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• 1. mountain | April 10th, 2008 at 9:38 pm

  since when the LFers listen to Adwan or sarkis or or or or…

• 2. Johnny.B | April 10th, 2008 at 9:56 pm

  Don’t Jump to conclusions so quickly, it might be a political maneuver .. just give it time and you will hear the answer …

• 3. N10452 | April 10th, 2008 at 9:59 pm

  wlik 7eje t2elle political maneuver !!! who does political maneuvers at this level ??

  bitghayyir ur ideology and principles for political games ??? chou hal 7ake hayda !!

• 4. Mar Yuhanna Maroun | April 10th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

  Adwan? Jadbe Kbir w 3atile’

• 5. paul | April 10th, 2008 at 10:12 pm

  lak michel l murr w2a3lan 2isti2lelo!!!

  lhay2a sabito virus 3aoun wbaddo ya3mil ra2is.

• 6. horton | April 10th, 2008 at 10:21 pm

  Do not take things out of context….. From the whole article, all that he said, this is what you understood?!!!

  This is his whole answer.

  - حددتُ المشاكل في إجابتي على السؤال السابق . وهل كثير ان يطلب لبنان ان توقف سورية تسليح الفلسطينيين المرتبطين بها والمتمركزين خارج المخيمات وأحياناً بداخلها والذين لا علاقة لهم إطلاقاً بالقضية الفلسطينية والذين وغالباً ما تظهر أدوار لهم في كلّ مرة تحصل زعزعة للاستقرار في لبنان؟ وهل يعقل ان سورية لا تساعدنا في ترسيم الحدود في مزارع شبعا لاستعادة حقوقنا وأرضنا المحتلة؟ والواقع ان سورية تتعاطى مع مزارع شبعا على انها لغم يجب ان يبقى جاهزاً لتحريكه في وجه اسرائيل انطلاقاً من لبنان في حين تنعم الحدود السورية بالامن وفيما نرى تبادُل الرسائل المستمرّ بين السوريين والاسرائيليين. فهل كُتب على لبنان ان يكون لوحده الساحة المتفجرة مع ما ينعكس ذلك على اقتصاده وأمنه واستقراره وقيام دولته؟ وهنا أقول انه في الصراع العربي ـ الاسرائيلي، نحن حلفاء سورية ومعها في خندق واحد، ولبنان سيكون آخر دولة عربية توقّع السلام مع اسرائيل، وهذا أمر محسوم بالنسبة الينا. وفي موازاة ذلك، لا نريد ان يبقى لبنان النقطة الوحيدة المشتعلة في المنطقة و “صندوق بريد” لتوجيه الرسائل الى اسرائيل، في حين ان كل الدول العربية الأخرى تنعم بالاستقرار والاطمئنان. وأذكر هنا انه في الصيف الماضي لم يكن في لبنان موسم للسياحة بينما كانت السياحة مزدهرة في سورية التي تنعم بالهدوء رغم ان مساحة واسعة من أراضيها لا تزال تحت الاحتلال. وفي رأيي ان المشكلة الفعلية تكمن هنا، وليس في وزير بالزائد او وزير بالناقص ولا في ما نسمعه من شعارات وعناوين كالمشاركة.

  فنحن مَن يطلب ان تكون لنا مشاركة في قرار السلم والحرب الذي هو اليوم خارج الدولة اللبنانية، اي ان ما يجري على مستوى النزاع مع اسرائيل هو خارج الدولة اللبنانية ولا حول ولا قوة فيه لأي لبناني. فهل يجوز ان تبقى أرضنا مستباحة وكذلك شعبنا لنكون، ليس حتى ورقة مجابهة، بل ورقة مقايضة فقط؟ اذاً هذا لبّ المشكلة، وهنا نطلب من العرب مساعدتنا على وقفه. ويعلم العرب ان لبنان دفع لوحده خلال ثلاثين عاماً ثمن الصراع العربي ـ الاسرائيلي، وما زلنا مستعدين لان نقوم بدورنا على اكمل وجه على هذا الصعيد لان هناك قضية محقة هي القضية الفلسطينية، ونحن فيها مع الإخوة العرب والفلسطينيين ، ولكن في الوقت نفسه لم نعد نقبل ان نكون ورقة مقايضة وساحة الصراع الوحيدة في حين يعمّ الاستقرار في كل مكان

• 7. Patriot | April 10th, 2008 at 10:38 pm

  Post Nb 1: ’since when the LFers listen to Adwan or sarkis’ Poast Nb 4 ‘Adwan? Jadbe Kbir w3atile’ :
  those are your Christian minister and your nb 2…who is left?? Strida????lolllll
  Hakim tej raskon lolllll…how pathetic….wala law bachir ba3do tayeb laken hara2kon wahad wahad

• 8. Toufic | April 10th, 2008 at 10:41 pm

  I think johnny B is right.Let’s wait and see
  Toufic

• 9. Patrick | April 10th, 2008 at 11:19 pm

  ana ma3 samir geagea hatta almawt. these words (i.e., ‘na7nu ma3 suriyya daad israil’, etc.) are not from geagea; they are from adwan.

  on the other hand, adwan is not just anyone in LF; he’s our VP. and it is our right to know who gave adwan the green light to talk like this. even if he is speaking just for himself and for the LFers who follow him, that’s fine, but let him step down as VP and stop pretending to represent the LF as a whole, and stop speaking on behalf of LF as a whole, when his words run counter to everything we stand for and have stood for from the beginning.

  our fight has never been with israel. not only is this the historic position of LF, but this is how the overwhelming majority of LFers see things to this day. however, even for those of us who are against israel, let our opposition to israel be ours. ye3ny if some LFers are against israel, they are free to say they are against israel, tab3an; but don’t say we are against israel ‘ma3 suriyya.’ come on. that’s just a shame.

  this cannot be excused as a political maneuver. first of all, it is a blatant lie. second, it’s a blatant lie at a very high level (VP). and third, it can only hurt our position with regard to israel, as well as syria, and weaken us politically. and all that, to say nothing of the fact that these words come across as if spoken by a man who sees the collapse of 14 march power on the horizon, and he’s talking as if he’s scared.

  well we are not scared of anything. as the old saying goes, ‘we have no fear for anyone but god and god alone.’

  allah ouwet hakim w bass.

• 10. nostraa | April 10th, 2008 at 11:25 pm

  i´t got to hurt 4 u Lfer? haha

• 11. ziad-italy | April 10th, 2008 at 11:59 pm

  yeah well it is explainable , he meant , that when it comes to isreal , we are with sirians against isreal , u cant go with syria against isreal , even if we all wish for that , becoz of our freaking arabic affiliation (wich we strongly dont think of it ) …
  but again you cant go against all the arabic countries and say i m with isreal against syria …

• 12. Baron | April 11th, 2008 at 12:00 am

  What the hell? Did he really say that? When? I need to hear it.. I can’t believe it, I’d quit the LF right away if this is true.

• 13. Mar Yuhanna Maroun | April 11th, 2008 at 12:05 am

  Patriot! sorry enta jadbe aktar min Adwan Y hable…

• 14. Patrick | April 11th, 2008 at 1:20 am

  i understood exactly what he said. it’s explainable; it’s just not excusable. it is simply not true that when it comes to israel we are with syria against israel.

  i agree that we cannot say we are with israel against syria. however, we need to remember two things. first, this has nothing to do with going against the arabs. if most lebanese saw israel as an ally and a friend, we would have no problem to go against the arab countries on this issue. so the reason we don’t say we’re with israel against syria is not because we can’t be against arabs. that’s wrong. we can be against arabs; we just can’t be against lebanon. the second thing is this: nobody is suggesting that we should say this. neither one is true. we are not with syria against israel, and we are not with israel against syria. we are with lebanon, w bas.

• 15. Patrick | April 11th, 2008 at 1:24 am

  georges adwan should RESIGN AS LF VP!!!

• 16. zoro | April 11th, 2008 at 1:26 am

  If you know the LF you will know that no one speaks a word without clearing it with Geagea. No one is allowed to make such a shift in our ideology without the OK from Geagea.

  Maybe now you should understand why so many rifa’ are against what is going on inside the LF. Why the rule of one person and hijacking the resistance is not allowed anymore.

• 17. Tarek | April 11th, 2008 at 2:08 am

  ya3ni fina n2ool ni7na ma3 soria dod israel …. ma3nawiyan!!! I think from the overall interview this is what can be understood …. However I’m still against such statement, cause both the syrian regime and israel are enemies, in addition they are not in a war, they are almost in peace unlike us … I don’t think 3adwan got any “green light” to say that, he seems to have tried to be creative and failed …

• 18. jim | April 11th, 2008 at 3:48 am

  thts wht happens when u relate ur alliances with ur ideology just for the sake of keeping ur allies and their crowds happy, and forget ur own crowd!! im an ouweteh but they r doin a big mistake now by shifting history.. dnt play with fire adwan.. we r a political independant party with our owwnnn principles! we do not owe anythin 2 any1

• 19. Mourakib | April 11th, 2008 at 5:49 am

  I guess you guys are putting the statement out of context and it will be naive if you beleive that LF will fight with Syria against Israel. I guess, in his sofisticated way, Mr. Adwan was trying to say that LF are not going to pressure Syria through a renewed alliance with Israel… I have to agree that he is not the best public speaker.
  Do not let The ideology arguments become a demagogy!

• 20. jim | April 11th, 2008 at 6:32 am

  AGAIN I REPEAT WHT I SAID WE DO NOT OWE A THING TO ANY1, EVERY1 ELSE OWES US..

• 21. hamilkar | April 11th, 2008 at 6:57 am

  It is unfair to expect a politician to live in private up to the statements he makes in public.
  Relax it is politics guys.

• 22. fad14 | April 11th, 2008 at 8:45 am

  I think its the same statement that Syrian has issued for years, they will always support is if Israel attacks us and WE will support them the same way. After all they did nothing and I think Adwan is starting to play the proper public game that Syria PLAYS.

  DO YOU WANT HIM TO SAY WE WILL SIT AND WATCH ???
  FOR ONCE WE ARE A LITTLE BIT SMARTER POLITICALLY, LET IT PASS.

• 23. Rodge | April 11th, 2008 at 8:57 am

  N10452,

  With all my respect, I think this time u’re wrong. It is just an answer to a question in an interview, and yes when it comes to the conflict with Israel, no one can say that we are with Israel against the Arabs, any Arab.
  You know how much I respect you and your opinions, and I see that u’re right in many criticisms for the current LF politics, but this time allow me to say that you became so sensitive towards some LF officials, or maybe towards some statements.
  In spite of all I said, I highly respect what you said in this posting, but we should not be so sensitive and extremist in our politics.
  the LF leadership is clearly against the Syrian regime, and they are ready to fight him, and I don’t think anyone can doubt this, but we should allow them to say something just to deny the accusations of dealing with the Israelis and the Americans.
  Another thing, what Adwan said is the same thing that has been said by many LFers, and during the Old LF as you described it, maybe it was said by other words but the same meaning.
  The same thing has been said a thousand times by Pierre Gemayel and Camille Chamoun and other of our great politicians.
  So in conclusion, dear N you’re making a lot of an insignificant thing.

• 24. Patriot | April 11th, 2008 at 10:39 am

  Mar Yuhanna Maroun

  Thank you

  i will update my earlier post based on your (#10) to be:

  Post Nb 1: ’since when the LFers listen to Adwan or sarkis’
  Post Nb 4 ‘Adwan? Jadbe Kbir w3atile’ :
  Post Nb 10: ‘Patriot! sorry enta jadbe aktar min Adwan Y hable…’
  those are your Christian minister, your nb 2, and your enlighten supporters arguments’

  who and what is left?? Strida????lolllll
  Hakim tej raskon lolllll…how pathetic….wala law bachir ba3do tayeb laken hara2kon wahad wahad

• 25. The Marshall | April 11th, 2008 at 10:51 am

  I do not accept such behaviour … something common with GMA !

• 26. Bachir 7ay Fina | April 11th, 2008 at 12:46 pm

  Kel choghel el ouwet halla2 ma byeswa.
  iza el ouwet ma badda tekhoud el initiative bel 2echya chou naf3a.
  sarlna 3 snin natrin men 14march 2005 la ekhir chi yotla3 ma3 14 march mracha7 metel michel sleimen ma3rouf akbar kaleb soure.
  bi 3ahed michel sleimen keno el masi7iyeh 30% bel jeich, fa chou hal masi7é li bado yraje3elna dawerna.

• 27. Ziyad | April 11th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

  uff uff uff what a big fuss being done about nothing…what Adwan meant was that we were not siding with Israel concerning the Arab Israeli conflict wawwwwwwwwwww!!! what a scandal, this has always been the position of the Lebanese Christians from Camille Chamoun to Pierre Gemayel…Bashir made at one stage an alliance with Israel because he needed them militarily but once he had the choice he turned against them as he knows that an alliance with Israel is wrong both ideologically and practically for lebanese christians…

  May be Adwan didn’t express himself properly but this is what was meant and this is the position that the LF should have and actually has. Those in the LF who still think that Israel is their friend and the Arabs their enemy should probably buy themselves a brain or join Pussy and his likes…and like Pussy or like Hobeika before him their refusal of “arabs” will soon lead him to alliances with Iran or Syria…

• 28. Ziad | April 11th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

  Let war break between Syria and Israel and we’ll see. We might support Syria in a nice press release, to satisfy our Lebanese partners (and not only our partners in M14).
  I am with Switzerland when war breaks between Switzerland and Luchenstein.

• 29. libanon | April 11th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

  “If Hakim doesnt reply to that or correct it, i am afraid i will have to change Samir Geagea tej raskoun to “Ken tej rasoun””
  Yeah, sure you will.

  “i do not know if this is the same person i defended and stood for before.”
  Actually he is, but your way of rewriting history has gotten you to believe your own propaganda about geagea’s “glorious” past.

• 30. wassim | April 11th, 2008 at 2:31 pm

  عدوان: نحن حلفاء سوريا في الصراع العربي ـ الإسرائيلي

  hahahahahaha shatrin te7ko 3al general eno soure????? hahahahaha wle hayde ma 7ada men l tayyar ba3ed 2ela:P hahahahaha la2 ktir hal2ad:D

• 31. roch | April 11th, 2008 at 2:56 pm

  stop arguing about nothing
  Adwan is not stupid…

  Syria will never fight isreal
  by saying we will ally to syria when it fights isreal, he is just teasing the syrians about their wars with isreal

  dont judge people on comments, judge them on nothing they say anyway

  when they DO something wrong, then we will…

• 32. Patrick | April 11th, 2008 at 2:59 pm

  Ziyad charmouta inta, I don’t know any LFers who view Israel as a brother, but what we all say is that there is no reason to see Israel as the devil and Syria as our brother.

  And for the record, if you call refusing to give his permission for the IDF to advance as far as Beirut ‘turning his back,’ you are just being creative. Bachir Gemayel never promised Israel this, so not giving it to them cannot be considered turning his back. It is an INSULT to Bachir Gemayel to say he would turn his back on anyone to whom he gave his word, even if that ‘anyone’ is Israel. The word of Bachir Gemayel is the word of Bachir Gemayel. The truth is, you don’t always give your friends what they want. It doesn’t mean you turned your back on them. How dare you suggest that he would do something like that. And I say friends in this case because even if we are not friends today, we offered friendship to the Israelis at the time, and we *were* friends at the time. It wasn’t purely out of necessity.

  Anyway, there are many Lebanese, not only in LF and kataeb (and guardians, if you want to include them), but also FPM and ex-SLA, who are not ashamed to say “Sharon was the best.” I don’t think an alliance with Israeli is wrong practically or ideologically, I just think it cannot be pursued against the will of the majority of Lebanese Christians (regardless of their affiliation). Those of us who see friendship with Israel as something which could benefit us are not free to impose it on the majority who see the opposite. And we know that.

  But where do you get off calling Christians who look favorably on Israel pussies? Ayri fik ya charmouta, was Bach a pussy? Was Hobeika a pussy? Is Geagea a pussy? You sound like an FPMer, but even FPMers knows Aoun’s true views on Israel (as they should), and they are NOT Nasrallah’s views AT ALL.

  Last of all, HOBEIKA WAS A KING, and once again, there are many in LF *and* FPM who see that.

  You should kneel to the ground in respect everytime you hear ANY of these names, Bachir Gemayel, Sharon, Hobeika, and Geagea.

• 33. Patrick | April 11th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

  I take that back about you sounding like an FPMer; I never heard an FPMer in my life who had such a backwards idea of Bach, Israel and Hobeika. In fact, as an LFer for life, even though I am against what FPM is doing, we all know how FPMers see Bach, and we all know their true views of Hobeika, Israel/Sharon, alkhyam prison, etc., no matter what they tell their Hezbollah allies. In fact, we all know their true views of Hezbollah, too.

  So it was an insult to all FPMers for me to say you sound like one, and I take it back.

• 34. Johnny.B | April 11th, 2008 at 6:45 pm

  btw,

  where did u read this ?

• 35. Johnny.B | April 11th, 2008 at 6:50 pm

  N10452,

  next time you read such news, try to understand the whole meaning of what he said and don’t just pick words out from the sentence …

  if you don’t mind please post the whole paragraph of what he said, and analyse what he said, read between the lines, it’s politics my friend, it’s a high school history book that you take each word literary.

  if you want to criticize, I suggest you criticise the whole paragraph not just 3 words that if separated from the paragraph make an entire different meaning.

• 36. Ali1559 | April 11th, 2008 at 7:29 pm

  Wassim

  It’s insanity. The LF principle is in the toilet. Everbody blames everbody . The idea of shame has flown out the window. Geagea is living a joke where lies are truth. F.sanioura is their leader . And M.sleiman is running for office? They want him!!

  Ekhhh, I feel bad for them .

• 37. Patriot | April 11th, 2008 at 7:37 pm

  AND THIS IS AFTER THE FAMOUS VISIT OF Ga3ga3 to the US!
  SEEMS THAT TOP LFERS ARE STARTING TO LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT AMERICAN PLOITICS….NO GAIN FROM BLINDLY SUPPORTING THE US, THEY GOT NOTHING SO THEY ARE TRYING TO GET SMART

• 38. Elie.F. | April 11th, 2008 at 8:35 pm

  dakheel alla bala habal, N 10452 baddo shwayy min samir geagea w baddo shwayy min ghayro, ya N remember el teez el ni2ele mish shighele.
  LTIZIM BI HIZBAK YA WALAD, W KHALLI EL TI7LEELET EL SAKHIFE LA HADAN GHAYRNA.

• 39. Bachir SAYEGH | April 11th, 2008 at 8:55 pm

  i agree with patrick , i am against Israel , because its a terrorist state that cant be trusted , let’s not forget the Mountain War , i would have agreed with Adwan when he says we are against Israel , no problem here for me bass allies with Syria in its fight against Israel ??WTF , this is total bullshit !!!
  bass mech mechekle man , bi3on 7akké la jame3et el 3awniye wel marada , we all know what our principles are , who cares if adwan kab kelme metel el mastoul , ella ma ykou fi chi 3awne za2aflo :))

• 40. Anonymous | April 11th, 2008 at 9:04 pm

  N10452 I have a question for you and I hope you’ll answer:
  Since Geagea did not (and I don’t think he will) clarify, or “apologize” or fire Adwan, then and according to your post, you are “resigning” from the LF and Geagea is no longer up to your expections. SO you should stop this blog, create a new one with a more neutral and independant name than “Ouwet”. Finally you realized something which took me also quite a long time to realize: Aoun, Geagea, etc… It’s all the same crap. You’ll tell me at least Geagea went to prison and didn’t hide in an embassy like the other coward/general. I’ll say ok…BUT what good is it to go to jail to get out and become like he is today?! My answer: USELESS.
  I’m telling all the shit the Christians are facing is because of these two men… In the entire history of the Christians in Lebanon never have two “leaders” been so harmful to the community.
  I understand and respect your love and admiration for the LF…Bashir’s LF. Unfortunately my friend, Bashir died a long time ago and there will never be another Bashir. The LF we all dream of will never be. The sooner you realize this and start thinking of Lebanon (and the Christians) first the better.
  I’m 31 years old, I live in NYC and I’m disgusted everytime I hear or read the news but I can’t help doing that because I love this fucking country and it’s because of these 2 jerks A&G that I’m stuck in the states.
  But to be fair, I have to say it’s more A’s fault than G’s.

• 41. libanon | April 11th, 2008 at 9:10 pm

  Ya N 1045*, I’m sure that next sunday, if M14 win in the na2ebe, you will start bragging about it in a new post, as if all you have said now is forgotten.

  But I have to tell you that you really fuc*ed up in this post, you said something we can hold against you later. I mean you know very well that geagea isn’t going to reply or correct Adwan’s statement, so how are you going to post again after saying “R.I.P ya Ouwet !”, how are you going to explain why your next post isn’t entitled “Ken tej rasoun”?

• 42. Elie.F. | April 11th, 2008 at 11:13 pm

  LIBANON u right in this, did u c ya N 10452?
  I mean never say something that can be used against you.As for what libanon said about the (ken tej raskon)he is right too and i want to add something more,change the name of this site from OUWET.COM, to SOMETIMES OUWET.COM AND SOMETIMES NOT OUWET .COM.

• 43. lebnan_united | April 12th, 2008 at 12:54 am

  Patrick,

  As a Lebanese you should be against Israel. Tell me what has Israel given Lebanon other than the burden of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees and 50 years of wars and destruction?

  Israel is not Lebanon’s friend. Israel is not a friend of the Lebanese Christians. In fact Israels interests are diametrically opposite to the interests of Christian Lebanese.

  Israel used the Lebanese Christians and dumped them when their use expired or Israels interest trumped that of the Christian side. The Mountain war is one example. The south Lebanon army is another.

  There is no shame in saying you are against Israel. In fact you will earn yourself alot more respect if you are against Israel.

  The only people that should feel shame are the donkey Arabs, they the ones that kiss the boot of Israeli officials in return for favours. You really want to be in the same class as Mahmoud Abass, Hosni Mubarak, King of Jordan and the other little men of politics?

• 44. lebnan_united | April 12th, 2008 at 12:56 am

  N10452,

  Adwan says he is against Israel. where is the scandal man?

  I never knew of any LF official who ever said he was with Israel.

• 45. sniper | April 12th, 2008 at 4:26 am

  N10452, I have seen more flip-flop views from you than my ass have seen public toilets.
  Grow up and learn. In this world nothing is free ya mayme. You want to fight Israel and Syria both at the same time ehhh. Well while you’re at it why don’t you pick another enemy state or two. The LF paid in blood for this country, in my home town every house lost a son, a father, a husband, a brother. Why can’t we sell them words, why must we always pay in blood.
  Syria and Israel won’t ever go to war unless the stage is Lebanon. The man is alluding to that very same fact telling Syria, you go ahead and we’ll support you. When they go ahead, we’ll revisit the later part.

  Chill man.

• 46. georges daher | April 12th, 2008 at 8:23 am

  ohh, now our historical line was to be allied with israel against syria?????
  our historical line was to preserve our alliance with israel ya jame3a??????
  are you really LFers????????
  our martyrs died because they were defending our alliance with israel, or defending israel against syria??????
  sorry bass min ken wara khisarit l ouwet l lebneniyeh hareb l jabal????????
  mini ken wara majezir hareb l jabal, w min sallah l druze men wara l tawleh, min be3na nehna l masihiyeh????????
  min yalli nsahab bi layleh ma fiya daw 2amar men l jnoub w tarak jeish lahed lahalo bwejj hezeb allah hatta ya3mil bi 2ensihebo hareb ahliyeh bel balad w madebih jdideh???????
  wlo w3ou ba2a…
  chouhade2na keno 3am bimouto kermel ydef3o 3an lebnen w mech 3an tahalouf ma3 israel, nehne b3omorna ma ken taheloufna ma3 israel 2ella men chen maslahit l woujoud la tmedna bel slehh…
  lamman dawleh 3arabiyeh madetna bel sleh (IRAK) doghreh DSG wa2af yjib sleh men israel w sakkar kell maketib l mosad bel shar2iyeh.
  wlek menloum l 3alam kif 3am bizawro terikhna w nehna ma mna3erfo la terikhna, w nehna 2awal 3alam 3am menzawro…
  I am LFer, w ana b2elkoun nehna ma3 souriya bel hareb ma3 israel, w nehan dod souriya bel tadakhoul bi shou2ounna l dekhiliyeh.
  nehna ma3 souriya bi harba ma3 israel, w dod souriya la hatta treddelna l mou3ta2alin men soujouna, w ta3mel tamsil diplomeseh, w trassim l hdoud…
  this is what LF stand for…

• 47. john | April 12th, 2008 at 6:29 pm

  Posting such an article………..
  I like LF “free of speech”
  Keep it up.

• 48. sniper | April 12th, 2008 at 9:16 pm

  georges daher, you hit the nail on its head in your latest post. Israel isn’t our friend, it’s our menace as I indicated in previous postings. N comes up with these banner headers that do nothing but embolden our alliances to the current LF because it is at times like these that we must stay united. One previous post, he quoted an article from an israeli newspaper city “the lebanese forces of samir geagea” and right there I called him on it. The Israelis will benefit greatly from the weakening or exodus of christians from Lebanon making it a perfect home for the refugees.

• 49. Patrick | April 13th, 2008 at 12:07 am

  libnan_united,

  why do you blame hundreds of thousands of palestinian refugees on israel and israel alone? why don’t you mention jordan in this sentence? well the truth is, it’s neither israel’s nor jordan’s fault, and at the same time it is all the arabs’ fault, not only jordan’s. how come we don’t blame ourselves for accepting them? jordan accepted them because they have a heart, but what was their thanks to jordan? to use jordan as a base against israel, and bring hell to the jordanian people. lebanon accepted them because lebanese have a heart, and what is their thanks? to use lebanon as a base against israel, and bring hell to the lebanese people…

  and why are their refugees in the first place? if you remember–and lebanon is included in this–all the arab countries declared war on israel in 1948, and three (with help from the rest) declared war again in 1967, telling the palestinians to leave their houses, go to jordan, go to syria, go to lebanon, go to egypt… leave, and when we kill all the jews, and drive them into the sea, you can return to your homes, and palestine will be yours. so they did that, but, lo and behold, the arabs lost! and today, i don’t see anyone admitting this was a mistake, or attributing the refugee problem to this mistake.

  well why the hell not?

  listen, i don’t care about respect. if i cared about respect more than principles, i would have declared my opposition to israel a long time ago. clearly, i care about principles more than respect, which is why i have no shame in saying what i say, no matter what people are going to think about me because of it. words are not a game. it’s an insult to me to tell me, “hey, if you say like we say, we’ll respect you more…”

  regarding israel and the SLA, that can not be placed on israel en totale (since hundreds of thousands of israelis think abandoning the SLA was one of israel’s worst mistakes ever, given its long-term impact on israel’s relationship to lebanese christians, who othewise could have continued be a strong ally for them), not to mention the fact that this is more a problem with ehud barak being a pussy than with israel’s position either on lebanon or lebanese christians.

  finally, how can you even think to put king hussein in the same sentence with mubarak or abbas? king hussein is a wise and very good king, whereas mubarak and abbas… well, ‘nough said.

• 50. B.R | April 13th, 2008 at 7:56 am

  R.I.P 14th of march , ouwet died long time ago .

• 51. Patrick | April 13th, 2008 at 5:51 pm

  King Abdullah II*

• 52. kris | April 13th, 2008 at 10:45 pm

  ma fhmet wein el ghallat bi yalleh 2allo 3edwan..we are against israel…w ma finna ne3tebir souriya 3adouweh w n7arebba..mnetla3a ne7na el khesranin..so im 100% ma3 3edwein…long life LF…

• 53. nas | April 14th, 2008 at 1:04 am

  dear n10452,
  first of all badde hannik 3a hal site la2an 3atoul l topics 3am ykouno interresting
  about this subject, most of us know enno georges 3edwen w joe sarkis bye7ko b mel w ba2iyet l ouwet bte7ke b mel, w hayda l shi 3am ydor l ouwet w 3am yez3ejna metel ma 3am yez3ouj l dr. geagea, ma fina nloum samir geagea 3a 7akyoun la2anoun rekbo bel formation taba3 l ouwet wa2ta ken ba3do bel 7abes w kenet l ouwet mesh makmoushe mni7, meshkeltna enno fi kam wa7ad bye7ko b esem l l ouwet b tari2a ma bet3aber 3an nafas l ouwet wel 7akim bisale7 warahoun, meshkeletna ba3da a7san men mesheklet gher a7zeb bi jenn za3ima live 3al tv w bisiro nouwebo yra23oulo w ysal7loulo nahfeto
  ne7na mna3ref min samir geagea w mna3ref mazbout enno ma bibi3 damm shouhade2 l adiye w addam kel shi la hal addiye w mna3ref enno wa2ta ykoun baddo yousal la shaghle metel l federaliye aw gher l federaliye bya3ref kif yeshteghella w kif yousalla bala ma ytaleb fiya 3alanan w bwa2et mesh mouneseb
  bass 3am ba3tik ra2ye bel points lli enta zakartoun la2an ana metlak mesh rade 3a ade2 l ouwet 7aliyan bas ana bousa2 bel dr. geagea w mtamman enno eza fi sha5es wa7ad ma bibi3 addiyto law shou ma sar houwe l 7akim
  keep up the good work w don’t loose your faith in the lf

• 54. SONIA | April 20th, 2008 at 10:57 am

  We COULD be your brother,Lebanon….

  Think it over.

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