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• 1. Tarek | June 20th, 2008 at 6:03 pm

  “Fight propaganda with the truth & more propaganda. Dont fight it wich offensive replies in the papers.”

  quoted for truth.

• 2. Mourakib | June 20th, 2008 at 6:11 pm

  I did not DSG has his memoirs published; how can we can get access to those?

• 3. VOR | June 20th, 2008 at 6:40 pm

  N,my understanding is that there was a major power struggle going on between Bashir and Tony. Sleiman was behind it as well, seeing himself as the leader of the christians back then..it was basically a way for Bashir to address Tony’s abusive tactics against the Kataeb in the north and to unify all christians under the Lebanese Front movement, but of course the Syrians acted quickly to prevent this from happening and in turn opened up a rift b/w the Frangieh clan on the one hand and that of the Leb. Front on the other. It is no secret that Bashir wanted to teach Tony a lesson…but things got out of control and with Syria’s tacit knowledge, the “massacre” took place. It is probably one of the great tragedies to hit the Christians during the early years of the war.

• 4. a5watz | June 20th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

  Yeah ok, it was ugly.. but Necessary.
  Without proper Christian unity, the front could not be maintained.
  Now was Frangieh a true victim??

  I don’t think that the majority of the Christian street would have supported Bachir if thy didn’t trust him. And Frangie was close, too close to Assad to be left to interfere in the fight against palestinians and Leftists.

  I think that it had to be done.

• 5. N10452 | June 20th, 2008 at 9:13 pm

  VOR,
  The problem is that even Frangieh doesnt dare open the case and reveal the truth because it will harm him and discredit him …

  Bashir was clear from the start that you cannot have many militias .. its not like politics .. uniting the militias was essential however it failed when the mission turned into a massacre perpatrated by many sides i must say … and i never count the Syrians out of it ..

• 6. kouwatje | June 20th, 2008 at 10:21 pm

  I was waiting for a long time for a post like that one .
  Thank you N
  Every time Otv or the aounist or anyone else attacks the lf with lies, they make me happy , because the more they attack us the more we get stronger ,
  like DSG once said if they attack one of us we gain two if they attack two we gain ten and the ten becomes a hundred then a thousand etc….
  But i still wonder why doesn’t anyone reveal the real identity of Aoun , I have many videos that shows aoun real face , and i am sure that the lf and others have tones of videos and documents that can destroy him so what are they waiting for ?

• 7. VOR | June 20th, 2008 at 11:07 pm

  Well…without Bashir’s vision of christian unity and his decisive leadership, the majority of christians would have been divided and weak at the time…that’s why the Lebanese Forces were created! This type of leadership is greatly missed today.

• 8. N10452 | June 20th, 2008 at 11:42 pm

  Kouwatje,
  The only way you can make Aoun gain popularity is by playing his game .. he s good at propaganda while we are not .. so unless u know how to play it, do so ..

  In my opinion, if u ignore Aoun and dont mention him from time to time, you ll be destroying him slowly .. because he ll want attention and he ll get it then by doing mistakese all over the place ..

  I have tons of article and videos on Aoun that can expose him .. but what for ?

• 9. Rambo | June 21st, 2008 at 2:51 am

  War was ugly. What bachir ordered and started we paid the price for it when Geagea continue the path of killing other christians opponents to take their place or not allowing them to challenge him.

  What is sad is that Frnajieh forgave Geagea and who ever killed his father and yet the LF w Geagea byinshro harimo.

  What is worst than all this the Geagea excuse, I was shot before reaching the ehden palace, thus I have nothing to do with it. How funny and ad at the same time. Like telling someone I was going to kill you but your bodyguards got me but my men did the job, but I have nothing to do with it.

  What if Geagea wasn’t injured.

  What is also sad is how the Kataeb is not accused by this crime. It was a Kataeb decision, a Kataeb team,… and yet they stick it to the LF.

• 10. Jim | June 21st, 2008 at 3:58 am

  N u said Fight propaganda with the truth & more propaganda, and thats what should happen bt one problem, on which channel? LBC are trying to promote themselves as neutrals bcz pierre l daher wants $$$ and they would not show a counter episode of ehden masacre.. Add to that he is one of franjiehs close friends nowadays.. Future Tv won’t put an episode of civil war on! our weakness is that we don’t have a station, while L’orangists have orange tv, manar, new tv, nbn brainwashing people all day..

• 11. N10452 | June 21st, 2008 at 9:10 am

  Jim,
  You dont really need tvs to make a propaganda .. u can do it in several ways and means .. the important is to have a strong team, a professional team to do it properly and keep the party’s credibility intact !

• 12. 3amo Kevin | June 21st, 2008 at 3:04 pm

  hey N yea id like the whole story as by SG’s memories. can u email it to me at kevintakach@gmail.com?

• 13. Son of Ehden | June 22nd, 2008 at 2:11 am

  I am glad you wrote about this unfortunate incident. Here is my opinion and i might be wrong but i would appreciate it if people would reply politely without cursing or anything.
  Samir Geagea was shot at the entrance of Ehden. In from of the Frangieh palace. He didnt make it to the palace itself. There was lots of blood before the massacre itself as each side wanted to control the north. The sad part is that both sides were more concerned about Chekka and the eternite company than the christians themselves. The syrians did have checkpoints along the way but the Kataeb (LF didnt exist back then) found their way with the help of a syrian officer who was later sent back to Syria. Lets not hide behind our finger, the Kataeb killed Tony Frangieh. I am not a Frangieh supporter but i strongly blame both sides for the massacre. I also blame OTV big time for bringing up such issues and creating more divisions within the christian community. It is time for reconciliation not division. Another sad part, we, the christians, are so ruthless and criminal when fighting each other, Ehden massacre, Safra, Aoun-Geagea, and the many massacres the Frangieh gang committed. I am not with any side. We really should have new educated leadership. Lets send Geagea, Gemayel, Aoun, Frangieh to hell and have a new leadership that will be totally in line with Bkirki. Amal and Hizballah killed each other in the hundreds and yet you dont see a TV station creating an episode about it. We really should work on reconciliation and not division. Kataeb killed Tony Frangieh in a brutal and barbaric ways, Frangieh gang also killed many kataeb in barbaric ways as well. We should really forgive and not forget, learn from our mistakes and know that as long as we are so divided we will remain weak….very weak.

• 14. Samir | June 22nd, 2008 at 7:25 am

  God bless the LF, its leader and all of its sons .. 10452, Bachi 7ay fina, wel Hakim 3am yefdina

• 15. Michele | June 22nd, 2008 at 7:37 am

  The more Aoun uses propaganda the more he is declaring his political bankruptcy.

  As N mentioned above, the best way of fighting that insect (Aoun) is to completely ignoring him.

  How low can this man get, and how blind can his followers be?

• 16. Rambo | June 22nd, 2008 at 9:07 am

  Blaming Aoun will not change history and wash away the fact that crimes were done by Christians in the name of Christianity and the christian community.

  As franjieh said the other day, khaye nihna sema7na bas badak yali semahne yi’bal el mousemaha.

• 17. Leb4Life | June 22nd, 2008 at 11:40 pm

  khayi Rambo ..
  the ppl u are dealing with in this blog are christians by name only . they claim to defend the christians but at the same time they were the ones who destroyed them . their wars destroyed the christians . they can not mention one war that was a benefit to us . not even one war . all what they did and still do is for one reason: destroy lebanon. this is their hakim’s aim and they follow him blindly and think he is a saint .
  i suggest u stop wasting ur time with them. they are hopeless cases.

• 18. Michele | June 23rd, 2008 at 7:37 am

  Tss, tss, 7aram hablé4life!!

  Just one question then u can go back to ur medication?

  Who declared and started “7arb el Igha’a”?
  Who were the 2 parties fighting?
  How did the Christians benefit from it?

  Funny to hear from an Orange talking about worshiping and following a person?

  U’ve certainly made me laugh today!

  Therefore cheers!

• 19. shadow | June 24th, 2008 at 2:49 pm

  OTV = ZERO TV = CHRISTIANS KILLING EACH OTHER .

• 20. Isaac MBazbaz | October 27th, 2008 at 3:40 pm

  You added the PS ( I have the whole story if anyone is interested, as narrated by Samir Geagea in his memories).
  I would appreciate it if you could send it to my private e-mail address. Do you know where I can obtain the memoirs of Geagea? Thanks

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