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• 1. Pierre | October 23rd, 2008 at 2:02 am

  I agree he is putting up obstacles left and right, he needs to be ignored and sidelined. LF needs to concetrate on its current Christian allies KAtaeb, NLP ect. They need to come up with a good electoral plan and lists that people can see as benefiting them.

• 2. Rima | October 23rd, 2008 at 4:18 am

  Mikel

  I agree with you. I despise le petit Frangieh more than any politician in lebanon.It was so painful to listen to him when he was a minister.I

  I am still so confused regarding the assassination of Tony Frangieh. In DSG’s recent interview with Al Jazeera, the talk show host asked him whether his apology includes Frangieh and karameh and he said yes… He did not deny his involvment in their assassination which I found awkward. Does anyone know or have reliable information on this matter?
  Thanks

• 3. Jean | October 23rd, 2008 at 5:50 am

  Bachir ordered Hakim to go send a message and not kill Frangieh… The syrians knew about it. They opened the door for the LF to go up to zgharta… When LF got their they found the whole family killed already by the Syrians… The point was to involve ouwet in the deal… Hakim got injured and never made it up there…
  (Story from one of the guys who were there)

• 4. Jim | October 23rd, 2008 at 6:22 am

  guys i know this is totally out of subject and some of them knows tht i read this post bt please a favor my friend she lives in australia and she is representing miss lebanon in miss international, she needs online voting and we r tryin 2 tell people to vote for her so please can u please vote on this website: Vote for Miss lebanon please http://www.geocities.jp/intlbeautypageant/vote.html

• 5. Jim | October 23rd, 2008 at 6:56 am

  N if u can put it as a post it will be much better cause she is comin 1st but there is competition
  and theres not much support from lebanon

• 6. Rima | October 23rd, 2008 at 7:36 am

  Jean

  I heard the same story long before but why Suleiman is still accusing Geagea? why DSG and LF don’t reveal the truth and insist on the Syrian criminality?

  Do yu think Suleiman and his followers still beleive that Geagea killed Tony Franghieh and family? Is he so dumb to be friend with the syrians: his family’s assassins? The reconciliation should start from that point…to prove the innocence of DSG and turn Suleiman and marada against Syria.

  The way the Syrians exterminated Franghieh and his family is so similar to Dany Sham3oun’s assassination…They think they can keep killing people and blaming it on LF and Geagea.So pathetic!!

• 7. Rodge | October 23rd, 2008 at 9:36 am

  Mickel,

  Very good post, and u’re right about everything you said about this scum bag, but Setrida answered him yesterday and asked if he really owns his decision.
  I think she’s right, the Syrians once again interfered and asked him to have this statement.

  Rima,
  you asked if Frangieh is so dumb to be friend with the syrians: his family’s assassins?? I think it is not a matter of being dumb or else, look at Walid Junblatt, he stayed an ally to the Syrians for more than 25 years after they kill his father, and his latest statements prove that he knew that from the beginning.
  So it is a matter of personal interests not more, and you can’t ask this filthy petit sleiman to be straight and think right, isn’t he the one who said that he’s willing to sell his children but not the Syrian line??
  Pitty

• 8. Michele | October 23rd, 2008 at 10:39 am

  “Marada Movement leader Suleiman Franjieh wants Lebanese Forces chief Samir Geagea to “admit to his crimes, apologize publicly, then quit politics” if he ever wants to achieve reconciliation.”

  Is this guy for REAL???!!!!

  Wouldn’t it be better if he quits politics n spends his time in what he does better, going on recreational trips to Syria n chase dumb TV speakers?

• 9. Fuziyad | October 23rd, 2008 at 11:12 am

  la2 guys ma tzidoua…it’s not the syrians who killed tony frangieh…tony frangieh wasn’t a quick assasination that could have been done by anyone, it happenned at the end of a fierce battle and the LF were fighting.

  However one should know that first of all the order was given by bashir and not by geagea(of course aoun and slimi won’t dare accusing bashir for popularity reasons), also the intent was not to kill tony but only to make kaffen to the marada, tony participated in the battle instead of protecting his family and what happenned happenned. Worth also mentionning that geagea was injured before they reached tony’s house and the rest of the operation was led by blood thursty HK (which wife, son, and associated idiots are slimi and aoun allies).

  Concerning Rachid Karamé, i was a bit suprised by setrida words yesterday, as far as I know it’s geagea who ordered his assasination and never was very ashamed of it…not very good but that WAS war…

• 10. Michele | October 23rd, 2008 at 11:37 am

  Fuziyad where do u get ur information from?
  I mean for Franjiyeh?

  As for Karamé, i also heard z same as u.
  Unfortunately, it was a LF militant who told me abt it.

• 11. Rodge | October 23rd, 2008 at 11:49 am

  Fuziyad & Michele,

  Sorry to disappoint you, but while the story of Franjieh told by Fuziyad is logic and can be true, the story of Rashid Karame in return is no where near the truth, since Karame has established some secret contacts with the LF shortly before he died, and his death was a prefect act executed by the Army intelligence back then.

• 12. Michele | October 23rd, 2008 at 11:54 am

  Well Rodge, i hope u r right although the person who told me abt it went into specific details abt it and the reason behind it which sounded legitimate in the time of war …

• 13. Fuziyad | October 23rd, 2008 at 11:58 am

  Most books on lebanese war are quite clear on ehden story these things can not be hidden…

  also for both frangiyeh and karame I’ve had confirmation from people who had high ranks in LF at the time

• 14. Rodge | October 23rd, 2008 at 12:24 pm

  Well I don’t know, maybe u’re both right, but the information I have (which are not 100% sure) say the contrary.
  Anyway, no one will know the truth in this file, as all the files in Lebanon.

• 15. Michele | October 23rd, 2008 at 12:28 pm

  Out of z subject: Fuziyad or anyone do u have a great tip abt how to get rid of a hangover?

• 16. readers | October 23rd, 2008 at 12:31 pm

  tout ce que vous dites n’a aucun sens.
  La justice est la seule reference capable de juger si Geagea est bien coupable ou pas.
  La justice avait deja delibere quand a sa culpabilite . S’il se sent lese a lui de demander la rouverture de son proces, sinon il sera toujours coupable.

• 17. Michele | October 23rd, 2008 at 12:41 pm

  Out of z subject (bis): Fuziyad or anyone do u have a great tip abt how to get rid of Readers?

• 18. paul | October 23rd, 2008 at 1:07 pm

  ana,ana :-)michele,you can get rid of somebody only if he exists.

• 19. Michele | October 23rd, 2008 at 1:11 pm

  Pauliiiiiiiiiiiiino!!!

  U never let me down

  Thx mate!

• 20. Fuziyad | October 23rd, 2008 at 1:13 pm

  to get rid of hangover, I think eating fat(mc donalds or even kebbé mechwiyé) and drinking a plenty of water and a beer or a smirnoff ice is the best cure…

  getting rid of readers is a more difficult thing because he will keep coming back without you deserving it(unlike hangover). However to get rid of him momentarily you just need to ask him a question he doesn’t know how to answer like: ET QUI A DIT QU’IL N’ETAIT PAS COUPABLE??? LA QUESTION N’EST PAS S’IL EST COUPABLE OU NON MAIS DE SAVOIR S’IL EST SEUL COUPABLE OU JUSTE UN BOUC EMISSAIRE??????

• 21. Michele | October 23rd, 2008 at 1:30 pm

  •Eating Fat (Chicken/avocado sandwich): Check
  •Drinking plenty of water: Check
  •Drinking beer or a Smirnoff ice: (will finish this PM z bottle of Smirnoff started yesterday): Check
  •Expecting Readers answering Fuziyad’s question: Check

  Thx Fuziyad

• 22. Rima | October 23rd, 2008 at 1:31 pm

  Paul

  If you don’t mind me asking you:
  what is your specialisation?

• 23. Rima | October 23rd, 2008 at 1:33 pm

  Michele

  I think eating banana is the best way to get rid of hangover…

  Banana is great for diet as well

• 24. Rima | October 23rd, 2008 at 1:35 pm

  Here is the link to banana
  http://www.healthdiaries.com/eatthis/do-bananas-cure-hangovers.html

• 25. Michele | October 23rd, 2008 at 1:44 pm

  Rima, u r AMAZING!!!!!!

  U succeeded in answering my both questions in one simple answer: Banana

  1) for my hangover: I’ll eat a banana
  2) for readers: i’ll stick a banana into readers’ …. (i’ll let u chose which hole will shut him up)

• 26. Rodge | October 23rd, 2008 at 1:51 pm

  Readers,

  Following your logic, the justice u’re talking about had many files against your friend the General including accusations filed against him in the Lebanese courts, and suddenly they disappeared before he came back to Lebanon, do you believe these cases were for real or just fabricated??

  It was a corrupted system under the Syrian influence and you know it, so how can you believe its rulings in some cases, while in others you don’t

• 27. Fuziyad | October 23rd, 2008 at 2:00 pm

  la2 Michele, I said smirnoff ICE(the limonada ya3né) not finishing the bottle of smirnoff…

• 28. Michele | October 23rd, 2008 at 2:04 pm

  But Fuziyad i don’t like mixing drinks ( Smirnoff and Lemonade). I have been always told that it’s not good mixing drinks in z same day

  Can i stick to my bottle? please please please!!!!!!

• 29. Rima | October 23rd, 2008 at 2:05 pm

  lol helweh hayde
  Michele: dawini bilatti hiya el da2ou

• 30. danny | October 23rd, 2008 at 2:14 pm

  Michelle,

  Try this from someone experienced…

  Beer and tomato Juice. Believe me it clears it up immediately…It is called a “red eye”…

  As for the little boy SF…The war machine of HA and Syria have decided that LF and DSG comments have ammounted to real apology and contrition. So, they try to launch a juvenile counterattack imposing “their own” shroot…LOL. How pathetic did the little scumbag sound?

  To an outsider it looks like they have been trapped..clAouny and their Teale counterpart seem to be in disarray. The pre conditions keep on escalating thus recealing those little Orange and green Thugs for what they are!

  DSG is on satellite TV almost weekly being accepted and interviewd as a head of State while the other losers are on …Manar!!!

  point made!

• 31. Michele | October 23rd, 2008 at 2:30 pm

  I wanna thank everyone here for their great tips n will start right now with the cure by drinking Smirnoff and beer so i could be able to drink tonight at my party!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  Have yall a great weekend n CHEEEEEEEERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

• 32. readers | October 23rd, 2008 at 5:01 pm

  Fusiyad,
  et s’il etait coupable, tu continurais a le suivre ?
  Il faut savoir que ses crimes etaient des crimes contre l’humanite

  Rodge,
  La justice est de votre cote maintenant, a lui de saisir l’occasion et de demander la reouverture de son proces
  Quand au General Aou il est passe en justice des son retour au pays (apres le retrait de l’armee Syrienne) et il a ete juge innocent. En plus il etait juge pour corruption non pour crimes contre l’humanite.

  Michele
  La banane est plus adapte pour toi, a toi de choisir le trou

• 33. paul | October 23rd, 2008 at 5:46 pm

  Rima, i work as technical illustrator for industrial plants…and volunteer with the Red Cross…wta22i2 7anak

• 34. Fuziyad | October 23rd, 2008 at 5:52 pm

  Readers, je ne suis pas Geagea pour commencer…ensuite crime contre l’humanité tu pousse quand meme un peu…et tu devrais savoir que le gros des atrocités commises par les FL l’ont été à l’époque de bashir et de hobeika a qui ton guru a toujours apporté son soutien…plus tard ton idole s’est embarqué dans des guerres aussi inutiles qu’atroces et a fait un bon paquet de morts parmi les civils.

  Aussi je te rappelles que les quelques hommes politiques chretiens qui n’ont pas participé à la guerre civile font partie du 14 mars et non de l’opposition…

  Et puis pourquoi t’aimes pas les bananes??

• 35. Rodge | October 23rd, 2008 at 6:19 pm

  readers,

  Quelle justice, il n’a passe aucune, il a pris son innocence sans aucune session.
  Et la corruption n’est pas un crime contr l’humanite, ton general a lance dea gurres sur tout le monde a cause de la corruption.
  ce que je veux dire qu’on ne peut pas prendre cette justice au serieux, car elle a fabrique et falcifie tous les documents.

  What we really need now is to move on, why you Aounies refuse to do so, why are u still stuck in the past?? and u only open the past of the LF and Geagea, 7ello 3announ.
  We have a future to build, while you are still looking to the past, and when someone talks about ur past, you just get angry.
  Let me tell you, and despite many talks some old Aounies say, ur past is no better than ur present, and of course ur future, cause Aoun is the main responsible for all this situation we are in right now.
  If you want a debate I’m ready, but maybe tomorrow afternoon cause i have to go now.

  Take care

• 36. Michele | October 23rd, 2008 at 9:51 pm

  Readers genial!!!!!

  Si c’est a moi de choisir le trou, je choisirai surement le trou de ton ‘biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip’!

  Enjoy it little guy

• 37. Fou2ad | October 24th, 2008 at 2:58 pm

  How Tony frangieh died(The LF point of view):

  First the syrians heard about geagea’s planned ‘visit’ to tony frangieh’s house, so they sent troops into zgharta, and non of those troops were detected by any of the hundreds of militiamen around fragieh’s house and on the streets(they had drank invisibility potions). Then after storming into frangieh’s house, the syrian troops opened fire with their rifles and machine guns and slaughtered the whole family, and all this while the marada outside couldn’t hear a single shot or scream because they were all hearing music with their discmans.
  After the massacre was carried out, the syrians exited the house and left the same way they came in.
  Then some moments later geagea and his friends popped by ehden for their planned social visit, and they killed a couple of hundred marada militiamen on the streets by mistake. Then they entered frangieh’s house and were shocked and horrified by what they saw.
  As geagea was expressing his feelings in his interview on al jazeera, he apolagized for what he did to frangieh, and by that he undoubtebly means that he feels that he is guilty for the massacre because he couldn’t reach their in time to save tony frangieh and his family from the syrians.

• 38. Maximus | October 24th, 2008 at 3:11 pm

  Why only naming Geagea in Ehden affair? Why never mentionning those who were geagea superiors like Bachir, Fadi Frem, Fouad Abou Nader, or those who participated with him like Elie Hobeika who was a syrian agent planted in the LF since the begining of the war: HK always trasnformed any military operation he was ordered to carry in a massacre (Ehden, Safra, Sabra…)…

  PS: Frangié is worrying about cleaning the LF from those who collaborated with Jamil Sayed!!!
  ولفت فرنجية الى أنه “سمعنا كلاما من سمير جعجع قال فيه ان كل من تعامل مع جميل السيد أزاحه من حزب القوات، فقد يكون أوقع نفسه في تناقض عندما ترك ستريدا بقربه”

• 39. Delta | October 25th, 2008 at 3:18 pm

  N

  there should be a post saying why the lf went to get frangiyeh and why all that happened if the lf dont clearr it we can clear it at least for Rima

  Readers ur an ignorant sun of a truck

  Rima : judi al beye3 was killed and before that 4 other kataeb were killed and before that frangiyeh the father left the lebanese front and went to the syrian arms and before that he was elected presedent by most of kataeb votes and he failed big time to fill his promises : after all that bachir sent geagea and 30 other men to kidnap frangiyeh and bring him to east bey on the way up there hakim was shot 3 time and had to be taken to hotel diuex in bey than to france before that hakim insisted that the operation happens on a monday not on a sunday so frangiyehs kids are not home and are with their grand parents (this is were frangiyehs kids lived from monday to friday because of school) so geagea tried to avoid a massacre that day the frangiyeh did not go to school, again the clash happened when hakim was not there and the frangiyeh dogs died ……

• 40. nathalie | October 25th, 2008 at 5:55 pm

  أتمنى على جميع أصحاب التعليقات أن يتذكروا جيداً ويراجعوا معلوماتهم بخصوص مجزرة اهدن، وخاصة أرشيف إذاعة مونتي كارلو:

  1- ذكرت إذاعة مونتي كارلو الخبر التالي ولم تكرره بعد ذلك: قرابة السادة صباحاً، توقفت سيارة سوداء اللون أمام القصر(إهدن ) ونرجل منها ثلاث رجال ودخلوا إلى القصر.. بعد قليل، سُمِعَ إطلاق رصاص.. خرج الرجال وصعدوا إلى السيارةفانطلقت بهم واختفت!

  2- لم يسأل احد عن ماهية هذه السيارة ومهمة من كان فيها!

  2- بعد قليل أعلِنَ عن وصول مقاتلين إلى اهدن واشتباك الأهالي معهم!

  3- لماذا تأخر وصول الجيش السوري إلى اهدن إلى قرابة الظهر؟

  4- أعلن لاحقاً أن سمير جعجع أصيبَ ونقل إلى بيروت..

  السؤال البديهي الذي راود جميع اللبنانيين آنذاك:

  لماذا سمحت القوات السورية للمقاتلين بتخطي حواجزها مع آلياتهم والوصول إلى إهدن؟
  وهل كان ذلك كله بتخطيط مسبق من المخابرات السوريةوهي وحدها التي كانت تعلم بوجود المغفور له طوني فرنجية في القصر تلك الليلة وهو عاد دون علم أحد من سوريا! ثم: ألم تكن لحملة التي أُطلقت باتجاه إهدن هي من أجل الوصول إلى قَتَلة جود البايع الكتائبي! والنتيجة: تدبير وتخطيط المخابرات السورية لضرب القوى المسيحيةببعضهافاستغلت
  نية الكتائب،وهي قطعاً على علم بتوقيتهافاستدرجت أحد أبرز القيادات المسيحيةللعودة إلى قصره ثم اغتالته وألصقت التهمة للقوات الكتائبية؟

  أتمنى على كافة المتسائلين التفكير بعقلانية وليس بعاطفةقبل إصدار الأحكام … ونحن على ثقة أن التاريخ سيكشف تماماً أسرار هذه القضية ونحن على ثقة أيضاً أن المغفور له الرئيس السابق سليمان فرنجية توصّل إلى هذا الاستنتاج لكنه لم يفصح عنه..

  C

• 41. Rima | October 26th, 2008 at 1:22 am

  Delta

  I join you in your request… N should have a post with reliable information on this thorny matter…I think LF media consultants(if such thing exist) should counterattack and keep focussing on Frangiyehs being traitors assassins and criminals…It sucks they accuse the man(DSG) even when he was shot and almost died…What a hypocrisy to yihettouwa bi daher Geagea and not Bashir who was the LF chief at that time as Maximu mentionned. I also agree with Maximum regarding the atrocities committed by that traitor Hobeika…

  Finally, among all confessions in Lebanon, Christians have the highest level of traitors and backstabbers: from Franghiyeh, Hobeika, even Aoun, El Murr, the kawmiyyeh…No wonder we are in such a mess…We are the worst when it comes to community spirit and we always have traitors and agents ready to destroy us for personal gain. Shame !!!!

• 42. N10452 | October 26th, 2008 at 10:41 am

  I believe i already posted about this issue .. i ll try to find the post and repost it .

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