Syria’s plan is prevailing ..
Posted by N10452I was discussing politics with a friend and was about to say to a friend of mine found of mine :
” Let them get us any president bass nokhlass ba2a” ..
Then i realized this is exactly how they want us to be, in despair and willing to accept any president but avoid chaos. This is Syria’s plan, this is Hezbollah’s plan, refusing all initiatives and wasting time while putting Nabih Berri as the moderator and the one willing to compromise and hold dialogues …
Christians will be the ones losing in either scenarios :
- Whether no president is elected, both Sunnites & Shiites wont be as affected as Christians.
- Or a weak president if weakened, we will get more divided and 6 extra years of weak presidency.
Europeans came here and united Christian leaders and asked them clearly to avoid a chaotic situation, and meetings are being held ( Amine-Aoun yesterday) and hopefully Aoun-Geagea next week, but i truly dont see any positive outcome.
Only History will judge us for this big mistake we are about to make, and only the people will suffer from it while our leaders are enjoying life in their fortresses and villas.
Sad … so sad.
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1. Danny | October 22nd, 2007 at 8:14 pm
You are despairing too early. There will not be a weak president. Trust me if I say, HA does not want Aoun as he will flip on them the moment he’s elected…
2. Maroun | October 22nd, 2007 at 8:41 pm
Sorry N, but this looks like the whining of a 65 year-old granny whose understanding of political intricacies is as consistent as Winnie the Pooh’s take on global warming.
In all your post, (and i read it 4 times) i failed to see the word “lebanese”, please correct me if i’m wrong but all i see is “christians”, “sunnis” and “shiites”. This says something now does it?
Your “fear” that the “christians” are the ones who will lose the most in the outcome of a presidential vaccum is rather simplistic.
Mind you, N, that in the south you have a full metal jacket and in the north (& Beirut’s Mayflower) you have what Fisk calls Saad Hariri’s embryo militias. Needless to say that the Shouf is no better, and neither is the IDF’s leadership’s statements reassuring. The Syrians have bought considerable amounts of anti-aircraft missiles and some new MIGs the past 3-4 years, a NATO armada is sitting on our front lawn and Ahmedi Najad is threatening by 11000 divine missiles per minute, Turkey is no chicken, and the Kurds owe a lot to the american Pfizer treatment.
In this super-mega-sized elephant, Lebanon can soon cease to exist, me, my druze friend, my shiite cousin, my armenian neighbour, my sunni banker and my budhist girlfriend are all going to be trampled under giant Big Macs and you’re still thinking that a presidential vaccum is only catastrophic to “christians”.
Can’t wait to read more.
3. fad14 | October 22nd, 2007 at 9:39 pm
I so want to comment on several posts that I have seen in the past 2 weeks but I am resisting that. I am seeing more comments also that are worth commenting on and still resisting.
In summary here are the views I noticed in comments and in posts:
- LF is going soft, sunnies are taking over
- Christians are losing out, muslims will rule the country
- Aoun will destroy the christians to become president
- LF is always right throghout history
- Christians deserve to be treated better than the others
- Federalism is the answer regardless of how it will be done.
- Christians are better than muslims and more just and more civilized and dont want to take over the country.
- Muslims always massacred christians and LF and Kataeb were always in defence or responded moderately during the war.
- christians had a holy cause and the rest were just trying to islamize lebanon.
for that there is one answer which comes from history:
A nation or race will defend itself without WHATEVER means necessary when confronted with the danger of extinction till they reach one of 2 points:
1) lose and really head towards extinction
2) win and head towards leading the others to extinction thus creating a similar REACTION from the threatened race,party,sect.
Our war since the palestinians came was dirty. part of it was for survival, part of robbery and part for power.
Palestinians SINNED first
Muslims and druze defended them
christians realized they will become extinct
they fought back
they attacked everybody
massacres started from BOTH SIDES, all done in the name of country or religion or Revenge.
Fighting continued but now it became for stealing banks and shops.
masscares on both SIDES all in the name of the country, faith and survival.
IT was a dirty war, i is stil now. LF,Kataeb, Ahrar, HA, Amal, Ishtirakieh, Mourabitoun, Kawmiheh, Fateh, Sa3ika, and Syrians and Our beloved ARMY all massacrred people, and most of the time innocent
There was no cause, there was no reason for massacres, it was for stealing and for POWER.
Each leader thought he is the solution.
Yasser Arafat, Pierre Gmayel, Michael Aoun, Bashir Gmayel, Elie Hbaika, Nabih Berri, Hassan Nasrallah, Walid Jumblatt, Hafez Al Assad, Emile Lahoud , only naming a few of a big list.
A Sunni sitting in his home and going to work everyday, doesnt want to kick christians from lebanon. A Christian who wans to go to church on sunday doesnt want to kick all muslims out. a Shiite living in dahyeh cause its cheap doesnt even care who rules the country as long as he can live.
THE REAL THREAT IS ON THE PEACE AND PROSPERITY OF LEBANON and not on christians or sunnis or shiaas.
This threat is coming from political or ideological parties and not from people and not from sects and not from religions.
4. Good | October 22nd, 2007 at 10:56 pm
Two Words
Damianos Kattar
5. jean | October 23rd, 2007 at 5:30 am
HEY,
I LIVE IN THE USA AND WAS SO HAPPY TO SEE YOU POST THE LBCI NEWS AND PROGRAMS OF MAY AND MARCEL GHANEM… WHY DID U STOP?? PLEASE POST THEM BACK.
THANKS
6. mikel | October 23rd, 2007 at 6:02 am
Zahle people are so funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sSpqGOhA74
7. N10452 | October 23rd, 2007 at 8:54 am
Maroun,
We are talking here internal politics and not geopolitical regional politics …
Unfortunatelly, you are the one who totally misunderstood the post .. and i wanna take it ur way .. Christians have a major role in this whole ‘conspiracy’ you just stated and if they lose their role in Lebanon, it will affect Lebanon and deeply drag it into the regional fights ..
8. Maroun | October 23rd, 2007 at 9:21 am
N,
internal quagmire or astral cosmic gravity pull, we agree it’s interconnected.
Your post was quite clear, but it seems you missed mine.
salt and pepper aside, i was only pointing your attention that the sentence: “Christians will be the ones losing in either scenarios” is like worrying about the car radio when a 18 wheeler is coming our way at 200 miles/h on the autobahn.
“christians” will sure be between a rock and a hard spot, but their role has become insignificant and both the rock and the hard spot will also meet their creator in bits and pieces after the elephants do their gig, Including Hezbollah and Syria. No one will be left.
Let’s face it, we’re all in it together and we’re all going to face Belzebuth, internally and externally.
Come to think of it, “syria’s plan is prevailing” is only valid if i-was-elected-with-blood bashar is nothing but a certified suicidal maniac who’s base jumping wearing a cast iron parachute.
The Lord does work in mysterious ways, he did send the flood a couple of ice ages ago.
9. N10452 | October 23rd, 2007 at 10:30 am
Hello Maroun,
Indeed we are all in together .. i guess we are sharing the same thoughts but am keeping it internal and addressing Christians primarily here ..
I truly hope that the Lord will help us this time, cause am starting to feel he s fed up with us
10. Maroun | October 23rd, 2007 at 10:54 am
N, just a small insignificant question:
why are you addressing “primarily” christians?
i mean, does the christians differ from other Lebanese in terms of rights, responsibilities and destiny so that they have a different role than other people who are non-christians as you have mentioned in your 8:54?
I believe we will always be facing the same tribal problems if we still accept to engage in tribal roles.
11. Maroun | October 23rd, 2007 at 10:56 am
Oh by the way, i disagree on the “I truly hope that the Lord will help us this time”, for all i know we are all in this mess because of the almighty himself.
“kell wa7ad 3a dino alla y3ino” can hold as much contradictions in itself as a sentence but as an idea it makes sense.
12. arze | October 23rd, 2007 at 2:29 pm
No maroun ….There is one lord ….And hes fed up with us , if not us , at least he is fed up with the chrstians in leb
13. Maroun | October 23rd, 2007 at 6:41 pm
arze, he’s fed up with all lebanese, afterall, according to christian theology, they are all his “children”.
According to Maroun’s theology (me), we are a godless people living in the holiest of countries.
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