15,00 حفل التخرج الجامعي السنوي العشرين للطلاب الجامعيين في التعبئة التربوية المركزية في “حزب الله” في قاعة مجمع سيد الشهداء – الرويس – الحي الابيض.

I listened carefully to Nasrallah’s speech today from the beginning till the end, and watched the crowds reaction’s to his statements.
In a popular ceremony, i would understand that masses would be present cheering blindly for whatever he says and wishing death to Amrika el Chaytan ..

This happens in all popular speeches, not just HA’s speeches … but today was different, it was a graduation ceremony for almost 1750 students, graduated from respectable institutions, maybe not the fanciest schools, but the level of education in Lebanon is pretty high in most colleges and schools.

Those students were like robots, i am almost confident they did not understand one word of what Nasrallah said. I mean usually when someone jokes in such speeches, you expect laughters from the audience .. but nothing ! This happened more than one time yet they failed to understand the joke apparently or simply were asked not to interact ??

Instead everytime Nasrallah goes quiet, it is a sign that they should applaud or simply cheer for him ..

What a shame walla ..




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  • 1. lebanon | April 8th, 2007 at 7:19 pm

    first i wld assert that when i read N10452′posts i feel i’m reading someone “b 7ajm l watan”..it might be that ur posts N10452 are the loveliest to me but this time u were a failure..i felt u sought and dug and searchd in the speech of the hizballa sec.gen. but found nthg so u chose to comment on the graduates and describe them as sheep(not sheeps)..i too followed the speech but to know what the man had to say..it seems you followed it hoping to find sthg despising..don’t u find that it’s better to comment on the resistance guys who have uni degrees ..i ‘ve always heard people saying that those in the hizballa resistance are illiterate,unemployed,and desperate men who call their suicide an act of resistance and martyrdom..let’s look at the full-part of the glass and avoid being negative all the time..by the way..how did u expect them to react?and how did u know they didn’t laugh?did they have to roar?

  • 2. N10452 | April 8th, 2007 at 8:00 pm

    lebanon,
    I corrected the title, my mistake.

    As for the speech itself and the audience, i am not looking here to attack Nasrallah for the sake of it, and i posted concerning the speech itself elsewhere, which is honestly a very good one if only someone different than Nasrallah with more credibility was giving it.

    Now back to our main topic, there is a different btw the “m3allameen” wel “msa2affeen” and unfortunately we have very few msa2affeen bil balad ..

    I watched the audience carefully and i have been to tons of political conferences, i expected reactions to jokes or political satire yet they kept silent and didnt move .. as if they were there just to clap whenever asked to ..

    I feel sad for our new generations, not just HA’s ones, who are being brainwashed and taught to follow blindly and today was one example ..

    I will post on the speech itself maybe later on, as i said it is a perfect speech if only it didnt come from a person who collaborated with Syria and is still and who was involved in the stealing and still is ..

    As for having early elections or asking the people to decide, let us remove the last Syrian puppet in Lebanon, the president and then kel 7addis 2elo 7addeess ..

    Hope to hear from u more often ..
    Thank u for the compliment, i ll try not to dissapoint u in my future posts :)

    Happy Easter

  • 3. lebanon | April 8th, 2007 at 9:53 pm

    happy easter to you.. a million thanks for wt u wrote especially this part”I feel sad for our new generations, not just HA’s ones, who are being brainwashed and taught to follow blindly and today was one example .. “and i ‘m sure this applies to ALL ALL ALL parties followers or the so-calld supporters..best described as”mob” ..today they clap for this and tomorrow for that..
    i won’t place myself as nasralla ’s advocate ..but do u really believe his credibility is subject to suspicions..with an open mind i try to get closer to all differing opinions and try to get to the heart of the truth, be it anywhere(i think hearing from u continuously will help in this sense)..this guy is regarded in (israel) as a highly credible one..and the Winograd committee is now assuring the facts that he has used to uncover during the july war…
    as to “pro-syrianism” or pro-X be this X any country in the world,i would be v thankful if u pinpoint to a single “za3eem” (regardless of their declared motivations and intentions)who has not been a pro-whatever..
    whatever the reason,it’s still following some other country or countries ,and this is not acceptable in any “independent “and “sovereign “country..are we not mature yet?till when will we beg other countries to aid us against each other..
    as to your hint to the difference between sa2afé and 3ilm ,i agree with you ,but why did i feel that your indication in this context inspires that these graduates are only m3allameen and the msa22afeen are somewhere else..correct for me and i hope i’m mistaken..
    again happy easter ..and despite different perspectives i feel like we are friends and our “lebanonity” unites us..

  • 4. proud to b lf | April 8th, 2007 at 9:57 pm

    kbir ya lebanon……………..n10452 lol bahdalak……7assouna will go to hell soon….2abwab l ja7eem sa toufta7 fi wajhika ya 7ashara iraniyye moudannasa bi 2afkar l katl wal damar……..:)
    3aybon 3alayka ya waladon jaal fil shawari3i fakiran fal2an 2ata bil mal wal sila7 fa yatamarjal……ra2ayna mislouka w 2akbar fa 2anta lasta men jadeeden….kawna l 2akwa wal 2aghna wal 2akbar fa la shi2on yamna3ouna min moukawamatike……….
    bashir 7ayy fina wel 7akeem 3am byefdeena!!

  • 5. Eiffel | April 8th, 2007 at 10:02 pm

    Hey N,
    Unfortunately you’re right when you say ‘there is a different btw the “m3allameen” wel “msa2affeen” and unfortunately we have very few msa2affeen bil balad ..’.

    Unfortunately this applies to all political parties in Lebanon without any exception…

    We should lobby for a free lebanese before we do it for a free lebanon. Maybe I’ll post something about it.

    I would have personally attacked his speech.
    It really sucks as he promises us darker days ahead. He also defends the dickhead in Baabda.

    Happy Easter and all the best

  • 6. Mohammad | April 8th, 2007 at 10:24 pm

    This time I have to disagree with you N10452 regarding “Perfect Speech” (sorry). What perfect? It is full of Bullshit! Let me count few:
    1- Regarding removing Lahoud: He mentioned that 14 march failed because of “a- Lahoud ZALAMEH” & ” b- HA allies” He ignored totally the actuall reasons which were: a-Batrak refusal of using STREETS, b- GMA refusal (unless he is the alternative). At that time, ma kan fi wara2et tafehom!
    2- Tribute: Hassona mentioned clearly that this tribute has pre-set decisions to be taken. So, all what they said before about accepting it WERE BULLSHIT but this time he CLEARLY mentioned it although we know it indirectly.
    3- 40 Billion stolen by us: Who stole them? His master Hafez and Bashar and Rostom. His army waging wars left & right. His party financial support that was sucking all governments money using syrian power……
    4- He said: if they didn’t give us 11-19, then we wait 2 years!!!! WHAT TWO YEARS? who is he to take a decision to freeze a whole country for 2 years? Where are we? In Tehran or in Da7ye? or he gives himself a new position “Morshed Al Jomhoreye Al Lobnaneyah”?!!!!!!
    For God sake, somebody reminds him that HITLER was more powerful than him but in the end, he committed suicide after destroying his country.
    God Bless Lebanon.

  • 7. N10452 | April 8th, 2007 at 10:46 pm

    lebanon,
    All parties have this ‘culte du chef’ theory, whereas we all praise the leader and political orientation and youth formation is totally ignored, or the strict minimum is done. All political parties failed in Lebanon because they had no plans and no visions and were more of a one-man show rather than a democratic party.

    As for Nasrallah, His credibility is more than subject to suspicions, let me remind he was the one who promised a calm summer before kidnapping two soldiers, his actions are not reflecting his speeches, he claims Hezbollah doesnt want a civil war, but fails to stop his supporters from sabotaging streets in Christian & Sunnite regions, and sends them to block roads in Anti-Hezbollah regions (Black Tuesday).

    And there are a lot more points who are true if seen from a neutral point, but not from Nasrallah’s position .. You cannot talk about strenghening the army when you have an armed militia stopping the Lebanese army from spreading on all Lebanese soil.

    Being a Pro_Syrian is different from being supportive of any other country ( except Israel or Palestine of course), Syria, Israel & Palestine are Lebanon’s ennemies, they have invaded and killed our sons, the US and Europe are offering money and political support, nothing that threatens our independance or sovereignty but on the contrary.
    I blame Hezbollah for sticking with a criminal country such as Syria that harmed our country like no one else did.

    “but why did i feel that your indication in this context inspires that these graduates are only m3allameen and the msa22afeen are somewhere else..correct for me and i hope i’m mistaken..

    No i never intended to talk in a sectarian way, and i wished everyone would take this thread in a constructive manner and from a general overview, that our youth is getting an education but is lacking orientation and is being brainwashed ..

    “despite different perspectives i feel like we are friends and our “lebanonity” unites us..”

    It is more than normal to have different opinions, what is crucial is to be able to argue in a respectful and civilized and constructive way to be able to resolve those issues and that is unfortunatelly what we are lacking in Lebanon.

  • 8. N10452 | April 8th, 2007 at 10:56 pm

    Mohammad,
    The Lahoud part is partially right because 14M Christians failed to remove him and dragged themselves into small personal fights with him instead of pressuring him the right way .. akeed manno zalameh am not agreeing on those terms .. but yes we should have done more.

    All am saying is that if it came from a neutral person, one would consider the points raised, but when you have no credibility whatsoever to talk about such stuff, better stay quiet then speech and give others lessons.

    the 40 billion $ are the responsability of the past governments as well as Syria and HA and honestly the only ones who can come out clean of this debt are Geagea & Aoun.

    we have reached a deadlock and yes he doesnt mind waiting 2 years since he has nothing to lose.

  • 9. Get over it | April 9th, 2007 at 1:54 am

    10452 ; Did you understand his speech?! Seriously now ? In case you did ,plz analyse it for the media….

  • 10. lebanon | April 9th, 2007 at 8:44 am

    to the lf proud guy ..with respect ..
    using demeaning words goes against lf principles and sa2afé..i hope u present sthg that affects readers’ in a positive way..you either convince them ,or at last they continue to respect you ..calling people by names indicates political bankruptcy and lack of evidence..why not follow N10452’s decent way..by and large we are what we write and say

  • 11. lebanon | April 9th, 2007 at 9:04 am

    dear N
    well i never forget the july war and the hot summer we had recently..but are you really convinced that america is really a lovely supporter of lebanon?
    what about john boulton’s recent declarations regarding america’s intervention and insistance to extend the war ?i love this way of supporting the lebanese people..it might be that HB made a mistake by kidnapping the soldiers..but America made a sin when it had the power to stop the war but it didn’t..au contrâire,it used its power to cause more casualities..
    i hope this is not the support you look for..and any money in the whole world -be it american,european or asian – will never blind us from seeing the truth and hoping for a free lebanon and a free lebanese people..

  • 12. lebanon | April 9th, 2007 at 9:28 am

    i have a question in my mind and it keeps bothering me..why is that all of a sudden the 14M woke up and realized that it’s unconstitutional to extend la77oud’s term..most of the 14marchers were in power and contributed to extending hrawi’s term..i ‘m not waiting to get a response like the syrian threats and ..
    so the roots of the dilemma we are facing now go back to putting persons above the laws and amending the constitution “marra wa7ida” ..and imagine how many “marra wa7ida” we have had ..
    being a puppet is not restricted to one party or to one person ..we have so many puppets who are the slaves of external wills or of their own narrow interests..
    when politicians sanctify their interests and recieve dictations the outcome is the lebanon we have now..
    submitting to the syrian threats is a betrayal of the electors who trusted their MP’s to work in compliance with lebanon’s welfare without fear of losing power and chair,or even life..
    our respectable MPs could have kept lebanon from going into this ordeal simply by not amending the constitution marra wa7ida..defying pressures and constraints..they might have lost a rank but they would surely have saved their dignity and ours..

  • 13. Mohammad | April 9th, 2007 at 10:32 am

    lebanon,

    Let me add few additional things to what N10452 told you.
    1- Regarding clapping for a leader blindly: ALL lebanese parties followers clap for their leaders and support them for their political position, however, when it comes to HA, his followers don’t only support him because he is HA leader but also because he is the REPRESENTATIVE OF GOD! Believe me, I am not exaggerating and I am 100% sure of what I am saying. Hence, to have somebody as a representative of GOD means that this person cannot commit mistakes and so he is always right. This situation is not applicable to any other party where we all say that our leaders are humans and they do commit mistakes.
    2- Regarding Pro-X and Pro-Y: Can you name which countries do not want LEBANON to independent?
    USA? No, since we have no OIL.
    France? No, it is our MOTHER since ages.
    ONLY 2 countries: Syria that assumes Lebanon is part of its land. And, Iran, that needs a lands to fight Israel from.
    Can you tell me which country requested Lebanon to do something against his independece excluding Syria & Iran? If you have any please tell us.
    Syria & Iran are dealing with their Pros as SLAVES! (Either you do this or no more weapons… either you rebel or GOD will be angry with you… either you take the foreign ministry or christians will do hidden agreement with USA.. either you appoint the General secuity officer or Sunnis will dominate the borders….etc)
    Unfortunatly, this is HA situation.

  • 14. John | April 9th, 2007 at 2:18 pm

    Lebanon:
    You say:
    “I have a question in my mind and it keeps bothering me..why is that all of a sudden the 14M woke up and realized that it’s unconstitutional to extend la77oud’s term..most of the 14marchers were in power and contributed to extending hrawi’s term..i ‘m not waiting to get a response like the syrian threats and ..”

    I have a question for you:
    How come 8M forces ’suddenly’ remembered that the current government is unconstitutional? Don’t you think that it was a coincidence that only when the Internation Tribunal case was on the table, that they remembered that the government (which they of course participated in) is unconstitutional due to the 2000 law (which of course they backed and went to the elections based on it without any complaints)?

  • 15. lebanon | April 9th, 2007 at 4:03 pm

    dear mohammad,
    what i always long for is an objective viewpoint
    and indeed i am not in the position of taking sides or defending any political party or za3eem ..after all each of them is pulling the quilt to their side..their conflicts and clashes have ruined our lives and relations..
    if supporters are aware of what is going on they will no more clap for anybody..
    is there any country other than syria and israel that doesnot call for an independent lebanon???all countries -including syria and iran-want indpendence for lebanon but every country defines this independence as suits its interests..
    bottom line is that we need to count on ourselves ,to believe in our potentials and to stop recieving messages and dictations coming from east and west.
    as to cleanliness and theft, two can’t be thieves :they whose morals donot allow misbehavior,and they who aren’t able to because they don’t or didnot have the chance ..stealing is not the only crime that politicians might commit.there are dozens of crimes and when it comes to crimes in lebanon noone doesnot have a title with a degree of honor.. they’ve all brought catastrophes unto lebanon under different names ..

  • 16. paul | April 9th, 2007 at 7:47 pm

    The problem is that in every discussion we open the gates of the past.everyone of us knows what the politicians made while the war. none of those was holly… since the most of us want to have those politicians and no others, then we must find a starting point. the dead to excavate, brings only mischief, and leads to infinite debates . we must understand what they NOW want after the departure of the syrier…Nasrallah fear that his past overhauled him…Geagea+Jumblat want the modern future,they lerned from the past…so i said honestly, we must decide between…the united states of lebanon? or jumhuriet libnanistan?this is unfortunately the reality.by the way, §aoun must meet a decision…UFF

  • 17. 3awne ma7et | April 9th, 2007 at 8:01 pm

    n10452 bede es2alak so2al wa7ad bass mane 3am defi3 3an nasrala wala shi i just want to ask you this.when someone from ouwet make a speech he never says smthg wrong everything that he says is right?lei wala mara nta2adet 7adan menKoun aw men 7oulafe2koun ento perfect ma 3endkoun aghlat ta wa7ad yente2eda??ok this is a lf blog bass el wa7ad ya sadi2e lezim yente2id 7alo w ysa7i7 aghlato abel ma yrou7 yente2id el 3alam. ra7 a3tik example b 14 february 2007 sme3et 7alifak junblat?sme3et el tari2a li 7eke fiya kel hal 3alam?ma sheftak nta2adto .w hala2 ma l2it shi t7oto fa 3ala2et 3ala hal shi el bassit taba3 mberi7.lek ya sadi2e i repeat mane 3am defi3 3a nassrala bass 3am be7ke manti2 kheda hayde nassi7a la ba3den.
    AL MASSI7 KAM…7AKAN KAM!! HAPPY EASTER.

  • 18. Get over it | April 9th, 2007 at 8:17 pm

    10452 ,Mohamed;

    Is it because of your prejudice , failure and unfairness toward your people ,now you are allowing yourself to curse other politicians? Why dont you analyse the speech and learn from it (positive or negative way) ? In fact , you are just like your leaders , every time they open their mouths , they sound so funny and pathetic. In this case im gonna allow myself to be just like you (obtain the right to curse and criticize any person on top of my head?! Is this how we deliberate manners?

    I truly agree with you on some of your remarks , but you are still making the same mistakes ;

    MR 10452 ; HA and nassralah did not want a civil war! They did not send their gangs and supportes to Christian & Sunnite areas , how come mate? They are the ones who told their supportes to pull out of the streets so no more blood will spread around us! Mate , you know very well what HA fighters will do in tariq al jdide or any other area in case they have a CIVIL WAR plan in their heads !! Comon now? You are not an ameteur to write something like the above!! HA did not fire a bullet in tariq jdide, but why? They couldnt, or the dont have it? You know who used weapons and placed snipers on top of their buildings! Face it.
    Mohamed; 40 billion took place during hariri’s time , 14TH of march were pro syrian and then they turned the table around. On the other hand HA are pro syrian -iranian (mitel ma badak sammiyon)!!. Also, AOUNIST ,they did not change their point of views or patriotic strategies regarding lebanon and freedom ! Trust me guys , the wind of change on its way again, and soon we will see the 14th of march TURNING THE TABLE ONE MORE TIME TO THEIR GOODS, For fact manners and integrity our 14th of march leaders look like an amateur teenager (who was lost after the death of his parents) Kamal,bashir and rafik died on the battle field as heroes, they died for a reason, but the reason to have their ORPHANS behind us is unrealistic and potentially damaging for our country and hopes. Plz take them away.
    In conclusion , we should be optimistic ,however,our youth should learn from us and react to our issues instead of being clowns, we should teach them how to fight racism , radicalism and hatred! We should teach them how to become LEBANESE for all lebanon. Civil war is far away unless you are going to kill more shiaa in tariq jdide , injure more FPMers from the back (marek houwayek and friends) ect…The tribunal is our demad , but le me ask you this ; WHO’S AVOIDING IT? WHO ‘S NOT HELPING JUDGE BRAMETZ?
    thank you , be lebanese for once !

  • 19. N10452 | April 9th, 2007 at 8:51 pm

    lebanon,
    I am convinced that no country want to help for the sake of it, however i believe in mutual interests btw us and other countries, interests that we should exploit ..
    And since the US is talking about democracy and defending our sovereignty, it would be idiotic to stand against it or wish it death …

    This is what i believe in .. i could care less about the Americans or French .. i want the best for my country and i dont think i will see Americans invading us if they offer help ..unlike Iranians and Syrians.

    Now concerning the July war, Americans wanted to finish off Hezbollah for being a terrorist party, however the IDF failed them, civilians die in every war, this is a sad fact, but trust me if IDF had finished Hezbollah and not fought so horribly, people wouldnt be talking about this ..

    This is the sad fact of wars ..

  • 20. N10452 | April 9th, 2007 at 8:53 pm

    3awne ma7et,
    I wish you read all the posts i write and not just those u feel like reading, because i have critisized the LF and its speeches and leadership more than i can remember .. and i get attacks from LFers because i dare to speak of mistakes being done inside the LF ..

    Cheers and Happy Easter to you too ..

  • 21. N10452 | April 9th, 2007 at 9:00 pm

    Djuan,
    let me remind you this post was not concerning the speech.. i told u i will post about the speech later on .

    Back to HA, its armed presence is a threat for initiating a civil war, and the attacks on Christian regions that occured in the past few months are very alarming .. same for the attacks that were led by Sunnite extremists also on that Black Sunday ..

    You cannot have an armed community and armed militia and control ur people’s reactions .. you cannot block roads by force and impose your will on others, you cannot threaten politicians on TV, such actions lead to a civil war whether you want it or not ..

    As for the tribunal, everyone is helping Brammertz except Syria, this whole propaganda on the non-cooperative country did not work out and they did offer all the info needed ..
    However the criminals ( Syrians) refuse to accept the tribunal and soon will be faced to the Security council and then we ll see what happens ..

    Why didnt 8th of march ministers vote for that tribunal ?? who needs amendments on a tribunal if he knows he s innocent ??

    The US CANNOT control this tribunal, this is the UN here, mich dekkene and there are a lot of countries who will veto unfair decisions .. so please tell me why didnt u vote on it ?

  • 22. 3awne ma7et | April 9th, 2007 at 10:57 pm

  • 23. lebanon | April 9th, 2007 at 11:12 pm

    john,
    i have a question for you..where did u get in my post that i’m in the position of defending 8marchers or i believe that sudden awakenings in one side justify the sudden awakenings in the other one..neither of these..
    my point in this post was not the sudden awakening of the 14marchers..i clearly stated that putting persons above the law and amending the constitution “marra wa7ida” for a million times is the essence of the problem we are having now..the respectable MPs who were convinced that extending la77oud’s term would bring a catastrophe upon lebanon could have saved us all this trouble by refusing to sign..whatever they were supposed to pay-chair,rank,blood or life-is nthg compared to the problems that issued from extending the term..

  • 24. lebanon | April 9th, 2007 at 11:18 pm

    n10452
    i’ve always wanted to know what the criterion of classifying persons or parties as terrorists is..so i need to know why party X is classified as terrorist and party Y is not..i hope i will recieve objective and convincing answers..

  • 25. lebanon | April 9th, 2007 at 11:26 pm

    i ‘v seen the link posted elsewere but it’s good it’s posted here..
    and poor marcel i thougt..his family name is ghanem not ghanam..
    the point is that the politicians are convinced that they have super understanding and ultra high comprehension of thgs while other people lack their potentials..
    the lovely thing is that the MP unintentionally gave a living proof of the clip on lbc “ne7na mnefham 3nnak”..

  • 26. N10452 | April 9th, 2007 at 11:27 pm

    lebanon,
    I guess i have to write two posts now , one on HA’s speech and another on terrorists ..
    I will do my best to write them 2morrow ..

  • 27. Get over it | April 9th, 2007 at 11:40 pm

    10452;

    Let me answer your question so there aren’t any hidden facts ;

    They did not vote on it because it may lead to an unknown destiny! They need to stop judging others by using the tribunal (7IJE) simple and easy , You are not going to achieve any of your goals by the name of the ma7kame .

    Syria is the killer ,they have been doing it for decades now ,but this time the Americans decided to pull the cover off of them! Also , America is involved in few assassinations toward our former and recent leaders i.e ; bashir jmayel, piere jmayel (their embassy was 10 mn away from the last crime!!). They have been responsible wether direct or indirect , dont you ever think that THE CIA dont know or dont give orders and green lights to both syria and israel to take ACTIONS. So why are they uncovering syria this time? What ’s really cooking there? Is it another deal for the price of iraq i.e; Help me in iraq , guard your borders and will take care of the tribunal for you? ALLAH 3LAM , saret min abel (kuwait) let’s leave it there…

    The US control the world ya chabeb , so let’s be aware and conscious regarding our value! 14TH OF MARCH dont take lebanon to the unknown as you did from before !
    I love life , i love lebanon.

  • 28. Get over it | April 10th, 2007 at 2:47 am

    3WNE ma7et ;
    100 thank you , im not surprised at it ,but im surprised 10452 is letting you slide with this one, I always say ; Lf think themselves better than others! Why ?!!!!! loyal?

  • 29. Mohammad | April 10th, 2007 at 11:05 am

    Get it over,

    You are telling me: Be optimistic! I want to be but HA is not leaving me even if I am staying at home! How do you want me to react when I heard Nasralla’s speech promising me that he will put the whole country 2 years in the fridge? We don’t want to kill any Lebanese but also we don’t want others to kill us. Paralyzing the country for 2 years is similar to killing 4 million Lebanese.
    Lets do a mathematical equation, do you know that HA has only 12 representatives in the parliament? 12 ONLY out of 128. In which democratic country, 12/128 have the right to wage wars/block streets/own thousand of weapons…. And in the end they want (Mosharakeh)!!! They are misunderstanding what the word (Mosharake) means. They understand it as VITO.
    What if all Christians agreed on 1 NAME to be elected President, and HA refused. What we will do? Is this (Musharakeh)?????? Forget my political point of view and forget yours for a second and answer me.
    I will give you another example: If we all entered into the government and for 1 reason or another, all Orthodox ministers resigned (2 out of 30) Do you classify this government as illegal????
    There is a problem in understanding democracy or what they call it “Demoqrateyet al tawafoq” I understand that we have to unify our decisions and try not to oblige anybody with any decision but I cannot understand the issue that every sect has VITO.

  • 30. Mohammad | April 10th, 2007 at 11:19 am

    3awne ma7et,

    I read what you wrote addressing N10452. Ana 7ebeb jewbak: La3yonak, kl ma 7addan b 14march ghallat, ra7 nbahedlo. But I have one question to you. Tell us about Nasralla speech. Is this what FPM is looking for? Are those your principles?
    Tell us if this is the way that should be used to build Lebanon.
    See ya

  • 31. Ra'fat | April 10th, 2007 at 8:00 pm

    Walla w ellak 3en, smallah el 8th of March ekhdeen Libnen 3ala el “known”…………..

  • 32. 3awne ma7et | April 10th, 2007 at 10:50 pm

    Mohammad,
    FPM had always been a independent party this was not GMA who spoked this was sayid nasrala he was speaking representing his own party not by the name of the opposition or tayyar. now n10452 let me ask you why did you erase my last comment about george 3edwen what was wrong about it i dare you to show me just one bad word or one disrespect to someone i was showing somthg real smthg that really happened with marcel ghanem in kalam el nass on LBC 1-03-2007 please make this clear for me and repost my comment that you’ve deleted peapol have to see this video and thank you peace!!

  • 33. N10452 | April 10th, 2007 at 11:52 pm

    ya 3awne you already posted the link once, i deleted it cause it was a repetition ..
    Check comment # 22 …

  • 34. lebanon | April 11th, 2007 at 10:22 am

    the 14ers say the 8ers are taking lebanon to the unknown ..the 8ers say the 14ers are taking lebanon to hell..if both don’t trust each other are we going to trust them..
    to avoid keeping lebanon in the fridge 2 years or even one day both sides shall reach to a compromise..the barrier is that each of them is hiding behind sandbags and shooting on the other..and the other retaliates the same way..they ‘ve got to stop pulling lebanon to their side..they shall pull themselves to lebanon

  • 35. Mohammad | April 11th, 2007 at 12:53 pm

    3awne ma7et,

    It is good that you didn’t take up with Nasralla speech which is a good sign. Since you said that he is representing his own party then I understand that there are a lot of things that you don’t agree with.
    Good move, carry on.

  • 36. lebanon | April 11th, 2007 at 2:10 pm

    as the issue of the tribunal was mentioned in some comments above i would like to insert a commnt regarding the tribunal though this is not the main topic in this thread..
    in the july war HA was accused of giving the israelis an excuse or a “zaree3a” to launch war on lebanon..so HA is always asked not to give the israelis excuses to strike and attack..
    apropos of the tribunal ,HA says -and the opposition in general- that the provisions which regard the founding and the procedures of the tribunal shall be discussed seriously and earnestly..by refusing discussions ,the supporters of initiating the tribunal on the spot and without sincere discussions , are acting the “hizballahian” way that they ‘ve always criticized and attacked(the way of giving the “enemy “excuses)..so why give them the excuse??discuss the provisions gravely and then let the tribunal be adopted and ratified..after discussions noone will have any excuses..
    ratification of the tribunal by external will will lead to more escalations ..and nothing but consensus among lebanese parties will bring things to a solution that pleases all parties..

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