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• 1. Mickel | March 24th, 2009 at 3:16 am

  I’m pretty sure this is a Hamas job.

  PS
  It’s interesting to see –as always– that the people put out the fire, picked up the bodies and took the injured to the hospital, all before the fire department got there.

  wlek AAAAAAAKKKHHH menno hal balad.

• 2. Fuziyad | March 24th, 2009 at 12:02 pm

  That’s quite a big story, the guy was big fish and even worse the target of this assasination was abbas zaki…the guilty side is clear, it’s starts with a H…one wants to take over the palestinian camps and the other its good lebanese friend has interest in it and used its known professionalism for execution as on various previous assasinations in lebanon. Only slight doubt is if H & H did it with the agreement of their boss in damascus or rather to embarass the bassist in their negotations with israel…

• 3. kezballah | March 24th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

  It is strange that in Lebanon today you don’t feel there was a assassination on our soil, it appear to me it is life as usual and all I hear today is talk of the election only. Maybe like Mickel said we are so used to it that people don’t wait for the ambulance anymore they know what to do.

• 4. ordinary insen | March 24th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

  u know ppl….specially fuziyad, ur ignorance never fails to amaze me….every time a guy is killed, the killers name starts with an H….first of all be a man and say hizbollah…and who killed general el Hajj?? also those who start with an H? roo2 2e2ra seyese wfham el 2awda3 el 2iklemeye wsho 3am beseer bel USA ma3 obama wta3a ba3ed shi 15 sene 7awil 2e7ke seyese….el seyese bada rjel mesh 3alam bekhafo y2olo hizb alla

• 5. Rima | March 24th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

  Yeah now please tell me who is the real ennemy of the Palestinians?
  The exploitation of the Palestinian cause reached its apex and please don’t ever rant about the so called kadiyeh falastinyeh! IT IS ALL GONE..IT IS NOW ADDIYEH IRANIYEH!

  CHEERS

• 6. Fuziyad | March 24th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

  ordinary insen by it starts by H, I meant Hezbollah and also their dear friends Hamas, Hand in Hand for that case…who killed francois el hajj? am not sure but my best guess is HA…seems quite easy, they have the will to kill and the capacities to do so…just listen to mhammad raad speach on sunday threatening of another may7…the devil in this country is clear enough…

• 7. Rambo | March 24th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

  It is really funny when the new lf generation calls the PLO moderate ….

• 8. kezballah | March 24th, 2009 at 3:31 pm

  It is not me who is calling PLO moderate ya old LF generation, it is your new master Aoun who call him moderate, I only quote Aoun who say “it is a problem when moderates get assassinated”.

  Rambo in best case scenario is Ex- Noumour A7rar or Ex- Hobeika or Ex- Aoun, in worse case scenario he is a Aounie child who think he is smart pretending to be neutral, it will be fun to find out what form of intelligent life he is, but it seem to me it will be hard to find the intelligence in this life form

• 9. Elie.F | March 24th, 2009 at 7:09 pm

  Rambo
  It is funny when the Tayyar generation call the AWMIYEH and Wi2am Wahhab and Nasser Kandil and the most important Emile Lahoud as PATRIOTS.
  Alla yil3an shaklak w shaklon shoo hal baghl.

• 10. Rambo | March 24th, 2009 at 10:56 pm

  TO some idiots out there here is this statement:

  Your idiot as those aounist who are idiots in their own way when they ally with SSNP.

  Come and tell me I am a Aouni one more time.

  Bunch of idiots that are not worth one drop of our martyrs blood.

• 11. N10452 | March 25th, 2009 at 2:03 am

  Kezballah,
  I am sorry but i had to change the title
  There is no such thing as moderate PLO, there is no such thing as worthy talking about PLOs …

• 12. ordinary insen | March 25th, 2009 at 8:41 am

  hahahaha eh mazboot…HA will kill el hajj since he was against them in politics….but that is not the case….el hajj was killed because he was going to replace sleiman as ka2ed lal jeish…something m14 would never agree on….i told you go read some politics…tsa2af….fham sho 3am beseer 7awalek ya fus-ziyad

• 13. ordinary insen | March 25th, 2009 at 8:46 am

  u know wht…fus-ziyad…..ur the stupidist boy i’ve ever seen….ma la2eyt tetehem HA 2ella bel Hajj….do u really live in leb…do u really know whts happening….roo7 tom 7alak wle 2alla la y2eem balad ba3ed be2albo 3ala shekeltak….

• 14. Elie.F | March 25th, 2009 at 10:38 am

  Ordinery insen.

  so who do you think killed Martyr Francois Hajj ?
  Fuziyad points at Hizballa, and you say he is an ignorant person.
  Can you point at someone so we can all learn from you how things in Lebanon and the Middle east and the whole world are working?

• 15. Fuziyad | March 25th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

  uff ordinary insen da3stelak 3a danabak?? did you forget that hajj has not respected hassouna’s red lines? and anyway who else is inflitarted in army moukhabarat and has the capacity to do this?

  concerning being informed habibé, u may read an article in al akhbar every now and then but I know the stories from direct sources…in your case indeed the problem is ignorance…

• 16. ordinary insen | March 25th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

  elie…do u want me to guess?/?? yes he is ignorant…. ana manne be 2aya position to point fingers toward anyone and so fus-ziyad……..

  ama bekhsoos fus-ziyad…ya habibi el ossa mesh bel sources….el ossa bel political ignorance elle 2etletak atel….sho baddak bel sources…badak bel 2awal tname mokhak el siyese…hayde la 7ala btekhedlak mnee7 men wa2tak….iza ma 3andak daleel dont point out accusations just coz u think…specially u…thinking is a little out of ur league…khallik bel ghommeda iza shi

• 17. kezballah | March 25th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

  N wala yhemmak bro, the picture is worth one thousand words, so I wonder why Medhat have so good relation with HA and Aoun call him moderate and then they tell us Hariri want to use the Palestinians to attack Chi3a and Christians.

  No one from M8 answer this maybe because they are confused about it, 5 years ago on the TV 2al Jazira Aoun said the Palestinian Touwtin is a fizzay3a that the Syrian invent to scare the Christians and create hate with Sunnis. Now he says it is the biggest danger but he is best friends with PLO and Hamas, fhama iza fik…

• 18. ja3far | March 25th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

  K… read your own words :
  I wonder why Medhat have so good relation with HA and Aoun call him moderate and then they tell us Hariri want to use the Palestinians to attack Chi3a and Christians…

  you will get the answer to your question…

• 19. Fuziyad | March 25th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

  ordinary insen, can you one of these days write a political post so we can judge eza enta btefham? ana mastoul bass enta kif?

• 20. kezballah | March 25th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

  J you are giving hint that HA and Aoun make good relation with Medhat so they fail the Hariri plan. Which also mean you are giving hint that maybe Hariri get rid of Medhat because he is becoming too much friends with HA and Aoun.

  Ok this is interesting so let me say this is a possible explanation, but I have questions:

  If Hamas is your friend and PLO in the pocket then why keep saying that Palestinians are the big danger to Chi3a and Christians? And why Chaker Absi was a red line? Also what you offer the PLO more than Hariri and Saudia Arabia who is their natural friend?

• 21. ja3far | March 25th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

  K… have you heard the speach of Nassrollah ? he never said said Chaker al absi is a red line. in the contrary… but lot of people enjoy twisting the truth..any way below is the part of nassrollah speach were he talked about naher al bared:
  موضوع مخيم نهر البارد: المدنيون الفلسطينيون الذين لا علاقة لهم في الإشكال بمعزل عن تقييمنا لمجموعة فتح الإسلام. بقية الفلسطينيين من فصائل ومن مدنيين في مخيم نهر البارد والمخيم كمخيم هذا يجب أن يكون من الثوابت وخطاً أحمر. ولو افترضنا أن أجهزة الدولة تشن حملة على الإرهاب هذا لا يجب أن يؤدي إلى قتل الناس في الشارع. وتحدثت وسائل الإعلام عن مثل هذا القتل في طرابلس، والتحقيق يبين ذلك. إذا كنتم تعملون كدولة يجب أن تتصرفوا على أساس أنكم دولة. هناك مذكرة توقيف واعتقال ومراعاة عملية التوقيف ويجب أن يكون هناك محاكمة. يجب أن لا تكون الحرب على الإرهاب بالطريقة البوشية “نسبة إلى بوش” الأميركية أي يصبح هنا رجل الأمن هو المدعي العام والقاضي والشاهد والمحامي والجلاد. هذا خطر ويهدد الأمن والسلم في لبنان. يجب أخذ الوقت الكافي في موضوع معالجة ما حصل في المخيم. سمعنا في اليومين الماضيين عن اقتحام للمخيم. كيف يتم اقتحام المخيم وهناك 35 ألف نسمة ويوجد الكثيرون لا علاقة لهم بالمشكلة.
  إذا كنا نريد أن نعتقل مجموعة من المسلحين نقوم بالهجوم على 35 ألف نسمة؟ المخيم من الناحية الإنسانية والقانونية هو مثل أي بلدة لبنانية. وإذا كان يوجد في بلدة لبنانية مجموعة مسلحة وأردنا اعتقالها هل نشن هجوماً على هذه البلدة ونعيث بها وندمرها ونقتل من ليس له علاقة. هؤلاء يعيشون أحلاماً ومشاريع قديمة جاء من يريد إحياءها من جديد هذا شيء خطير جداً ويستدعي الكثير من الذكريات الأليمة والقاسية والصعبة.
  أقول بكل وضوح: الجيش خط أحمر ولا يجوز المس به ومن قتل ضباط وعناصر الجيش يجب أن يحاكم ويتوفر له محاكمة عادلة ولا يجب أن يتسامح معه. لكن بنفس الوقت المخيم خط أحمر. لا يمكن أن نقبل أو نغطي ولا يمكن أن نكون شركاء في تغطية حرب مخيمات لا نعرف أين توصلنا. وفي النهاية الحرب حرب من؟ لا نقاش في محاسبة من اعتدى وقتل. ولا أحد يقول إننا لا نريد أن نحاسب. لا أحد يأخذنا إلى مشاريع مشبوهة يمكن أن تفجر الوضع في لبنان ويمكن أن يحصل صراع لبناني – فلسطيني.
  على من يتخذ قرار الدخول إلى المخيم أن يتحمل المسؤولية وأنا أعتبر أن أي قرار بالدخول إلى مخيم نهر البارد هو تضحية بالجيش اللبناني وبالشعب الفلسطيني وبلبنان وهذا ليس دفاعاً عن مجموعة فتح الإسلام. هناك من هو موجود في السلطة وأجروا اتصالات مع فتح الإسلام وهناك من قدم لهم المال وقدم لهم تسهيلات. نحن لا نعرفهم ولم نجر معهم أي اتصال ولا يعرفوننا ولا علاقة بيننا وبينهم. وبمعزل عن موقفهم منا وموقفنا منهم، أنا لا أريد أن أدخل في هذا الصراع ولا أريد أن أكون جزءاً من هذا الصراع، لكن الدخول إلى المخيم هذا الجيش اللبناني ضباطه وجنوده لا يتصرف أحد وكأنه (مخلفهم وناسيهم) هذه البقية الباقية في لبنان. القرار السياسي والمعالجة يجب أن تكون سياسية وأمنية وقضائية تحفظ الجيش وهيبة الجيش وموقعية الجيش ودوره ولا تؤدي إلى حرب مخيمات جديدة من هذا النوع.
  days showed who died and who have been used …

• 22. kezballah | March 25th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

  J : OK you try to answer one of my questions, thank you for trying because no one else who support M8 give a answer.

  About Nasralla speech this is my honest opinion, it has many problems:

  1.. It was proved wrong, the operation ended the terrorist group and there is no new conflict with Palestinian and Lebanese. We lose soldiers but the army do its job and save the country from the killers. In 1969 and 1973 there are many speeches like Nasralla and they stop the army from controlling the camps, so we end with 15 years wars.

  2… Nasralla say there is some bad people and 35,000 innocent so you can’t attack the whole town, but in May 7 he did the same thing and he is not the legal army. If he really don’t want to attack Palestinian guests in our country then why he don’t hesitate to attack Lebanese who are not guests in Beirut. This is a problem with his speech.

• 23. Fuziyad | March 25th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

  ja3far, what do you think about that growing movement in palestinian camps called ansar allah who clearly define themselves as allies of HA and receive a lot of hallal Iranian money?

• 24. ja3far | March 25th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

  k… we were discussing the relation with the palestinians. the speech was made to win the hearts of those who were supposed to be the front line against ha and it was clear that he succeeded.
  I will not go into 7 may now but it seems we will be hearing about the 4 officers in a month

• 25. ja3far | March 25th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

  fuziad…am not very aware of this group. but am really interested to know the opinion of your resources regarding all this flirting between jumblat and berri

• 26. Fuziyad | March 25th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

  ja3far, jumblatt will announce he’s out of march14 on june8, and declare himself wasaté…not a big loss…

• 27. mo | March 26th, 2009 at 11:18 am

  i noticed some ppl accusing hamas of this ..

  first of all its not part of hamas modus operandi to carry out any operations outside of palestine borders .. against israelis or otherwise .. as far as i know it’s never happened before .. also i never heard of this kamal midhat dude but from what i read about him since his death it seems he was more on hamas side as he was opposed to oslo .. so even if my first point about hamas not carrying out operations outside of palestine was false .. we still have to question what motive would hamas have to kill this guy considering he was on their side kind of .. and even if he wasn’t .. how would killing him benefit hamas exactly ..

  i read on the otv newsbar that dahlan had entered beirut 2 days prior to the assassination .. i dont even know if thats actually true .. and even if it is .. it could be a coincidence .. although that guy is bad news imho ..

  i dont know who did it but i seriously doubt it was hamas ..

• 28. Fuziyad | March 26th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

  Mo ever heard of the gaza coup?

  and u are wrong medhat was a pure fathawi, right hand of abbas zaki, his enemies were those who do not want fatah to represent the palestinians of lebanon, and those are well known…

• 29. kezballah | March 26th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

  Fuziyad I also can’t say Hamas is innocent but I like Mo’s analysis, he use facts and make interesting points, for example Hamas don’t operate a lot outside Gaza (it is true as I know) and Medhat is against Oslo (I didn’t know it so I can’t confirm true or wrong but it is interesting).

  But I also use the same logic of Mo for the accusation on Hariri, this operation need a lot of military coordination, Hariri don’t have it (we see the confirmation in May 7), so if he want to kill Medhat for some reason who he will ask, the PLO??? it don’t make sense to me to say that Hariri kill Medhat because he make good relations with HA, Joumblat now want good relations it don’t mean Hariri will kill him, Hariri also want good relations.

  So who killed him??? I think we have to ask the smart people on the blog (extraordinary humans) maybe they will say Geagea

• 30. ja3far | March 26th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

  K… there is lot of small palestinians groups for sale.. who want the palestinians to get out of control?

• 31. Fuziyad | March 26th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

  Kezb, it’s true that up to now hamas wasn’t acting a lot in lebanon but things changed after the last war on gaza, Mr Hamdane is now a VIP while he was always silent, also at one of this nice damascus gatherings the so self proclaimed moumana3a gangs, it was announced that the command of Palestinians out of palestine had to be changed, here we go…

  plse find below a very nice article by ja3far ex comrade giving a good analysis of this event, of course he can’t afford to throw accusations the way I am but one can read between the lines

  —————————————-

  Ziad Majed , March 26, 2009

  There are three political aspects linked to the assassination of Major General Kamal Medhat Monday afternoon in the Saida suburbs.

  The first is tied to the person who was targeted and what he represents. The departed was the number-two representative of the Palestinian Liberation Organization in Lebanon and a Fatah official who has been playing an increasingly important role with regard to reorganizing the Fatah Movement in the camps after a period of decline. Medhat also took part in managing the Palestinian diaspora based on the PLO’s historic slogan, “Autonomy of the national decision,” which rejects the exploitation of the Palestinian cause by oppressive and overbidding regimes.

  The second is related to the timing of the assassination. In Lebanon, a number of foreign and domestic events are scheduled, most notably the Special Tribunal, intra-Arab dialogues and potential US “rejectionist” talks, in addition to parliamentary elections resulting in a popular and political majority that will deal with these events and their repercussions. On the Palestinian level, Cairo is heading ongoing attempts to reach an agreement between Fatah and Hamas, knowing that the call made from Damascus to have the PLO replaced by a new “Palestinian” referential entity is all but stumbling.

  Moreover, the assassination came just as the meeting of Arab Interior Ministers was concluding in Beirut, thus sending a message that security in Lebanon is still shaky and cannot be stabilized without an agreement sponsored by another Arab capital.

  The third element, regardless of timing, is linked to the Palestinian situation in Lebanon. Here, we must look at the intricacies of this situation, which has been exacerbated since the late 1980s by the Syrian Intelligence’s efforts and prejudiced Lebanese laws that deny Palestinians the right to work, move freely, or improve their homes, in addition to Palestinian political decline, organizational chaos and the spread of weapons. All these problems demand tremendous efforts to be addressed and fixed.

  This drives us to remind that the Lebanese people have a duty to themselves and the Palestinians living among them to work seriously toward addressing the Palestinian situation in Lebanon, which – in turn – calls for addressing three issues:

   Disarming Palestinians outside the camps and dismantling useless armed groups that have nothing to do with camp residents in the first place.

   Granting Palestinians full civil rights, including their right to legal residency, instead of leaving them to drown in terrible living conditions and chaos, albeit without granting them Lebanese citizenship, knowing that this is a cause for concern for many Lebanese and threatens to undermine negotiations regarding the right to return.

   Regulating arms inside the camps in cooperation with PLO representatives as a gateway to surrendering the weapons progressively to the Lebanese authorities, who are responsible for protecting residents of Lebanon from any threat.

  Continuing to ignore the “Palestinian question” in Lebanon will only increase the risk of it blowing up and being used for regional calculations, such as we saw two years ago in the Nahr al-Bared camp, in the series of incidents in Saida’s camps in recent months, or in yesterday’s dangerous assassination. This may lead to a potential deterioration and exploitation of the situation, the price of which will not only be paid by the Palestinians and their cause, but also by the Lebanese, their independence and stability.

• 32. kezballah | March 26th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

  J, these theory are hard to swallow because:

  1.. Hariri support destroying Fate7 Islam so he don’t want chaos in the camp

  2.. Hariri has great relation with PLO so why he will undermine them with other small group?

  3.. Say PLO refuse to play a dirty game for Hariri, why he will use a small group to punish them, it is easier to use the small group to do the dirty game, why waste time to punish them??

  The only political talk I am hearing about connection to Lebanon is that this killing is a message to stop agreement between all groups, for me it is not a need from any Lebanese side (they all ask for a minimum agreement in Qatar), it is a need maybe from Israel/USA or maybe from Syria/Iran, one of them or both of them are tired of this peace since Doha.

• 33. kezballah | March 26th, 2009 at 4:05 pm

  Thanks F, I will read it

• 34. ja3far | March 26th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

  K… i havent accused harriri of killing him.. harriri is too small… i was trying to look at the bigger picture… there are major players including arab countries that can be involved in such issues

• 35. ja3far | March 26th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

  Fuziad… an advice for u and u can pass to majed :
  stop betting on the loosing horse and open the other eye…

• 36. Fuziyad | March 26th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

  wosel ja3far, bass men min b2ello??

• 37. ja3far | March 26th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

  an old friend …
  it seems haifa may be nominated from tyr.. she may make a brake through in the shia list… i would have voted for her if i vote in tyr …

• 38. Fuziyad | March 27th, 2009 at 12:09 am

  Elections in the south seem more interesting than expected, just wondering which news between haifa nomination or the fight between berri and aoun is more fun…

• 39. mo | March 27th, 2009 at 1:24 am

  f .. the gaza coup?? never heard of it o_0

  ^ sarcasm

  now if you insist that hamas did it so be it .. but ok i will play along .. hamas did it .. however .. if an organization as marginal and weak as hamas can carry out such acts in lebanon then allow me to tell you your country is way beyond lost ..

• 40. mo | March 27th, 2009 at 1:26 am

  according to asad abu khalil’s blog, midhat’s widow is accusing fateh ..

  http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2009/03/assassination-in-lebanon.html

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