New Government: Winners & Losers
Posted by N10452Reuters reported this morning:
Lebanon’s Hariri forms unity government with Hezbollah
And it continued saying:
Lebanon’s Prime Minister Saad al-Hariri formed a new unity government on Monday that includes two ministers from Syrian- and Iranian-backed Hezbollah.
I believe that puts an end to M14’s win in the past elections.
What is the point of winning elections if we cannot form our own government without the loser’s consent ?
One might agree that the Opposition led by HA did not get the blocking third, but they seem to forget the policy statement was not yet released, and i strongly believe it will legalize HA’s weapons therefore paving the way for future conflicts with Israel on a national scale this time, not just in the South or Dahieh.
So Who are the big losers from all this ?
The Christians of course, and from both sides.
- M14 Christians were unable to get all requested seats, Kataeb & Pharaon already expressed their frustration yesterday.
- LF Leader Samir Geagea said he will not join a government that legalizes HA’s weapons but i don’t see him resigning anytime soon. In fact, an LF source denied the LF wanting to disarm HA.
- The Displaced minister Akram Chehayeb is one of the key people who displaced the Christians in the first place. If any of the Christian leaders had a conscience whatsoever, he would have protested this nomination and claimed back the ministry.
- Aoun managed to sneak in his nephew and got two extra portfolios for the Aounists and an addition two for the C&R. However he remains manipulated by Hezbollah & the Syrians and again plunged the Christians into HA’s disastrous strategies.
Policy statement will be decided within the next few days or weeks, and will once again undermine Lebanon’s sovereignty, weaken the Christians’ role more and more and put Lebanon in a shaky position regionally and locally, all that by legalizing HA’s weapons.
12 days from now, M14 & M8 leaders will be “celebrating” Lebanon’s dependance and lack of sovereignty.
As for myself, I would be “mourning” the golden chance we had 4 years ago of achieving that independance, a chance i strongly doubt will ever come again.
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1. Darwish | November 10th, 2009 at 11:00 am
You are absolutely right N, the cedar revolution opened a door and was indeed a golden opportunity but….we just trusted the wrong people to lead us into a bright future and now here we are back in mediocrity and full of regrets of what could have been! Perhaps when the next opportunity comes along, if it ever comes back, we’ll have the courage to not trust these old jockers and instead rely on the new generation of leaders that truly care about the future of the nation and its people first! Sounds like an elusive dream!
2. readers | November 10th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Can you expalain how did you get to this conclusion that Aoun “remains manipulated by Hezbollah & the Syrians and again plunged the Christians into HA’s disastrous strategies.”
3. readers | November 10th, 2009 at 11:16 am
N, Why don’t you say that Hariri’s gov includes 2 ministers from Fath el Islam backed Lebanese Forces ?
4. ja3far | November 10th, 2009 at 11:30 am
u may be aware of your version of the lebanese history N .. but you havent learned anything from it
5. N10452 | November 10th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Readers,
Do i really need to explain ? read the MOU you will understand.
Ja3far,
Learning is one thing and moving on to something worse is another thing …
Why dont u elaborate and enlighten me laken … instead of writing big words for saying nothing ..
6. ja3far | November 10th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
what do you want me to explain N ? it is a matter of believes. i dont think lebanon can stand a chance with winners and loosers mentality.. obviously you do
7. N10452 | November 10th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
What laken ya ja3far ??
What do u want ? a one-colored country ?
You do elections to win or lose .. this is how democracy is …
What do you want ?
8. ja3far | November 10th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
N… u really think we are ready ? ma each group think he is threatened . look at your comment:
“So Who are the big losers from all this ?
The Christians of course, and from both sides.”
you are not talikng about lebanon, bout about a group.. and each party is doing the same…
each group consider that the other have a hiden agenda .. you are attaking me on every article you write, the M8 blogs are doing the same against u…
the first step is for me to trust you.. and we are still long way ahead
9. Maximus | November 10th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Stil no decision from Kataeb?
It seems there is no consensus. El majlis el syese mejtemi3 men mberi7.
10. danny | November 10th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
N,
I agree with you. Before the election; it seems; everyone on M14 side was under the impression that if they were to win the election that somehow things were going to change on the ground; that Aoun was going to be cured from his mental disorder; that HA suddenly was going to register as a humitarian non sectarian party…
Off course the M8 crowd were so confident of their victory that their leader Hassan Nassrallah challenged M14 to call early elections and may the winner govern…Even Ja3far and his lesser pooch who l*i*cks at his “slippers” declared vitory before the elections…
However, the reality has just slapped us accross the face. Ja3far is right 10% when he says it is a matter of trust..Yup. But he forgets May 7…He forgets that they have the weapons and everyone is thretened with another May 7th unless…Well we have it; a governmnet to their liking. Also, Christians are losers as their faith and fate is bing negotiated between KSA and Persia…the Sunni Shiite mini standoff is playing out in Lebanon. It seems Iraquis have more of a Character as a nation than the mercanary Lebanese!!
It bleeds our hearts to see the once proud community of Christians torn away piece by piece in Lebanon; a lot through their own mistakes and errors…Listen to what Ja3far is saying…that “ma each group think he is threatened . look at your comment:”
Except the Christians they sold out to mal el nazeef and the rest latched on to the sinking boat; that was filled with the grave digger from mukhtara and the Salafists remnants…
Yalla this is enough…RIP Lebanon…
11. Maximus | November 10th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
A syrian-saudi-iranian deal: back to square one…
Syria will arbitrate the modus vivendi between Sunnis (Saudi) and HA (Iran) on the basis of the pre-2005 basis: Hariri has upper hands in economy and finance and HA will preserve its military and intelligence apparatus. Christian and Druzes have no strateguc role in that.
All have been negociated between Abdallah and Assad in Damascus than beween Moallem and Ahmadinajad in Teheran.
12. readers | November 10th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
N, you are talking about the MOU between HA and Aoun. It is exactly the opposite of what your saying.
13. Maximus | November 10th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Hariri came to Saifi and left after ten minutes. Sayegh is still there. He won’t come to Baabda for the photo…
14. Maximus | November 10th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Readers
bikaffé ba2a ya zalamé
Can’t you see it. HA le”ib fikoun metel ma Hariri le3ib bel be2yin. Sunni and Shias considered the christians out since 1990. All the deal since Syrians get out is who between them will get the upper hand and each was trying to take more christians to his side to make the difference. Now they both accepted to bring back Syria to arbitrate the division of power between them. All christians have no other role than decor…
15. marcusbas | November 10th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Bokra jame3et HA wil mu3arada yalli bi2idoon baddon bil bayan al wizary ykoon fee band 7emayat al muqawama.
Eh shoo hal muqawameh yalli badda 7imeyeh min al dawleh!!!!!???
16. ja3far | November 10th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
danny.. i didnt know you have joined the “ja3far slippers fan club ” …
u dont trust us because of 7 May, we dont trust you that is why 7 may happened. it is clear we dont trust each other
we have to start somewhere.. no one can win so no other option but to sit …and talk
17. paul | November 10th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
i advise Kataeb and LF urgently to leave this goverment immediately .
18. danny | November 10th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Ja3far…The slippers were in “… “…No not joining that club…Enjoy
As for trust you just read one part of my comments always!! I blamed the Christians for their demise…Not any other party….
May 7th happened because HA wanted to send a message that whatever they decide is it!! …or else a civil war whereas they can take over Lebanon in a few days (but they know they can never keep it in a civil war of attrition)…However, that would defeat their strategic purpose and that of Persia…
You and I very well know this is an accomodation between Persia and KSA with Syria getting some crumbs as compensation in influence in Lebanon and most likely billions in Saudi petro $$$….
Again, my friend, Christians REALLy don’t have a say….Unless they possess the deterrent (a nuke)….Go figure…
Dialogue of the deaf will get you just there! HA has the guns but wants to run its on institutions; police force; army; charitable orgs; telephone lines; hashish stands…Also, they have ghost employees cashing out taxpayers money in state ministries…
What will the dialogue be about? To validate all those?
Shall I continue? lebanon is not a country! It is a bus terminal for murderers or terrorists that Arabs, Persians and Israelis use among others (remember the 70’s with the Japanese, Italian, german and of course the Palestian terrorist camps)…
19. marcusbas | November 10th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I think the LF should take a stand with the Kataeb and threaten to leave 14th of March.
20. N10452 | November 10th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Readers,
How so ?
21. ja3far | November 10th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
danny… i am sure you can give a very long list.. no doubt, and i can try to reply and denny.. and we can go on with that forever ..
lebanon can be a point of diferences between all these major international players or a point of meeting… it is for us to decide how we wanna make our country.. but first we have to start learning more about each others.. try to understand the fear and concern of each party and try to meet somewhere in the middle .. or we can just keep fighting till the last man standing .. then there will be only ” slippers ” to enjoy the remaining of our beautiful country
22. danny | November 10th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
J,
I live in the west…I have seen the meeting of the middle. What are you suggesting? re invent the wheel? We all wanted to live peacefully in a country whereas kids can grow up and have a future…however, which part do you want me to understand? You can practice your religion and politics as far as it does not infringe on my rights!
Here we come to the most important part: You call it Resistance but against what and whom? When will it stop? Are we to agree that we have to live under contrant threat of annihilation by Israelis because you decide to kidnap a soldier? Or should we live in the atmosphere of terror and bombings and assasinations? If Iran is threatened; your GS Seyyed Nassrallah threatens Israels with annihilation…Did I, consent to that? Or is he making his decisions to sacrifice my country at the feet of Khamaeini?
Buddy, I can go on forever…However, the main issue are the GUNS…Cardinal Sfeir is the most courageous person and he honestly said where all w-h-o-res of politicians would not…It is the GUNS 3ammo!!!
23. Maximus | November 10th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
No white suits anymore.
http://www.dalatinohra.com/largeimage.asp?imid=70679
24. Elie.F | November 10th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
LF ministers resigning for the sake of Kataeb? what a joke, wein 3eysheen ya 3ammi into, in Lebanon we say move so i can take your place. And as for the Bayen, it will be worse than the one before,be sure about that,but the old radar man”DSG” will sure yit7affaz,and this will hurt HA and FPM and the whole islamic world a lot,because this TA7AFFOZ to come from a big leader who have 5 Deputees and sure not to forget the ALCOHOL MINISTER will be more affective on the whole world as much as the climate change.
M 14, people do not trust you anymore, you kept on doing mistakes but yet people kept giving you chances and excuses, but this is the last chance, people came from outside just to vote for you hoping that the result will be for a new Lebanon, but is this what they wanted? sure no. People love the strongest who can set rules,and not the weak who keep on giving excuses.
Bravo 3aou and HA, you made the day of your supporters,we envy you for your leaders who proved to have big balls whereas M14 proved to have the big holes, tfeh.
Theresina,ray7ina ba2a min habalik inti wil caporal thing, people had enough of you too, iza inti w bayyik have problems with 3aou,we don’t care about it, go solve it.
25. ja3far | November 10th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
danny.. when there is a real alternative i will discuss the guns.. sorry , i cant accept to go back to the ” lebanon is strong with his weakness ” formula.
not with the peaceful AVI as my neighbor
26. Lebanonjon | November 10th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
No Lebanon is strong without an iranian militia holding the country hostage to their slipper politics
you are a pathetic little worm ja33oura and don’t ever forget it. You are hiding behind the weapons of HA, and in real life you are little pipsqueek .
Talking big as if you had any importance. You are a nobody today, you were a nobody yesterday and tomorrow you will still be a nobody. The entire country is hostage to your HA terror outfits divine wars and bogus religious fanaticism.
I wouldn’t piss on you if your head was on fire
now write back with a smiley face and a dumb answer. We all know your abilities which are limited.
But if we let you hang around here to spew your garbage, dont let it go to your empty head. Just feel greatfull that there is still somewhere in Lebanon where you can speak you mind.
and oh yeah ,hallop
27. danny | November 10th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
J,
Then integrate within the army ya habboub…Give up the little statelet and enforce the law for everyone…Why do you HA; who has declared his allegiance to W of F and Khameini; why should you have the right to make the decision for the rest? Why not start the process of integration NOW!!
28. mano | November 10th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
LOL AY ELIE F COMMENT ABOUT THERESINA
mitl il shatreen ra7 yi2balo il kataeb ,, li2ano ma 3indon michel aoun
29. danny | November 10th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
mano go play with your toys…
30. Al (Ex-Anonymous) | November 10th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
March 14 2005 will never happen again N10452. At least not in our lifetime. We missed our train big time for one simple reason: the Lebanese people listened to their so called leaders (including nasrallah sfeir) and didn’t go all the way like they really wanted to. I hate Walid Joumblatt but “lil tarikh” as he always likes to say, he was the only one willing to go all the way and got stopped by Hariri, Sfeir (especially) and all the rest. Somehow in a sick way I understand why he did his 180 degrees turn.
And the “great lebanese people” proved his greatness once again last summer when they voted for the exact same guys responsible for this fiasco.
Mabrouk el 7koumé wou akbar sa7en tabboule wou akbar jat hommous….
31. ja3far | November 10th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
danny… there is a rule in lebanon called sity wa sity mkarar .. to maintain muslim christian balance.. you cannot just throw an army of thousands of shi3as in the army.. there should be a system.. that is what tawlet al 7iwar is all about. unfortunately, many people thought that tawlet al 7iwar is to discuss the way to disarm HA. this is simply untrue . it is to discuss a strategy to protect lebanon .. let the leaders put real plans and strategies and it can include a way to get HA in the army under special units .. no problem.. i dont want my kids to go train on arms to protect their land,, i want the army to take his responasabilities
32. Reminder | November 10th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Somehow FPM wins even when they lose! Congrats for the Kataeb for getting….well something. And the LF for getting the Justice, they do deserve it since they “won” the elections…oh wait they do deserve it (the consequence not the ministry)
33. danny | November 10th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
32…you are so pathetic and juvenile…total reflection of the orange crew’s intellectual prowess…
ja3far…that “excuse” does not wash ya habibi…Maybe there are quotas for senior officers…but come on now if we want to increase the army’s strenght under LEBANESE command mind you NOT Syrian or Persian; I am ceratin things could get worked out…In the meantime why don’t we start in the interior applying the laws to all…Where the hell are the ziad and ziad’s killers? The Jaafar family of murderers? why is Dahiye under HA control? Why all the security zones? Why electricity bills get collected from non shia areas only?
J, I can rhyme off hundreds of things HA would “relinquish”…Like no more mal el Nazeef…Have they ever filed for a tax audit with the government?
Anyways too tired…Gotta go work…Cheers for now.
34. ja3far | November 10th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
danny.. mistakes are there, no one is denying it.. i said we have a long way to go… no body claimed to be perfect..
but we should stop thinking about eleminating each others and considering each others as traitors first .. then we can go up with the maslow pyramid ..
35. ja3far | November 10th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
behave well little clown and i have a nice pair of toilet slippers for you to chew…
now catch……
good boy
36. mano | November 10th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
danny i am playing with some toys now thankd for reminding me ,,, bas il hay2a into il wa7ideen yalle lezem til3abo bil toys hal iyyem ..hahah w a7la shee 2al shu sammora
BYE BYE YA 7ILWEEN
37. mano | November 10th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
danny i am playing with some toys now thankd for reminding me ,,, bas il hay2a into il wa7ideen yalle lezem til3abo bil toys hal iyyem ..hahah w a7la shee 2al shu sammora
BYE BYE YA 7ILWEEN
38. paul | November 10th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Maximus,they wear black,the color of the future.
39. Ra'fat | November 10th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Ma7al ma khiri shana2ou…..
40. avi | November 10th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
‘not with the peaceful AVI as my neighbor’….Jaffar you’re organization is terrorists ,they keep on attacking Israel by every means possible…..and I am the one that is not peaceful……
41. sniper | November 10th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
How do we end up with only 2 seats in government despite stellar elections results ? HOW ?
How do you explain that to the thousands who disrupted their daily lives and flew down and voted for this joke called M14 ???
We live in a forest where the strong (HA) eats the weak (LF). Forget democracy and the longer you subscribe to this notion, the worst your situation will become. Hey, how about this. Next time a hydro worker come by, yell, shout, threaten, and much more if needed be, and immediately your share in government will increase LoL.
What a joke of a country. You guys happy with the ministry of the displaced? rot in hell …
42. Nth | November 10th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
avi avi avi …
see you didn’t answer before ….
anyway … by the same logic, we can look at the numbers murdered, butchered, displaced, robbed, raped (you’re getting the picture) by your terrorist entity and compare those statistics to hizbollah’s …
again … are you be paid for participating here ?? are you part of the mighty israeli internet army ?? don’t you guys have more babies to kill … ??
simply if you are peaceful you should be able to say:
“I don’t believe that we are racially supreme and are morally allowed to kill and displace a large group of people just because they don’t belong to our race (ethnicity/ religion).. I believe that we shouldn’t steal people’s homes!!”
if you say the above sentence – any human on earth should easily – I will love you man …… Kisses and everything … the whole deal ….
If you can’t say it … you’re a sad racist trapped in the past … or a believer in the law of power not morality ….. you’re free to believe whatever u want, but then we’re free t call you on it
Its not just the racism that’s the problem …i ts the long-term ugly naked racism of zionism and zionists .. pure racism, and terror .. zionism, racism, terror, stealing, murder, these should be synonymous terms …. and the nerve of talking about peace uhhhh ..
http://nth-word.blogspot.com/2009/04/zionism-is-racism-is-it-and-what-about.html
43. Nth | November 10th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
sniper … roo2 man … lebanese are brothers ..
44. avi | November 10th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Just one last thing Sniper,the Christians lost their place in Lebanon officially,For me this government formation is evidence …….plus the majority….March 14 does not have the first word in this government that means that the wishes of most of the Lebanese people are not even respected,plus the weapons of Hezbollah which are still not state controlled terrorize and impose a situation dictated by a minority plus elements inside March 14 seem to have ‘changed sides’ in the name of neutrality ……Plus there are camps where the descendants of Palestinian refugees live and where there are militias that are armed to the teeth and as usual not under state control even Al quaida and of coarse Hamas……And then the Lebanese christian ‘cerveau’ ‘intelectuel’ what else can he do a part immigrate????….
45. Doc1559 | November 10th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
الأعور: الحريري سيتوجه الى سوريا لترتيب العلاقات بين البلدين لمصلحتهما
10 تشرين الثاني 2009
اكد عضو تكتل “التغيير والاصلاح” النائب فادي الأعور ان رئيس الحكومة سعد الحريري سيذهب الى دمشق لأن اي رئيس حكومة في لبنان ملزم بالتعاطي بايجابية مع جيرانه العرب، وبالتالي فالحريري سيتوجه الى سوريا لترتيب العلاقات بين البلدين بطريقة تخدم مصلحتهما.
ولفت الأعور في حديث الى تلفزيون “ANB” الى ان رئيس “التغيير والاصلاح” العماد ميشال عون قدم تنازلا بموضوع النسب لمصلحة اللبنانيين وللتسريع بتشكيل الحكومة، معتبرا نا تركيبة الوزراء هي تركيبة فاعلة جدا.
وشدد على انه سيكون هناك تعاون في الحكومة بين الجميع، متوقعا نجاح الوزير جبران باسيل في وزارة الطاقة كما نجح في الاتصالات.
واكد الأعور انه لن يكون هناك من خلاف على البيان الوزاري وعناوينه الأساسية معروفة، لافتا الى ان رئيس الحكومة ورئيس “اللقاء الديمقراطي” النائب وليد جنبلاط لا مشكلة عندهما على سلاح المقاومة ويمكن للقوى الأخرى ان تعرب عن تحفظها على هذا السلاح في البيان.
46. paul | November 10th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
2a3war yi7ke w3a2il yisma3.
47. avi | November 10th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Nth I quote you : ‘ the long-term ugly naked racism of zionism and zionists .. pure racism, and terror ..’ tell me if Zionism for you is all this and you make these comments what’s left then to say once again just like the Israeli people said to the Arab world in 1948 we bolong we live here let us live we do not want war…..I mean Nth how is trapped in the good old hate slogans of the past who wants once again to eradicate my country Israel who lives in lies and in hatred and who is paying the biggest price ,the one engaging voluntarily in this ugly war…..by the way NTH the truth is UGLY AND WAR ARE SYNONYMS……….All the rest of your nonsense is propaganda and I will finish with Barouck habba …….It is in hebrew,you know my stolen language you moron ….I am sure if you make an effort you will understand the meaning it is very close to Arabic my half brothers…………
48. avi | November 10th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
And Nth I am independent I engage voluntarily on this blog to debate but if the Israeli state paid me money I would definitly take the cash ,I wouldn’t say no ….but the truth is Nth I am just a simple Israeli trying to engage with Lebanese on a pretty cool blog trying to give the Israeli point of view since none of you actually seem to understand us,even if you think you do;Nth it may be beneficial to debate with a real Israeli than to just spread hatred and lies of what you think we think or do.
49. avi | November 10th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
By the way NTH = MIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
50. Doc1559 | November 10th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
To all Fpmers, HAers and mu3rada in general :
Thank you for supporting one other till the end of this gov formation battle. Your alliance have displayed a true and patriotic stand regardless of your religious diffrences and politicall affiliations. Guided by MOU principles you were able to overcome your problems, defeated your enemy and remained strong and loyal to your cause. On the other hand, what ouwet and kateeb fail to understand is that we are a nation of Muslims, Christians and non beleivers, we are all Lebanese, we are all neighbors and family, we are all on the same boat, we are LEBANESE !! What N10452, Maximus, Danny , Theresinia and others NEED to understand that GMA DID not ally with HA and the SHIITE bcuz of their arms BUT BCUZ THEY ARE A PART of this country.
Lack of trust is what we suffer in Lebanon , what did Hariri do to his Christian alliance ?? What did Kateeb and ouwet do to Hariri ?? This distrust in politics caused them to collpase and betray one other. They did , we did not !! FPM, Marada and others stood by HA till the last second. HA,mu3rada and others STOOD by FPM till the last second. This is what you call unity !!! God bless !!
Best wishes and good luck to PM hariri, I am looking forward to a new alliance between HA, FPM AND FM. I can’t wait
51. Doc1559 | November 10th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Paul
النائب زهرا: الوزير نجار يمثل فقط القوات اللبنانية في الحكومة الحالية وليس الكتائب والقوات معا
eh zahra ye7ke w inta chem al ri7a !!
7ibo ba3ed ya paul..
52. PIERRE | November 10th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Kataeb should quit the cabinet
53. Doc1559 | November 10th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
Pierre
Mark my words ,
I dare kateeb to quit.. Wait and see !! They can’t quit.. It is not up to them..
54. Doc1559 | November 10th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
Avi
Fu-ck you and Israel !!
Go fish !!
55. paul | November 10th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Doc,i will never support this goverment even if you write a newspaper.
7koume feshle 100% and doomed to fail,you cant put together what dont belong together.
just wait and see.
7ibbo ba3dkoun? lei chou fi?
56. Doc1559 | November 11th, 2009 at 12:00 am
paul
Time will prove you wrong again.
7ibbo ba3ed la2inu al kateeb ma ba2 tayi2no la samir geagea ..
Take care buddy ..
57. avi | November 11th, 2009 at 1:45 am
Hezbollah share:Hussein al-Hajj Hassan (agriculture), Mohammed Fneish (state for administrational development) ……..No wonder you like fishing so much Doc.
58. newstart | November 11th, 2009 at 1:57 am
Jaafar,doc and reminder
Thank you for all your hard work. You won your bet
59. mano | November 11th, 2009 at 2:45 am
avi ur the lamest person here YET please go to ur israeli rooms and talk about ur politics and leave us alone we have had enough of u israelis
60. danny | November 11th, 2009 at 3:02 am
avi…you are better than these clueless i*d*i*ots on this blog including the child and the pooch…However, please cut down your spamming and especially your righteous BULLSHIT!!
61. HammerHead | November 11th, 2009 at 3:50 am
I like the tie-less [sans cravate] HA ministers! Are you guys sure they do not own western vehicles, appliances, electronics?
Anyway, I am not going to say good luck to this government w medri chou cz that’s all we say each time.
Good luck to Minister Baroud, and Murr and I hope we form a government one day that only has people like them. Knowledgeable, righteous, and decision-makers.
I wish all the Lebanese people wake up, stop following blindly like sheep, and start thinking about how this is affecting their lives. Wle ma 3enna kahraba 24/7 w ba3do heda 14 w hedek 8 w bye3la2o ma3 ba3ed bisabab l syesi!! I know this is a bunch of theory, but a wide revolution is what we need.
Send all our politicians to an island and form a government made of knowledgeable people who will make changes! It’s a dream, but I hope it comes true.
WAKE UP EVERYONE!
62. Mike | November 11th, 2009 at 5:31 am
avi take a hike man. ba3id na2isne heek bashar. arabic and hebrew derive from phoenician. samak, bet and shams are ancient phoenician words still used in arabic. You guys took the alphabet but atleast be grateful that we the Phoenicians invented it. It seems the zionists just take and never give back. No exchange. Thus, criminiality that you see today.
63. SmaSh | November 11th, 2009 at 6:05 am
bahdale.
houkoume bahdale and M14 Christians 3am yitbahdalo 3a aktar.
When are you Christians going to wake the F up and smell the coffee? Unite !!!!!! and if you can’t unite Do some F’ing MOU’s or something to stick together!
If you can talk to your leaders do so! Hej ba2a kel wa7ad cheyifle 7alo 3al tene kelna serna mniswa sirmeye because of that
64. Doc1559 | November 11th, 2009 at 7:55 am
AVI
What fish are you ?? Catfish maybe ??
You sound like the most useless and depressing fish in the world !! LOL at your as$ ..
Go fish b4 we fish you out. Your BS and anti anti semitic shi**t don’t fly around here.
Down with Israel..
65. Doc1559 | November 11th, 2009 at 8:01 am
ووزعت السفارة الاميركية في بيروت بيانا صادرا عن “البيت الأبيض” حول تشكيل الحكومة اللبنانية جاء فيه:
“تثني الولايات المتحدة الأميركية على اضطلاع رئيس الجمهورية ميشال سليمان ورئيس الوزراء سعد الحريري بمسؤوليتهما الدستورية في عملية تشكيل الحكومة، وتتطلع قدما الى العمل مع الحكومة اللبنانية المقبلة بالنيابة عن شعب لبنان.
ونحن نتطلع إلى العمل مع حكومة لبنانية جديدة ملتزمة ببسط سلطتها على كافة الأراضي اللبنانية وتعزيز الإصلاحات السياسية والاقتصادية التي تعود بالنفع على الشعب اللبناني.ان السعي إلى تحقيق هذه الأهداف يقدم طريقا واضحا نحو النهوض بالسلام والاستقرار والفرص الاقتصادية في لبنان والمنطقة على حد سواء. سوف يقوم لبنان بدور رئيسي في الجهود الرامية إلى تحقيق سلام شامل في الشرق الأوسط ولا يمكن أن التوصل الى حل دائم في المنطقة على حساب لبنان
As my professor once told me :
YOU LEBANESE DON’T MATTER, ISRAEL DOES !! Yes, indeeeeeed !!
66. mike | November 11th, 2009 at 8:18 am
Ask john bolton who said you cant compare the blood of lebanese to israeii. Meaning the dead Lebanese children are worth much less than dead israeli defense forces terrorists who kill them. Therefore; you should condemn the lebanese.
67. Reminder | November 11th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Amine Gemayel should have bought a pair of balls to help him quit now, isntead of spending so much money on an election that he lost. At least with my idea the balls might stick.
68. Nth | November 11th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
avi … nice drama … actually not nice , but lame .. you get the point … typical … you guys are so cheesy !!
YOUR language ??? as a friend here mentioned (please note that I’m not very nationalistic), your language is an adaptation of phoenician …. ironically … you stole that as well … wooowww … they should have an olympic permanent medal for you guys …
Also typically, you – as a lame sad pathetic zionist that you are – couldnt repeat a humanitarian sentence that any non-israeli self respecting human being can easily !!! any one !!!! other than zionists, any human beings will gladly say what i asked you to say …
my request to you was an honest try, in my effort to look for a respectable person in your pathetic entity of zionist terror (i think this should be the formal name) … and i have tried alot believe me …. you are not try #1 ….
you are the remnants of a dark past, and you are on your way to the ***** … stop telling me arabs and not arabs … i don’t care about arabs … i care about humans and human values …. something pretty exotic for your likes i guess …
thanks for your voluntary approach to connect with us lebanese … not appreciated and not just by me it seems …. go connect somewhere else … in Russia or wherever it was that you came from … return that house that you live in to its owners who are living in a tin tent in another country ….
Guys … I think its a nice government … very promising …
Oh an man …. for the nth time : I’m NOT Mike ……
… get it? for the “Nth” time
69. avi | November 11th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Nth my house is my house I did not steal from anybody…..sorry I will not indulge in your lies ,and I already told you my origins are from Iraq ,not Russia and you are Mike since you do not recognize even the hebrew language …..and tell me who did I copy my religion from????Or is it muslims and christians that copied mine???And i am a human being NTh (Mike) so I have the right to be independent on my ancestor’s land!!!Why don’t you respect for once my human rights Mr respectability???
70. avi | November 11th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
And one last thing for mike the liar and the history denier Arabic and Hebrew and aven phoenecien have the same origin so once again stop denying my culture and if you insist on denying Mike or Nth (same person) I will use once again wikipedia you stupid morons……..As a language, Hebrew belongs to the Canaanite group of languages. In turn the Canaanite languages are a branch of the Northwest Semitic family of languages.[1] Hebrew (Israel) and Moabite (Jordan) are Southern Canaanite while Phoenician (Lebanon) is Northern Canaanite. Canaanite is closely related to Aramaic and to a lesser extent South-Central Arabic. Whereas other Canaanite languages and dialects have become extinct, Hebrew has survived. Hebrew flourished as a spoken language in Israel from the 10th century BCE until the Babylonian exile.
So why don’t you lie on some other blog since on this blog I will continue to confront your Antisemitism by the truth!!!!
71. avi | November 11th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I hope you read it clear Hebrew and the Israeli people survived…………..Mike and Doc stop denying the obvious racism sucks and you will not find any historical justification for your racism……
72. avi | November 11th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Why am I on moderation for having countered obvious Antisemitism(and I think the word is more than appropriate ),Mr N (moderator) is Antisemtism Lebanon’s new ‘raison d’etre’????
73. avi | November 11th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Here Doc and Mike(Nth) for you guys…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFTwx7Y9Rno&feature=related
Don’t worry it’s Eng sub…….So you will understand my stolen language (lol)….STOP THE LIES!!!
74. avi | November 11th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Last one for the haters here another one this time Arabic sub………..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBah38_9smo&feature=related
75. avi | November 11th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
I heard that what you haters hate the most are Black Israeli(even more than Ashkenaz) so I will bring you some honey from the promised land….Sorry no subs it is just in my stolen language(lol)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYcXzCBNyQU&feature=related
76. avi | November 11th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Danny when you talk of righteous BS it is easier maybe to debate this with a person that does not recognize Israel as a country or a people than a real Israeli!!!!
77. paul | November 11th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
avi,one day you can come to pray in our synagoge.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,660675,00.html
78. avi | November 11th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Paul I hope so with the help od G.od and one day Paul and all the other Lebanese can come pray in Jerusalem …I hope….
79. Nth | November 11th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Geniunely laughing ….. !!!
Avi will you go dramatic on us again now ?? we are anti-semites and you are just a poor little persecuted person ??
Religion wise …. you don’t seem to be the most educated guy so i will not engage you in a discussion of how all abrahamic (judaism, christianity and islam) belong to one stem … i.e. judaism is a stage in that tree and not the root …. but hey … whatever ..
man … you will make it about language now ?? what on earth didn’t you people steal ?? lives ?? homes ?? money ?? land ?? families ?? culture ?? dishes ….. ??
By the way ….. Wikipedia is not a source mr. genius …. but also … i guess there isn’t room for a discussion in scientific reporting and research with you is there …. i mean you steal somebody’s home after killing his relatives …. and ’scientific reporting and research’ will not be high on your list of concerns …..
i really hate to use words that are close to those used by the stupid antisemites (in which we and jews belong to the same group) but zionism is simply being parasatic at its best !!! PARASITIC !!
please stop the melodrama …. nobody is being anti-semitic … big difference between judaism and zionism … i have a large group of jewish anti-zionist friends who are actually active in opposing zionism …. coz …. they have something called humanity !!!
Israel as a country and people …
… country ??? man you people all should go back to where you came from … straight and simple … and we can help guarantee that you be treated right (I think its a duty to help in that regard anyway) … that’s a solution …. it doesn’t include murderers and thieves though …
fly a kite man …. tell your boss that propaganda in our age of knowledge needs a little bit more culture and education … the age of simply repeating lies to be believed is over ….. tell him that he needs to decrease your salary till you get some more knowledge and actually be able to present a coherent group of ideas to other people …. this way you’re just embarassing yourself, insulting the people who you are being paid to try and fool ……. daaa**mn that cold :p
more info for you:
Israel recruit army of bloggers to fight non-zionist trend:
http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1056648.html?876876
by the way …. you (or your descendants) will be punished for this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn2Zyf4l_qg
and for so many other things ….
we hate black israeli? ?????? you people are sooooo racist that you are racist even against black jews !!!! i saw many reports about bad treatment of the mezrahim, asheknaz (probably you have such a huge inferiority complex that you can’t see it), and ethiopian jews … but hey …. i strongly believe that racism is just some ugly dirty trait … that shows a serios sick mentality .. and there is no reason for it to be limited against only one group of people ….
you lost it man … go to some other website …. also it seems (from my modest experience) that there is a tactic that you people do …. should we expect soon a group of people on this site that will start supporting you and pleading your cause ?? or is the world financial crisis the reason for a reduction in funds dedicated to recruiting stupid racist mercenaries …
YOU’RE TOAST !!
80. avi | November 12th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Nth it is the bare truth you refuse us as a nation …to leave Israel….man we are here to stay this is our ancestor’s lands!!!!I lost it I think you lost it!!!And yes if you refuse me as a people and as a nation then you are the facsist…..and when you say you have jEWISH FRIENDS???Who is that ???Common Mike tries to twist that in his favor too….I told you multiple users Mike suck!!!
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