Did Syria dump its allies ??
Posted by N10452I was quite surprised to read that Syria agreed on the Arab League plan to elect Michel Suleiman as the next president without any preliminary conditions. That was a slap in the face to Hezbollah and his allies ..
The proposal calls for the immediate election of General Suleiman,whose nomination as head of state is supported by both sides; the formation of a national unity government in which Suleiman would hold the balance of power through ministers close to him; and the adoption of a new electoral law.
Syria cant be lying to all Arab countries, it cannot afford to get isolated by the Arabs and the whole World … It wants Suleiman as president since it will keep her in Lebanon somehow, and it will allow her as well to keep its allies which cannot afford to turn their back on Syria, or i would say, do not have the guts to do so ..
From what i see, Hezbollah will chicken out and wont do any wrong move and simply accept the orders given to him ..
Iran will not jeopardize its relation with Syria cause of a 1/3 quota the Opposition is demanding, it cares less since HA is still armed and powerful ..
Who is the biggest loser here of course ? Michel Aoun ..
What a lousy alliance he made and what a crappy result he came out with .. this must go down as the biggest political failure ever seen in history if the Arab League scenario is applied ..
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1. ghassan K | January 8th, 2008 at 2:53 am
I don’t want to be over-optimistic. I rather wait until we got a President!!! Because M8 are not but liars and the agreement could be jeopardized at anytime. Syria could easily play a game and say: “we can’t pressure our allies. They don’t listen to us!”
2. Mikel | January 8th, 2008 at 3:26 am
I think they are being pressured to get Sleiman to Baabda just like they were pressured to leave in 2004.
3. Danny | January 8th, 2008 at 4:21 am
you are in dreamland…Never going to happen. Syria has said it backs the plan, however, it is a Lebanese matter…
Stop it now.Or..it will look ugly when you wake uo in afew days. Syria is a whore and will not allow things to move away from it…
4. Danny | January 8th, 2008 at 4:22 am
Oh… and the worst case of ahllucination N???Why? are you on the orangehead’s drugs??
5. livingsomewhere | January 8th, 2008 at 4:29 am
I wonder if Aoun had a better chance to get the seat if he was allied with M14? I wonder if M14 would’ve gave him that chance? But yet again would they give a seat to a person who is mentally sick?
6. Ali1559 | January 8th, 2008 at 5:54 am
The arabs should have stepped in b4 it got to this point. Proper political management is the only way we’re going to get out of this situation.
The main prb over the years is that no one in position has had any political management skills. And as usual , the lebanese citizen will suffer and the arab proposal will go down the drain… what a joke. Tfeh…
It’s all good , I guess this is the way the 14th of march wanna go. Kids need older ppl to take care of them at all the time.
7. Mourakib | January 8th, 2008 at 7:16 am
I do not think it is as simple as portrayed in the post; it is very likely that there are some other conditions hidden under the table such as M14 will not get the 1/3 of the cabinet or PM Seniora will not return to his post etc…
I am very skeptical when it comes to Syria and do not beleive that they give anythinh for free
8. fad14 | January 8th, 2008 at 7:23 am
A reply to the grown up ALI 1559:
Aoun is not the next president 1
Hizbulla don’t need him anymore 2
March 14 will get the new Prime minister 3
International Tribunal will proceed 4
The garbage will be moved back to Dahyeh from downtown 5
Saniora Served LLLLonger than his term 6
I can go on forever with this list of “failures” of Hizbulla-Aoun as all they promised their audience , DID NOT Happen.
The Gov stayed
The new president is not Aoun
Nahr el Bard’s red line was erased
March 8 lost and they are preparing some nice speeches to tell those in Downtown how they won by not meeting any objectives the same way they LIBERATED Shebaa and samir Quntar in July 2006.
9. Johnny.B | January 8th, 2008 at 8:12 am
Ali 1559,
same what FAD14 said
10. Delta | January 8th, 2008 at 8:18 am
Ali 1559
Same what Fad14 said
11. Ziad | January 8th, 2008 at 8:29 am
Definately the hidden deal is the tribunal.Syria got payed otherwise it wouldn’t budge.
12. paul | January 8th, 2008 at 9:53 am
Ali1559
same what Delta said
13. Michele | January 8th, 2008 at 10:16 am
Ali1559
same what Fad14, Johnny B, Delta and Paul said
14. roch | January 8th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Ali1559
same what Fad14, Johnny B, Delta and Paul and Michele said
15. Riemer Brouwer | January 8th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Or how about a good cop, bad cop scenario: Syria needs to look good in anticipation of the upcoming conference in Damascus, so they accept Suleiman…leaving the bad cop acting to Hezbollah.
Another option is of course that Syria knows more about Suleiman’s loyalties than March 14. Don’t forget he has made his career under Syrian tutelage.
Somehow, March 14 has made a drastic change from being cautious about Suleiman to blind support. And now, everybody seems to have forgotten about their initial reserves.
Could this have been the ploy of Syria all along? Namely, by first being against Suleiman they triggered March14 into supporting him, as per the logic of the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
16. Rodge | January 8th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Let’s wait and see what will happen in the next few days.
It could be any of the scenarios mentioned by ghassan K, Mikel, or Riemer Brouwer,
and i add that Syria could as always play a nasty game by trying to claim that the 8th of March people are not followers and they have their own opinions (bullshit of course), so it agree in Egypt and give opposite directions to its allies in Beirut.
Syria could also play the game of Michel Aoun, saying that this man is not an ally and has no relation with him (total bullshit also), while at the same time they ask him to put hurdles in front of Amr Moussa and the Arab initiative, and he already started this.
Finally, and just to tease Ali1559 (take it with good spirit my friend), I would like to join Johnny B, Delta, Paul and Michele in agreeing with Fad14 comment.
17. georges daher | January 8th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
hey ALI same as what the following people said earlier:
FAD14
JOHNNY.B
DELTA
PAUL
MICHELE
ROCH
NA3IMAN 3ALLOUSH…
18. Mohammad | January 8th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Syria may accept things in public and advice its small puppets (M8) to kill the solution or at least as for something very big and unbearable like what Aoun said yesterday:”The majority should not have even 50 + 1″ Meaning that not only he wants the majority to lose 2/3 but also 50% of the gov!!!!!!!!!!
Lets wait and see.
19. Rodge | January 8th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
I thank all the pro-Aoun people.
Why??? because after 3 days and 2 comments, in which i asked them to name at least one single real achievement of Aoun, no one have or could present any.
I know very well that i can wait 3 more CENTURIES or even 3 MILLENIUMS without receiving anything in this regard
So I thank all of them for proving my case.
20. philo | January 8th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
so N10452
plz correct me if im wrong,
if what your saying it’s true which i personally think it’s 200% true that mean that Syria and “M14″ have now the same objective they both want to get suleiman to the presidency as soon as possible.
isn’t hat weird??? that M14 and syria now have the same goal??? ” al bahrou wara2ana wel 3adou emamana…” walaw shabeib? are you compromising?
anyways if you really think that HA will break the alliance with FPM than it show’s how politically you are in touch.
and if your goal is to not see GMA in baabda!
my deep respects to the LF of sheikh Bashir
that turned from ” hemeyet el woujoud” to “el mohafaza 3al woujoud” to “get geagea out of prison” to “menkeyeh bel general”.
i totally agree with this post.
bess halkoun tefhamo ONE person in 90 fighted the syrian and all the world. and now it’s the same scenario, the only difference is that syria have no military troops here.
did you really believe that jomblat and harriri and geagea are the slogan of independence and peace and sovrenity???
3a kel hal mabrouk 3laykoun w 3layna BROTHERS
21. Toufic | January 8th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
I hope Syria will definitely leave Lebanon alone and will respect its independence,its sovereignty and will set up diplomatic relations by opening an Embassy in Lebanon.
I believe that all of you agre with me
22. Ziad | January 8th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Philo,
Typical Aouni twisted logic.Falej la t3alej !I don’t know why I am talking to you, the last Aouni friend I had I kicked out of my office on the eve of the “devine victory” speach by Hassan, when he came in to show me how great this speach was.
23. Danny | January 8th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Philo,
Do you have anything intelligent to say?
Stay objective and discuss issues. Please do not tell me who you fought!!We don’t care less…Tell us what you are doing now!!!
Have a great day
24. Delta | January 8th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool kilna dod il sabe :p
25. Vox P | January 8th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
“Syria agreed on the Arab League plan to elect Michel Suleiman as the next president ”
Syria??? The Arab league?? What the hell!! We have fallen so low that the above sentence is considered to be a good news. Am I the only one who thinks that this whole situation is absurd?
26. Tarek | January 8th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
I think the right think is to cut the crap and play the political game as all countries around the world: Election in 50% + 1. There is no country in the whole world that elects it’s president “bil tawafo2″. Shu hal maskhara. If we do this, no one can interfere in our business. About the government, it’s also clear in the institution and all institutions of the whole world: the government needs 50% approval from the parliament. If it can get it is legal, if not then it have to compromise. Why no one dares and takes the right steps!? because of the threat of screwing the country!? Shu 3inna mazir3a il wa7ad 7atta yakhod 7issa bil siyaseh bi haddid bil shaghab! shu hal nizam il siyasi hayda! March 14 should not care about these threats what ever the price was.
27. wassim | January 8th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
ya3ne 7abet kif 7akam dogher l estez N 3al nateyej men hala2 w eno ya ba hezeb ala be3na w ma ba3ref shou! N plz leave that post kermel ob2a zakrak fi ba3ed 1 week… bade shouf eza ba3d 1 week betghayer ra2yak w bte2tene3 akhiran eno mesh metel ma bada souriya btemshe l mou3arada…… wait and see
28. Delta | January 9th, 2008 at 1:55 am
Wassim does question marks mean anything to you ?
29. danny | January 9th, 2008 at 3:44 am
hey ALI same as what the following people said earlier:
FAD14
JOHNNY.B
DELTA
PAUL
MICHELE
ROCH
NA3IMAN 3ALLOUSH…
30. Ali1559 | January 9th, 2008 at 4:32 am
ladies and gentlemen,
Same what WASSIM said !
31. Ali1559 | January 9th, 2008 at 4:55 am
N,
The biggest losers are the 14th of march leaders and supporters . Take a look back at your political situation and you’ll figure what went wrong. You guys are FLIP-FLOPPING left and right without getting anywhere. Unfortunately,it appears the old saying applies here ( fool me once , shame on you. fool me twice , shame on me ) , you guys are being fooled around and forced to push GMS as your presidential candidate .GGGGGGGG, who ever thought the cedar revolution will do this ?!!! Oh , I guess your allince play you left and right . Could you imagine HA pushing SG for president? Nothing could be further from the truth khaweja N.
Finally, there is the ” lebanese first candidate”, the only candidate who can pull this country out of the mess it’s in- GENERAL MICHEAL AOUN. The strongest and the most popular .
32. Mikel | January 9th, 2008 at 5:41 am
lmao

im joining the group
wat they said
33. Ghassan hadad | January 9th, 2008 at 5:43 am
Ali 1559
chapeau on your 31, good looking out aloush.
N10452 , you have no room to reply. General sleiman is your hope now ???
34. Delta | January 9th, 2008 at 7:11 am
Ali it so funny every country has 10 candidates and then they elect one candidate : ” good u want aoun alright but i dont want him rayess lets go to vote chu ra2yak ????????????????????????
35. Delta | January 9th, 2008 at 7:14 am
aw aoun aw la ahad ? u aunist remind me of Rakel and antonio in the first doubing over latin movie ” anta aw la ahad” i was maybe 15 then so……… i don know man get an other candidate at least a human so we can try tp vote for him not an animal.
36. Michele | January 9th, 2008 at 7:16 am
Ali,
I was hoping that “el tekrar bi3alim el…..”
Obviously u learnt nothing from our posting above!
Again, quit what u r smoking and settle for better quality….
Nothing personal amigo!
37. Ali1559 | January 9th, 2008 at 7:30 am
Delta
Lets go delta. Walaw , we’ve been asking for it..
38. Ali1559 | January 9th, 2008 at 7:40 am
Ya 34
If you have something political to say I will be more than happy to answer you . So far, it seems like you have none to say but personal insults. Either you step it up to the level where you can hold a conversation with me or GO play with the rest of the bunnies…
Yalla Get out of my head now.. I dont need your insult , sekiltlik la2inik banout bass…
W iza ma 3jbik my comments fike ti7ke n10452 …
39. Ali1559 | January 9th, 2008 at 7:41 am
N 10452
Bring me some real LFERS khayeee….. Waynak ya tareQ ???
40. Michele | January 9th, 2008 at 7:58 am
Wow wow, Ali calm down!!!!!!!
Again nothing personal!!!!!
If you felt offended in any way then i apologize…
BTW, i don’t belong or support any political party, i only belong and support Lebanon!
41. N10452 | January 9th, 2008 at 9:25 am
I am quite surprised by the number of people who say i am supporting General SLeiman .. i suggest you re-read my earlier post about this incompetent which i still dont support ..
But Ali,
All you are doing is trying to turn it on M14 to justify your failure, Aoun’s failure mainly ..
Aoun’s decisions in the hands of Hezbollah & Syria and everytime they contradict with his, bidee3 ..
Only last week, Hassan Nasrallah sa7bak recorrected something Aoun had said wou jarrrasso wou hayde el bsen ma fata7 temmo ..
All Arabs and the whole world are behind M14 and Syria is keeping its presence in Lebanon and selling out her allies for some under the table deal ..
42. N10452 | January 9th, 2008 at 9:28 am
I am quite surprised by the number of people who say i am supporting General SLeiman .. i suggest you re-read my earlier post about this incompetent which i still dont support ..
43. N10452_ | January 9th, 2008 at 9:29 am
But Ali,
All you are doing is trying to turn it on M14 to justify your failure, Aoun’s failure mainly ..
Aoun’s decisions in the hands of Hezbollah & Syria and everytime they contradict with his, bidee3 ..
Only last week, Hassan Nasrallah sa7bak recorrected something Aoun had said wou jarrrasso wou hayde el bsen ma fata7 temmo ..
All Arabs and the whole world are behind M14 and Syria is keeping its presence in Lebanon and selling out her allies for some under the table deal ..
44. Johnny.B | January 9th, 2008 at 11:25 am
Ali 1559,
Same what DELTA said :P:P
45. THERESINIA | January 9th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
It is interesting to read how the ex-allies to AOUN: BCCN, and Elias ZOGHBI are openly accusing him of blocking the presidency for his OWN INTEREST (including his PRO-SYRIAN behaviour) !!!!
GONE with the wind all the past values of GMA …
“Le comité supérieur du Bureau central de coordination nationale (BCCN) a publié un communiqué stigmatisant vivement les récentes attaques du général Aoun contre le patriarche maronite. « Le BCCN condamne les attaques lancées contre cette autorité religieuse et nationale de la part de ceux qui ont perdu leur équilibre et qui tentent d’abolir les autres, souligne le communiqué. À travers les siècles, le patriarcat a toujours représenté un rempart national qui a constamment défendu la souveraineté, la dignité et la liberté, et qui a payé un prix élevé du fait de ses prises de position nationales. L’attitude du patriarcat contraste fortement avec celle du leadership temporaire qui a été fondé sur le slogan de la souveraineté et de l’édification de l’État, mais qui s’en est écarté. » Pour sa part, l’ancien responsable du département de l’information du CPL, Élias Zoghbi, a accusé le général Aoun d’exploiter les revendications chrétiennes « afin de servir ses intérêts personnels portant sur l’accession à la présidence de la République ». M. Zoghbi a d’autre part relevé que le général Aoun « n’est plus en mesure d’occulter ses liens avec le régime syrien », soulignant à ce propos que les dirigeants syriens ne tarissent pas d’éloges envers le chef du CPL.
46. LF Forever | January 9th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Akid,
Syria is acting and behind she will never dump! It is just a politic move…
Guys do not forget Seiman is Syrian and they are making us beleive that he is the 14 March candidate…
Allah yesa3d l mjadib.
47. Delta | January 9th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
Ali 1559
Same like jhonny b SAid :p
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