The International Tribunal & Syria ..
Posted by N10452“Nothing would stop the tribunal. It will be an international tribunal that would issue a charge sheet this year,” he said.
The tribunal, according to Geagea, “wouldn’t just deal with the Hariri assassination, but would also shed light on what has happened in Lebanon in the past 30 years.”
Those were words from Hakim’s press release few days ago after his long visit to the USA.
One week ago, Canadian prosecutor Daniel Bellemare declared the former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri was assassinated by a “criminal network”.
I was surprised no one commented on that post, even though it holds very serious implications, since it hints that Syria might get away with its crimes. Using the technical word “criminal network” takes out the many indirect and direct blames Mehlis had at first put then Brammertz against Syria.
March 14 should understand toppling the Syrian regime is not on the US agenda, and that the Americans are stuck in Iraq and are having serious problems. They will never risk toppling the only regime that is capable of handling terrorist organizations. Jumblatt was mistaken when asking for the end of the Syrian regime last week …
March 14 are facing a serious challenge now ..
What if the UN doesnt accuse the Syrian Regime of the murder? What have we been fighting for ??
That would be a major blow to us of course, Syria coming back to Lebanon is disastrous.
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1. Arze | April 3rd, 2008 at 1:54 am
why is it so hard ot believe that an “international network criminals ” did it ? enno hata eza el Tribunal said so , badkon to2ulo souriya ? Wtf!! What if it was much bigger then Syria ! Go watch Zeitgeist N and see the things that are done and even bigger then the united states of America !
2. kezballah | April 3rd, 2008 at 3:44 am
Arze ta7altna bi Zeitgeist, shou 3am te7lamo bi nawmak?
What do you want Belmar to say? Can he say Hariri was killed by a network of innocents? By rahbet Saint Coeur? Mehlis also said a professional network this is not new!
Of course he was killed by criminals DUH. But it is not 5 people who did it there is more and they are connected not one crazy Shakir Absi who blew up himself. Network of criminals doesn’t mean they are children on Facebook, they can be the Assad family that’s a network of criminals!
I don’t expect the UN to topple the regime in Syria, but it can make them weaker, make them busy running so we can have some peace.
3. kezballah | April 3rd, 2008 at 3:47 am
Network of criminals mean it is not Abou Adass like Syria told us. Franjieh knew the bomb was above the ground from the first day without investigation, because he is friends with the network of criminals in Syria.
4. Jay | April 3rd, 2008 at 5:59 am
Patience, patience grass-hopper…
5. libanon | April 3rd, 2008 at 7:41 am
“but would also shed light on what has happened in Lebanon in the past 30 years”
You mean it will shed light on the killing of the frangieh family, the killing of rashid karame, the massacre of a schoolchildren 3al mat7af, eldibbat 3al 7ayt, majzarit nahr el mot, the killing of chamoun family. You mean it will finally bring to justice all the people who were syrian tools, who fought alongside the syrians, all the people whom without their support, military and political, the syrians wouldn’t have been able to occupy lebanon. You mean the people took advantage of the syrian presence to fill their bank accounts, to build castles, to steal money from refugees.
If geagea really does want to do that, then I’m with him all the way.
6. libanon | April 3rd, 2008 at 7:47 am
N10452, when will you understand that inspite af all the crimes this regime and its tools in the war (geagea included) did to the lebanese people, it is still in the christians’ intrest for this regime to stay because it is Alawe. Bikaffena 7ikim mislim bilibnen; 2iza kamen 7ikim mislim bisouriya minseer ta7t el sermeye.
7. Johnny.B | April 3rd, 2008 at 8:34 am
libanon,
wtf do u want more … don’t you that geagea did his time? or do u want more …
what about generalak … swarikh grad 3ala ain el-remmeneh kam atil i bra2ebto ? bi ghadd l-nazar 3an l-jeich yalli tarekon yi2talo hinne w 3am bidif3ou 3anno ?
wat about karameh … min kein l-mas2oul l3askareh 3an amen l-matar ?
ta3 khabberneh 3an nabih berri …
ba3dein ya arzeh,
if its like ur saying enno its the zionist regime who did all these cries they why the ffff are they so afraind from it ? they should be the ones calling or it … sa7 walla la2 ya arze …
ma3leh sma7ouleh fiya bass 7ikko 3an **** ento w mante2koun l-a3wajjjj
8. libanon | April 3rd, 2008 at 11:17 am
*”wtf do u want more … don’t you that geagea did his time? or do u want more …”
>>>So you’re admitting that he’s a criminal who deserved to be put behid bars? Then why do you like him so much? Maybe cause you’re a criminal too
*”what about generalak … swarikh grad 3ala ain el-remmeneh kam atil i bra2ebto ? bi ghadd l-nazar 3an l-jeich yalli tarekon yi2talo hinne w 3am bidif3ou 3anno ?”
>>>yalle bya3mil el ti72i2 houwe yalle mesik el 7ikim, laken 2iza ma fi ti72i2 3ala wein nizlit kill hal sawarikh ya3ne yalle mesik el 7ikim rafid ta72i2, ya3ne aoun mich 2asif wala 2azife 3a manati2 madaniye.
W7ej t2ille kif tarak jnoudo ymouto, law ken 3erif 2inno elfrisawiye ma 7a ykhallou yfill min el safara ken 2akhad 3aylto ma3o 2abil ma tarak 2asr b3abda, wjnoudo meto la2an 2azeyif el LF wil souriye 2ata3it el2ittisalat w ma 2idro yitla2o el 2amir la el2istislem.
“wat about karameh … min kein l-mas2oul l3askareh 3an amen l-matar ?”
>>>There was an officer who helped geagea kill karame and was imprisoned, so?
“ta3 khabberneh 3an nabih berri …”
>>>Nabih birre wa7ad wate akhou*******ta, elsabab el wa7id 2inno houwe halla2 ma3 el mou3arada, wmich ma3 elfari2 yalle mafroud yintimi la2ilo, elharamiye wil mijirmeen wil zi3ran, houwe la2an 2iza mishi dodd hizballah ma byib2a wala shi3e ma3o. Shouf keef bisibbo la aoun 2inno 3ambi3attil 2intikhebet el ri2ese, shouf amal keef bishatbo mrasha7ee eltayyar bilna2ebet, shouf keef 2iyedetak bitdalla tdefi3 3anon(bikawlon 2innon amal houwe elfari2 el wa7id bilmou3arada yalle mich 3am yitsalla7). Aoun mit7elaf ma3 hizballah mish amal
9. Arze | April 3rd, 2008 at 11:25 am
Kezballah
the former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri was assassinated by a “criminal network”.
The criminal network in the world tribunal does not mean abu 3adas or abu shabke or abul 3abed or a group in Syria , Iran or Israel !
Its a F******* HUGE mOT*** FU***** NETWORK ! it means its an international network , that reaches who ever they want , and when ever they want ! they can reach you , me or Georges bush if they want ! and any time ! this is what is ment from a Criminal network ! We are not talking about a mob , or a regime or a small terrorist group ! we are talking about a Huge network whos been assaninating all the big guys in the world for dozens of years !
Nbah sawtna nahna wou nfaserlkon ! Lek its bigger then Syria ! la2a its syria ! ur defending syria WTF !!!!
The funny part is that one time you say Syria is behind extremist terrorist , and some other time you say AMERICA will spare Syria Because they dont want terrorist extremist to take over there regime in Damascus ! Decide ! is syria behind terrorism or not ? OR maybe it depends of ur analyses every month…
10. Rodge | April 3rd, 2008 at 11:47 am
to Arze and libanon,
First of all i hope we can trade ideas in a fully respectful way, or else i prefer not to enter in any discussion with you.
Arze first,
What N proposed in this post, is a fear that a deal would be made with a syrians to divert the investigations, and you know that this deal could be made, and it could have a very bad impact on Lebanon who’s the only country suffering.
what i will say in replying to ur comment, is that you really make the issue so “naive”, so are you really convinced that an international network will come to Lebanon just to assassinate some polotocians and journalists and sometimes ordinary people in the streets??? to make these kinds of actions, this organization should have a purpose, or maybe serving someone purpose, so who is that someone who will the most benefit from killing those people?? any hint Arze?? you should know better. now you will tell me the Americans and Israelis. so now the Syrians are innocent, and this international network was working in Lebanon since 1975 and even before.
the purpose i mentioned exists only with the Syrians, since till now, events proved they are the only ones who benefitted from these actions, and this is enough by itself to condemn them.
we should not take the issue for granted, Syria is the one who’s committing all these assassinations, and personally i may agree on a certain involvement from other parties, could be americans or israelis or whatever.
I will get back to you.
Now libanon,
from all the assassinations made, you just decided to choose some just to accuse Dr. Geagea.
in thsi regard, you choose the frangieh family murder without even mentioning the assassination of Bashir, which was and still the major event that hit Lebanon.
you also mentioned the schoold children massacre al mat7af, which is one among thousands during the war, el dibbat 3al 7ayt w majzarit nahr el mot?? seems you need to review some history my friend. or maybe read another book the the Oranginass. you said the killing of Rashid karame and the chamoun family. I agree with you on condemning all these killings, but I should tell you that history will prove that the Syrians were also the ones involved in, as well as some of the Army intelligence.
For both of you Arze and libanon,
I don’t know why you forgot all the assassinations in Lebanon since 1975, which were fully Syrians made. I will mention some to remind you.
Salim Lawzeh Editor of Al Hawadeth - Riad Taha former president of press association - Kamal Junblatt - Mufti Hassan Khaled - Bashir of course - Renee Mouawad - Ramzi Irani - Pierre Antonios etc… as well as thousands of Lebanese who were bombarded at homes and in the streets, and other explosions in many Lebanese areas during the war.
It seems you both have a bad memory, or it is concentrated on what the LF have done in the past, or let me say what they told you about what the LF did.
Syria is our worse ennemy, not only because it hurted us much more that any other country, but also because of the idea that Syria should be our neighbour, our friend, our brother etc…
when you are hit by ur ennemy you should accept that, but when u’re hit by ur friend u will feel betrayed and angry and many other feelings.
Admit it, Syria should be stopped from interfering in Lebanon.
11. Michele | April 3rd, 2008 at 11:50 am
Libanon ya Libanon? How old are u ya tante???
Don’t u think it’s better for u to go n watch Pokemon instead of writting these stupidities??!!!!
I swear i tried over n over to find some sense in ur comment but that was impossible. My IQ is too high to comprehend ur logic!
Libanon i know that u are looking up to Arze n Ali1559, and i must admit u are almost getting to their level, but don’t u have better things to do?
And bisharrafak, stop giving lame exuses for ur general, and start forming opinions of ur own. It’s very easy, just listen to him and watch him and u’ll find out what an a**hole he is.
12. Johnny.B | April 3rd, 2008 at 11:51 am
libanon,
mich 3am bis2alak 3an nabih berri la2anno ma7soub 3leiykoun aw chi … iza baddak bis2alak 3an joumblat w 3an el-jarayem yalleh rtakaba ,,, that’s not the point …
the point is that el-7akim l-wa7id yalleh nzalam w 7ammoulou mas2ouliyyet killl l-7areb el-libneiniyyeh …
about the airport, the l-matar w amnou lal l-ra2iss keinou bi mas2ouliyyet l-jeich yalleh kein wa2ta michel aoun ra2isso … fa jize2 kbir min l-mas2ouliyyeh byou2a3 3leh either for neglegtion or for conspiracy … you choose …
ba3dein … add ma ti7ki 3an l-mawdou3 … l-generale wa7ad kizzeb akhou charm— tarak rjeilo w harab bi ittifei2 soureh .. ba3atoulo 7beiy2a yharbo .. mazeil fall w tarak wleido wara … w 7atta fall min l-asr w l-7aras mich 3arfin … fa 7ki w barrer add ma baddak ,,, bass hayda manno rijjeil hayda wa7ad jabein … w l-ahbal menno yalle byetba3o w ma t3allam min yalli sar w 3emlo fiyon …
redd add ma baddak trid … hayda l-chi ma 7a yghayyer l-wei2i3
13. Michele | April 3rd, 2008 at 11:58 am
Arze, see what a bad influence u are on the kids like Libanon???!!!!
So u think that Syria is innocent from the Hariri’s assasination because Aoun said so a week ago.
Could u just explain to me why did Aoun in 2005 on a french TV network accused Syria for the Hariri’s assasination and today he changed his mind?
If u give me a plausible answer, i promise that i’ll get off ur back for good!
Yalla take ur shot ya helwé!!!!!
14. Ziyad | April 3rd, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Libanon and Arze…wonder which one is the most funny…
Libanon, briefly can you come back on your answer on aoun bombing civilian areas?? are you denying?? does it need investigation?? would a picture on my house in Ashrafieh and blood on walls back then help??
Then I like when you say that Berri is the exception of crooks in the opposition… What about the others?? enno slimi, lahoud, jammeel el sayyed, wiiam zabre ect are all chourafa?? niyelkon 3a hek charaf…and btw if yr friends the hizbis were soooooooooo honest why do they authorize amal that they controll 100% steel the country and all administartion as they do?? and is drug dealing and car steeling mél charif or is hermel not controlled by hizbis??? bass tan na3ref enlighten me ya zaki…
And arze ya arze…if hariri assasinations was huge international plot orchecstrated by the devil why did the lebanese police at that time clean the crime scene?? are sleiman frangié and ali el hajj part of this international plot. Find me an answer wbyetla3lik bawsé…
15. Johnny.B | April 3rd, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Michele,
you can’t blame aoun, he is mentally sick and he has schizofernia and alzhimer, ba3dein l-3omer ilo 7a22o
but you can blame stupid and ignorant people who beleive this clown and who have sold all of what they have from dignity ….
16. paul | April 3rd, 2008 at 12:26 pm
عون يريد تحرير المنطقة الشرقية.من من يريد
تحريرها؟من ساكنيها؟Elias Hrawi about 7arb 2ilgha2.
17. Michele | April 3rd, 2008 at 12:42 pm
But Johnny B. this is what kills me????
How could lebanese trust and support that senile?
The shiite u could understand them, for mutual interest but what about the christians?
Do they forget so easily??!!! And what upsets me even more is that some likes him coz they hate Geagea, and other like him coz they hate Hariri and i guess the rest like him as they are into the cult thing.
And honestly and seriously, i’ve never met any Aounist with a brain, and not only talking politically. Most of them are losers (professionally wise), frustrated and even with an inferiority complex.
I mean the Aounists here on the blog can confirm this!!!!! (no offense Arze n the rest)
18. Johnny.B | April 3rd, 2008 at 12:47 pm
hahahhaha
so true
the second paragraph sobtiya 100% w the third paragraph also :D:D:D
what you wrote should be an article on the main page :D:D:D
19. Michele | April 3rd, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Flattered Mr. Johnny.B
Soo ya Arze, no reply to my question?
hmmm, one of the 2 possibilities:
1) U definitely don’t have an answer and somehow deep in u, u know i have a point.
2) U do have a stupid answer but wont take the risk as I started growing on u and definitely don’t want me off ur back!
But at least answer Zyiad… Don’t u want a bawsé from him????
20. Tarek | April 3rd, 2008 at 1:42 pm
I don’t why you give much importance to whether syria killed PM Hariri or not. Syria is an enemy, it occupied Lebanon before and now it is still occupying part of it with it’s militias.
21. Filov | April 3rd, 2008 at 5:18 pm
from me to ARZE with love
i really hope that u wasn’t in ur full level of consciousness when u talked about us in this way… anyway;
1st, we don’t have alot of commun principles with what u called Lenin, stalin whatever!! they were tyrants, terrorists like syria and iran now!!!
2nd, we’re allied to the WEST and not to communist coutnries…
3rd, our name is very clear PROGRESSIVE SOCIALIST
4th, we saved OUR lebanon with what’s called 14 MARCH; and respect to all our allies for what we did and for what we’re passing through…
last, if u would like to increase ur knowledge and infos ya “ARZE” u can check the following link: http://www.psp.org.lb/Default.aspx?tabid=169&mid=972&ctl=ArticleView&articleId=9215
22. Rodge | April 3rd, 2008 at 6:20 pm
This was posted today in “Addyiar” newspaper:
قالت أوساط البطريرك صفير بأنه أصبح مقتنعاً بأن العماد عون يضع شروطاً لانتخاب الرئيس تناسب وضعه. وأضافت الأوساط ان عضواً في الرابطة المارونية وأحد نواب كسروان وآخر من تكتل الاصلاح قاموا بمشاورات من أجل الوصول الى تسوية حول مرشح توافقي حيث تم ابلاغ عون عنه فوافق ثم تم ابلاغ البطريرك فبارك الخطوة، وبعد موافقة جعجع عليه عاد عون وغيّر موقفه معتبراً ان هذا المرشح سيعمل على ايصال جعجع عند نهاية ولايته .
knowing who is the newspaper and his owner Charles Ayoub, and knowing his stand in the Lebanese conflict, I wonder what the Aounists will have to say now.
KHEDO SRAROUN MIN ZGHAROUN
Looooooolllll
23. paul | April 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
I hate this court
just because I may not be the executioner
24. Ali1559 | April 4th, 2008 at 8:36 am
All
Can a foreign and distrusted tribunal catch the criminals and establish secutity in lebanon? What about the past crimes?
Lebanon’s political problem can never be solved through what they call ” international tribunal”.
The current cost of saddam’s IRAQI tribunal is 12 billion dollars a month and I dont think America is willing to pay this kind of money over and over again. So expect delays guys and the 1000+ days (since hariri’s death) will reach 3000 days while you are still watching and waiting like you always do.
In defining CRIMINAL NETWORK, how long can we afford to wait till they capture the whole network ??!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lebanese leaders are blind, economy is down, the country is divided and a smart political vision is absent ! How much longer can we wait ?
25. kezballah | April 4th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Ali, 12 “billion” dollars per month?? billion? don’t you mean million?
Ali you talked about principles for resistance at the huge cost in the deaths and in the destroying of our houses, so you can not be worried about money to catch the criminals who are killing us. We are victims anf the victim is willing to wait much more than a 1000 days to catch the killers.
26. kezballah | April 4th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
PS: Nicola Michel said the tribunal already has $60 million. That’s one half year of trial at least
I wish they put it on TV this way we will see and judge with our eyes and they can make millions with commercials
27. Ali1559 | April 4th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
No kezballah , its 12 billion my freind !! This is the monthly cost for the war in Iraq after a shady internal saddam trial !!!
It’s your right to wait 10,000 days while taking advantage of the situation from advertisements to using cash money in order to spread the CRIMINAL NETWORK propaganda all around the world. But at the end of the day , are they really going to stop the criminals for doing what they are doing ????? This is the most important question buddy! Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me ! You cant fool me anymore by whats so called Criminal network kezballah . Lebanese are not fools.
PS : Go ahead and blame it on jamil al sayyed and ali al hajj . Always blame the weak !
28. Johnny.B | April 5th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Ali 1559,
habibi you shouldn’t be talking about these amount of money man, the July war to try to free samir kontar you costed the lebanese 15$ billion dollars and promised al-mal al-nazif …
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