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To the ignorant LFers attacking Nadim Gemayel …

Posted by N10452

After Nadim Gemayel’s interview in Al Massira magazine this week, i have
heard lots of negative feedbacks of LFers attacking Nadim for saying he
is an LFer inside the Kataeb party.
I am not saying it is wrong to critisize Nadim because he is Bash’s son,
thats not my point at all.
I myself used to critisize people supporting Nadim simply because he is
Bashir’s son and praising him based on his family name. I also harshly
critisized his decision to join the Aounist candidate Hikmat Deeb during
elections two years ago and most importantly i always insisted that we
leave Nadim alone and let him decide and then judge based on his
actions.

And indeed he did make a decision and took over the Achrafieh Kataeb
faction as a vice president, just like Bashir started in the Kataeb.
He needed a facility to start from and to launch himself politically,
and what better place than The Kataeb house where Bash started and was
assasinated and the Achrafieh region that is still loyal to Bashir and
the LF .
The opening speech, for those who missed it , clearly showed that Nadim
joined the Kataeb but did not limit himself to the party, but wants to
revive the Bashir (LF) thought and enthusiasm inside the party and even
outside it.

Now you ask me why didnt Nadim join the LF ? or as i heard from few
replies, if Nadim is an LF, he should be inside the LF, or even better
Nadim is a Gemayel and prefers being with the Kataeb than with
Dr.Geagea.

My answer to all those, you are asking the wrong question:
Did the LF welcome Nadim Gemayel in the first place ?

Did any LF responsible invite Nadim to join the LF and work with them ?
not that i heard of.
Dont you think Nadim would find himself ‘intruding’ when the LF
leadership and the team around it are all from the North and mainly
Bsharreh and its surroundings ?
Do i need to remind everyone what some LF thugs used to do at every
Bashir mass ?

We lost Nadim to the Kataeb, however i think Nadim’s decision was a wise
one, and from the activities being done lately and the political
speeches he has been giving, i believe he is on the right track.
He might not be a charismatic person, but do we have any charismatic
leader nowadays ??

All he needs is strong advisors and he MUST use his father’s heritage to
build himself a clean and credible reputation.
He is a young man and has a long way ahead of him, he is an LFer and he
ll always be, whether inside the Kataeb or the Ahrar or alone. The LF is
a thought and a cause and is a MEAN, not an end or property of Gemayel
or Geagea families.

Cheers.


Filed under: Critiques, Lebanon, Political
Posted by N10452 on 09.11.06 @ 8:12 pm | 15 Comments

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  • 1. PK | September 12th, 2006 at 4:52 am

    I didn’t see someone like you very enthusiastic for a kid. Nadim is searching for a position whenever might be that position. LF, Kataeb, with Aoun … whenever. 2nd, he used to visit Aoun in Paris and he was like Aoun is the friend of my father. Fuck him and his father’s friend. 3rd don’t you think the LF withdrawed Sarkis in Beirut for the benefit of Nadim’s Mother ?. So do you want from the LF to make from all Bashir’s relatives the stars of politics ?. If you’re promised about Nadim, don’t fool yourself he’s the son of his MOM

  • 2. N10452 | September 12th, 2006 at 9:44 am

    PK,
    Its easy to talk about someone if you dont know him. Its not about being enthusiastic about Nadim but insulting him is a stupid thing to do.

    He has stepped back from supporting Aoun long time ago in case you didnt realize that yet.

  • 3. Ramy Kozaily | September 12th, 2006 at 7:44 pm

    PK ktir hal2ad hadileh zindak. bade itwajah wihke bil 3arabe ta il kil yifhamo : il ouwet adiyeh il ouwet mich chakhes wchakhsen il ouwet hiyeh kil owatgeh bi emin bi libnen wbi il woujoud il massihe il horr 3alla il ared ili libneniyeh hayde il ouwet so iza inta kata2eb aw ahrar aw 3awneh aw whatever bass u beleive in those 2 inta ouwet il ouwet akbar min tonhossir bi hizb il ouwet risseleh il ouwet adiyeh akbar minak wmineh akbar min Il cheikh bachir akbar min Dr.Geagea akbar min Nadim Gmayel wmin Solange.

    KA hizb ouwet nihna ma 3ma na3mil chi nothing nada neinte rien machi we are watching our party collapsing ma3 il 3ilem ino its the time now la2ano Mr Aoun khirif wdaye3 wmdaya3 il dineh ma3o.another question ? hal al KAbout AOun is our enemy ? YES but is the AOunist our enemies AKid la2 ya chabeb nihna massihiyeh wma hadda fi ycheri3 il teneh 3alla masihito wma hadda masihi aktar min il teneh so iza il 3awniyeh that in my opinion wassalouna la hon are not our enemy and we are suppose to respect them ma bi3te2id bi he2ilna nsib NAdime gmayel yalli nihna ka libneniyeh ka massihiyeh ka ouwet ka kateavb ka ahrar mas2oulin 3an istechehed bayo. so PK consider and count till 10 before slaming people with you sweet and understanding words.ba3dena whats wrong with kate2ib aw ahrar these two parties are our roots hine il jouzour wil assel taba3 il ouwet so ma bade zakirkoun ino mich hilo il insen yinkor aslo ya chabeb w i tink Nadim gmayel still one of us whatever he do or wherever he go he ll always be one of us .thanks ya chabeb wchwayet ihtiram la ba3edna l ba3ed salem il massih.

  • 4. PK | September 13th, 2006 at 8:35 pm

    Ramy, my friend. I have nothing against Nadim. Nadim is my friend but I replied to Najib like that because he’s trying to make a hero from Nadim or a star while he’s an ordinary man he’s not like Bashir. We love him because he’s Bahir’s son but it doesn’t mean we have to try to encourage him to replace Bashir. Bashir was unique and he will stay unique. I meant no offence but I was rude somehow. I’m sorry.

  • 5. othello | September 14th, 2006 at 9:59 am

    When Bachir (RIP) said “iza metet wma eja 6000 Bachir ghayri sittin sini 3alayko…”
    he did not say BAchir “teni”… he said “ghayri” and I would like to emphasise on the word difference here…conitnuing to look for an exact replica of Bachir (RIP) is what lead us here today…

    ya shabeb…look at us…do you think Bach would like the scene if he saw us today? a thousand and one divisions and the number is rising…you have a hundred wanabe Bachirs…all ignoring the fact that we are in 2006…and that Bachir himself, had he been alive today, would have changed with time to adapt to the new setup…of course we would not have reached so low.had he still been around..but the important thing is to realise that adaptation is the key to survival…focus on adapting to your environment like Bachir would have adapted…it is then that you will be able to make changes…

  • 6. Ramy Kozaily | September 14th, 2006 at 5:50 pm

    Pk my brother u dont have to be sorry all what i want that we respect each other on the scenne sahbe la2ano we have to creat some order inside this party mich ma3rouf a** min bi t** min this is all and i respect ur opinion and in a way ma3ak ha2 bass as i sad respect and love for each others bro
    Salem il massih

  • 7. Roland_ay | September 14th, 2006 at 9:22 pm

    Najib, my friend i may agree with you in most of what you said but the one thing that i strongly disagree with is the excuses you gave for Nadim for not being in the LF. Did they invite him??? Well no one invited me and i am sure no one invited you either. Let’s not hide behind our fingers my friend, the issue is way bigger than invitation. I will try to post somethig about it.

  • 8. Kouwatje | September 14th, 2006 at 9:30 pm

    Nadim is not the son of Bachir Gemayel ,he is the son of his MoM ,and saying he is an lfer in the kateab is bullshit ,he is only saying that coz he doesnt wont to upset the lfers and he wants to keep there support to him

  • 9. Ramy Kozaily | September 15th, 2006 at 9:54 am

    Mr kouwatge ? lech whats wrong with the phalangiste nowadays ? whats wrong if he is an lfer in the phalangiste we always had lfers inside of the falangiste since 1982 la lyom and by the way who are u to judje if nadim is the Son of bachir or not ? Respect man Respect 3eb ba2a
    Salem il massih ya chabeb

  • 10. N10452 | September 17th, 2006 at 12:03 pm

    Well Hakim attended the mass and i believe answered all those attacking Nadim.
    So no need for me to reply anymore.

  • 11. Will | September 17th, 2006 at 2:45 pm

    Before asking if Nadim is an LFer or a Phalangiste, begine by asking your selves what’s an LFers?
    Is Georges Adwan an LFer? no he is a Tanzim! isn’t Samir Geagea a Phalangist at first?
    you can be ahrar, tanzim, phalangist, christian…. and LFer. LF is a cause, as N10452 said, it’s not only a party.
    If Samir Geagea change it into a political party, we are not oblige to suit his “strategic” decision. he wanted to creat something for his own person… good be with him.
    Being LF is different from being Hakimist. Thank you for understanding this. because “mich kell yalle mich ma3e, dode”.

  • 12. †_DELA_† | December 20th, 2006 at 4:06 pm

    ya chabeb alla ouwet
    nadim gemayel eben l sheikh bachir gemayel eben bekfaya eben le shmel eben l achrafiye ebn lebnen l 10452km2
    ma toghlato w t2oulo leik l ouwet (mas2oulin) killon mn l shmel!
    la2 ya chabeb! l 2ouwet 2adiyit 10452km2 ouwet lebnaniye 3a kl cheber mn trabet lebnen!
    awal shi ana ouwatje lal mot! lal dam!
    w rase 2a3waj ouwet ye3ne ouwet 5at 2a7mr!
    mola7aza lf nasha2it mnl kataeb l loubnaniye
    l ouwet kallafit l bash(rip) 2ooo shahid laywa7id l baroude
    l ouwet 7ezeb masi7e mouta3assib la masi7ito ma byerka3 2ella la alla w salibo!†
    l ouwet bi dom l kataeb horas arez ahrar tanzim …. used!
    halla2 samir geagea 7emil mesh3al l2adiye w kermel l2adiye li ballasha l bash(rip) dr n7abas!
    ya chabeb l3awne sa7i7 masi7e bas 3am betsir l 2ossa so3be ma3o la dareje bet2oul fiye 3ich ma3 lsene bas l 3awne la2
    kif badak t3ich ma 5ay(masi7e) byorofdak bado yelghik bye7tekrak b2ul 2enak 2etel 2outala 2enak nehin 2enak az3ar 2enak 7aref na2is
    wlik you3o ba2a bas kenit l 2ouwet defi3 3an l masi7iye w 3an lebnen mnl 1975 lal 88 wein keno l3awniye
    7ada bya3rif 2eno 3oun ken ydarib bl majles l 6arbe taba3 l ouwet w l bash mla2abo l skhra?
    wlik ya 3ame wein keno l3awniye dod l filastine dod lsoumaliye le 2ejo 7arabouna bl shmel wein keno bas l achrafieh ma 5ara2a 7ada wein keno bas 3ein lremenh dalit samda
    b2oulo ne7na israeliye wlik min wen kena tsala7na mn wein keno lmasi7iye da3waso lsene dodon (mourabitoun) l chi3a amal(li ncha2 3ana hizbollah) souriye
    ma fi ken gheir sadam ya3tina sle7 3an tari2 port jouneh!
    ya 3ame you3o l masi7iye you3o ba2a!
    l 2a7la fi wa7ad ma3e bl jem3a meslim chi3e bas 3awne ntebho mish hizb2allah 3awne bi dallo y2oul bado ysir fi 7areb tanfarjiyon min l 2a2wa!
    wlik ya chabeb louwet balashit chabeb sakar w sahar w sinemayet darabo w saro sadem!
    saro rjel bi hezzo l dene!
    keno ysamouna foufou w moumou hayda foufou w moumou l ka3ka3o l souriye 3o sene w ma 2edro 3layon la bil 7abes wla bl 7areb wla bl moukhabarat!
    tawalet srry bas fashet 5el2e!
    alla ouwet!

  • 13. La fille du Kataeb | February 9th, 2007 at 11:58 pm

    Salut…j’aime bien dire que le parti kataeb a supporter beaucoup de martyrs comme “Maya,Bachir,Emanuel et Pierre Gemayel et Amine aswad”.Et dans ce moment là on est besoin de Bachir 2,et il y a une difficultée de trouver un 2ème Bachir,mais Sami “le fils de Sheikh Amine” et Nadim “le fils de sheikh Bachir” ont un grand rôle pour reconstruire le Liban malgré leurs jeunes âges,et pour prendre le flambeau du président Bachir….Aussi je veux vous dire que le courant du Michel Aoun n’a pas d’histoire,il est fondaté depuis quelques année,et de ne pas oublier que le fondateur du L.F est le martyr Bachir,et Sheikh Bachir était le fils du fondateur du parti kataeb “sheikh Pierre” alors que l’L.F est une partie du kataeb comme Nadim a dit…donc on ne peut pas comparer entre les 2 partis “kataeb et l.f”…alors qu’on doit essayer les 2 jeunes hommes “Sami et Nadim” politiquement sans être bornés…et tout simplement je veux vous dire que les grands hommes nous manquent,ceux qui avaient des idéaux nationaux sans se préoccuper des faits divers quotidiens.

  • 14. Jürgen Eckmann | March 10th, 2007 at 1:21 pm

    Dear Kataeb companions, Lebanon hopes this again an independent and strong Christian state becomes! Wir are in Deustchland nowadays still a very small organisation. But the fight begins, because we do not fight Germany and Europe is Islamic in 20 years. The best fight greetings to You and entschuldigung for my bad English.

  • 15. LF10452 | September 13th, 2007 at 6:40 pm

    ALLA OUWET
    BACHIR HAY FINA
    HAYYA FATA EL KATAEB

    ma tzaghro 3a2elkon
    BACHIR WA7ADNA , W LEZIM NDALLA MWA7DIN, ILA ABAD EL ABIDIN AMIN

    BOUKRA KELLNA BADDA NENZAL !!!!

    25 sene w ba3dak hay fina



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