the Tennessee i think), Israeli can say the same about us for what hapened in 1982. I have nothing against Israeli. My problem is with jews ideology on the west a mentality which is very different from soldiers citizens in Israel.

    My purpose is to put our christian cause first, not the palestinian-arab nor the israeli cause. During 15 years of repression and intimidation, our christian brothers in lebanon have progressively adopted arab mentality and became very sensitive to islam suffering from jews at the point that they forget their proper suffering from islam. Asking christians to never forget their suffering and put their freedom from islam hégémony cause first does not mean asking them to trust jews. We christians have our proper cause. We don’t need neither of islam or jews to exist.
    wod7it ma3ak rafi2?

  • 47. avi | October 10th, 2009 at 6:06 pm

    Ok Maximus but it is contrary ideals, how can on the one hand claim to be ’sensitive to islam’ but on the other hand suffer from Islamic hegemony that you are already under???Plus you seem to have a problem with the ‘citizen soldiers’ in Israel without even asking yourself if the Israelis like myself actually enjoy ourselves in this situation???Not that we can do much about it since we in Israel are also fighting against Islamic hegemony;to keep it simple Maximus or you surrender or you don’t ,in Israel’s case it is clear in your situation or for your cause for the moment it is also clear…you surrendered.

  • 48. Maximus | October 10th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    Avi
    - during syrian occupation, when LF and christian parties were persecuted, “some” of our christian brothers in Lebanon, under the intimidation of islamic parties and their medias brainwash, mostly HA, became sensitive to islamic and palestinian suffering (Israel gave them several occasion exploited very well by HA, cf. Qana massacre), forgetting their proper hitory of suffering from islam. Clear?
    - The isreali “citizen solider” model is not a philosphical choice but a necessaty for Israel to face arithmetic demographic deficit towards arabs. I admire this model because it is not far from our Maronite trilogy model which was the “monk-farmer-warrior”, that we had from the 7th century until the mameluk occupation.
    - We never surrendered Avi. We lost a battle. Our fight is not 70 years old as Israeli one. We are in war since 14 centuries. Islamic empires come and go. We stay…

  • 49. avi | October 10th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    do you really think Maximus that the Christians in Lebanon (that are not Muslim) will one day be unwelcome in Dar el Islam??? I am asking you this truthfully because I know for a fact that most Lebanese Christians have one speech in Lebanon and another speech when they are in USA Australia France etc……When they are in Lebanon they love their ‘resistance miltia’ and when they are oversees they complain of Islamic hegemony, from my point of view they have surrendered to survive because they are happy that the Muslim extremists are to busy with Israel so they pray they leave them alone,in Israel’s case there has never been any alternative given.

  • 50. avi | October 10th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    Even at the time when Israel was not occupying any lands or there were no Pali refugees???

  • 51. Maximus | October 10th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    I have ho doubt about the capacity of Lebanese christians to rebuild themselves. Dar al islam stoped at our frontier and never islam went inside our heartland in the moutains.

    Yes there is demographic, economic and cultural pression. Yes the West is no more concerned by the christian presence in Lebanon because (you won’t like it) jewish intellectuals influence are working hard since years to dechristianize the west and transform it to a multiracial society thinking that it will eliminate the antisemitism. In fact, by weakening the christian west, those intellectuals opened the door to islam to invade demographically Europe threw migrants. Your problem is that Israel is in the same position that the Crusaders (yes accept it), when Latin states were surrounded by islam. And, the risk for you is if the west will be more weak against islam he will no more be able to help you and you will be alone facing islam. Already, more and more decisions are taken by government in the west on the basis of seducing the muslim voters. We christian lebanese will always take refuge in our mountains. That what permited us to survive during differend times. What will you do in Israel? Israeli citizens do not have the same interest as the jewish diaspora. Those are working on weakening the christianity in the west by fear of antisemtism but they are weakening the only support that could help israel. A dechristianize leftist europe will be anti-israeli. Look at the scandiavian attitude towards you. Do you want a councel? Convince jewish diaspora in the US and EUrope that a strong christian Europe is the only hope for Israel survival. If the west became under islamic influence (2050?), you won’t survive. SO what? what will israeli do? Back to Europe where islam will be dominant?

  • 52. avi | October 10th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    And Maximus I don’t quite follow how Israel can convince the West to stay Christians and I think that Israel can also survive in it’s homeland ,you know Maximus invaders come and go in my country ….the Jews have always lived there so I am not that paranoid about not surviving even if the West does not support me because frankly Maximus before 1967 was France or the USA supporting Israel ?and even today?when it suits them right?…..no Israel will survive because of the ingeniousity of the Hebrew people ,the key in our region is not Muslim this Muslim that, the key for me is education.

  • 53. avi | October 10th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Only through education and peace can this region thwart attempts by extremists of all religions to captivate the minds of the youth.

  • 54. Nisr 3amshit !!! | October 10th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    AVI,

    I think you are full of S***…Can you read your post by any chance? I am not understanding your bla bla so much!!! Bel Jabal tza3ranto 3layna wkenna ally…kif ba3dna bedna nousa2 fikon? DO you think you are Zoran?

  • 55. avi | October 10th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Well Nisr its the bear truth……when you were brainwashed into thinking Israel means something bad (or that zionism means colonization of Arab lands)since you were a kid by your school or your parents ;well your school or your parents did not inform you they disinformed you …same goes for television shows, but if you receive a fair and just education than how the hell are you going to believe in all this filth or hate which for me is poison.And in your case Jamil what fuels your hate is revenge right so in your eyes every Israeli kills and wants to kill right???well too bad that’s not reality.Plus I also have lost friends and relatives in this eternal war but I refuse hate.

  • 56. Doc1559 | October 10th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    bru7 w bije w ba3dkun ma7alkun !!!!! nafess al mawdu3 w nafess al 7akyet !! khaline bara the best thing is to read only..

    nisr 3amshit

    fyi,avi ma byifham 3rabeh.. 7ki english bass..

  • 57. Doc1559 | October 10th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    paul

    KIfak bro ? I just wanted to say hello :)

  • 58. Maximus | October 10th, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    tayeb Doc, ru7 w ma téjé!
    kidding…

  • 59. Nisr 3amshit !!! | October 10th, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    Thanks Doc1559.

    AVI,

    Sorry i didn’t know you do not speak arabic! It looks for me so strange knowing that you live in an arabic country and land !!! hahahahahaha

    Ya sionist ya enta…AVI, for your information we didn’t study about sionist in Lebanon…Our program has too many and more interesting thinks than your S***… Anyway how can you explain about the jews asking the head of Jesus and crocify him? isn’t a history? did you study that hate at school in Hapoalim? hahahahha

  • 60. avi | October 11th, 2009 at 1:39 am

    No it’s hebrew Nisr mainly but it is true that many Israelis speak Arabic;I took English and French not Arabic as a second language but in my school a long time ago or even in the new, there was no hate brainwashing against Arabs ; and I see Al Manar and I also see how many Lebanese speak about Israel and I see you are a joke Jamil,pick up a book .Do you even know what zionism means?? or how many different types of Zionism there are?? and how the Israelis that were born here like myself like my parents don’t really even care because for the most of us zionism is a thing of the past ……no you prefer blind hate based on half truthes or simple lies but the problem is Jamil we live in 2009 and so things change a part from your hate.

  • 61. avi | October 11th, 2009 at 1:56 am

    And how do you explain Jamil that Jesus was Jewish and today you do not recognize Israel the same Jews that came back after being expelled during the time of Jesus????Or are you going to commend me for not believing that Jesus or Mohammed are prophets right??,Pick up a book because once again your arguments are filth probably taken from the good old Hezb social vista.

  • 62. avi | October 11th, 2009 at 1:58 am

    *I mean Nasr….

  • 63. Nisr 3amshit !!! | October 11th, 2009 at 7:32 am

    Avi,

    Nisr 3amshit and not NASR. Nisr 3amshit means 3amshit (town in lebanon) and Nisr (Eagle). 3amshit is the town of our president Sleiman and he is Nisr 3amshit! but to be honest I think he is a normal bird (wetwat-butman) and not Nisr…or if he is Nisr, he is not coming from 3amshit directly but maybe from a neighbor country.

    AVI, Concerning your big mouth again and your preaching bullshit…you are born in Isreal but how about the rest of you guys? All this eastern european names in your government!!! They are originally from the promis land? Stop playing intellectual and open your eyes like ZOHAN…by the way did you saw the movie DON’T MESS WITH ZOHAN? do u look like him in real?

  • 64. paul | October 11th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    Doc1559 waynak ya zalame bardit l chorba,wintafa l man2al wni7na natreen :-)

    Germany 1 rusia 0 yesterday,t7addir 7ala USA ta nifrikla daynita :D

  • 65. avi | October 11th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    I guess comment 63 is just to show how ignorant you are Nasr; that’s why you get no answer back…I wonder if don’t mess with Zohan was censored in Lebanon ???Nasr you are a moron!And the only argument you have left is racism.Well i will let you rot in your ignorance.

  • 66. Nisr 3amshit !!! | October 11th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    AVI,

    Don’t wonder too much…It could break your brain…I can’t understand where I was racist? Thanks god you didn’t tell Antisemitist! because everytime somebody think defferent than you guys is racist or antisemetist…

  • 67. danny | October 11th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Nisr 3am and avi…

    Are you the same person? You guys are so much full of Bovine scatology…

  • 68. avi | October 11th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Nasr ‘Ya sionist ya enta…AVI’….that’s where you were racist!But I guess your are too busy breaking my skull right,??

  • 69. Jean | October 12th, 2009 at 4:46 am

    Allah yer7amak ya Georges ….

    I havent been following the news too much lately guys, has Aoun come out and said anything?

    N, I would also have to politely disagree with you about your interpretation of what Sami Gemayel has said. If we as christians are not being protected by the ISF and\or the army, then yes we need to find a way of defending ourselves.

    Alyssa raised another good point that alot of fellow christians simply dont acknowledge. Why are we always crying for the displaced Palestinians, when there are thousands of displaced Lebanese Christians??!?!?! This is something that all christian politicians should put at the forefront.

    Granted they may lose alot of the muslim support from both camps, but it will be the first step in uniting the christian cause.

    A question I would like Doc or Ja3far to answer. What would happen if it was a group of a christians from Ain El Remmaneh rode around on motorcycles harassing and taunting the residents of Chiyah? Only to return to kill one and wound a group of Shiites? Honestly wwhat would be the repercussions?

    In answering the question, avoid towing the political line that it wasnt sectarian and answer as a human being who knows what goes on in the streets.

    Looking forward to hearing it ….

  • 70. Doc1559 | October 12th, 2009 at 6:51 am

    test 1

  • 71. Nisr 3amshit !!! | October 12th, 2009 at 11:32 am

    Avi,

    If telling sionist to somebody is Racism? you can tell me LF and I will fell proud…how come?

    Avi, you are confused man…if you are a man!!!

  • 72. Avi | October 12th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    what’s racist is that zionist means colonization of arab’s land and then you insist on it as if it is true,but it is the Jews have been living on this land way longer than any arab ,that’s the truth and I am proud of being Israeli zionism is of the past today this land called Israel is Jewish and it will allways will be and it allways was.

  • 73. Avi | October 12th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    But that does not mean I deny the Arab’s right to this land either…..And by the way moderation long time no see!

  • 74. Alyssa | October 13th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    Well said jean i agree also dont u think its ironic that these palestinian “victims” and the same who cry non stop over their “rights” and them returning are the same responsible for primarily destroying Lebanon and displacing thousands of christians. so boo freaking hoo before i care about their rights when nobody cares about ours.

  • 75. Nisr 3amshit !!! | October 13th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    Avi,

    When the universe and the history begin?



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