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• 1. paul | December 22nd, 2009 at 11:06 am

  we still have a chance to get rid from this regime.

  Aoun should start a new ta7reer war with syria. before it’s too late.

• 2. hajj radwan | December 22nd, 2009 at 11:16 am

  Where is my head?

• 3. Infidel | December 22nd, 2009 at 11:16 am

  shaklak ktir ma2hour men syria……..as usual…syria wins…and it will always win…

• 4. paul | December 22nd, 2009 at 12:14 pm

  indeed Kezballah,there is no reason to dislike syria, unless u did not forget 30 years of discrimination

• 5. Rambo | December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm

  You forgot those who declared that they are in the same trench as Syria ….. They are the LF. You forgot Amine who said I was the first to support such visit.

  Bachir and Pierre (the father) are turning in their graves.

• 6. anonymous | December 22nd, 2009 at 2:07 pm

  does this proverb also apply to the warlords of the civil war

• 7. Son of Ehden | December 22nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm

  We can never have a good relationship with this Syrian regime. If the regime wants to start a new page with Lebanon then they can do so by releasing all the Lebanese prisoners in Syria. This act will only take one phone call and a bus.

  I feel sick to my stomach to hear all the politicians nowadays.

  What a shame!!!

• 8. THERESINIA | December 22nd, 2009 at 4:49 pm

  The primary objective of the visit of Hariri is to bring Syria closer to peace with Israel… which will imply distance from Iran and HA…will Syria dare to pursue??? If not…the americans and the French (Europe) are not going to protect Syria from…!!!!

  As for Lebanon, Syria will always be jealous and evil towards our country!!!!

• 9. Darwish | December 22nd, 2009 at 6:22 pm

  k, how many wars,conflicts and assasinations will it take for us to understand that we cannot avoid Syria and its sick desire to want to keep control of this tiny land of ours? You are right in stating that the regime in Damascus will never change, at least vis a vis Lebanon, but the awful reality is that we are a small country with limited resources and pretty much at the mercy of regional powers and their colliding interests. We must make peace with the syrians and pretend as much as we can that we are in tandem with their ego so that we may have peace internally. Assad the father before and now his son have already made it clear so many times that they are willing to burn and destroy Lebanon if it does not bend to their will! What choice do we have? Do we want to endure another war? We already have another neighbor to the south that will not hesitate to bomb us to smithereens, so why should we put ourselves in an uncomfortable situation and be screwed by two neighbors? At least the syrians will leave us in peace if we tow the line as far as they’re concerened. We cannot fight against regional political upheavals as they do impact us, all we can do is bid our time and hope that these regional issues will get resolved soon so that we may benedit from the greater peace that will follow. Ya3ni it is our neverending dilemna.

• 10. readers | December 22nd, 2009 at 7:04 pm

  Kezballah,
  Tu dis que le regime en Syrie n’a pas change depuis 40ans. Je ne suis pas d’accord. La Syrie n’est plus la meme depuis que Bachar est a la tete du pays. L’union europeen, l’Arabie Sauoudite, les pays du golf ont repris les relations diplomatiques avec la Syrie, peux tu le nier ? meme les Etats Unis vont envoyer sous peu leur nouvel embassadeur.
  Les anciens du regime ne sont plus la, ils sont soit morts soit eloignes.
  Cependant dis moi si je ne me trompe pas, vous les LF qui etes le fer de lance dans le mouvement du 14 mars, n’etes vous pas les meilleurs amis de Mr Khadam ? Depuis 4 ans je n’entends que des compliments a son encontre
  S’il te plait ecalaire ma lanterne, ce n’est pas le meme Geagea, qui a visite il y a de ca une douzaine d’annees la Syrie pour presenter ses condoleances aux President Hafez pour le deces de son fils Bassel ? Il a bien visite la Syrie pendant le vrai regime de dictature pendant que la Syrie occupait bien notre pays … n’est-ce pas Kezballah. Si je ne me trompe, il a bien meme tres bien serre la main de Hafez.
  Donc quand Geagea a visite la Syrie, le regime etait bon, la Syrie n’etait pas notre ennemie, mais quand le General Aoun viste la Syrie apres la sortie de l’armee d’occupation et apres le changement de regime vous le traitez de collabo… c’est le monde a l’evers dis donc…
  Je voudrai te dire que c’est uniquement chez vous que le regime ne change pas car dpeuis plus de 20ans vous suivez le meme meurtrier … Le meurtrier libanais qui a tue des libanais … le meurtrier soit disant chretien qui a massacre les chretiens et de la facon la plus sauvage.
  Je suis etonne comment notre patriarche accepte de mettre sa main dans la main d’un meurtrier juge pour les pires des meurtres … Oui notre patriarche se trompe et je le dis tout haut, il se trompe et il se trompe sinon et la c’est grave il est complice d’un meurtrier.
  Enfin je voudrai rappeller que c’etais vous les allies des Syriens qui ont bombarde Baabda en 1989
  Je voudrai rappeller que c’est bien le Patriarche qui a mis sa main dans la main des syriens pour deloger le General Aoun de Baabda.

• 11. kezballah | December 22nd, 2009 at 8:11 pm

  Darwish you are right in everything you said in theory, but I don’t know how we can live in this country if we let the Syrians have their way. Even if they don’t copy their police state on us like in the time of Lahoud, they will send us into war after war to fight Israel in their place. Not only Israel but this regime can not have peace and stability because how will they keep oppressing their people?

  The Assad regime is the enemy of freedom and they will not let anyone have peace not their people and not their neighbors, I am sure you know what a life they have in Syria, that is what really confuse me about some March 8 people, they enjoy freedom in USA and Europe but they are praying that Syria wins in Lebanon.

  I think there are many solutions not only one, sure one solution is to let Syria control our foreign policy and keep us a battlefield, but another solution is to make Lebanon a federation or divide it 7aj ned7ak 3ala ba3ed, let the pro-Syria people fight Israel as much as they like I don’t mind, but let the rest of us live in peace, I think Gigi Bassil will make a great commander for the Mouqawama in Maroun Al Ras and all I want is to be able to watch him fight while I have coffee in Jemayzi just like the average Syrian watch us get bombed while eating Baraze2 in Damascus since 35 years. I prefer this solution to our dilemma it shouldn’t bother anyone

• 12. kezballah | December 22nd, 2009 at 8:18 pm

  anonymous, yes the proverb applies to everyone including Geagea and Gemayel if that’s what you want to hear, but the Lebanese majboureen fiyon the good ones and the bad ones, bass ana shou Allah jaberni bi Bashar Hafez Al Assad from Qurda7a, why I should keep following this a*sshole shou mkhallafino wnasyino ne7na?

  Rambo I did not forget anyone I disagree with everyone who support this visit, but we should not forget who played the biggest part to get us back to zero, it is Aoun the freedom fighter this is why he is treated like royalty in Damascus, they don’t know how to thank him for all he has done!

• 13. kezballah | December 22nd, 2009 at 8:35 pm

  Infidel, are you being sarcastic now or were you talking in your sleep?

  khayye paul I have never met someone in real life who likes Syria, even in Da7ieh I have friends who support HA and they curse the Syrians all the time especially how they compete unfairly with them in business, of course they know I am LF/Kataeb supporter so they curse Syria more to make me happy

• 14. THERESINIA | December 22nd, 2009 at 11:26 pm

  It is almost 2 years that I write time after time that the Caporal is a Syrian agent…now you realize how much he is Khadim and the kind of services he gives them…

  Syria is still ruled by “barbarians” who have no idea what civilization means…Lebanese people – all Lebanese people – are completely different and much, MUCH more civilized than these retarded mongols…

• 15. Darwish | December 23rd, 2009 at 12:54 am

  unfortunately k, dividing Lebanon is not a good option since the country is so tiny that if one area is affected it will also eventually affect other areas in a short time as you know all too well! As I strongly believe, we simply cannot be immune from external influences and we all have to deal with that reality, so in principle, we need to make peace so that we can all live together, otherwise la7 nekella bel sermaye kilna.

• 16. Elie.F | December 23rd, 2009 at 12:54 am

  Theresinia,

  Are you still sure that the Caporal will fade away after one year?

  I was wondering what are the mistakes he did he do before and 14 M leaders are not doing now,

  1:visiting Syria?”done”,
  2:visiting Iran? “will be done”,
  3: supporting HA in the Bayen Wizari? “done loudly with 122 votes”

  And wondering what did M14 did before and in return he is doing now?

  1:visiting the Patriarch?”done”
  2:preparing an alliance with Jumblat?”will be done”
  3:visiting Saudi Arabia?”will be done with a great welcome”

  If all what we considered mistakes done by him made him lose 20% of the voters in 2009, and now in return M14 are doing the same things that we considered mistakes before,how much will this make them lose, and make him win? what can he do more to make him lose more?i think nothing.

  He humiliated the Patriarch,allied with HA,visited Syria and then Iran,helped keeping the country 6 months without a President and before 18 months the parliament closed, blocked the roads and burned tyres in an uncivilised manner, camping in Martyr square for 18 months,and sure not to forget excusing HA and defending them with the deaths of Martyr Samer Hanna….
  and still he took 50%.

  I think we should wait and see what will this new government achieve, people is fed up with pure politics,people need act, so lets hope we find something good in order to see some hope.

  Don’t tell me to look at the student elections,because just to remind you they were done before the Bayen Wizari and getting 122 votes, the only elections that hapened after was the one he won, ANTONINE Baabda which he won 9/2 and LAU beirut which he won 12/0.
  I don’t care who is considered winner in any elections because i need to feel that i am the winner in my country even if whoever won.

• 17. Doc1559 | December 23rd, 2009 at 1:02 am

  Martin Luther King Jr :

  The time is always right to do what is right !

  It is the right time to visit syria.
  It is the right time to start a new page.
  It is the right time to do right and put the past behind us.

  chu badkun ya bashar ??!! nefta7 7areb ma3 suriya ?? nefta7 jabha ???? 30 sineh wel soureh 3m yed7ak 3la akbar zalame fina.. khalas ba2 7aje tikizbu 3la 7alkun !! ka2nkun 3ychin 3la al moon !!

  You guys started to remind me of Napoleon, he fought till the end and lost it all, he rufused to accept reality.. les cent jours is very similar to the 2005 revolution of yours(read about it).. anyway Napoleon’s stubbornness, greed and ignorance lead to his final defeat at Waterloo ( your stubbornness, greed and lack of vision led to your defeat b4 and after ta2ef , b4 and after 2005)..After the war wasover,Napoleon spent the last six years of his life under the British supervision, just like a bird with no wings ( are you guys going to spend the rest of your life under the syrian supervision ? )

  Wake up ! Time for you to accept Syria.

• 18. Doc1559 | December 23rd, 2009 at 1:15 am

  darwish 14

  Kalemak dehab..

  ya theresinia khalas ba2.. ret–arded mongols w 7akamuna 30 yrs , ne7na lebanese chu sirna ?? reta-rded jo-kers maybe ??

  ana mish cheyif aoun fading away. sara7a cheyfu zalami ktir fihmen w 3ref al le3beh min bideyita..

  ba3den, why you have this bad habit of keeping yourself overwhelmed with emotion about Aoun ??

  souriez !

• 19. Michele | December 23rd, 2009 at 8:20 am

  Alloush n jaafar, kezballah asked u few days ago a very important question n u didn’t answer.
  It was abt if Israel withdraw from Lebanon n return all the prisoners would u ask the Lebanese to turn z page n have a great relation wz Israel?

  Knowing u, u won’t answer the question as usual!

• 20. Ziad | December 23rd, 2009 at 8:23 am

  Syria will never leave us alone.The best example is Rafic al Hariri. He gave them all what they wanted and more. The moment they sensed that his tendency for “independence” is on the rise they killed him. Falej la t3alej.We are back under the Syrian influence thanks to HA and Aoun.
  Good article Kezbella.

• 21. Doc1559 | December 23rd, 2009 at 9:53 am

  IT # 18

  Oh please gimme a break !!!!! What makes you think im reading all of your comments and propaganda ?? I don’t remember istez kezballah asking me anything, maybe he asked brother Ja3far , not me.

  To answer your above ;

  Israel has been a terrorist state from its very beginning. We simply can’t turn the page and move on without tackling the real issue here : the 450,000 Palestinian refugees !!! Walla its fine with you to have them here ???

  About 10% of the population of Lebanon are Palestinians who had fled Palestine in 1948 and never returned back, they are armed to their teeth and have no problem in waging a new war from Jouniyeh !! NAWWW, HA are bad !

  That’s the real issue, but simple minded people like yourself don’t see that as a threat. HA ARE BAD !

  *Can you fix the problem ? NO !
  *What are you doing about it? Nothing , in fact you’re supporting them without noticing it..

  Anyway,you keep talking about HA’s weapons while ignoring the 12 Palestinian armed camps all over Lebanon, have you been to 3yn al 7ilwe ya 7ilwe ? NO, HA ARE BAD !!

  Lastly, the 1969 Cairo Agreement between YOU and the PLO is another great reason why we should not drop our weapons !! chu 3mlo al flastiniye min ba3ed ma akhado green light ?? daba7ukun , eh ?? eh ne7na ma 7adan byedba7na

  Will continue to fight, will continue to resist !

• 22. Mike | December 23rd, 2009 at 10:00 am

  sorry to break it to you but israel and the US killed hariri. They used the syrians to cover it up.

  Michele, regardless of giving prisoners back or withdrawing or etc. I hope lebanon will never make peace or associate itself with a genocidal entity named israel. We need to send the palestinians back to their country. israel will soon die off or be over run followed by the collapse of global zionism.

• 23. Doc1559 | December 23rd, 2009 at 10:14 am

  Mike

  Thx for the backup budd !

  They killed Hariri, USA wanted Syria out of Lebanon so that Israel has a full control over HA.. The plan failed !

  Hariri was a big fish, darbit ma3lim, what surprised me the most was the reaction of the Sunni street right after the death of HARIRI !!!! They went from being pro Syrian supporters to anti Syrian supporters in less than 1 hour !! kiff ? eh kiff ??

• 24. avi | December 23rd, 2009 at 7:38 pm

  Doc and Mike why don’t you fight yourselves!!!!

• 25. kezballah | December 24th, 2009 at 9:39 am

  Cher readers, merci pour tes propos passionement exprimes, voici les points que je conteste:

  1. Non je ne peux pas nier que plusieurs gouvernements ont repris les relations diplomatique avec la Syrie, mais ce n’est pas parce que la Syrie a change, c’est en fait tout a fait le contraire, c’est parce que la Syrie s’est imposee comme interlocuteur indispensable au Liban a travers la pression (pour ne pas dire les assassinations) et la relation avec le Hezbollah. Pour les EU et UE, c’est de la politique pragmatique dont il s’agit ici et non pas de principe. Est-ce que ce regime a change envers son propre peuple tout d’abord pour pouvoir nous traiter differemment?

  2. A propos de la visite de Geagea en Syrie, c’etait a mon avis une erreur mais une erreur qui n’a rien coute au Liban, les seuls qui ont paye un prix a cause de cette erreur sont les LF et les familles des martyrs qui ne voulaient pas voir cette poignee de main. Aujourd’hui et dans une occasion pareille Geagea a refuse de presenter ses condoleances et il a meme affirme que rien ne peut etre dissocie des affaires politiques entre les deux pays, c’est parce que lui meme a realise que sa visite dans le temps etait une erreur, mais Geagea n’a pas fait de concessions ni strategique ni logistique ni rien du tout a travers cette visite. La visite de Monsieur Aoun par contre a aide enormement a briser l’isolement contre la Syrie et a leur pardonner leurs offenses gratuitement!

  3. Vous avez le droit de mepriser Geagea pour la violence dans son passe, mais ou en est il de la violence et des armes aujourd’hui? son discours est completement pour la legalite et l’armee tandis que monsieur Aoun soutient les armes d’une milice et incite a couper les routes, sans oublier les menaces stupides qu’il lance a tort et a travers, comment est-ce qu’on peut condamner le passe des uns et pas le present des autres? Comment pardonner un occupant qui continue a emprisonner nos co-citoyens et ne pas etendre la meme courtoisie a un Libanais qui a quand meme repris le bon chemin?

  Pour les autres points, je respecte tes sentiments la dessus mais je crains que les discuter relevera d’argumentation byzantine, dire que Khaddam est le meilleur ami des FL ou que le Patriarche a aide les Syriens a deloger Aoun, c’est faire des associations a 60 degrees de separation

  Enfin, j’accepte qu’on ne soit pas parfait aux yeux des autres, on ne l’est pas mais c’est pas la le probleme, le vrai probleme c’est que les autres (Aoun+Hezbollah et co) se croient vraiment etre parfait et avoir la superiorite morale sur tous les sujets et envers tout le monde, c’est pour ca qu’ils nous imposent leurs choix malgre nous et en depit/defi de tous les resultats des elections et autres. Mais plus loin de la moralite ils ne peuvent pas l’etre sur plusieurs des questions essentielles qui concernent notre pays et n’importe quel pays d’ailleurs. On ne peut pas faire de compromis sur la l’independance et la souverainte d’un pays, c’est la le vrai manque de moralite quel que soient les excuses.

  Joyeuses fetes

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