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• 1. Ra'fat | July 9th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

  Simple answer to that, it is called a strategic defense strategy when you let an ally use your land for military purposes. It is called an occupation when an enemy state usurps a piece of your land. Syria falls under the first one, Israel falls under the second one. Just wanted to beat all the syria lovers to their answer….

• 2. 13october1990 | July 9th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

  So Israel is an alley to Syria since it’s using the Golan Heights for strategic military purposes, and Syria has never shot a fire cracker against them.

• 3. danny | July 9th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

  ….and since Syria is an ally who have been behind tens of assasinations and most likely the murder of hariri and others…
  …and since Syria is “an ally uses you land for military purposes”…That is defending it’s land against Israel from Lebanon ?OR arming the Palestinian thugs to wreak havok in Lebanon…

  Yup Syria is an “ally”…of Terror and mass destruction!

• 4. Ra'fat | July 9th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

  The nature of the occupation is defined by the nature of the occupier. We do not consider Syria as an ally but sadly 45% of the Lebanese do, they destroyed and killed us but they elevated a lot of other people.

• 5. ELIE.F | July 9th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

  Inta ma tfakkir, Ni7na minfakkir 3annak

• 6. walter peers | July 9th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

  The real enemy is people that think like you.

• 7. Delta | July 10th, 2009 at 1:14 am

  I am not going to comment untill i hear Jaafars and Doc’s comment

• 8. Doc1559 | July 10th, 2009 at 3:08 am

  Q,Who is the real enemy?

  A, The Lebanese people are the # enemy of Lebanon !!

• 9. Doc1559 | July 10th, 2009 at 5:50 am

  You may ask me why is that ya doc ?

  A, It is because they don’t know who the enemy is( this post is the perfect example) B, each group define the enemy as anyone who is agaisnt their interests.. i3ref 3duwak al sureh 3duwak lol..

  Wad7a mitel 3yn al chamess

• 10. 13october1990 | July 10th, 2009 at 9:23 am

  Dear Doc,

  Think before you write.
  It was not a question to justify that Israel is a friendly state, it was to show that Syria is not the friendly state our beloved, honest & GOD fearing politicians portray it to be.

  Why do you all run and defend Syria? They are clearly occupying Lebanese land, they are not willing to submit a report regarding Shibaa and Kafarshouba farms.

  Isn’t Syria in direct negotiations with Israel? Shouldn’t that make them our mortal enemy as well?

  I agree that Lebanese are the number one enemy of Lebanon, but for a different reason. They always elect the same idiots.

  The only true thing you said “each group define the enemy as anyone who is agaisnt (against) their interests”

  Is this why you defend Syria? because they are of interest to HA.

• 11. Doc1559 | July 11th, 2009 at 10:30 am

  13oct

  buddy,

  A,Legally speaking and according to the taif agreement (all Lebanese factions and parties agree on the taif agreement), Lebanon and all its governmental institution, with support from the whole world, called for friendly relationships with syria and considered it ” al chakika state”, even samir geagea the pro left wing extremist visited syria after taif . So legally and logically speaking , syria is not an enemy regardless of what some minorities have to say (ouwet maybe ?). Ultimately, it will be up to al aktariye or al aktariye and mu3rada combined together to right this wrong ( if you consider taif wrong)with a new law where you can label syria as an enemy state, that is neither patriotic nor honorobale. Lets be clear, syria is backed by at least 50% of the Lebanese people, Israel isnt, I’ll say 5 to 10% of the Lebanese people( conservative left wing zionist christians , read about them :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism) don’t mind Israel but the majority do consider Isreal our # 1 enemy and the new oppressor in the region.

  B, you say : Isn’t Syria in direct negotiations with Israel? Shouldn’t that make them our mortal enemy as well?

  Answer : So is the whole arab world from the atlantic ocean in the west to the Arabian Sea in the east..alot of them signed peace agreement and work 2gether on the daily basis, should we consider them all our mortal enemy ? Of course not. Syria is free to make its own decision while negotiating peace or war with Israel, we lebanese dont! We’re not growing up yet, we’re not adults, we’re not who we think we are .. we still need their help (syria/west/iran/ksa/usa) hahaha, ma 3m na3ref na2lif 7ukumeh balehun..

  C,Geographically speaking, we’re out of luck my friend bcz Syria is our only gate to the world.The world today has no geographic boundaries when it comes to business,but it is the same old same old when it comes to politics.Therefore, we have no other choice but to build good relationships with syria. just look at the mapppp ya sa7be…

  D, you say : Is this why you defend Syria? because they are of interest to HA.

  Answer : Where did I defend syria ? I am only stating political facts and geographice measures. As for HA, yes I do !! What a shame but this is Lebanon. Welcome to reality, this is why we ( the lebanese people) are the enemy of lebanon.

  thx for reading..

• 12. Doc1559 | July 11th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

  ** geagea the pro right wing extremist on # 11..

• 13. Reader27 | July 11th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

  Doc

  You always use your unique logig to justify anything,you and ja3far are pros at it. An average hizeb or aouni would have responded by attacking the LF and Israel,but you guys know how to go round and round.. michel aoun malika la hek 7arakette.

• 14. 13october1990 | July 12th, 2009 at 1:20 am

  Doc,
  I just want to answer you briefly, our politicians are hypocrites and so are our political parties.

  I just want to give you a small example, the GAD ELMALEH incident. Al Manar made such a fuss out of it, while on the other hand they do not make such a big fuss about the international companies that support Israel ie: Starbucks. I was one buying a coffee from Starbucks NYC and they had a box to support Israeli soldiers. Just look around your house (you as a pro HA supporter) and see how many items are produced by Jewish companies. These companies help Israel’s economy. What I’m trying to say is that if HA want’s to consider Israel a really enemy then do it all the way. Why be selective?

  As for Syria, it did Lebanon as much harm as Israel. So why do we have to be allies? Why until now they keep occupying the 450 KM2 and they haven’t submitted the proper documents to the UN regarding Shibaa and Kafarshouba farms, why haven’t they freed or given any details regarding the Lebanese detainees in their prisons?

  Again you accused me of not knowing who my enemy is. I will assume it was a lack of judgment from your end. I consider Israel my enemy as much as i consider any foreign country or Lebanese that work towards the destabilization of Lebanon an enemy.

  If you consider Geagea a Christian Zionist then what do you call Hassan Nassrallah? If you remember that in previous posts we had a talk regarding HA and their doctrine, and you tried to convince me that they changed. So why do you strongly believe that HA changed and the LF did not? Be fair and give both parties a chance to prove their true intentions.

  Kuwait, Jordan, Qatar and Egypt have good relations with Israel. Saudi and Iraq have good relations under the table. Syria is negotiating with Israel, why do we always have to be the scapegoat of the Middle East?

• 15. Reader27 | July 12th, 2009 at 3:39 am

  13october1990

  fyi : doc stays in usa. so you know..

• 16. Doc1559 | July 14th, 2009 at 7:55 am

  13oct

  Hello,

  I don’t usually take writting on this blog seriously, but my opinion toward what you have said has to be a briefly explained so no miscommunication is taking place between the two of us.

  First of all, you say : Again you accused me of not knowing who my enemy is. I will assume it was a lack of judgment from your end. I consider Israel my enemy as much as i consider any foreign country or Lebanese that work towards the destabilization of Lebanon an enemy.

  Answer : I honestly did. I thought you are one of those Lebanese forces guys who simply support the Israeli wars to ignite terror and destroy all of us who dare to resist or even speak up and defend their right ( I can name so many of them here). Since you are not one of these right wing fanatic terrorists,and since you label Israel as an enemy, I am asking you to forgive me for my wrong call.. mari2leh yeha ya3ne..

  Second, you say : I just want to give you a small example, the GAD ELMALEH incident. Al Manar made such a fuss out of it, while on the other hand they do not make such a big fuss about the international companies that support Israel ie: Starbucks. I was one buying a coffee from Starbucks NYC and they had a box to support Israeli soldiers. Just look around your house (you as a pro HA supporter) and see how many items are produced by Jewish companies. These companies help Israel’s economy. What I’m trying to say is that if HA want’s to consider Israel a really enemy then do it all the way. Why be selective?

  Answer: You can find the answer for this one in my 13, this is what I said : The world today has no geographic boundaries when it comes to business,but it is the same old same old when it comes to politics.. In fact, HA and the whole Muslim world tried to apply what you’re calling for (ex boycotting Israeli product) but the idea was executed because of so many reasons and factors. Here is the web site : http://home.pacbell.net/halnet/Boycott%20Israeli%20Products%20Campaign.htm

  HA tried their best but they can only do so much, especially in a country like Lebanon. HA pressure was powerfull enough to drive alot of people away from all western israeli backed products, but individually(people like me) and nationally(people like you) HA was powerless to take serious actions toward this complex matter. Ha can only try and wish for the best, nothing else. They did with gad al male7 and got their way i believe. I don’t have al mannar here in MI and don’t know much about it anyway..

  You say : As for Syria, it did Lebanon as much harm as Israel. So why do we have to be allies? Why until now they keep occupying the 450 KM2 and they haven’t submitted the proper documents to the UN regarding Shibaa and Kafarshouba farms, why haven’t they freed or given any details regarding the Lebanese detainees in their prisons

  Answer : The first and foremost duty of a government is to protect its citizens and point out who the enemy is. The Leb gov answer to that is to have a close and friendly relationships with syria. Why ? I don’t know ! Maybe you should ask your elected MPs to do that, you should also ask them about the 450 km2 and the detainees there. I am not the syrian gov nor the syrian rep on this blog to answer this question for you. It is the duty of the gov to ask for its people and occupied land. But again and as you said : our politicians are hypocrites and so are our political parties. I don’t know what to tell you my friend !! The detainees file has been under negotiation and some prisoners were freed few weeks ago,at the same time don’t expect syria to give you back those who fought against its army and butchered its allies by the name of Christian resistance or HA mukawama. Those Fighters(massi7iye w isslem) were tried in private courtrooms and executed latter on. Sad but true..

  You say : If you consider Geagea a Christian Zionist then what do you call Hassan Nassrallah? If you remember that in previous posts we had a talk regarding HA and their doctrine, and you tried to convince me that they changed. So why do you strongly believe that HA changed and the LF did not? Be fair and give both parties a chance to prove their true intentions

  Answer : Nassralah is a Lebanese revolutionist who is fighting a decolonization battle against the new colonialists in the region (ex charek awssat jadid plan, tawtin plan, Israeli domination plan, Iraq war disaster). Also, I am not trying to convince you whatsoever, I am only exchanging ideas with you. HA have changed so did its supporters , LF leadership have changed so did Samir geagea, but Lfers on the ground are still the same old Lfers who will not hesitate in repeating what they did 20 years ago, go talk to them and see to yourself, a 2 mn conversation will be long enough to expose their identity.. I am not worried about Samir geagea anymore, Geagea now is different then geagea then,but here is the catch ya sa7be : The ouwet street is an emotional intelligence and street smart when it comes to fighting for leaderships ( ex bashir sent samir to kidnappe tony franjiye bass samir killed the guy ) another example but this time in a bigger picture ( when samir geagea, elie hubayka and karim pakradubni rebelled agaisnt abu nadder ) more (7areb taw7id al bundukiye between hubayka and geagea) and and. .. my point is this bil 3rabeh , khaye ne7na ma 3inna aya si2(trust) bi al cheri3 al ouwete aw al cheri3 al kateebeh, chu bissir iza bukra 7adan 3mal 2in2leb 3la samir w kabu bara mitel ma sar bi abu nedir back in the 80’s?? w yotla3 chi wa7ad fascist mitel sami gmayel aw aya chakhess tene on this blog li badu min allah israel aw gher israel terja3 tfut 3la al balad ?? chi wa7ad mitel elie hbayka massalan ?? sabra w chatilla?? ne7na ma ra7 nitruk al sle7 min dun damenet.. Sami and Nadim are your future my friend ya3ne ya ma7la jido pierre and his facsit views !! I take 100 samir geagea over sami and nadim !!

  Thx for reading and sorry for the grammar.. I wish I have the time to review what I write..

• 17. 13october1990 | July 14th, 2009 at 9:26 am

  Doc,

  Trust me you don’t need to apologize, i did not take anything personally. I respect your right to state your opinion and I’m glad you agree with me on many issues.

  My friend the only way to become strong, is to unit as Lebanese and think Lebanon first and foremost. We should remove the idea of Muslim, Druze or Christian from our heads and focus on being Lebanese.

  Again let’s give all who were elected a chance to show us what they will do, and i hope all the Lebanese who will be able to vote in 4 years, would do a better job.

  In a perfect world we could boycott all Jewish products, but unfortunately we need these products as they play an important factor in our daily life. We just can’t live alone, we have to be friends with everyone.

  I think we paid a high price defending the Palestinian cause, maybe it’s time for the so called Arab nation to take the relay and continue. We need to rebuild Lebanon, starting from scratch. I have no idea when was the last time you visited Lebanon, but trust me nothing is working here. The percentages of immigrants from Lebanon is much more now then it was during the civil war. Mobile reception is bad, I’m paying 40% more now because i have to make the call 3 to 4 times to be able to finish a conversation. Fuel prices are sky rocketing, more electricity cuts and higher generator bills. If you stand on a red traffic sign you get cursed at for respecting the law, even police do not respect the law. These are a few examples, the government has to start implementing harsh punishment for disrespecting the laws.

  The problem ya DOC is the Lebanese mentality and savoir-vivre. Students should be educated on their duty towards the country instead of religion at school. Religion should be taught by parents and parish.

  Sorry jumped off topic but to me this is the only way to solve the problem we have

• 18. Reader27 | July 14th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

  Doc # 16

  You should always write this way.

  Question and I hope you answer :

  How can you change the ouwet street ??

• 19. Anisa | August 7th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

  dont you ouwet or hezbollah get it yet?
  both are the same sh*it bad for lebanon dont think because one has the same enemy the other must be a friend.

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