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• 1. Reminder | November 26th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

  The curtains are falling down! M14 christians are showing that they neither have principles nor values! They scared their supporters into voting for them! boy if i were an LFer or kataeb I would feel used! At least FPM sided with Hezb’s arms based on principles that were set forth, not because they had to as they were being thrown out of the equation… yalla be 3ish ktir bet shuf ktir…

• 2. N10452 | November 26th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

  Reminder,
  Bicharafak balehoun hal at least wou ma at least … you are doing even worse than those M14 followers who were betrayed yet fail to acknowledge it …

  You dont even see the betrayal Aoun did long time ago ..

  Principles set forth eh ?
  Iza bi2ellak wa7ad tawbiz wou bit2ello ok bitkoun achraf min li kazzabo 3le ?

• 3. Rambo | November 26th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

  The LF died when Geagea came out from jail and kept the maskhara that was running the show while he was in jail to continue

• 4. Smash | November 26th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

  Kelo todyi3 wa2t.

  I lost hope a long time ago in M14 because they showed us more than once that they were a failure. Empty promisses and attacks on Aoun. That`s their specialty.

  the Justice ministry was in the hands of the LF and they didn’t take advantage of it(as far as i know). As an advantage, they could of done a lot of damage to the 4 generals regarding the past.
  They could of tried to clear themselves from some crimes that they didnt commit(reopening some files).

• 5. Fuziyad | November 26th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

  N, the bayan was allready agreed on before the government was formed…what harb and sayegh did was making a point, this is the best that can be done, keep in mind that you are facing someone who has 50′000 saroukh and won’t hesista using them(guess you heard moussawi on sunday saying that m14 christians 3am byestafezo joumhour el mukawama)

• 6. ja3far | November 26th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

  booovvvv… baloon hawa wa fa2a3…
  but tahanina you were able to make a point.. bravo..
  the next point they will make will be in syria…
  sha3eb 3azeem

• 7. danny | November 26th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

  N,

  With all due respect you should have commented on this before the formation of the government…It was clearly DSG’s and LF’s position that the issue of the guns in the hands of the TERRORIST gang HA will be discussed at the national “dialogue” (that means ala Godfather; HA will make an offer we can’t refuse!!!) table…

  So I disagree that their paricipation should have anything to do with the ministerial statement (now even before elections…did you ever fantasize that the Terrorost were going to stop terrorising?)…???

  Read what qassem said already: Guns will NOT be discussed on the dialogue table!!! Yes Master..We all spit at your dirty beard!!

• 8. paul | November 26th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

  Does it really need to be said again? this goverment have no future,ouwet and HA are as different as day and night but nevertheless we should not quit the goverment, and make life difficult for those who defend the legalization of “only” their own weapons.

  Qasem looks like he was on LSD.

• 9. Doc1559 | November 26th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

  So far,this is, indeed, a truly brave bayan wizari.
  Good thinking and wise understanding ,I am very happy with the bayan.

  The right to resist is a fundamental principle of govs, we a free people with free wills, we reserve the right to resist our enemy no matter what rules surround us. There is no rules when it comes to defend our land from foreign occupiers.

  to the cowards بطرس حرب وسليم الصايغ , i say : GO FISH !! To live under oppression and submit to the Israeli influence in the region , is something we’ll not allow to take place on our soil.

  Lastly, I love M14

• 10. Doc1559 | November 26th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

  Paul

  from my 8 :

  The right to resist is a fundamental principle of govs, we a free people with free wills, we reserve the right to resist our enemy no matter what rules surround us. There is no rules when it comes to defend our land from foreign occupiers.

  You can choose to live as an American slave if you want, and I will respect that, but no one can force the rest of the Leb ppl to do so.

  Again, I love M14 !!

• 11. danny | November 26th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

  Paul the cyber bytari said in above:

  “The right to resist is a fundamental principle of govs, we a free people with free wills, we reserve the right to resist our enemy no matter what rules surround us. There is no rules when it comes to defend our land from foreign occupiers.”

  hah? What a crock of S*H*I*T…Anybody decipher Feline language?

• 12. Doc1559 | November 26th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

  Danny

  woof woof puppy !! you got fu-ck-ed in the a$$ fanny !! I love your M14

• 13. paul | November 26th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

  Doc,your self made resistence is terrible enought,but all the worse is your runaway to our areas,you forgot that you are the one who live in america not me,and your people said every day that Obama is almahdi almountazar not me walaw

• 14. avi | November 26th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

  Doc what influence?The last thing Israel wants today is to reoccupy south Lebanon so you will have to find another excuse for Hezb’s weapons and ‘resistance’……How about not accepting the Jewish people as a state or on this land so it can be clear to everybody in what name Doc your Hezb has decided to destroy this region.

• 15. danny | November 26th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

  #12…NOW FELLOW BLOGGERS HERE IS A PEDOPHILE EXPOSING himself!! HIS COMMENTS ARE PROFOUND!!

  The little cyber doc has totally exposed himself time and time again for being intellectually inferior and impotent and devoid of morals!
  His reponse in #12 illustrates his total frustration for being exposed as a typical moblilette goon. Typical; you CAN TAKE THE GOON OUT OF THE DAHIYE BUT YOU CAN”T TAKE THE DAHIYE OUT OF HIM!!

  Now ali if you comprehend anything or if you had any shame or dignity you would crawl real quick out of here!!

• 16. avi | November 26th, 2009 at 11:28 pm

  Plus Doc Time and again it has been Hezbollah’s aggression which has caused Israel to attack. The argument that Hezbollah’s weapons protects Lebanon is backward. Hezbollah’s weapons and aggression against Israel causes conflict.

• 17. paul | November 26th, 2009 at 11:45 pm

  avi, if they give up the “resistence”they will be out of work and addicted to drugs.
  you can consider hezbollah as occupational therapy for people who achieved nothing in the vie quotidienne,and try always to get the others down let’s just say suicide assassin mentality with depressions based on the own collapse.

• 18. Doc1559 | November 26th, 2009 at 11:45 pm

  Obama al mahdi al muntazar ?? I never heard that b4…bala ta2fiye paul !

  Run away to your areas ?? HA didnt run away anywhere, they stood up back to back and fought till the end of the battle.

  Hundreds of thousands of Lebanese civilians mostly shiite fled their homes to avoid human casualties and loss of life, this is standard routine practiced ALL AROUND THE WORLD, especially when the civilians are facing the Israeli enemy , for example , back in may , when the pakistani attacks against taliban took place, some 500,000 fled their homes and ran away from the Taliban fighters, people usually run away from terrorism ya paul, you get it? . Seriously paul, where did you expect the civilian to go ?? some went north and some went to beirut, others went to syria and so on.. but lemme ask you this, did YOUR PEOPLE (Since 3m te7ke ta2fiye ya 3yb al chum 3lek) run away from HA b4 2000 ?? massi7it al jnub li into bil ouwet taraktuwon , hizeb aalah ma 2rab sawbun wla hejamun !! 7atta al 3umala massi7iye w shiaa hezb allah salamon lal gesh !!

  Lastly, my self resistance is to help the needy and the poor regardless of their tayffe and political affiliation. Would you like to sponsor a child for $ 30.00 a month ? If ya lemme know paul.. $1.00 a day is not gonna kill your pocket !!

• 19. avi | November 27th, 2009 at 12:09 am

  So why Doc don’t they sell their weapons to feed all those needy children if what you say is so true???And why are you Doc playing their game in the name of being charitable???Misery cannot be sold with weapons Doc so I don’t follow you.

• 20. Doc1559 | November 27th, 2009 at 12:30 am

  Avi/ Paul

  I have 2 thanksgiving dinner parties to attend and one ad7a ( Islamic eid) family gathering to go 2..

  I will be back in in a few hrs..

• 21. Doc1559 | November 27th, 2009 at 12:32 am

  Also all of you need to go back to the main topic ”LF must quit the government”

  Stop switching the subject around in order to run away from the truth..

• 22. paul | November 27th, 2009 at 12:54 am

  you never heard that before? you can’t know everything.

  HA are so intelligent so holly and divine,but they did not knew that israel will attack the whole lebanon,so i begin to doubt god.

  ya 3eib l choum 3leik wa7dak.

  3am trabbi7ne jmile ma 2arrabto 3al masi7iye w bit2ille bala ta2ifiye,rou7 s2aal shi3it jbeil (s.geagea ken ka2id lmanta2a)

  lei l ouwet 2aymta 2arrabo 3al islem ya zake?ma fi gher 7bay2a 2attal falastiniye w into kamen fa ma ta3mil 7alak 2iddees.

  and about sponsoring,do you really think we should tell everyone what we do for the others?wlak 7atta bheik chi kamen fi mouzeyade?wlooo.

• 23. hochoz | November 27th, 2009 at 2:47 am

  Ma3le Paul,

  we’ve been sponsoring all the mou2awimoun for more than 1$ a day by paying their electricity and water bills for the past 20 years….

• 24. ili | November 27th, 2009 at 4:22 am

  quitting is not the solution… we need every position to fight back…
  what can we do if we went home?

• 25. danny | November 27th, 2009 at 4:26 am

  paul leave Fido alone…After embarassing himself as usual with idiotic and stupid comments..Now he is trying to cover his dumb ass!!

• 26. HammerHead | November 27th, 2009 at 4:30 am

  Chou byedman enno ma tetla3 Tal Abib la Lebnen ba3ed ma yense7bo l israeliyyi mn cheb3a w tleil kfarchouba?

  Would HA put its arms down then?

• 27. mano | November 27th, 2009 at 4:45 am

  مسيحيو 14 آذار: ما تحقق في البيان انتصار

  LOOOOOOL

  LOOOOL
  LOOOOOOOOOL

• 28. Doc1559 | November 27th, 2009 at 7:44 am

  Paul 13

  You said : Doc,your self made resistence is terrible enought

  paul, this exactly why I answered you the way I did on 18 !!!!

  eh ya 3yb al chum 3lek , inta li fata7ta ta2ifiye mish ana.. read your 13 !! hayek hala2 badak te7ke civil war…. khalik zalameh mu7taram ya paul, don’t act like danny !! badak te7ke ta2ifiye thats fine ana ma badeh..

  hochoz

  We paid the heaviest price ever, it is the blood of our heroes. Have you forgotten ya hochoz ?? have you forgotten the 82 ijtiye7 ?? 96 anakid ghadab ?? July 06 ?? The Israeli occupation as a whole ?? It wasnt very long ago ya hochoz, it wasn’t very long at all when you collaborated with the enemy in order to win the war but end up losing it all. You are not paying anything, you are playing with your future. Keep playing..lek when sirtooo

  I just want to remind you ya hochoz that everything you enjoy in lebanon today is the result of someone’s sacrifice. The goal b4 the 06 war was to occupy Lebanon and divide it into mini counties the same way they did in Iraq. but they failed not bcuz of you , nooo they failed bcuz of those who stood up and fought against the plan. go read…

  avi

  I have nothing to do with the hizeb, why are you not understanding that ?? When I do good, I do it for my own good and not for anyone else. Anyway, HA are not only justified in going to war, they are obliged to do it, it is a freedom fight against your wars on lebanon… You went all out in your effort to destroy the PLO in lebanon in 82, but you failed to do so, you drove arafat to tunisia and left us with a stronger Palestinian fighters all around Lebanon… in 06 you went in with all your efforts to destroy HA and to create your new rules in the region, you once again failed to achieve it and left the Lebanese with a stronger HA thn what they were b4 the war… It is impossible to predict the future, but with no doubts in mind, you will attack Lebanon again and again..

  Danny

  shut- up you sound like a 10 yrs old !! When was the last time you predicted something and it came true ?? Bitzakirne bi geagea… deyman 3la ghalatt…

• 29. Doc1559 | November 27th, 2009 at 7:53 am

  Boys

  Go back to the topic : LF must quit the government !

  Mano

  LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL !! wel balda mashi mitel ma ken y2ul al 7ariri !!

• 30. mano | November 27th, 2009 at 7:54 am

  alla yir7amo 7aram howde il m3atareen defa3o 3an il ma7kami aktar min ibno w ekher shee zabalon

  pitty u

• 31. avi | November 27th, 2009 at 8:14 am

  Doc stronger PLO fighters but Arafat and many Palestinians fighters fled Lebanon and stronger Hezb that’s why UN soldiers inside Lebanon plus the missiles and kidnappings that both organizations used to initiate conflict must be invisible to you right Doc??????Israel just wants war right Doc therefor justifying your nonsense ,Doc stick to reality !!!!Hezb is terrifying your country firstly and if it was not scared it would do the same to mine!

• 32. danny | November 27th, 2009 at 9:00 am

  Bytari so far you have exposed yourself to be a foul mouthed no brain I*DI*O*T….Stop spamming and drooling…You are nauseating…

• 33. hochoz | November 27th, 2009 at 9:50 am

  Doc,

  “We paid the heaviest price ever, it is the blood of our heroes.”….
  u’r preaching about martyrdom to a party that sacrificed thousands to stand ground during civil war… and during peace time…..

  “it wasn’t very long at all when you collaborated with the enemy in order to win the war but end up losing it all.”… Do not Ever forget that you were part of a whole conspiracy that aimed on making the way to Haifa start from Jounieh….. We fought to survive while you lined up with pretty much the whole arab nation to have us killed because the idea of christians running an ARAB SPEAKING, not arab country, way better than any other arabs was bothering you.

  “I just want to remind you ya hochoz that everything you enjoy in lebanon today is the result of someone’s sacrifice.”
  We the Maronites have been making sacrifices for the past 1600 years. We’ve been fighting for our survival for centuries and will keep doing it for decades to come. It should never occur to u in any of your twisted ideas that u ever achieved something to be proud of. We on the other hand take full credit in the establishement of Lebanon, the great nation that u and your fellow terrorists are destroying.

  Finally, do not even think for a split second that if the LF didn’t exist, we’d be aligning with hezbollah or aoun…. Let’s not lie to each other and hide behind this lie called unity and secularism in Lebanon. You know that Hezballah is using its weapons to dominate the rest of the lebanese people and (to great surprise) terrorize the christians (Yes car thefts, the Maya Keyrouz incident, killing Samer Hanna, kidnapping Joseph Sader)…. You guys act like savages and dare to talk about honor, freedom, democracy…

  If Aoun and the rest of his supporters love being 2nd degree citizens, we the real maronites (from the first Patriarch til Cardinal Sfeir) will keep on resisting to live with dignity. That my friend is called true resistance.

• 34. Doc1559 | November 27th, 2009 at 9:53 am

  Avi

  You have been attacking Lebanon for the past 50 yrs (b4 and after Hizeballah) , y r u not understding that ??

  Your wars on Lebanon have many forms and are being fought by many people and different organizations..

  lets not go far .. lets review the past 5 yrs :

  Politically : You killed hariri(long proven) and then backed M14..

  Socially : Up to date, 60 alleged spies have been discovered by the Lebanese forces loooool I meant Lebanese authorities, including army generals !! For example.. do you know Jamal zaarura ?? she holds a Tunisian passport but was born in nahr al bared camp, she was trained by you in tunisia (fata7 al islam fighters were trained by the mossad in KSA as well) to carry out nassralah assassination.. she failed to complete her mission !!

  economically : You are always calling Lebanon a terrorist state, this way you can keep people away from visiting and investing in lebanon. Also, You are always therating to destroy Lebanon and and and..

  Military : You destroyed our country for the sake of 2 soldiers !! How could you do that ?? Didnt you suffer the most from nazism ?? didnt you suffer the most from fascism ?? Why are you acting like them ?? Werent you the warsaw ghetto victim at one point ?? and the list goes on..

• 35. paul | November 27th, 2009 at 10:47 am

  Doc,

  into yalle khalteen l syese bil ta2ifiyye ,ma ni7na minchen hek ma fi ni2ash bala ta2ifiyye.
  chil chi3ar almoukawama al ISLAMIYYA fi loubnan 3an 3alamak,chil hassan w kassem and and and hol killoun rjel deen,yi3ne bkilme tenye TDABDABO ba3den ta3a 2ille 3am 2i7ke ta2ifiyye.
  ba3den yalle bidi2 lbeb byisma3 ljaweb.
  i7na american slaves

• 36. w | November 27th, 2009 at 10:56 am

  hala2 ta we3yo el shabeb LOOOL

  LF must quite ???laaaaaaaaa are you kidding ma 3abena ra7 ta3mlo 15 w 16 1 17 azar ???

  sound Ja3jou3a mafi shi 3am byen2oush ma3o from predictions

  Byefta7 bay bayaaaa mahek ???;)

  medreh min nfata7 !!!LOOL

  DOC1559 : respect dude

  but are you really arguing with a jewish head ?? (its close to D head) they are the biggest lyres and back stabbers on earth its well written in history…

• 37. w | November 27th, 2009 at 11:00 am

  Paul lesh ma betshil bkerkeh w solben el ouwet w mar sharbil w alla ouwet 3a janab ???
  badak t3alim el ness shou ta3mil balish men mou7itak!!!

  sure you are american slave hala2 ta 3refet LOL???

  check the isareli kif 3am byeneghlo b site el ouwet !!!

• 38. paul | November 27th, 2009 at 11:02 am

  eh W…fik tsammina Abou jamra

• 39. paul | November 27th, 2009 at 11:07 am

  w,bkirke knise ma 7izb. ba3den wen cheyif salib l ouwet 3al officials sites chou m7ab7ab?
  american slave bil 2iklize kamen…hehehee.

  W isra2iliye for me are WELCOME. bjiblak shay ?

• 40. Mike | November 27th, 2009 at 11:11 am

  Doc don’t bother. You’re tryin to convince an iraqi wanabe israelite. He’s even more arab than us yet he promotes nazi-zionism.

• 41. Avi | November 27th, 2009 at 11:15 am

  Iraqi???I was born in Israel,my parents too ,an Arab I am sorry I am your half brother an Israelite ,but Mike I am fed up justifying what I am so if you don not agree I don’t care.

• 42. w | November 27th, 2009 at 11:27 am

  Smalla 3lek shou sari3

  ignoring the solben w kel el adesseh li mwal3in el deneh kermela

  shoubadeh bel page rou7 shouf 3ein el remeneh kiffi matrousheh solben

  m2ale3tin el 7itan sprays

  Bkerkeh 3emlinla 7orass men gher shar w sayra bas bet defi3 3ankoun… so ma bet massil el libneniyeh ba2a sayra bas bet massil el ouwet …

  for you israeliyeh are welcome go and live in in 7ayfa…
  traitors arent welcome in lebanon since ur gov consider it as ENEMY!!!

• 43. w | November 27th, 2009 at 11:31 am

  go and say Israeliye are welcome in front Wazir el 3adel Najjar

• 44. paul | November 27th, 2009 at 12:43 pm

  w, 3amil ma3ak chi 3atil?

  all israelis are welcome on this blog.
  civilian israeli are welcome in lebanon but not the IDF,because i like the jewish culture and especially the beautyful israeli girls.

  halla2 Doc byin7sid.

• 45. avi | November 27th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

  But Paul all Israelis must do army service,I would be lying if I told you I didn’t do it ……but still at least you recognize the beautiful women.I wish you would say we are all welcome and that you want peace with us all.But don’t worry I understand your point of view but still a part from IDF only 15 percent of Israelis can go to Lebanon…..well you are missing a lot Paul.

• 46. avi | November 27th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

  And Mike when my family lived in Iraq and they were enslaved in Dhimmitude ,when they stuck their necks out or tried to live in a place they weren’t allowed to they got murdered this is historic so my people left to ISRAEL to join their brothers the other tribes this is also historic ,anyways 3 generations later I was born in Israel and today Mike I am Iraqi ,sorry mike i am Israeli and free my independence is non negotiable and that goes for my rights too ,and no Mike I did not steel the lands of anybody ,but I did claim the lands that were owned or bought Jewish to stay that way,and in 1948 when the Arabs tried to steel our homes like they managed to do in Iraq we fought back and took strategic lands to make your annihilation of the Israeli state impossible!This is also historic,so if you want to cry to a European or an American pro Palestinian your rantings might work but with an Israelite that his family lived in Dar El Islam and in the worst of countries for Jews (Iraq or Yemen) this is impossible!

• 47. avi | November 27th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

  Here Mike not only Jews in Israel and proud to be Israelis anyways a gift from my Druze friend……

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXQ0UGrxCcY&feature=fvw

• 48. Darwish | November 27th, 2009 at 6:48 pm

  Quit the government after fighting so hard for four months to get a couple of portfolios? The writing has been on the wall for some time now and LF has played the same game that everyone has as well…in the end, they can either choose to be a part of the national charade that is in full display or they can isolate themselves. There are no good choices to be made N.

• 49. Doc1559 | November 27th, 2009 at 7:02 pm

  Mano, W and mike

  Thank you guys, I really appreciate your considerations.

  These ouwet guys are forced to choose between 2 or more strongly held party values (se3 7alifun amerca li be3tton again w se3 samir geagea w se3 7alifun saad yalle be3on kamen), this INTERNAL VALUES CONFLICT OF theirs is what keeping them the way they are…

  Felij la t3lej..

• 50. paul | November 28th, 2009 at 12:10 am

  hol chabeb masi7ieh chou baddak timna3oun yirsmo salib kamen?

  7izb allah lta2ifiye mirtibta bchi3arato lrasmiye manna min chauffeur mobillette aw tejir 7ashish b3albake.

  ma 3ejbitak bkirke fik tghayyir iza kint aslan mouraneh.

  oh yes i would like to live in haifa and have relationship to intersting people,while you can lose your time with a sandwish falafel ma3 bakha in 7oms where your relatives lives.

• 51. paul | November 28th, 2009 at 12:16 am

  akid l ouwet 7ersin bkirke ta ma yfouto zi3ran aoun mitl l ba_jam marra tenye 3laya

• 52. w | November 28th, 2009 at 2:37 am

  ma hol zo3ran li 3am te7keh 3anoun hinneh zo3ran el ouwet men 3ein el remeneh
  wa7ad menoun manno blibnen

  Paul 3awadna 3ala akazib el ouwet

  tla3o menoun hal 7araket !!!
  staghalayto bkerki b ma fihi el kifaya b kafeh inno Ja3ja3 3taraf b tefjir kniset el najet w 3tazar 3anna le2an ken 3am b 7ewil yeghtel 7bay2a

  w b kaffeh ino ouwet atalo Cardinal Albert Kherish .

  3am bet khaberna 3an zo3ran ??? LOL
  Ma shi3ar el ouwet = Mobilet Wassouf bezer 3al zewyeh w massb7a bel ra2beh , eh i forgot the Over doze

• 53. w | November 28th, 2009 at 2:46 am

  Paul go ahead all ma3ak and have relation with Hayfa wa akhawatiha who cares but since you said those words you dont have principles and all what you fight in the past farjet adesh hamak el watan

  ana bhanik

• 54. Delta | November 28th, 2009 at 3:04 am

  I am more happy with “bayan wizari ” than ja3far and Doc that is the one i have been looking for for a couple of years now. wait and see why….

• 55. Ahmed making a point | November 28th, 2009 at 3:18 am

  Delta

  and why is that ?? I am very upset about it !!

• 56. Ahmed making a point | November 28th, 2009 at 3:20 am

  W

  Are you the new doc1559 here ??

• 57. Mike | November 28th, 2009 at 8:58 am

  Doc sadi2ni ya zalami haydol bil blog mabya3erfo shu 3ambyi7ko. Bala mazi7. Lol.

  Avi, what’s your point?

• 58. Doc1559 | November 28th, 2009 at 9:41 am

  Mike

  fi shi ghalat khaye, mish ma32ul hek !! ya fi fare2 bil 3mor ben li bloggers ya fi fare2 bil sociability level, ana siret chek 2inu fi ba3deh chabeb hun ba3dun mish dahren min al char2iyeh yet !!!! fi shi mish mazbut bil mu3daleh.. ya zalami 7adan bi kazib 3la 7alu ?? mitel wa7ad ma3o cancer bass ma badu yssadi2 2inu ma3o cancer !!!! btizrikun bil zewye bibalcho personal attacks hahaha.. I don’t hate them, walla no, bass biza3l 3layun ba3dun bifakro bi hal tari2aa..

  Avi

  nice rebuttal on 47 !!

• 59. Mike | November 28th, 2009 at 9:51 am

  Listen man. I was kind of like that. But you need to open your eyes and see reality as it is.

  Many people here have numerous misconceptions and lack of data on what’s really happening in the world. We need to help them open their eyes and not judge people by personal hate towards others.

• 60. Doc1559 | November 28th, 2009 at 10:14 am

  Mike

  I totally agree with you. Bcuz of childhood civil war events are retained in our brains, we really need to break that wall and think outside the box , maybe outside lebanon as you said….

• 61. paul | November 28th, 2009 at 12:02 pm

  yes i dont have principles just like the other 99% of arabs countries and 60% lebanese people.

  why losing time on this blog go and fight,surely only if HA give you a permition

• 62. paul | November 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

  Ja3ja3 3taraf b tefjir kniset el najet w 3tazar 3anna le2an ken 3am b 7ewil yeghtel 7bay2a”

  haha,3taraflak ilak wa7dak aw lalkil?

• 63. avi | November 28th, 2009 at 12:49 pm

  Mike my point is we are a nation ;a real country with a real passion to survive.

• 64. Mike | November 28th, 2009 at 12:54 pm

  Alright avi. If that’s the slightest case. We need to atleast see the implementing of the arab peace initiative that requires israel to return to the 1967 borders.

• 65. avi | November 28th, 2009 at 1:00 pm

  I agree with you on that but for that some conditions have to change ,like the 40 000 missiles pointed on Israel from Lebanon ,or the crazy war mongering going on in all the militias,if not I am afraid Israelis will not buy the Arab peace initiative and they will keep their strategic advantage.

• 66. avi | November 28th, 2009 at 1:13 pm

  Mike you can not ask us to give up lands that were taken in a war that you have no intention of stopping….peace means peace.

• 67. avi | November 28th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

  Mike please this is what I mean by war……..

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkfgXeOslOM&feature=related

• 68. Mike | November 28th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

  Alright. Let Israel give up it’s 800 nuclear warheads. Give Palestine back. Pay compensation for the millions killed in iraq, palestine, lebanon etc. Disarm the the IDF and move into the sea??

  I was just saying move back to the 1967 borders. You guys can’t even do that? Israel the “country” who steals palestinian land doesn’t even legally have the right to be on those borders and this is widely known.

  And the way you think, we can all attack israel and gain back the land in a war and kick you guys out to live in tents. That’s peace right?

• 69. Mike | November 28th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

  Why am I even debating someone who was subject to zionist brainwashing and sends me irrelevant youtube videos.

  You guys have problems,this says enough:

  “A local authority in Israel has announced that it is establishing a special team of youth counsellors and psychologists whose job it will be to identify young Jewish women who are dating Arab men and “rescue” them.”

• 70. avi | November 28th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

  But Mike what are the borders of Palestine???Do you even recognize a state called Israel…..that’s what I said earlier or even from my dialogues with you; a Jewish people and it’s minorities???Do you even recognize the fact that you initiated this war when there was a Palestine and no refugees???Do you even consider having to give concessions on the Israeli state while asking Israel to make all the concessions???Do you even consider stopping this war on the Israeli people and (not only on the state ????)

• 71. avi | November 28th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

  as for comment 69 ,it is irrelevant to all what is happening in Israel…..the same can be said about Palestinians so whatever…..anyways my cousin married a christian women so I don’t care…….And the state also does not care ,sorry Mike we have bigger problems.

• 72. avi | November 28th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

  Mike don’t forget Israel is a democratic country ,if an Israeli citizen wants to say bug off to the president ;religious or not ;Jewish or not.We have no militias that are above the law and brainwash us to hate our neighboors all day.

• 73. Delta | November 28th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

  LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL @ 59, 60 wle mazbout psychiatrist 3amlin hahahahahhahahaha walla bedahko for real………

• 74. Delta | November 28th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

  Mike if you are a christian believer you oull back your #68 and go read your bible………… for it contradict every thing said from god to Moses ,……….I would not go there you make great congnitive points debating us but you are going abit too far?!

• 75. w | November 28th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

  Ouwet wel souriyeh khanda2 wa7ad LOL
  george 3edwen

• 76. Doc1559 | November 30th, 2009 at 7:56 am

  Hochoz

  No prb, here is my answer;

  You say : Do not Ever forget that you were part of a whole conspiracy that aimed on making the way to Haifa start from Jounieh….. We fought to survive while you lined up with pretty much the whole arab nation to have us killed because the idea of christians running an ARAB SPEAKING, not arab country, way better than any other arabs was bothering you

  Answer : Half of history is hiding the truth from the youth, what you’re saying above does not describe to the shiite of Lebanon nor it belongs to their political stand at the time, the Jouniyeh conspiracy belongs to PLO, Murabitun and Kamal junblat, the shiite were not part of it nor supported its sectarian war. You need to read more about Moussa al sader and OUR political stand against those who murdered you and tried to take over your jouniyeh, Sader’s political relations with the PLO were tense at all time and mistrusted on many level. Imam sader recognized the insecurity of the Maronites, and supported them in public for years b4 his kidnap. Like the shiite, the Maronites were a minority in Lebanon and therfore many of their leaders found a strong ally in Mousa al sader ect.. here is a small example ;

  موسى الصدر في كنيسة الكبوشية ويوحنا بولس الثاني في الجامع الأموي

  كريم بقرادوني

  الإرادة أقوى من المرض، والإيمان أقوى من التاريخ. بإرادته الفولاذية تغلب البابا يوحنا بولس الثاني البالغ من العمر واحداً وثمانين عاماً على مرض “الباركينسون” الذي يعوق حركته لينجز رحلة صعبة وتاريخية على خطى القديس بولس.

  وبإيمانه المسكوني الجامع حاول أن ينتصر على الصراعات التاريخية التي تتحكم بالعلاقات المسيحية – المسيحية والإسلامية – المسيحية، ليكون أول بابا يزور أثينا منذ الإنشقاق الكبير في العام 1054 بين الكنيستين الكاثوليكية والأرثوذكسية، وأول بابا في التاريخ يدخل مسجداً حين صلى أمام ضريح يوحنا المعمدان في الجامع الأموي الكبير في دمشق.

  من أثينا أظهر البابا مدى حرصه على إعادة اللحمة بين المسيحيين على الرغم من اعتراض عدد من رجال الدين في الطائفة الارثوذكسية على زيارته، ومن دمشق أثبت مدى تمسكه بحوار الأديان، وقد شجعه في سعيه الاستقبال الحار الذي أعده له السوريون على خلاف اليونانيين.

  زيارة أثينا هي خطوة مهمة على طريق المصالحة بين الكاثوليك والأرثوذكس. وزيارة دمشق هي خطوة أخرى على طريق التقارب المسيحي – الإسلامي في العالم بدءاً من الشرق الأوسط، وهو مهد الديانات الثلاث، وتأسيساً على النموذج اللبناني الذي خصه البابا في العام 1997 بزيارة لافتة وارشاد رسولي مميز.

  لحظة الإعلان عن عزم البابا يوحنا بولس الثاني على أن يصلي في الجامع الأموي، اتجهت أفكاري تواً إلى صلاة أخرى اقامها منذ ربع قرن ونيف الإمام موسى الصدر في كنيسة الكبوشية ببيروت في شباط1975، وقد أمَ المؤمنين المسيحيين والقى فيهم عظة كانت الأولى التي يقيمها إمام مسلم في كنيسة مسيحية.

  بابا يصلي في مسجد وإمام يصلي في كنيسة، بهذا يسير العالم إلى خلاصه. ويبرز لبنان شهيداً وشاهداً: شهيداً لفظاعة حرب الأديان، وشاهدا على إمكانية التعايش فيما بينها.

  لم يسمع أحد الصلاة الصامتة التي أداها البابا منذ أيام أمام ضريح يوحنا المعمدان في الجامع، غير أن العديد من اللبنانيين ما زال يذكر العظة التي ألقاها الإمام منذ سنوات في كنيسة الكبوشية. ولا أخطئ إذا ما زعمت أن بعض صلاة البابا الصامتة اليوم تلتقي وعظة الإمام العلنية في الأمس.

  صلاة البابا الدائمة هي من أجل الإنسان والإنسانية والسلام والوئام. وعظة الإمام في كنيسة الكبوشية جاءت تحت عنوان: ” حفاظاً على الإنسان”. واختار الإمام هذا العنوان ليؤكد على أولوية الإنسان ووحدة الهدف بين الأديان. وقد استهل عظته بالقول: ” اجتمعنا من أجل الإنسان الذي كانت من أجله الأديان.. والأديان واحدة حيث كانت في خدمة الهدف الواحد: دعوة إلى الله وخدمة للإنسان، وهما وجهان لحقيقة واحدة.

  وتابع الإمام عظته فأشار إلى أن الخلافات بين الأديان بدأت تظهر وتكبر حين ” اتجهت الأديان إلى خدمة نفسها، ثم تعاظم اهتمامها بنفسها حتى كادت ان تنسى الغاية، فتعاظم الخلاف واشتد، وازدات محنة الإنسان وآلامة”.

  ولو أردت أن أقارن بين ما قاله الإمام في بيروت وما يقوله البابا في كل أرجاء العالم لوجدت تطابقاً شبه كامل في نظرتهما إلى الله والإنسان والكون. وقد رأى كل من منظاره وأحياناً بألفاظ متقاربة بأن الأديان هي في الأصل واحدة لأنها تؤمن بالله الواحد، وهدف الأديان هو الإنسان الواحد، ومصير هذا الكون واحد. وفي كل مرة ابتعدنا عن الله وعن الإنسان تفرقنا شيعاً ومذاهب وطوائف ودخلنا في حروب لا تنتهي.

  حذر الإمام من آفات الكذب والنفاق والغرور والكبرياء، ومن أنانيات التمييز العنصري واحتقار الآخرين وحب الذات حين يصير عبادة للذات، وحب المال حين يصبح هدفا يسحق ويفرق، وبه يبلع الكبير الصغير. ووصل به المنطق الى الإعلان أن ” المال هذا فتنة” فارتجت جدران الكنيسة واهتزت ضمائر المؤمنين.

  ذكر المسيحيين بقول الحبر الأعظم حينذاك بولس السادس بأن ” المسيح والفقير شخص واحد”. وأشار إلى ما ورد في الأثر الاسلامي الثابت:” أنا – أي الله – عند المنكسرة قلوبهم، أنا كنت عند المريض عندما عدته، وعند الفقير عندما ساعدته، ومع المحتاج عندما سعيت لقضاء حاجته”.

  نادى بالحرية، وندد بمعارضيها والمعتدين عليها، وندد بكل ما يمسها ” من الاستبداد إلى الإستعمار، ومن الاقطاع إلى الإرهاب الفكري، وادعاء الوصاية على الناس واتهامهم بأنهم لا يفهمون”.

  نبهَ إلى مخاطر الإنزلاق إلى الإقتتال بين اللبنانيين نتيجة تنمية بعض الطوائف والاتجاهات وحرمان البعض الآخر. فعندما تنمو السياسة والإدارة والسوق والعمران بصورة غير منسقة تصبح حياة الإنسان على حد قوله ” متارجحة بين الحروب الساخنة والباردة، وبين فترة تضميد الجراح والسلام المسلح.. فكلما نمت حاجة من حاجاته على حساب الآخرين أصبحت وبالاً. وكلما نمت جماعة أو حاجات الجماعة على حساب جماعات وحاجات أصبحت وبالاً ومصيبة.

  عظة موسى الصدر في شباط 1975 جاءت قبل شهرين من اندلاع حرب لبنان، عسى أن تكون صلاة يوحنا الثاني في مدينة القنيطرة وغرسه شجرة الزيتون في أرضها إيذانا باقتراب السلام في الشرق الأوسط.

  البيرق

  Second, you say : We the Maronites have been making sacrifices for the past 1600 years. We’ve been fighting for our survival for centuries and will keep doing it for decades to come. It should never occur to u in any of your twisted ideas that u ever achieved something to be proud of. We on the other hand take full credit in the establishement of Lebanon, the great nation that u and your fellow terrorists are destroying.

  answer : do not generalize and do not label as you go, a big portion of the maronites are on our side , what do you call them ?? traitors ehhhhh, ah ya charif inta !! we are not teror**st , nooo, it is your LF militia that has the worst record ever, no need to go there. The Maronites of Lebanon never had their own state, they were bunch of communities linked together, so please spare me your ”our country” conspiracy theory. ma 7adan da3ss 3la ra2btak la twfi2 3la lebanon 1942 !! ma trabi7na jmileee.. Now tell me what have you achieved in the past 50 yrs istez hochoz ???? Nothing maybe ??

  Lastly , my right to resist is a fundamental principle to me, we WILL resist and fight back.

  The occupiers could stay 10, 50, 100 years, but in the end they leave. I believe this occupation will be resisted.
  Quotation of Hassan Nasrallah

• 77. w | December 2nd, 2009 at 12:25 pm

  -Zahra on NTV : No PROB WITH GMA we are not attacking him Personally ( LOL ) and we already talked about 3ouroubeh and Israel is an Enemy…

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